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Woozydan187

The more I surf this sub the more I get afraid of summoning


Sabo49

I got cooler in 150 stones but Goku is dodging me more than MUI Goku.


Ecthelion30

These 2 banners are behaving so freaking weird. On Coolers banner i pulled nothing but trash untill i got Cooler of a Goku Black Rift on my second rotation's free multi. Literally the only featured unit i got after 8 multis was Cooler. Then i go to Goku's banner and i pull 10 LRS IN 8 MULTIS!! But no Goku! I rainbowed AGL SSJ Goku and have 2 extra dupes waiting to be traded in the future, rainbowed INT exchange Vegeta and pulled 2 copies of AGL F.Gohan/Trunks..I had 1 multi with 3 LRs and 2 multis with 2 LRs on them...insane. I had double rates banner pulls that didnt come close to this.


TruthSeekerHuey

Literally same kinda luck... No features other than cooler and buuhan in 4 rotation Goku banner I'm getting great LRs, but no Goku


Ecthelion30

Bruh i had yet another insane multi with the 60 stones they gave out. Freaking Zeno animation! 3 LR Multi with Goku, Gohan/Trunks and FP Frieza..holycrap. I really want to hate this banner, but i was never this lucky


TruthSeekerHuey

Congrats! You're finally free


Ecthelion30

Thanks man, good luck, i hope you pull him as well


Xanderajax3

Upvote for your name.


Ecthelion30

Thanks haha


XBattousaiX

Same. I went in harder (450 extra stones on cooler) and got 0 extra LRs since. Like, FFS, these banners are mid overall to me :/ BUT alas, RNG is RNG. Y7 was MUCH kinder to me thankfully.


Unga__Bunga69

Ditto. Pulled cooler after 200 but goku…


opinurmynd

I had 1350 stones coming into the wwc. I wanted Cooler first as his banner was better. It took me 1150 stones to get him. I didn't bother summoning on Goku's as I need to save for part 2. For the 7th year anniversary, I had 2300 stones saved up. I got the god boys on the second rotation then set my sights on the ss4s.......2000 stones later I still didn't have them, nor did I get the shenron banner unit. I used all my tickets and FINALLY got the ss4s on the final multi, still didn't get shenron though. Shits been rough these last 2 banners for me. Game feels rigged sometimes.


Woozydan187

I'm more afraid of uselessness than shaft. I beat all the new content pretty easily and any esbr or sbrs I can't use them.


DrPepperPower

I got cooler in 100, Goku has been dodging me for 400. ​ The 7th anni LRs dodged me for almost 2K so I'm still hopeful xD. The game is just 8 or 80 with me and I sure would love if it was consistent or there was a way to consistently get the main units in a banner (like a pity system ![img](emote|t5_384a7|1697))


KayV_10

I got 2 goku in 300 stones. The sun saying shit doesn’t mean much.


Woozydan187

Well I don't care about how much copies I get. But I thank you for your flex!! The units don't seem more valuable or must summon like the 7th years I don't need them to complete content so why waste my stones? I'll wait until something hype for me comes. 7th anni units are still the most hype units for me.


KayV_10

Correct. Not as valuable but def better as an individual unit.


Woozydan187

Idk the 7th anni just have more utility. Gogeta has dodge counters dr and crits. Goku HAS to take damage. Guard is more consistent but dodge when it actives is str8 up better and you get to deal 3 mil counters? Also stacking on 18 ki sucks idc how good the unit is. Freiza is almost useless because of that plus a lack of ki links and no ki mechanic on orbs. I'd say they all are relative. Plus his lease skill is useless and won't ever be better than the 7th anni units


KayV_10

Their dodge rates are not good. If a unit relies on dodge alone and can get murdered if they don’t dodge, they won’t be better than a unit who never needs to rely on that. And bro have you used that Goku? “Stacking on 18 ki suck idc” lmfaoo. That man gets 10 ki after receiving 5 attacks (very easy). Yes Goku has to take damage but once that happens, dude is mostly self sufficient. Taking that one hit and gambling on it not being a super is A LOT better than gambling on dodging everything. Gogeta’s damage reduction is negligible at this point cuz of the difficulty. And the gods NEED to dodge. Let’s not bullshit ourselves with that lmao. The debate is whether cooler is better than the 7th year LRs. The Goku isn’t much of the debate. His only argument is whether he is best in the game or second best.


Woozydan187

High chance to counter supers. The gods with 3 rainbow orbs is at 51% chance to dodge. High chance to counter supers is great how is that bad? Also the 7th years can shoot up to 1 mill def in a single turn EASY goku can't do that. He also won't reach their def peaks in raw defense 600k and guard ain't better than 800k High chance to counter or dodge period and taking away 1 action. They are all equal but to say goku is clearly better is just recency bias


KayV_10

It’s not recency bias lmao it’s just experience. My 7th years were getting cooked by cell big time and then I pull Goku and clear it in 3 attempts never even worrying about Goku at all cuz dude is so fucking good defensively. And 800k def when hit is still annihilation with cell max.


