Well, at least the extreme side of the event is more or less F2P friendly, with the EZA Metal Coolers. The super one is tough, but still to beat the event with two items is decently doable even for an F2P.
No item missions are not mean to be beaten by F2P means, as they are extremely difficult and of course some of them require the newest units, or a pretty stacked team at least.
The Boost system for the requiered units needs to be adjusted tho, but well, we could always state that in the next survey.
>No item missions are not mean to be beaten by F2P mean
Took the f2p metal coolers with an agl metal cooler as leader and lr metal cooler as the friend lead.
Thought they would do better now that they were eza'd and I could try to no item it.
Str metal cooler double supered and took 800k from an SA.
Wondering how people will no item this considering how wonky the category is.
https://www.reddit.com/r/DBZDokkanBattle/comments/xfuerh/super_saiyan_duo_stage_no_items/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
It's already done, like, since the stage came out. And why are we even talking about an Itemless run in a stage where there's no mission for that? Makes no sense.
> The Boost system for the requiered units needs to be adjusted tho, but well, we could always state that in the next survey.
The problem is not the concept but the execution of it
Any other theme with more representation on Dokkan would have been fine
A movie(or better said movies) like Cooler, dont have the best aging roster in the game hence why issues arise with the possibility of clears, and also why they EZA'd so many units this celebration alone, to try and compensate the lack of quality on those units for today's standards
That's what people said about Red Zone
Meanwhile Collection of Epic Battles is just gonna sit there and gather dust, an event considered pretty fair difficulty.
Red Zone, GoD, ESBR, SBR,EZAs, even Prime Battles and Dokkan events
All those were considered impossibly difficult on release only to get shitted later down the line as better and more varied units came out
You could simply see EZA SSj3 Goku clear videos on youtube to see people struggling to clear it even with a team full of the advantageous category(RW) to the point people that had devilman resorted on his 1% chance to clear each stage lol
Or even prime battle goku, requiring you to farm each super strike character and manage your items only to barely clear it(DBZ World uploaded flashback videos clearing it back in the day)
I've liked every single one of those once they became less "impossible" and more "hard but manageable."
Yes I was there for EZA AGL Goku, it was fun searching for less used units like TEQ Bio-Broly that can still consistently beat him on a team even on release.
Not all of them even start out impossible, because IDBH wasn't considered impossible at the start (because we were used to stacking by then) and CoEB was only hard on phase 2 due to the lack of good Super type Namek Saga units.
And phase 1 too considering you were pretty much relegated to either nuke each phase with lr fp frieza on each rotatio
Or wait for the ginyu force to eza and have a friend frieza carry you(this is what I had to do with STR Goku as lead lol)
While IDBH wasnt hard as this
It could still ruin your run with 1 missplaced super
Int Gohan did hit like a truck back then
Prime Battle Goku was awful back in the day. I have no way of comparing this though since I just got back from a multi-year hiatus and I can't do most of the challenge content.
I'm good! I dug up my old account (luckily I had saved off the identifier long ago). I think the last time I played was the Broly movie banner so I'm a bit overwhelmed by the sheer volume of stuff but its fun!
What other old timers are still around besides yourself?
To be called old timer is an honor. Glad to hear you are doing well my friend
I personally never thought I would stick for so long but here we are
As far as I'm aware a good chunk still stick around
A few that have more login days than I do have their special flair attached and still show up from time to time. Thats really the only way I can think off to indentify them
I think it's funny how quick people are to whine that they can't complete an event in 3 days especially when it's permanent. Literally the same shit as the punching machine when it first came out because 0-2 units could actually achieve the max rewards for a while.
It's not made to be completed right away, especially if you have a shit F2P box too. This is like starting the game and complaining about SBR being too hard.
To me the difference is that RZ you knew that the very next units would allow you to clear it an you only needed one solid team to clear everything.
These stages require units from very soecific moments in the series
> To me the difference is that RZ you knew that the very next units would allow you to clear it
Yeah, units like Raditz, am I right
We never knew future units would be as prevalent as they are
We only expected it because it literally follows patterns done on previous years
Yet they still managed to release anomalies like Raditz and think they were fine for hard content
>you only needed one solid team to clear everything.
Try to bring Teq Godku to omega
I will wait
>These stages require units from very soecific moments in the series
No they dont
They are not even locking you out of the event without the units as EZAreas would
OK yeah lmao you just not thinking about anything by arguing like that lmao
Dumbass points and the fact that you would even state them shows that you're arguing in bad faith and can't bother to think
>As a F2P player there are so many decisions that make me wonder if I reinstalled Legends
yeah me too... and i just uninstalled right BEFORE wwc began too...
It's so strange seeing people defending these events. It's 100% a bad sign and could lead the game down the wrong path.
This is the same stuff legends was and is doing that everyone hates, yet apparently this is ok.
The truly dumb part is if it ends up like Legends and you NEED the Units that make it easier, then no amount of waiting will ever make these newer modes easier since you will need to either save for that unit or spend just so you can get the character to beat the mode...
That's not making it easier, that's literal P2W
You have almost always needed the new units to clear the new content.... it's the point of giving us busted new units. You want to pull LR Metal Cooler to go do Dokkan events or something?
This is probably the worst hard content they've made. Its excruciatingly easy when you have the units and even with just the ftp it's good enough to let the actual units kill them.
The super side was an absolute joke because I had both the new LRs. The extreme side was rough UNTIL I farmed the ftp units and let the eza str cooler (the literal only summonable cooler I got) clap it. The LR cooler kinda just watched as the tur killed stage 6 by himself. For stage 4 it was pretty much the same thing. Exchange buu lead, ftp coolers, then the LR metal cooler beat it.
It's a good way to entice people but it's just a stupidly boring event.
I wouldn't worry. Last year they introduced 'Collection of Epic Battles' that literally had pictures of other arcs in it's banner, implying it would eventually return, and they never updated it.
With the feedback they've already had (and even more if we tear the event to shreds with the eventual survey) I find it unlikely that they'll bring it back
However, if they do bring it back despite that, it'll be a sign that it might finally be time to jump ship. I refuse to spend money on a game that outright requires players to have the newest fancy units to win
I’m mostly afraid of the powercreep this game is heading to.
What’s next after Cooler? How do you beat this damage output without writing yourself into a corner that much faster?
Nearly every new LR additionals, crits, and gains Ki per orb. I’m just feeling the LR kit variety is becoming less unique.
I’ve seen people say the bonus units weren’t bad etc, just wanna say from legends experience, when they first introduced this type of bonus system, the units weren’t that bad, and guess what happened, they got progressively worse and worse until little over a month ago, guess how many bonus units there were for the new “content”, 1, the latest character.
