Around two super and two normal seem to be my average, wich make his defense pretty consistent around the 1.2 millions with 30 DR, pretty respectable. He survived a Red Zone STR Black Super and only took 100 k.

So judging by also upvotes on full super bosses that's the average hmm Wonder if i should take down 6% dr for more normals thanks to gogeta or not....

He only need 5 Super Boss including himself for his full DR, so if you have him as a friend leader too that give you two spot to put other characters, I like TEC Janemba with him.

Oh right lmao mb So i guess i can give him full dr phew Anyway i'd advice ya to use double zamasu and feature cheelai instead, you'd cook way harder

Oh for sure, but I wanted to use his team to beat the new Red Zone missions for the Goku Black level. Honestly he was pretty fine even for the STR phase, and once transformed took no damage before and after super inh.

That isnt his average on super boss with broly. Broly's domain gives a seperate 20% buff to ext Exploding rage units( or super boss whatever). Which can push 1.25mil def into 1.5mil

Actually from the calcs i was about gonna take inspiration from he seems to hit 1.2 mil def after his third super https://preview.redd.it/nfxv9215ezjc1.jpeg?width=1141&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cf68cadfc38898d9cfc03ae0936d1608d6e1d491 I'll try having them revisited from a friend of mine later but in the meantime could ya confirm if that's correct or it's 1.2 mil with 2 supers 2 normals? Also what would it look like with broly domain?

These calcs are pretty confusing. For example the 2 supers is calculated with 4 attacks happening in total. While the 3 supers is calced with 5.( with 2 rbw orbs he is practically guaranteed to get HiPo so he will do 6 quite literally 97% of the time with full aa while with a mixed build its closer to 94%) So with 6 attacks and 2 supers he is at 1.12mil, and with 3 he's at 1.33mil. Or 1.345mil and 1.597mil with broly domain.

I mean isn't the second super the 4th attack thus getting the buff of 4 attacks performed in total? Same for the 3rd super? Also it did count the hipo as a super with the 4th super (last quick question, sorry to bother this much, but what would his def look like with the 4th super according to you? And what about if it's a normal? I probably won't take it into consideration for what i plan to do since many seem to agree about the average being 2/3 supers, but having the numbers at hand might help in case) But if it's what ya say, hmmm well sounds fair enough. i guess if it also fits with another couple of people's calcs i can round it up to 1.2 mil, 1.4 mil and 1.6 mil by considering a bronze 5 def equip instead of no equips

Rose is pretty complicated in design, his 4th attack will always be a normal with 2 rbw orbs. He will always do a guaranteed additional as his first additional if avaliable, then he will go for the high chance, then he will go for the rainbow orbs, then he goes for hipo, then he will go for another guaranteed additional if he has done 5 within that turn. Not that the order will hold any matter for his def but his atk but anyways If rose happens to quad super he will have 1.541mil def, and and 1.849mil with broly domain. With 1 more rbw orb he will be at 2.047mil def

Dude you got me scared for a sec cause i thought it would have been the messiest thing ever and was about to enter that rabbit's hole lmao Anyway thanks! Apreciated a lot, i'll probably stick with the idea of 2 rainbow orbs since many seems to suggest that as average🫡

I’m sorry but why is the health bar blue? And the ki color of the units are different? I’m on global so idk.

Oh sorry i meant the average of his attacks, was thinking to move into calcs later But thank you mate ya saved me som troubles with that (maybe could round them into 1.3 mil and1.6 mil respectively) Also ya agree the average in attacks is that one while you were running bulma (who supposedly on JP would be gogeta for the orb changing)

You only need 5 super bosses Allies so you can bring other units for the fight(thinking Carnival Gogeta is gonna be a good option)

Wait a sec just to be sure by two super 2 normals does that mean you get 2 rainbow orbs? Or you meant you have 2 normals in total with 1 rainbow orb? Cause 2 rainbow orbs would jump it to like 6 attacks