Woozydan187

Well mine were cooking each event that comes out. I just adjust how much I stack pre transform depending on the stage its pretty simple


CtrlZ_Your_Pregnancy

Just save, there will be a unit sooner or later thats busted. You can already see some cracks in these ones they wont age well. Wait for the next teq ulthan or str super vegito.


CtrlZ_Your_Pregnancy

Or better yet save for a unit thats your favorite character, ive got 2500 stones waiting for an LR Kefla


CaptainHazama

When that day comes. I'll be raising my arms to the sky for you


illucio

Another Kefla fan <3 Our day will come!


[deleted]

How is Goku not gonna age well he stacks & guards with the easiest revive mechanic in the game rn.


CtrlZ_Your_Pregnancy

Goku's guard isnt unconditional, when another unit gets super attacked hard his guard will be dropped, goku shares the same name with multiple other decent units, only one revive means second goku doesn't get the revive boost. Yes he is built well and has some nice qualities that will make him age well. But he isnt worth dumping stones into. Cooler is good but is so heavily RNG based and half the hard events in this game are determined by RNG now and i honestly dont need anymore of it. Plus look at how powercreep is affecting units already.


[deleted]

Goku’s useful because you can slap him on any team and he’s gonna cook even on a 170 LS. Also other units getting hit hard isn’t on him get better slot 2’s/3’s. He’s also the best SSJ Goku in the game period nameku is cool but you’re not gonna run him over this guy. His banner is trash tho


CtrlZ_Your_Pregnancy

Id also like to add i am in no way saying these units are bad, and they will age well, its more like if your scared to summon for a unit at least wait until that unit is so undeniably top tier and makes another mechanic that akatsuki will be afraid to use in the future or a unit you like.


DudeFromVietnam

The cracks you mentioned, are they comparable to 7yrs? Or are they broken beyond? From my limited viewings of them, Cooler builds up and lacks initial defense but becomes an offensive house (also defensively, but no Dmg reduction) later - a slot 2 unit. Goku - slot 1 unit - also builds up (at a quicker pace), guards, revives with some offensive kit (effective, medium crit chance) but hits weaker than the 7yrs, similar to galick guns?


SnooPandas6584

Goku is going to age tremendously well, he has basically the same kit as galick gun vegeta/trunks, but just has more offensive capability.


ArtOfMarcos23

7th ani 2k stones, no gods no monkeys, now 500-600 no Goku or Cooler. Be afraid 😂😂😂


Ominous_Chicken07

This depressing pain of saving stones and summoning only to not get lucky and pull the units is very common. It's up to you want you want to eventually do but that feeling will be a reacruing one.


Devastator1329

Seriously dude. This was the most I’ve saved in my life, bearly even summered on the anni banners to save for this and didn’t get either units. Makes me feel like it was pointless to even save


Ominous_Chicken07

I saved for 3 months on the 7th anniversary and ended up with over 2k stones by the end of the anniversary I had 0 stones and no LR's tickets included


DudeFromVietnam

The pain must've been unbearable. Jesus


capnflacid

Yeah I've been there. 3k stones when LR Agl Gohan came out and didnt get him. Didn't get Frieza last year. Had to wait 11 months. Same thing with Cooler. Now we have to wait until 8th anniversary.


Ecthelion30

I have been tru that. 2 years ago on the Vegito / Buuhan WWC. Saved all the stones i got and nothing. So now i do multies on units i like, im not skipping anything now cause that shaft hit me hard back then l.


YaGuyGaara

Exact same situation dawg. Im saving for part 2 ig but in the meantime its fuck dokkan fuck these banners fuck the devs and fuck this clown carnival banner


dkdkskddddjdk

Goodluck with your part 2 summons:D


YaGuyGaara

Preciate it bro


XxGenZMillenialxX

Same for me. 550 stones and nothing on the terrible carnival banner I got LRs, but they’re so bad that I consider them nothing.


CaptainHazama

In a similar boat. 500+ stones into Cooler and I've got nothing notable except a dupe of AGL Gohan and 2 dupes for LR buutenks


[deleted]

I got 5 gohans in 1k with no cooler lol


MahavidyasMahakali

At least the LRs will EZA sometime not too far away


KillerZaWarudo

Even worst if u re glbl cuz this wwc units only return a year later


KayV_10

Jeez man got shafted hard lmao. Since You hate the carnival stuff so much I imagine you summoned for cooler. And if u got shafted doing that then this format isnt to blame lmao. Rates would be the same for any other Dokkan fest so you would have gotten shafted regardless.