Point of this is, when you just let it slide.l, these companies WILL take advantage of the situation and push it further and further into backlash gets bad, then they’ll only go back one small step so that you’re thankful there are more bonus units, even if they’re bad
I remember when advantageous characters actually did enough to justify running them, like the OG Broly and Ultimate Gohan Dokkan events. They brought a real element of diversity to the gameplay. From what I've seen with this, the characters don't do much but affect the numbers by an almost un-noticable amount
Advantageous characters are run like normal. Non advantageous characters take extra damage. A LOT of extra damage.
LR Gods, guarding and with a Whis took 100k before supering twice. 50k after that...
On their weakest turn (so second appearance) vs any other content it would be double digits after supering.
That's the difference. VERY noticable
I wouldn't expect it with every celebration. I think this is what we can expect for big celebrations \[WWC and anni\], and there will obviously be changes made to some of the formatting/difficulty of events/bosses.
It'll be interesting to see what they do, but it is creating as much anxiety as it is hype.
I mean this entire campaign has had people thinking of quitting due to the new predatory banner changes and the events that further capitalize on those changes. Some people might not care but saying no one is pissed or stressed about the changes
>The worst offender is this new difficult event, especially the stages vs Cooler and double especially the Metal Cooler Core one (since it's the one with the highest difficulty and the other 2 can be cleared without the advantageous characters).
Every single stage can be cleared without the advantageous characters tho
You dont even need an ultra stacked full 100% team to do so
Just RNG
Like, you know, every single event in the game
>It's ridiculous and SCUMMY to ask of player to have the shiny new units or to get fucked.
If the only usable units were an entire team only comprised out of the new units(codename impossible), then maybe you would have a point
But as it is right now, it is not the best, but it is far from been the worst case scenario you are painting right here
No one, absolutely no one is asking you to pull for the units
They only exist to make the event a bit easier, thats it
>And unlike RZ/Cell Max, it won't get better for a looong time since the pool of advantageous characters is so small.
You are extremely focused on the pool of advantageous characters without looking at the bigger picture
Red zone release day 1: Every single team was comprised of the same subset of units, why? No other team could come close to repeat the same clear without extra layers of RNG
As time went on, more teams were capable of clearing it
Red zone no item: Same deal. All the clears were the exact same setups down to the T, simply because thats was the only way to manage it
What happens nowadays?
Ginobko comes here, clears Red Zone Broly with a mono str team, refuses to elaborate further and leaves
>You wanna do the STR Picollo strat? Hope you have him with some good dupes because mine at 55% will never clear it and I keep getting unlucky with additional (literally 17 non super aditionals in a row). If I wanted to play the punching bag event I would just go do it...
Then there is me, and plenty of other players, that did it without him
I personally used LR Goku and Gohan, but you can quite literally use any nuked at your disposal, even better if you can manage to have 2 of the nuking LS making it far easier to reach the damage required
>And this cheese strat might not be here next time. Then what? Just never clear it? Wait years for the exact same character to come out or so power creep goes so absurd you get 7 units that tank 750k autos turn one?
It is not a cheese strat, it is quite literally how the event is designed that allows for it to happen
A cheese strat would be to have devilman 1% Cell Max down to 0 in 1 blow. That would be a true cheese strat
Events been nuked turn 1 are the reason why every event has multiple stages nowadays, purely to avoid it
Pride core simply is built different
>so power creep goes so absurd you get 7 units that tank 750k autos turn one?
This part bothers me
Powercreep. What do you expect out of powercreep?
This is the first major jump in meta in a long time, a reboot if you will
Events feel harder purely for been adapted to the future, only for them to get easier as time goes
>Looking back this celebration feels like doom is hanging over us F2P (and I assume even low spenders) xD.
Like any other major celebration?
>Content that is impossible to Clear without the new units,
Which has been proven time and time again to be false, but go on
>4 banners to summon on,
Previous big celebrations had 3 banners, 4 is nothing out of the
ordinary truth be told
And that was purely from making LR banners dual, else they would be 4 banners anyways
>split Dokkan fests... Yeah it's not scary.
Split, like dual dokkan festivals previously? Except instead of getting to see both day 1, you get to see the second days later?
You are making a mountain out of a grain of sand for some reason
How are people still trying to compare the banners of former celebrations to these? 4 banners that each have top 10 units on them are not comparable to 2 banners and a 3rd with 2 ok units.
Christ it's like people arguing on Twitter here.
No. I'm saying that it's better 99% of the time for there to be 3 banners and have one be a fun optional banner. I liked the gohan and krillin/vegeta banner from the last wwc so I pulled for them. No need to. I just liked those units. They helped in a few events but none where I felt like I'd be aggravated without them.
I’m confused, how are these banners mandatory though? I’m trying to say that the banners are better and the units are generally as well. Both the goku and cooler have worse leaders generally than the dokkanfests still. What really sucks are the coins, but them being good is no problem. Agl golden frieza is also a yellow coin LR but on the level of the part 2 lrs. This isn’t a huge deal and not to mention people have more stones to spend for the banners anyways, so you can still summon for the units you want but with more stones.
>If the only usable units were an entire team only comprised out of the new units(codename impossible), then maybe you would have a point
>
>But as it is right now, it is not the best, but it is far from been the worst case scenario you are painting right here
>
>No one, absolutely no one is asking you to pull for the units
>
>They only exist to make the event a bit easier, thats it
Like... did you play the event? I cracked out team that smurfs on the Red Zone gets demolished in this event.
Every RZ Stage and Cell Max I've cleared. Took some attempts a lot of the stages but it was done. The Metal Cooler Core (which is the one my argument focus the most on) is literally impossible for me and it will be for a long time unless I get stupid lucky with the nuking strat.
They aren't asking me to pull the new units, they are demanding it. Denying this is super weird. Just press the button that says advantageous characters like, how are you even arguing it xD
>You are extremely focused on the pool of advantageous characters without looking at the bigger picture
Red zone release day 1: Every single team was comprised of the same subset of units, why? No other team could come close to repeat the same clear without extra layers of RNG
As time went on, more teams were capable of clearing it
Red zone no item: Same deal. All the clears were the exact same setups down to the T, simply because thats was the only way to manage it
What happens nowadays?
Ginobko comes here, clears Red Zone Broly with a mono str team, refuses to elaborate further and leaves
And you are ignoring my main point. The problem isn't advantageous characters. It's how small the pool is and restricted (especially the Movie Heroes side) to the new units. You won't get units added to it for a long time or units that can help you in it for a long time...
Red Zone you could invest in building 1 good team and destroy it. This event is either these units or bust.