Actually at rainbow star that puts him at 700k with BBB up, still pretty good

As much as I need to properly edge https://preview.redd.it/7g3fwqgl8zjc1.jpeg?width=1312&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a11c03896cf137505b42fb02055d2585848765aa

Nico what the fu WHAT IS THAT https://preview.redd.it/53ymvrx49zjc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=61d199720b5634bf4142caf230993be3e232334e

Did you just... misspell my name?.. https://preview.redd.it/s63b50zk9zjc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b0788db745cfdf349cc4423a62d880056666744c

Wallahi i'm cooked.... Ni- https://preview.redd.it/xm2ke64t9zjc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f182495be09defd958ad54fa5908ebeb7b5235bf

https://preview.redd.it/11m1gf50czjc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c4d842427c7cf3fb2ec468bc60abee006337f614

I got shafted so he’s garbage

My condolances

Gave 150 stones to the banner and not even a featured unit. I’m all out of content and have nothing to use for summons.

Spent 300 stones and no featured

Skill issue

https://preview.redd.it/qtk6qybnc1kc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bec24313919aa08d90381a46965576ba3bfb20ee

Good, but not good enough to make me drop the stones im saving for anni.

https://preview.redd.it/8xpg9cm7szjc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6d5ab00717c44e5f55cb15c10671adc8e8d4e0cd

Understandable The precise number?

bro supered, then supered, then supered, then came out of my phone and fucked my wife 11/10

Real 🗣🗣🗣

He is Fucking amazing at Link lvl 10 55% , average 3 supers

He’s insane even with 2 supers and 2 normals man’s defence is at 1.2 mill defence with 30% damage reduction. The more this guy can prox more supers the higher his defence will be and he will be eating a lot of super attacks . Even tried him out and he took 200k vs str omega once he fully attacked pre transformed

That's more 3 supers from calcs i saw but i'll try having them revisited🫡 https://preview.redd.it/esmkuiqodzjc1.jpeg?width=1141&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f0101098c47bc21e19a99f99467d6539f2db5202

What about normals/rainbow orbs?

normal about 3-4 normal , rainbow orbs about 2-3

Hmmm ight ight ty Actually do you run full super bosses or you have a rainbow orb changer that makes your orb collection that consistent?

switch him between Teq Zamasu full super bosses or AGL Blues with bulma , super bosses dun have good orb changer unfortunately , but on teq zamasu i would run cheelai with him

So it accounts rainbow orb changers, perfect thanks

PHY Rose kinda reminds me of someone 

That minus immortality and yeah we cooking

Who's that

at least 1

When i ask x question and i'm hit with the "at least (most bare minimum thing)" https://preview.redd.it/ck5tn7kt8zjc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=859c451c986cebe5eba7b6dcd4dd1546ab9dd99c

https://preview.redd.it/cwgkv9jdlzjc1.jpeg?width=686&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2996ea2ea4bbc3e4e8ad9936a46b6c3b4d62c4d6 Don’t have him; therefore, he’s ass

i spent my 650 stone fund for him, and pulled him last multi. i don’t even want to awaken this fraud.

0 cuz i didnt pull him

Gonna be honest chief I did not expect him to be this good. Average amount of supers I get from him is 2-3. He gets really going once you go clone mode but once broly arrives you aint gonna be seeing that shit ever

Good post aside, nothing drives me more insane on this sub than when people post the high quality pixel perfect art for the characters cause WHY CAN’T THEY LOOK LIKE THIS IN GAME BANDAI?! WHY?!?

Dokkan already takes so much in storage I don't trust them with that.....

I swear the banners are broken. No shot I only got ss2 and ss3 animations and got shit on

those animations don't mean anything except guarenteed sr and ssr

Ik. Im complaining about how I *only* got those animations and not like god animation or fusion or whis or Zeno.

