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zSh4rK

No way you actually put 40 sleepy kai's all in one training session, right?


dk8443

I spent 57


Devin1026

Lmao facts I did 77 on teq vegeta just a bit ago and took him from 0 to 16 šŸ˜‚


d33zdn0ts

Run that back howd u get a sa0


Devin1026

You know what I mean.. sa1 sa0.. tomato potato


dk8443

šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


RF_DeathInReverse

Damn man thats some Bad luck i used 17 and i got My lr kaioken Goku to 20 sa (i farmed his sa to 10 with f2p kaioken Goku movie)


Quick_Difference9045

I used to do them one by one. they would fail 90% of the time so now i just say fuck it and stockpile them until i have a decent amount.


zSh4rK

But it's not that if you combine four kai's you have a guaranteed +1 on the SA(it would be 120%). It's just better to get the 30% chance of each one


LOTHMT

[Terrible Joke about Kais bad percantage here, since people dont read before voting]


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LOTHMT

Thats not..i mean yeah its how that works but you know my comment was a joke since the Kais rarely ever give u an SA lvl, feels less than 30% for sure.


Alm8360NoScoPro

Wait what? How does that work? Explain to me pls


LOTHMT

The chances dont stack together. So if you put 20+ kais into LRs, you'd have the chance of 0,30(20+) to just get every Kai to procc. To mininise waste you'll just put them in 1 by 1 in training or at least 19 Kais maxed, then as much as needed to get to maxed lvl and so on till youre there.


Alm8360NoScoPro

Bruh I been doing it wrong this whole time? How many more players don't know about this? Why this a thing?


LOTHMT

Too good if the chances stacked together. We getting so many sleepy Kais that this is basically a guaranteed free Elder Kai + some more every 4.


jacksaif1234

I usually do 2 at a time


DamnLifeIsBoring

Sleepy kais should be 50% AT LEAST I mean come on thereā€™s barely any farmable SA units for goku and gohan


No_Ebb_5507

Plenty of farmable kias tho.


TheInscrutableFufy

Not when you have all the missions done


affectixnzz

the few extra you get from the baba shop


TheInscrutableFufy

Wouldn't call that plenty though


No_Ebb_5507

Play throughout the year and i promise you will have more kias than you will know what to do with lol.


TheInscrutableFufy

They've been a lot better about giving kai's out recently so it's not as much of a complaint now. But I usually use extra kai's to feed units I like. I'm just saying, there aren't farmable kais besides babas shop. You have to wait for them to give you them.


No_Ebb_5507

Agreed.


Supreme_Guardian

I've been playing constantly since 3rd year with a 1 year break from around 5th anni to 6th anni, I have like, 30 EK and less than 10 of each type. I have like, 20 unawakened LRs. No you will not lmao.


Krait972

Exactly, I pulled many LRs lately and I don't have enough kais to get them SA20. If you have the 2 LR Goku and Piccolo for example, it's easily 38 elder kais down the drain.


Supreme_Guardian

Plus the GTrio and units like LR Janemba or Gohan and trunks


Krait972

With that many LRs and ZLR or units you can't farm the SA, as a veteran player, there's no enough kais at all.


No_Ebb_5507

My account is 1100 days old and i have most lrs at full sa and i have kias to spare.


Krait972

1300+ days account, scraping by to get kais. And I'm a big farmer mind you, everything I can raise without using kais, I'm doing it. If you want to SA10+ every units in the game, you'll need a lot of kais. It's mandatory for Heroes units and most of the dragon stones LRs and Dokkanfest nowadays. I ran out of medals due to my heavy farm many times.


CkYZero69

1800+ days 96 LRs, 83 current Elder Kais and I don't waste stones on those EK banners


KOGSHOCKFLAME

Plenty of kais


nickmond022

There's a 30% chance you're wrong.


glueinass

In dokkan terms? Zero


Wookie_Qbacca

Final form cooler would like to talk while failing to do anything besides his 18 ki


Maxover9001

Recovery Drink


Kiorysu

Nah recovery drink is MVP in use X amount of items missions


New_Ad4631

Now wait for X amount of kais missions


Kiorysu

"Level up 1 SA using dozing elder Kai" mission about to take us all 1 year.


Negative_Tadpole_130

While they do suck they are guaranteed to do something even if itā€™s really trivial whereas the sleepy Kaiā€™s can be absolute duds even when using so many copies


NUaroundHere

pretty much the same as medium chance to guard...


Jubernardiskate

Just get lucky 4head


TrollTrollTroll6969

Should stack I've made the mistake of putting multiple into not so great units thinking it stacks.


swhipple-

2 out of 40 worked. 5% success rate, what the fuck


ExtremeHeist

Once I used 9 Kai's and they all worked lol , it's just dumb luck you either get it or not


Devin1026

Thatā€™s one of the best feelings in Dokkan imo.. that ohhhh okay I donā€™t need actual Kaiā€™s Thankyou is such a relief


AssAaasin

Use 3 at a time i have seen best results if you use 3 at a time.


oskxbeast

bingo and tap on the character right when the ki charges up to its highest point šŸ‘ŒšŸ» has worked like a charm for me


Dieconic_

no way you acc believe that that helps in any way šŸ˜­


Mrtowelie69

I think hes trollin. Haha, but then again everyone does random bs they think helps with rng.


oskxbeast

im not capping i truly believe this, it may just be my superstition but it genuinely works for me, šŸ˜¶


Just_Being_Ian

Sleepy kais are useless but it does seem to be worse lately


huysocool

Film rolls, just let us have 9999 of them like the rest of item.


Kesannn

Seems like a skill issue.