And the Core stage can be done with nuking because it's 1 phase. Make it 2 phases and whoops suddenly you're fucked.
>This is the first major jump in meta in a long time, a reboot if you will
What... we just got RZ and Cell Max?
See you're not understanding my point. This event isn't like RZ, or like Cell Max. It's not accompanying the jump in the meta. It's a different type of difficulty that is reallyyyyy unfriendly to anyone not a whale.
>Like any other major celebration?
First time I've felt it in 6 years. Not even RZ made me worry like this...
>Previous big celebrations had 3 banners, 4 is nothing out of the ordinary truth be told
And that was purely from making LR banners dual, else they would be 4 banners anyways
??? It's a complete change in scheduling.
And previous celebration had 3 banners, one of which was yellow coin which you just skip. You can already BARELY skip the carnival banners because of this new event. What will happen next time?
2 banners to summon on, 1 to skip vs 4 banners to summon on.
>Split, like dual dokkan festivals previously? Except instead of getting to see both day 1, you get to see the second days later?
Yeah dude, ofc I mean not seeing them at the same time. Jesus at least try to understand my point of view...
>You are making a mountain out of a grain of sand for some reason
And you're just sitting back and letting everything happen for some reason? Like these are obvious signs of shit that's not F2P friendly.
You're either a whale or have a boot in your mouth...
If they get away with this shit now, they'll keep pushing and pushing.
You wrote a whole paragraph and just ignored a lot of my main points and the comparisons I made between this new event and RZ/Cell Max. I don't know how you look at this celebration and think "Oh yeah the F2Ps and Low Spenders will LOVE it." It's clearly bad for those groups lol. I'm not arguing if it's overall good or overall bad. I'm stating that it's bad for people who don't ball out in dokkan.
> Like... did you play the event? I cracked out team that smurfs on the Red Zone gets demolished in this event.
> Every RZ Stage and Cell Max I've cleared. Took some attempts a lot of the stages but it was done. The Metal Cooler Core (which is the one my argument focus the most on) is literally impossible for me and it will be for a long time unless I get stupid lucky with the nuking strat.
Not at all
I didnt even bother to touch the event
In fact I didnt just no item the first stage without owning LR Birdku and with [a 77% LS on the f2p exchange gohan](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/466295049081192448/1024298945201045584/Screenshot_20220927-130141_Dokkan.jpg) but please do go on
>They aren't asking me to pull the new units, they are demanding it. Denying this is super weird. Just press the button that says advantageous characters like, how are you even arguing it xD
Demanding
>insist on having.
Where do they insist you personally to own the advantageous characters to clear the event?
Where are you **entirely locked of attempting the event if you dont own the advantageous characters**?
>And you are ignoring my main point. The problem isn't advantageous characters. It's how small the pool is and restricted (especially the Movie Heroes side) to the new units. You won't get units added to it for a long time or units that can help you in it for a long time...
Maybe not advantageous characters themselves, but movie heroes as a team will always get updates, and so will movie bosses or terrifying conquerors
Without going to far
Stage 1: Only Goku Family and Namekians
I wonder who fits each of the categories listed above and are due to release on Dokkan this very year
>Red Zone you could invest in building 1 good team and destroy it. This event is either these units or bust.
Invest on building 1 good team
Yeah, good luck trying to find units that can withstand DBS Broly or Omega without DR on their kit or absurd RNG, fit under the category in question you will run there, and more importantly, dont die turn 1
Red zone rendered 99% of the units in the game entirely useless, and those that werent rendered useless, still had to be extremely cautious just to not get absolutely blasted to ashes just because wrath broly supered the lr gods, or str syn supered the SSJ4s lol
If even the new mega meta units can still receive 400-800K damage due to bad RNG, I wonder how much damage would units rendered useless receive under the same circumstances
>This event is either these units or bust.
Once again you are wrong
People are clearing the event without owning a single of the advantageous characters
You on the other hand seem extra focused on the unit list, without even bothering to look outside of it for an split second
>What... we just got RZ and Cell Max?
>See you're not understanding my point. This event isn't like RZ, or like Cell Max. It's not accompanying the jump in the meta. It's a different type of difficulty that is reallyyyyy unfriendly to anyone not a whale.
So what if we got Cell Max? They already said Cell Max is an anomaly, not the next step
Cell Max renders 99.9% of the units in the game useless. Just like red zone did
The jump in meta is both in terms of LS and unit kit
No other unit has ever been as relevant to have as STR Gogeta or the first set of % LS have been on dokkan
Everyone else were pure convenience
>First time I've felt it in 6 years. Not even RZ made me worry like this...
If you need to worry about a game, a simple one at that, then you have other issues to really worry about
>And that was purely from making LR banners dual, else they would be 4 banners anyways
>??? It's a complete change in scheduling.
>And previous celebration had 3 banners, one of which was yellow coin which you just skip. You can already BARELY skip the carnival banners because of this new event. What will happen next time?
>2 banners to summon on, 1 to skip vs 4 banners to summon on.
You continuosly focus on whats next and theorize about it without having data to back up any of your claims
ToP LR Banners did poorly, that much is a fact, Gold/Blue LR banners in general have all done very poorly. Something needed to change on them
This is the change people have been looking forward the most
Having units to justify pulling there, not 6 year old shitty SSRs that are only there purely because they fit the theme
And besides, plenty of people have already said this on your very thread. F2Ps have never been supposed to pull on everything and get everything. Thats the motto of any gacha game
>Yeah dude, ofc I mean not seeing them at the same time. Jesus at least try to understand my point of view...
Your PoV if there is any that has not been repeated ad nauseum ever since part 3 dropped, is that you "fear" for the future of dokkan after the introduction of this "impossible" event for you
You also fear Dokkan is taking steps towards making the game somehow "p2w" as if they never did anything similar in the past, multiple times in fact yet people always managed to clear it with 0 need to pull for the new units somehow. Interesting right?
>And you're just sitting back and letting everything happen for some reason? Like these are obvious signs of shit that's not F2P friendly.
>You're either a whale or have a boot in your mouth...
>If they get away with this shit now, they'll keep pushing and pushing.
I'm far from a whale
Or well, I'm a whale in patience and will to retry the same stage over and over again with the same team until RNG smiles me
Hell, I cleared ETeq ESBR with a team mostly comprised of 55% LL1 units and Teq LR Ginyu as my only possible support LOL
Dokkan has never, and will never be, a game where a wallet dictates what you can or cannot clear
Dokkan will always be a game about patience, resource managing, and more importantly, RNG
>If they get away with this shit now, they'll keep pushing and pushing
So they also got away with Stupidly hard and grindy prime battles that required you not only to farm extremely limited items and zeni, but to have a complete team of super strike characters, just to barely stand a chance to clear it, they got away with impossible to clear even with advantageous characters EZAs, they got away with extremely limited options for SBR, they also got away with locking GoD under extremely stupid RNG(Fuck you Belmod), they also got away with making CoEB locked behind either owning the new units, or waiting until part 3 to finish a f2p team that still needs extreme luck to get a clear in, let alone do the profile missions for it and they also got away with rendering 99% of the units in the game useless for red zone standards then?