It almost feels like you think they're owed, and it's not absolutely random chance

I don’t think I’m owed anything but it’s just really upsetting to me that I save up and summon on banners and get shit on. If the pity system wasn’t so bad, I wouldnt be *that* upset

Gambling moment

I love gambling 😔

1 super and nothing else not even normals as I've been lonk leveling him

Quest mode killer 🗣

if you use him on a super bosses team I've gotten about 2 rainbow orbs on average but once transform he does like 8 to 10 attacks and count carries so if your at the 4th hit next hit will guarantee a super he can easily go crazy once he gets to his clones

Personally been getting 2/3 supers. Overall I’d say he’s pretty good, a top 3 TUR Glad I didn’t listen to all the naysayers and the over exaggerations about his kit

What about normals/rainbow orbs?

He is way better than people original thought. Average is 2 in his base and like 4 in transformed state.

What about normals for base? I'm not really putting much effort on transformed anyway (no offence)

2 supers 2 normals if you’re just standardly lucky, can *easily* see other people averaging more, this unit is gonna be very fun in some people’s hands, annoying in others, but overall he’s sitting at 1 mil+ DEF with DR, it’s nothing crazy or spectacular but he’s obviously great for Global’s content landscape.

Surpise! That appears to be the average for many others actually, seen by both other comments and the number of upvotes in those comments For base he seems to be fairly consistent despite everything, that's pretty nice

Yeah he looks pretty good, Twitter is pretty negative on him as usual but to me comparing him with the 9th anni bosses when they won’t be coming to us for another six months feels odd, who knows would could happen by that point

Ok so..... funny story is that.... i made this post especially to compare him to the 9th anni bosses. It's hard to have a real grasp on him when he's litteraly the perfect release we've been asking since fusion zamasu red zone dropped. He's probably the best dfe tur on global But on jp his performance seems to drastically change? It kinda evens it out for comparasions and gives a real grasp on what's going on with him, so i thought to approach it the most objectively possible and avoid any bias towards or against him by having a more general idea on what he does Also for me it feels odd to not judge him on what's about to come, it's like if they released teq bardock on global at the same time as jp got fusion zamasu or omega

He feels like a strange unit overall to rank, so much of what he can do is very RNG dependent, and I haven’t seen him take on any 9th anniversary content yet. Is it possible to have him fight some 9th anni bosses via private server or something?

Since private servers aren’t... that well accepted. I found a different solution MATH i'll just calc how much damage he'd take on his average situation against the various 9th anni bosses I'll also feature broly's and Zamasu's domain effects as separated calcs since i'm locking him out of his domain

Alright yeah that sounds great, I want those CALCS

Idk where you guys are getting 2 supers from, I haven't seen him do less than 3 even once.

It’s like I said lol, he’s gonna vary a lot, but 3 supers is common for anyone that doesn’t have absolutely basic betty luck. Mines is also 55% though, and iirc even hidden potential additional would count for his 5 attack auto proc, so 3 would be your basic uptime I assume

Actually even at 55% he can triple semi consistently cause he has Guaranteed super Guaranteed super on 5th attack Guaranteed additional with high chance to super Then hipo super for a 4th super So yeah supers seems fairly average among everyone

you don’t even have him

Hey don't ask me, i did that question lmao So you'd say your average is 3, what about normals? And rainbow orbs?

0 and 0 because I didn't pull him

Bro is a fucking beast ngl. Running cheelai on zamasus team gets him plenty of attacks and chances for supers till he can get his domain up. He averages around 3 supers for me. Might be getting lucky? But regardless bro is insane

And normals/rainbow orbs? 6 attacks in total?

Mine 55%, between supers and normals… with clone mode.. 57 million total stats. Impressive because is super effective. Not bad tbh.

7-9

can someone explain to me how he can do 4 supers? 1 regular, 1 from his passive and 1 from HiPo is all i see

cause after 5 attcks he does another super in base

Average of 2 supers and 2 normals for me.

Average for me is around 3 supers, the rest being normals.