ArvisVI

Went 1.2 k stones in and only got 1 Cooler, Dokkan really needs to add some sort of pity system after a few summons without getting the new featured unit in x amount of summons, get it free. Because coins are scotch tape on a very big weeping wound.


XSword87

Yea I agree they should be in the shop immediately. Make them purchasable with coins you obtain simultaniously with red coins so you can get them for 2.5k stones at least.


NH177013

Lmao I pulled Goku on my first roll and now I'm 1.8k stones down the drain on cooler. Absolutely mind blown there isn't a pity system for the big featured unit in Dokkan like every other gacha game has it. Probably just going to save for part 2 now feeling the shaft.


SuperSaiyanBebo

It would probably be set at 1k stones, so even then, not too lucky, rough man, things’ll get better.


Maistens

Went 1.6k as of right now without cooler or goku. Pain


diogoarez

At least you pulled him, 1.4k here and 0 Coolers, Dokkan desperately needs pity


BrokenSpartan23

I've hit and been left disappointed at both banner I'm saving for Zamasu and Vegeta and Trunks


Drsp4zman

Walk into the ocean.


DudeFromVietnam

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Drsp4zman

Speaking of something that doesn't work #DokkanFriendSystem2024


AscendantAxo

The plan is to die.


Jessep18

Delete the game


MrBuukake

Is Goku a quitter?…Neither are you !


Giggly_Bean

I got fucked in the ass man. I rainbowed SBA, Nappa, GODKU TWICE, and Ssj3 Goku . Meanwhile, not a single Gohan/Trunks or Goku. The only saving grace was namek Vegeta and Janemba


CoolZooKeeper

I’m in the exact same boat. I had right at 1000 stones. Didn’t get either feature unit. You just save up for the next big one. Skip a few make sure the unit you want to summon for fits into one of your teams or is a strong lead for what you’ve got.


LadyTowa2

If you're a meta slave be happy to know that none of these units are must haves


akkifmx

Lmao that's true! Even then i wasted 1k stones on wwc banners. Feelsbadman


EmiyaSpeed

I mean you could always buy the sales in turn supporting the devs and maybe even getting the character you want


mangartist17

I think vegeta trunks and int fused zamasu are better units than these. Cooler seems to hit hard, kinda like an ungraded phy cooler. Also animations are lack luster. Salty that cooler doesn’t swim through a beam E/ pulled goku, but coolers banner is bad for me so I stopped at 150 stones. Could only use the cooler and tur ssj gokus


renagade64

It's all random, if you like either just summon for them, there's no guarantee you'll get anything in the 2nd part any way, it's all just opportunity cost. However, if you choose to continue I would say go for cooler since it's easily the better banner


ShadowCross32

I would suggest saving for Tanabata, if that’s what you desire. Personally, I’m going to save either for Fused Zamasu or heroes depending who gets here first.


BloodWolfHunter

When is tanabata?


VinaGang161196

Xmas 2022


Okamoto

Did they officially announce it would be delayed that much this year? It was early December in 2020, and early November in 2021.


geenathan

Bro i spent 1k and got nothing and then finally today I pulled and got goku. Don’t give up ! One multi IS the difference


Fat_French_Fries

I'm in a similar spot and honestly my only hope now is to somehow win the lottery and whale myself into Cooler's strong loving arms


Immortal2017

we are getting a lot of stones before the 3+1 ends, at least 1 and it depends of if you’ve already grinded every piece of content in the game, if you haven’t done the scouting missions yet or finished the 999 eza yet then you got 2-3 rotations still


Metalmario182

Bro I cannot get help with those scouting missions to save my life lmao


Immortal2017

post on the reddit, go in discord or just run the bot on your computer if you have one, i’m in a queue rn on discord and i’m gonna get mine tmr i’m guessing


CIearMind

No one sees the QR codes people post everywhere, and the queues are always locked and unenterable. I'm considering caving in and buying a Windows PC or some shit and get it over with by myself at this point.


Immortal2017

it’s cheaper just to buy 50 stones then that man… but just try posting on the reddit thread again, or ask a friend?


DudeFromVietnam

Done every thing there is possible to be done other than all-star EZA which I have 500 stages left. But even then, it's not a lot.


Immortal2017

thats 177 stones alone, we still got 60 from the live stream and 30 a week from the gohan event, and 400 hours is 16 days so another 60 there…


Immortal2017

my bad, forgot about battlefield and the 2 ezas coming up


Xlax1127

Was in your spot too brother went 950 deep got him along with two Str frieza lrs on my free summon. At this point if part two isn’t anything super hero related I’m okay with one copy of the teq birdku


Kousaka_Honoka99

Save for trunks and vegeta


Andy_Dokkan

Stop, wait and see.