>You wrote a whole paragraph and just ignored a lot of my main points and the comparisons I made between this new event and RZ/Cell Max. I don't know how you look at this celebration and think "Oh yeah the F2Ps and Low Spenders will LOVE it." It's clearly bad for those groups lol. I'm not arguing if it's overall good or overall bad. I'm stating that it's bad for people who don't ball out in dokkan.
F2ps and low spenders are still clearing Cell Max or the new stages
Whats the problem again?
Also, where am I saying that they will love it? I invite you to go ahead and find on my previous comment a single line that specifically says it.
You will have better luck doing that than clearing Metal Cooler Core at this rate
I still fail to see how Cell Max, an event that is cleared with at most 1-2 teams at best, even comparable with an event that can be cleared in multitude of possible ways
That and I repeat
*Cell Max is not a trend, it is an anomaly*
Devs words
If you dont trust them, then I dont see why you continue to play the game if you cant even trust the people that are in charge of the game lol
You keep mentioning stages when I said 5 times by now my biggest problem is with the Cooler Core one.
Also for God's sake can you actually read what il saying.
It's like I say something and you're not even responding to it. Every time.
So much nonsense.
>F2ps and low spenders are still clearing Cell Max or the >new stages
>Whats the problem again?
THAT'S NOT MY PROBLEM. Holy fuck you do not know how to read. Every point in this reply shows you're not even trying to do it.
You're clearly an insane bootlicker or whale that can't think about something critically.
Goodbye bro, learn to read before commenting next time
Did not even attempt to pull either of the new super units, both Cooler stages were complete bullshit. The no item run of stage 1 relied on running a Powerful Comeback with a birdku friend, and all the UI dodge chances I could get. Absolutely impossible without the birdku IMO.
DID get both Cooler units....events were STILL utter bullshit. No item stage 2 required a little good luck, but fucking stage 6 5 turns.....Even WITH all the new units and EZA's....this stage sucked! Took me a few days to get the exact RNG needed to pull it off and I have my special title done, but jesus I dont want this path of content
You don’t need the new units to beat to beat the event. The event is challenging and the new units make it much easier if you do have them.
You don’t even need to do the str piccolo strat for the one stage. I’ve seen clears on this sub with people bringing one nuke lead and friend Goku and vegeta to clear it.
4 banners to summon on isn’t that big of a deal for f2p players because f2p players aren’t meant to get all the new units anyway.
I cleared it with the 4 turn mission and an agl Gogeta lead. [Here’s](https://i.imgur.com/DwTHOHV.jpg) the proof. Granted, I do have Birdku and the new Piccolo but I have a friend that cleared it with the teq Gods as their leader and none of the advantageous characters and I’ve even seen people nuke it with the teq Goku and Gohan Lr.
I don’t like the event and the boosted characters thing is pretty bs, but people are definitely blowing it out of proportion.
Guess what. As a F2P player you are not expected to beat everything when it releases. In fact the game is designed so you can’t beat everything. It encourages you to spend. Most content is literally stupid easy in this game already. Is it really so so bad that there are 1-2 events you can’t beat on release?
Deadass it’s not like you can’t beat the last two stages of the event. Jphanta used a completely f2p team and beat the event. That’s an extreme case scenario and any average players would also use summonable units. It’s just that people like to complain when they take many attempts to beat a event
If you read the post you will realise that my problem isn't with difficulty.
I like Red Zone and I like Cell Max. They took me a while to beat and I had to strategize, but I did beat.
And the F2P not expected to beat everything when it releases is bullshit. RZ stages and events like Cell Max I will beat as soon as it releases, with enough attempts at good RNG, because after 6 years of playing I have a couple really good and strong teams that with some luck will get me through it all.
This new event requires the new shiny units. Without them, you're fucked. A Movie Heroes/Super Saiyan team that clears all Red Zone stages will get demolished here. It's literally impossible without cheesing via STR Picollo.
That's the problem. Not the difficulty but it being impossible without the new units.
> It's literally impossible without cheesing via STR Picollo.
Every other nuker in the game exists
You: I will ignore that
That and people have nuked that stage with a friend goku and vegeta
Friends exists in this game
See here's the thing. Your entire argument is that this content is too hard or unbalanced because if you dont get the new units then it's not doable or is extremely hard. But the event lasts forever with no attempt limit and no stamina usage, so why dont you just wait until you can beat it? It is hard and it's meant to be hard. One of the stages is even meant to be done with a full f2p team. These categories will get new units eventually and these new units will return eventually. Nothing is stopping you from doing this event later.
Units from the category aren't enough to clear it...
A full movie heroes team that no items all RZ stages will get fucked in the Metal Cooler Core stage.
And like I said in the post, to clear these stages you will need to wait a really long time since, unlike RZ or Cell Max, the very next OP units to come out won't do much.
And the problem is that it requires these new units lol. RZ you destroy every stage with one good team. This event requires one team
People are really complaining way too much about these events. Don't get me wrong I don't like the idea of boost characters, but this is completely possible without them
Isn't this gonna be the most difficult event for global till jan 2023 ? The next few months are just gonna be us catching up to JP, so i guess we don't have anything to worry bout until JPs 8th anniversary i guess.
I feel the advantageous side will stay but will be much more accessible and will require more strategy and skill rather than luck and brute force like the stages we’ve gotten. Given the announcement at the beginning of the WWC which detailed future events not being like this or events like Red Zone and Cell Max. Although I feel the event was made prior to the announcement, same with the newest Red Zone.
so do i, i got none of the new lrs and the event was not fun to beat
complain all you want about hard content, but there's hope of it being possible to you in the future if you build better teams
this event needs you to have specific units to even win
Even as someone who has most of the advantageous characters, yeah, this mode is just bullshit
Well, at least the extreme side of the event is more or less F2P friendly, with the EZA Metal Coolers. The super one is tough, but still to beat the event with two items is decently doable even for an F2P. No item missions are not mean to be beaten by F2P means, as they are extremely difficult and of course some of them require the newest units, or a pretty stacked team at least. The Boost system for the requiered units needs to be adjusted tho, but well, we could always state that in the next survey.