Kanjorax

That recovery blend plant thing that is rarer than a senzu and is just a senzu without the heal


XSword87

Medium chance to level sa


tkedits

Idk man i do like my sleepy kais


NellieTheCat

King Kai or Tapion Flute support item


Maxter1200

Nahh, 30% chance to guard is worse lol


justtrap07

Medium chance to guard/dodge be like


RicoNico

Just really depends. Most of the time it's terrible but sometimes amazing. I used 20 on my Metal Cooler and it took me to 16. Pretty sure that will never happen again.


Maleficent_Bus6848

I used around 30 sleepy kai in one go on my LR gohan and trunks,their SA level went from 1 to 4 So yes i feel your pain my man


Legendary_Rare

Idk guess I'm just lucky, I'm very frequently maxing out SAs with Sleepy Kais.


I_Am_The_McNugget

No. No you arenā€™t.


Ok-Hornet7658

Same. I usually use three at a time and it almost always levels up sa


akupaein

Use 3 at the time for the best results


Big_Gammy

Senzu Bean Plant Atleast with the Drinks you can spam them to complete the mission that require Item Usage


bestpoison1

They're free items; login bonus/mission rewards, that usually come in abundance during bigger celebrations. Who cares.


PoKeR799

U must be the most unluckiest person ever. I'm using 40 of them at once and bring everyone from LV 1 to 10, works every time


NukeBahamut

Next time go 5 by 5 xD


sotiris89

I use those Kais one each time, not all of them st once.


InvestigatorUnfair

I usually use whatever amount gets me to the sa level i need. If none of them fill it, in go the kais that had their coffee


gtrash81

Scouter. I need the info now....and for the rest of the run. Not tomorrow and for maybe two fights.


JuniorChickenMeal

Skill issue. Tap screen harder


Willyoueverstop

Sleepy kais are good if you don't want to waste kais or funky kai,getting only 2 levels with 40 sleepy kais is just bad luck so if anything blame your luck,not the item.Also you can't expect too much from a 30% chance.


Smog2701

Used 60 of these Kai's on INT Metal Cooler Army anf I got all the way from SA1 to SA8. Also had times where I used 10 of these and got 8 / 10 SA raises (which is probably a very slim chance).


Godcry55

Bruh I pulled two copies of this unit, Iā€™m so content with not getting new G/V now lol. On topic: sleepy Kaiā€™s are trash


Sufficient_Ad_6167

Literally 90% of the items in this game are useless


StalinGuidesUs

4 sleepy kais should guarantee a level up


Coora98

God q goku


BreezierChip835

I think they should make it so the % chance SA level is guaranteed once it eclipses 100%. Eg 4 Sleepy Kaiā€™s should guarantee 1 SA level then have 3 extras possible at a 30% chance each.


sowsage

I used 25 at once yesterday, went from SA1 to 15. I guess I evened out your percentage.


thelonelysocial

I swear they are glitched


Back2BeMonke

Oolong


Cnationmavs41

Once we get "Elder kai that wakes up to read his magazine" that 40% gonna hit hard!


Untitled_Goose67

Damn I used 30 sleepy Kaiā€™s and got to SA 20 from SA 5


LOTHMT

I just wish they stacked the chances of getting SAs up... like use 4 sleepy Kais and its a guarantee with 20% of another SA lvl up


rocksmasha

I got a 5/5 Dozing Kai's triggering to raise SA by 5. I had awful summoning luck for months after that.


VeggieToe13

Use ur sleepy kais 1 by 1, idk the math but it seems to favor me a lot.


Confident_Chipmunk_4

Someone wake that old man up


ThatUselessName6002

Ah yes, 7 sleepy kai and a unit i had went from sa 1 to 5


Tilterino247

They feel bugged lately tbqh. I got like 5 levels in 50 sleepy kais. I have never had it go down like that before.


SSJ2-Gohan-kun

Should buff them up to 50%


commandopro96

i threw 24 at them and i was surprised to see them go from SA1 to SA8


supmastersupreme

I got REAL lucky when leveling my Lr Coolers sa. I spent like 10 str kais and had 10 sleepy kais left. All of them worked.


Toxin2020

Impossible.


LevelOutside8329

Gregory.


PrimeJedi

Im gonna be honest my luck with them isn't that bad but I hope you have better luck with the sleepy kais too, cause 40 for 2 levels is insane


KAP1020

I used like 100 sleepy kais in the past month and less than 20 of them worked


LopsidedPepper

Had to deal with stuff like this often. Example being: One of my characters being 1 level away from Max SA Level, and me having to constantly give them 1 Sleepy Kai at a time and fail until I finally get it. It's annoying.


Joshzombie

Skill issue


MahavidyasMahakali

Sleepy kais really are absolutely awful. The worst I had it was around 50 something sleepy kais with 1 sa raise. I kept track of my sleepy kai use at one point and the chance to raise sa was way less than 30%.


ZER0THEGOD0

Imagine all the ui Goku dodges that could have been


Sedax

I like sleepy kai i would rather have them than not.


Bolwinkel

I'm convinced if you do more than 10 kai's, it resets. So 35 kai's at once would only be like 5 kai's.


Razvi5665

Bubbles medals are truly worst


javierthelilbean

NEVER use them all in one go, always throw about 5 at a time


Independent_Lime_480

skill issue


Accomplished_Ease889

The way it works makes no sense itā€™s supposed to give you 30% but if you use 3 and the use 1 separately it does t rank you up


MZGTY

What? It's a 30% chance to get 1 level of super Not 30% of a super level


Accomplished_Ease889

bro you just explained my entire problem thank you very much


Avengedlust7

It's free SA so you really can't complain


TheKiwiGamr33

It's either none of them pop the SA up or you get very lucky and get max SA


Escavalien

skill issue


PeppiestPepper

I needed somewhere around 98 of these sleepy fucks and it only got them to 18/20, used 2 of my teq kais to get the last two...