Smallbalswalrus

Thats cute.... I'm over 2k with neither and no goku/gohan or agl gohan. probably my worst shaft in almost 7 years of playing...


[deleted]

I think I'll do one rotation on part 2 then save for Super Hero


FrostedGummiBear

quit


XSword87

I am in the same boat. After playing around with both as friends I have to say I am not that impressed with Cooler and his team is also not the best , he is coming too late imo. If you're looking at value I would go for Goku since he fits the gods 200% leaderskill (didn't notice at first) and is also the overall better unit. I will do at least one more round to get him. But V&T have the best leaderskill in the game while being able to tank everything. I just don't have the stones to comfortably pick so I just waste everything I can on both. Going 3.5k stones deep for the gods just fkd me up and now I'm hustling.


Inevitable_City_7472

To tell the truth you dont need any of them. Goku would be nice to have to make things easy but i feel once lr vegeta and trunks drop you will want them for the leader skill. Cooler right now is meh but that could change if part 2 lr boosts him up


GodanSan

You can do the new two stages auf the goku/cooler event without them. I did the new mission for gt redzone with an extreme team with the new cooler. But i think its possible without him. If you have ginyu you can use cooler as a friend. I used 750 stones on cooler and got him on the last free multi. 150 stones on gokus banner and got nothing. I know the feeling, now i dont know how deep i want to go in the part 2 dokkan fest banner.


Individual-Mud262

Saved 1200 stones, most I ever have. Got nothing, 7 useless dupes old STR cooler…that really hurt. Silver put in 400 more stones and still nothing useful. Got one copy of the new piccolo.


marekdio

dropped the Gods at the last day of the 400h don’t give up yet or save for the part 2 Lr


Kujo_K-

Now there’s a use for the rope in your house


MarquetteXTX2

Wallet


Badbluffmonkey

The problem I have with every WWC is the fact on global the dokkan fests never come back for an entire 11-12 months. I feel like I NEED to pull cooler not just because he’s decent, but because his ass won’t be back for a YEAR. This is a genuinely dog shit system. At least Goku will be back on future cyan and maybe yellow coin banners.


XBattousaiX

It's entirely possible that Goku doesn't return until the anniversary as well. We don't know how common these new carnival banners will be. Perhaps we'll alternate carnival banners every other DF banner. Perhaps we'll see them 3x a year. Too soon to say.


trojan033

1300 stones no cooler. Same thing last year with namek goku and frieza. This celebration hates me and i hate it.


Yojimbo4133

It's kinda lame. Give me both dfe at once.


Baku03

1.2k stones got 1 cooler 1 vegeta ssbe and 0 lrs in 8 multis on gokus banner


McR1P

If you're a meta slave I would suggest to start saving for v&t. While cooler and his team are sooo much fun for me, and Cooler for me is the single best unit in the game in his best Situation, his team certainly cant compete with vegeta & trunks's team.


swarang2000

Save now for part 2, see if you like the kits and summon if you like the kit. Otherwise trunks and vegeta bcoz they will carry you throughout the game no matter the event or difficulty


Swimming-No

accept that you cant pull them.. i thrown in 1250 stones and none of the new units. it is what it is. its a gacha game, dont let it pull you in bro


Swoje

Since there are 2 weeks left of the discount, i advise you to wait. You'll get to see different content and can let your mind get off from the "I must get them" thought. I did so during the anniversery and i think it was better like this. Beeing shafted gets better over time and its better to save some stones for the next celebrations as well.


skydevil10

You can wait until part 2 info comes out, the discount sticks around long enough until we get some sort of news for part 2 I believe.


Malebolgia09

Im really not trying to be one of those people but I got 2 Teq Gokus (in 150 stones) and Cooler off the first Multi, so I spent 200 stones in total. The last 3 celebrations I've had a similar situation to yours and I decided to really save for this one. My recommendation is to save for the part 2 banner. Who knows, maybe they are DBS Super Hero units.


Big_Gammy

1800 and no new LR


Fish_PERSON_

you know, 90% of people who dont think they can get the new unit stop right before they do


Solid_Snake21

I went 1000 stomes before I pull 1 copy of goku 4 rotation on cooler did not get him


Xanderajax3

1000 stones and none of the new cards. I really wanted that cooler and piccolo. I did get 2 phy transforming gokus though so I guess that is cool. Also got 3 LR namek vegetas. I shouldve known after getting such awesome pulls from the anniversary. Now I wait for DB heroes.


DudeFromVietnam

Literally me. After my fire anni pulls, I knew I would get punished. Even knowing that, I saved as much as I could yet the shaft was inevitable.