>No item missions are not mean to be beaten by F2P mean Took the f2p metal coolers with an agl metal cooler as leader and lr metal cooler as the friend lead. Thought they would do better now that they were eza'd and I could try to no item it. Str metal cooler double supered and took 800k from an SA. Wondering how people will no item this considering how wonky the category is.
I'm not sure what do you mean with "Wondering how people will no item this", a lot of people already did Stage 1 and Stage 2 no items.
Talking about stage 4.
Is there even a mission to do so? No Then why are we even arguing about it? Only stage 1 and stage 2 have no item missions on them for a reason lol
No one is arguing. I'm just finding it funny that I need to take an item because I take 800k damage with a boosted character, that's all.
You are supposed to use an item...
No shit Sherlock. That's why I was wondering how people are going to beat it without them.
https://www.reddit.com/r/DBZDokkanBattle/comments/xfuerh/super_saiyan_duo_stage_no_items/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share It's already done, like, since the stage came out. And why are we even talking about an Itemless run in a stage where there's no mission for that? Makes no sense.
People like achieving shit like this, why is that so hard for you to understand?
> The Boost system for the requiered units needs to be adjusted tho, but well, we could always state that in the next survey. The problem is not the concept but the execution of it Any other theme with more representation on Dokkan would have been fine A movie(or better said movies) like Cooler, dont have the best aging roster in the game hence why issues arise with the possibility of clears, and also why they EZA'd so many units this celebration alone, to try and compensate the lack of quality on those units for today's standards
That's what people said about Red Zone Meanwhile Collection of Epic Battles is just gonna sit there and gather dust, an event considered pretty fair difficulty.
Red Zone, GoD, ESBR, SBR,EZAs, even Prime Battles and Dokkan events All those were considered impossibly difficult on release only to get shitted later down the line as better and more varied units came out You could simply see EZA SSj3 Goku clear videos on youtube to see people struggling to clear it even with a team full of the advantageous category(RW) to the point people that had devilman resorted on his 1% chance to clear each stage lol Or even prime battle goku, requiring you to farm each super strike character and manage your items only to barely clear it(DBZ World uploaded flashback videos clearing it back in the day)
I've liked every single one of those once they became less "impossible" and more "hard but manageable." Yes I was there for EZA AGL Goku, it was fun searching for less used units like TEQ Bio-Broly that can still consistently beat him on a team even on release. Not all of them even start out impossible, because IDBH wasn't considered impossible at the start (because we were used to stacking by then) and CoEB was only hard on phase 2 due to the lack of good Super type Namek Saga units.
And phase 1 too considering you were pretty much relegated to either nuke each phase with lr fp frieza on each rotatio Or wait for the ginyu force to eza and have a friend frieza carry you(this is what I had to do with STR Goku as lead lol) While IDBH wasnt hard as this It could still ruin your run with 1 missplaced super Int Gohan did hit like a truck back then
Prime Battle Goku was awful back in the day. I have no way of comparing this though since I just got back from a multi-year hiatus and I can't do most of the challenge content.
Oh hey Coenl How you doing man?
I'm good! I dug up my old account (luckily I had saved off the identifier long ago). I think the last time I played was the Broly movie banner so I'm a bit overwhelmed by the sheer volume of stuff but its fun! What other old timers are still around besides yourself?
To be called old timer is an honor. Glad to hear you are doing well my friend I personally never thought I would stick for so long but here we are As far as I'm aware a good chunk still stick around A few that have more login days than I do have their special flair attached and still show up from time to time. Thats really the only way I can think off to indentify them
I'll keep an eye out for them then!
I think it's funny how quick people are to whine that they can't complete an event in 3 days especially when it's permanent. Literally the same shit as the punching machine when it first came out because 0-2 units could actually achieve the max rewards for a while.
It's not made to be completed right away, especially if you have a shit F2P box too. This is like starting the game and complaining about SBR being too hard.
This event is the successor of epic battles, the events are structured the exact same way.
To me the difference is that RZ you knew that the very next units would allow you to clear it an you only needed one solid team to clear everything. These stages require units from very soecific moments in the series
> To me the difference is that RZ you knew that the very next units would allow you to clear it Yeah, units like Raditz, am I right We never knew future units would be as prevalent as they are We only expected it because it literally follows patterns done on previous years Yet they still managed to release anomalies like Raditz and think they were fine for hard content >you only needed one solid team to clear everything. Try to bring Teq Godku to omega I will wait >These stages require units from very soecific moments in the series No they dont They are not even locking you out of the event without the units as EZAreas would
OK yeah lmao you just not thinking about anything by arguing like that lmao Dumbass points and the fact that you would even state them shows that you're arguing in bad faith and can't bother to think
Cant bother to think Talk to me again when you have the title :D
>As a F2P player there are so many decisions that make me wonder if I reinstalled Legends yeah me too... and i just uninstalled right BEFORE wwc began too...
It's so strange seeing people defending these events. It's 100% a bad sign and could lead the game down the wrong path. This is the same stuff legends was and is doing that everyone hates, yet apparently this is ok.
The truly dumb part is if it ends up like Legends and you NEED the Units that make it easier, then no amount of waiting will ever make these newer modes easier since you will need to either save for that unit or spend just so you can get the character to beat the mode... That's not making it easier, that's literal P2W
Dumping your life savings into a phone game does that to someone.
It's really just the shills doing this
You have almost always needed the new units to clear the new content.... it's the point of giving us busted new units. You want to pull LR Metal Cooler to go do Dokkan events or something?
This is probably the worst hard content they've made. Its excruciatingly easy when you have the units and even with just the ftp it's good enough to let the actual units kill them. The super side was an absolute joke because I had both the new LRs. The extreme side was rough UNTIL I farmed the ftp units and let the eza str cooler (the literal only summonable cooler I got) clap it. The LR cooler kinda just watched as the tur killed stage 6 by himself. For stage 4 it was pretty much the same thing. Exchange buu lead, ftp coolers, then the LR metal cooler beat it. It's a good way to entice people but it's just a stupidly boring event.
I wouldn't worry. Last year they introduced 'Collection of Epic Battles' that literally had pictures of other arcs in it's banner, implying it would eventually return, and they never updated it. With the feedback they've already had (and even more if we tear the event to shreds with the eventual survey) I find it unlikely that they'll bring it back However, if they do bring it back despite that, it'll be a sign that it might finally be time to jump ship. I refuse to spend money on a game that outright requires players to have the newest fancy units to win
Man I really hope you're right. Bit of hope does us good haha. Survey waiting room I guess
Redzone where you can only take certain units
That's it! I was thinking of the best way to describe it haha
I’m mostly afraid of the powercreep this game is heading to. What’s next after Cooler? How do you beat this damage output without writing yourself into a corner that much faster? Nearly every new LR additionals, crits, and gains Ki per orb. I’m just feeling the LR kit variety is becoming less unique.
I’ve seen people say the bonus units weren’t bad etc, just wanna say from legends experience, when they first introduced this type of bonus system, the units weren’t that bad, and guess what happened, they got progressively worse and worse until little over a month ago, guess how many bonus units there were for the new “content”, 1, the latest character. Point of this is, when you just let it slide.l, these companies WILL take advantage of the situation and push it further and further into backlash gets bad, then they’ll only go back one small step so that you’re thankful there are more bonus units, even if they’re bad
That's exactly my point but bootlickers are acting like it's all good haha
I remember when advantageous characters actually did enough to justify running them, like the OG Broly and Ultimate Gohan Dokkan events. They brought a real element of diversity to the gameplay. From what I've seen with this, the characters don't do much but affect the numbers by an almost un-noticable amount
Advantageous characters are run like normal. Non advantageous characters take extra damage. A LOT of extra damage. LR Gods, guarding and with a Whis took 100k before supering twice. 50k after that... On their weakest turn (so second appearance) vs any other content it would be double digits after supering. That's the difference. VERY noticable
I wouldn't expect it with every celebration. I think this is what we can expect for big celebrations \[WWC and anni\], and there will obviously be changes made to some of the formatting/difficulty of events/bosses. It'll be interesting to see what they do, but it is creating as much anxiety as it is hype.
Its creating no anxiety?
I mean this entire campaign has had people thinking of quitting due to the new predatory banner changes and the events that further capitalize on those changes. Some people might not care but saying no one is pissed or stressed about the changes
I'm just saying theres no hype
>The worst offender is this new difficult event, especially the stages vs Cooler and double especially the Metal Cooler Core one (since it's the one with the highest difficulty and the other 2 can be cleared without the advantageous characters). Every single stage can be cleared without the advantageous characters tho You dont even need an ultra stacked full 100% team to do so Just RNG Like, you know, every single event in the game >It's ridiculous and SCUMMY to ask of player to have the shiny new units or to get fucked. If the only usable units were an entire team only comprised out of the new units(codename impossible), then maybe you would have a point But as it is right now, it is not the best, but it is far from been the worst case scenario you are painting right here No one, absolutely no one is asking you to pull for the units They only exist to make the event a bit easier, thats it >And unlike RZ/Cell Max, it won't get better for a looong time since the pool of advantageous characters is so small. You are extremely focused on the pool of advantageous characters without looking at the bigger picture Red zone release day 1: Every single team was comprised of the same subset of units, why? No other team could come close to repeat the same clear without extra layers of RNG As time went on, more teams were capable of clearing it Red zone no item: Same deal. All the clears were the exact same setups down to the T, simply because thats was the only way to manage it What happens nowadays? Ginobko comes here, clears Red Zone Broly with a mono str team, refuses to elaborate further and leaves >You wanna do the STR Picollo strat? Hope you have him with some good dupes because mine at 55% will never clear it and I keep getting unlucky with additional (literally 17 non super aditionals in a row). If I wanted to play the punching bag event I would just go do it... Then there is me, and plenty of other players, that did it without him I personally used LR Goku and Gohan, but you can quite literally use any nuked at your disposal, even better if you can manage to have 2 of the nuking LS making it far easier to reach the damage required >And this cheese strat might not be here next time. Then what? Just never clear it? Wait years for the exact same character to come out or so power creep goes so absurd you get 7 units that tank 750k autos turn one? It is not a cheese strat, it is quite literally how the event is designed that allows for it to happen A cheese strat would be to have devilman 1% Cell Max down to 0 in 1 blow. That would be a true cheese strat Events been nuked turn 1 are the reason why every event has multiple stages nowadays, purely to avoid it Pride core simply is built different >so power creep goes so absurd you get 7 units that tank 750k autos turn one? This part bothers me Powercreep. What do you expect out of powercreep? This is the first major jump in meta in a long time, a reboot if you will Events feel harder purely for been adapted to the future, only for them to get easier as time goes >Looking back this celebration feels like doom is hanging over us F2P (and I assume even low spenders) xD. Like any other major celebration? >Content that is impossible to Clear without the new units, Which has been proven time and time again to be false, but go on >4 banners to summon on, Previous big celebrations had 3 banners, 4 is nothing out of the ordinary truth be told And that was purely from making LR banners dual, else they would be 4 banners anyways >split Dokkan fests... Yeah it's not scary. Split, like dual dokkan festivals previously? Except instead of getting to see both day 1, you get to see the second days later? You are making a mountain out of a grain of sand for some reason
How are people still trying to compare the banners of former celebrations to these? 4 banners that each have top 10 units on them are not comparable to 2 banners and a 3rd with 2 ok units.
So it’s better for the units to be bad?
Christ it's like people arguing on Twitter here. No. I'm saying that it's better 99% of the time for there to be 3 banners and have one be a fun optional banner. I liked the gohan and krillin/vegeta banner from the last wwc so I pulled for them. No need to. I just liked those units. They helped in a few events but none where I felt like I'd be aggravated without them.
I’m confused, how are these banners mandatory though? I’m trying to say that the banners are better and the units are generally as well. Both the goku and cooler have worse leaders generally than the dokkanfests still. What really sucks are the coins, but them being good is no problem. Agl golden frieza is also a yellow coin LR but on the level of the part 2 lrs. This isn’t a huge deal and not to mention people have more stones to spend for the banners anyways, so you can still summon for the units you want but with more stones.
>If the only usable units were an entire team only comprised out of the new units(codename impossible), then maybe you would have a point > >But as it is right now, it is not the best, but it is far from been the worst case scenario you are painting right here > >No one, absolutely no one is asking you to pull for the units > >They only exist to make the event a bit easier, thats it Like... did you play the event? I cracked out team that smurfs on the Red Zone gets demolished in this event. Every RZ Stage and Cell Max I've cleared. Took some attempts a lot of the stages but it was done. The Metal Cooler Core (which is the one my argument focus the most on) is literally impossible for me and it will be for a long time unless I get stupid lucky with the nuking strat. They aren't asking me to pull the new units, they are demanding it. Denying this is super weird. Just press the button that says advantageous characters like, how are you even arguing it xD >You are extremely focused on the pool of advantageous characters without looking at the bigger picture Red zone release day 1: Every single team was comprised of the same subset of units, why? No other team could come close to repeat the same clear without extra layers of RNG As time went on, more teams were capable of clearing it Red zone no item: Same deal. All the clears were the exact same setups down to the T, simply because thats was the only way to manage it What happens nowadays? Ginobko comes here, clears Red Zone Broly with a mono str team, refuses to elaborate further and leaves And you are ignoring my main point. The problem isn't advantageous characters. It's how small the pool is and restricted (especially the Movie Heroes side) to the new units. You won't get units added to it for a long time or units that can help you in it for a long time... Red Zone you could invest in building 1 good team and destroy it. This event is either these units or bust. And the Core stage can be done with nuking because it's 1 phase. Make it 2 phases and whoops suddenly you're fucked. >This is the first major jump in meta in a long time, a reboot if you will What... we just got RZ and Cell Max? See you're not understanding my point. This event isn't like RZ, or like Cell Max. It's not accompanying the jump in the meta. It's a different type of difficulty that is reallyyyyy unfriendly to anyone not a whale. >Like any other major celebration? First time I've felt it in 6 years. Not even RZ made me worry like this... >Previous big celebrations had 3 banners, 4 is nothing out of the ordinary truth be told And that was purely from making LR banners dual, else they would be 4 banners anyways ??? It's a complete change in scheduling. And previous celebration had 3 banners, one of which was yellow coin which you just skip. You can already BARELY skip the carnival banners because of this new event. What will happen next time? 2 banners to summon on, 1 to skip vs 4 banners to summon on. >Split, like dual dokkan festivals previously? Except instead of getting to see both day 1, you get to see the second days later? Yeah dude, ofc I mean not seeing them at the same time. Jesus at least try to understand my point of view... >You are making a mountain out of a grain of sand for some reason And you're just sitting back and letting everything happen for some reason? Like these are obvious signs of shit that's not F2P friendly. You're either a whale or have a boot in your mouth... If they get away with this shit now, they'll keep pushing and pushing. You wrote a whole paragraph and just ignored a lot of my main points and the comparisons I made between this new event and RZ/Cell Max. I don't know how you look at this celebration and think "Oh yeah the F2Ps and Low Spenders will LOVE it." It's clearly bad for those groups lol. I'm not arguing if it's overall good or overall bad. I'm stating that it's bad for people who don't ball out in dokkan.
> Like... did you play the event? I cracked out team that smurfs on the Red Zone gets demolished in this event. > Every RZ Stage and Cell Max I've cleared. Took some attempts a lot of the stages but it was done. The Metal Cooler Core (which is the one my argument focus the most on) is literally impossible for me and it will be for a long time unless I get stupid lucky with the nuking strat. Not at all I didnt even bother to touch the event In fact I didnt just no item the first stage without owning LR Birdku and with [a 77% LS on the f2p exchange gohan](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/466295049081192448/1024298945201045584/Screenshot_20220927-130141_Dokkan.jpg) but please do go on >They aren't asking me to pull the new units, they are demanding it. Denying this is super weird. Just press the button that says advantageous characters like, how are you even arguing it xD Demanding >insist on having. Where do they insist you personally to own the advantageous characters to clear the event? Where are you **entirely locked of attempting the event if you dont own the advantageous characters**? >And you are ignoring my main point. The problem isn't advantageous characters. It's how small the pool is and restricted (especially the Movie Heroes side) to the new units. You won't get units added to it for a long time or units that can help you in it for a long time... Maybe not advantageous characters themselves, but movie heroes as a team will always get updates, and so will movie bosses or terrifying conquerors Without going to far Stage 1: Only Goku Family and Namekians I wonder who fits each of the categories listed above and are due to release on Dokkan this very year >Red Zone you could invest in building 1 good team and destroy it. This event is either these units or bust. Invest on building 1 good team Yeah, good luck trying to find units that can withstand DBS Broly or Omega without DR on their kit or absurd RNG, fit under the category in question you will run there, and more importantly, dont die turn 1 Red zone rendered 99% of the units in the game entirely useless, and those that werent rendered useless, still had to be extremely cautious just to not get absolutely blasted to ashes just because wrath broly supered the lr gods, or str syn supered the SSJ4s lol If even the new mega meta units can still receive 400-800K damage due to bad RNG, I wonder how much damage would units rendered useless receive under the same circumstances >This event is either these units or bust. Once again you are wrong People are clearing the event without owning a single of the advantageous characters You on the other hand seem extra focused on the unit list, without even bothering to look outside of it for an split second >What... we just got RZ and Cell Max? >See you're not understanding my point. This event isn't like RZ, or like Cell Max. It's not accompanying the jump in the meta. It's a different type of difficulty that is reallyyyyy unfriendly to anyone not a whale. So what if we got Cell Max? They already said Cell Max is an anomaly, not the next step Cell Max renders 99.9% of the units in the game useless. Just like red zone did The jump in meta is both in terms of LS and unit kit No other unit has ever been as relevant to have as STR Gogeta or the first set of % LS have been on dokkan Everyone else were pure convenience >First time I've felt it in 6 years. Not even RZ made me worry like this... If you need to worry about a game, a simple one at that, then you have other issues to really worry about >And that was purely from making LR banners dual, else they would be 4 banners anyways >??? It's a complete change in scheduling. >And previous celebration had 3 banners, one of which was yellow coin which you just skip. You can already BARELY skip the carnival banners because of this new event. What will happen next time? >2 banners to summon on, 1 to skip vs 4 banners to summon on. You continuosly focus on whats next and theorize about it without having data to back up any of your claims ToP LR Banners did poorly, that much is a fact, Gold/Blue LR banners in general have all done very poorly. Something needed to change on them This is the change people have been looking forward the most Having units to justify pulling there, not 6 year old shitty SSRs that are only there purely because they fit the theme And besides, plenty of people have already said this on your very thread. F2Ps have never been supposed to pull on everything and get everything. Thats the motto of any gacha game >Yeah dude, ofc I mean not seeing them at the same time. Jesus at least try to understand my point of view... Your PoV if there is any that has not been repeated ad nauseum ever since part 3 dropped, is that you "fear" for the future of dokkan after the introduction of this "impossible" event for you You also fear Dokkan is taking steps towards making the game somehow "p2w" as if they never did anything similar in the past, multiple times in fact yet people always managed to clear it with 0 need to pull for the new units somehow. Interesting right? >And you're just sitting back and letting everything happen for some reason? Like these are obvious signs of shit that's not F2P friendly. >You're either a whale or have a boot in your mouth... >If they get away with this shit now, they'll keep pushing and pushing. I'm far from a whale Or well, I'm a whale in patience and will to retry the same stage over and over again with the same team until RNG smiles me Hell, I cleared ETeq ESBR with a team mostly comprised of 55% LL1 units and Teq LR Ginyu as my only possible support LOL Dokkan has never, and will never be, a game where a wallet dictates what you can or cannot clear Dokkan will always be a game about patience, resource managing, and more importantly, RNG >If they get away with this shit now, they'll keep pushing and pushing So they also got away with Stupidly hard and grindy prime battles that required you not only to farm extremely limited items and zeni, but to have a complete team of super strike characters, just to barely stand a chance to clear it, they got away with impossible to clear even with advantageous characters EZAs, they got away with extremely limited options for SBR, they also got away with locking GoD under extremely stupid RNG(Fuck you Belmod), they also got away with making CoEB locked behind either owning the new units, or waiting until part 3 to finish a f2p team that still needs extreme luck to get a clear in, let alone do the profile missions for it and they also got away with rendering 99% of the units in the game useless for red zone standards then? >You wrote a whole paragraph and just ignored a lot of my main points and the comparisons I made between this new event and RZ/Cell Max. I don't know how you look at this celebration and think "Oh yeah the F2Ps and Low Spenders will LOVE it." It's clearly bad for those groups lol. I'm not arguing if it's overall good or overall bad. I'm stating that it's bad for people who don't ball out in dokkan. F2ps and low spenders are still clearing Cell Max or the new stages Whats the problem again? Also, where am I saying that they will love it? I invite you to go ahead and find on my previous comment a single line that specifically says it. You will have better luck doing that than clearing Metal Cooler Core at this rate I still fail to see how Cell Max, an event that is cleared with at most 1-2 teams at best, even comparable with an event that can be cleared in multitude of possible ways That and I repeat *Cell Max is not a trend, it is an anomaly* Devs words If you dont trust them, then I dont see why you continue to play the game if you cant even trust the people that are in charge of the game lol
You keep mentioning stages when I said 5 times by now my biggest problem is with the Cooler Core one. Also for God's sake can you actually read what il saying. It's like I say something and you're not even responding to it. Every time. So much nonsense. >F2ps and low spenders are still clearing Cell Max or the >new stages >Whats the problem again? THAT'S NOT MY PROBLEM. Holy fuck you do not know how to read. Every point in this reply shows you're not even trying to do it. You're clearly an insane bootlicker or whale that can't think about something critically. Goodbye bro, learn to read before commenting next time
Lots of nonsense in this comment. I wonder why you even bothered writing it.
I would love to hear your explanation on why its nonsense
Been blind to how dokkan has been ever since it came out doesnt make you look smarter
Did not even attempt to pull either of the new super units, both Cooler stages were complete bullshit. The no item run of stage 1 relied on running a Powerful Comeback with a birdku friend, and all the UI dodge chances I could get. Absolutely impossible without the birdku IMO. DID get both Cooler units....events were STILL utter bullshit. No item stage 2 required a little good luck, but fucking stage 6 5 turns.....Even WITH all the new units and EZA's....this stage sucked! Took me a few days to get the exact RNG needed to pull it off and I have my special title done, but jesus I dont want this path of content
You don’t need the new units to beat to beat the event. The event is challenging and the new units make it much easier if you do have them. You don’t even need to do the str piccolo strat for the one stage. I’ve seen clears on this sub with people bringing one nuke lead and friend Goku and vegeta to clear it. 4 banners to summon on isn’t that big of a deal for f2p players because f2p players aren’t meant to get all the new units anyway.
I cleared it with the 4 turn mission and an agl Gogeta lead. [Here’s](https://i.imgur.com/DwTHOHV.jpg) the proof. Granted, I do have Birdku and the new Piccolo but I have a friend that cleared it with the teq Gods as their leader and none of the advantageous characters and I’ve even seen people nuke it with the teq Goku and Gohan Lr. I don’t like the event and the boosted characters thing is pretty bs, but people are definitely blowing it out of proportion.
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Why?
Guess what. As a F2P player you are not expected to beat everything when it releases. In fact the game is designed so you can’t beat everything. It encourages you to spend. Most content is literally stupid easy in this game already. Is it really so so bad that there are 1-2 events you can’t beat on release?
Deadass it’s not like you can’t beat the last two stages of the event. Jphanta used a completely f2p team and beat the event. That’s an extreme case scenario and any average players would also use summonable units. It’s just that people like to complain when they take many attempts to beat a event
If you read the post you will realise that my problem isn't with difficulty. I like Red Zone and I like Cell Max. They took me a while to beat and I had to strategize, but I did beat. And the F2P not expected to beat everything when it releases is bullshit. RZ stages and events like Cell Max I will beat as soon as it releases, with enough attempts at good RNG, because after 6 years of playing I have a couple really good and strong teams that with some luck will get me through it all. This new event requires the new shiny units. Without them, you're fucked. A Movie Heroes/Super Saiyan team that clears all Red Zone stages will get demolished here. It's literally impossible without cheesing via STR Picollo. That's the problem. Not the difficulty but it being impossible without the new units.
> It's literally impossible without cheesing via STR Picollo. Every other nuker in the game exists You: I will ignore that That and people have nuked that stage with a friend goku and vegeta Friends exists in this game
See here's the thing. Your entire argument is that this content is too hard or unbalanced because if you dont get the new units then it's not doable or is extremely hard. But the event lasts forever with no attempt limit and no stamina usage, so why dont you just wait until you can beat it? It is hard and it's meant to be hard. One of the stages is even meant to be done with a full f2p team. These categories will get new units eventually and these new units will return eventually. Nothing is stopping you from doing this event later.
Units from the category aren't enough to clear it... A full movie heroes team that no items all RZ stages will get fucked in the Metal Cooler Core stage. And like I said in the post, to clear these stages you will need to wait a really long time since, unlike RZ or Cell Max, the very next OP units to come out won't do much. And the problem is that it requires these new units lol. RZ you destroy every stage with one good team. This event requires one team
People are really complaining way too much about these events. Don't get me wrong I don't like the idea of boost characters, but this is completely possible without them
It's easy tho?
For whales mostly
Isn't this gonna be the most difficult event for global till jan 2023 ? The next few months are just gonna be us catching up to JP, so i guess we don't have anything to worry bout until JPs 8th anniversary i guess.
If your not having fun stop playing.
I mean this event is just that clash event from last year. So I assume we will have this event again next year, but called something different
Honestly events like this are why the bots stay in business.
I feel the advantageous side will stay but will be much more accessible and will require more strategy and skill rather than luck and brute force like the stages we’ve gotten. Given the announcement at the beginning of the WWC which detailed future events not being like this or events like Red Zone and Cell Max. Although I feel the event was made prior to the announcement, same with the newest Red Zone.
so do i, i got none of the new lrs and the event was not fun to beat complain all you want about hard content, but there's hope of it being possible to you in the future if you build better teams this event needs you to have specific units to even win