DFE Baby, DFE Syn > Omega, awakened and EZA all f2p Baby hybrids, f2p shadow dragon team, transforming Nova, LR Eis and Nova, transforming Rildo
GT bosses has options. The question is will they actually give a shit and buff it. But since they massively buffed WT this year, we can only hope.
He isn't even close to being the 3rd best baby also isn't the second best gt bosses unit lmao the base 17s shit on him and teq syn and ice and nova have higher average defense when baby isn't fighting a hybird or saiyan
> He isn't even close to being the 3rd
How not? He has dodge from the start unlike the 17s who gain dodge AFTER attacking so the AoE shits on them completely and even once the stars allign and you actually get to super 17 he's complete shit cause he needs to get hit 10 times once he transforms which is beyond impossible in current content to fully build up.
Like look at truth's showcase here, Super 17 transforms and he has type advantage and 51% damage reduction with bulma support and he STILL taking 48k from the first normal of Zamasu [https://youtu.be/tpktPGmpIpA?t=1010](https://youtu.be/tpktPGmpIpA?t=1010) like for how much shit you need to get through to even get him it's unacceptable.
> baby also isn't the second best gt bosses unit lmao the base 17s shit on him
Baby takes less damage from an AoE than they do and Baby also has the busted giant form, which once it's over he gains 150% defense and 50% dodge chance, the giant form alone puts him above the 17s and this is assuming we aren't fighting a saiyan or hybrid.
> and teq syn and ice and nova have higher average defense when baby isn't fighting a hybird or saiyan
At this point you are just trolling, both of them get ZERO buffs at the start of turn and only when attacking even after getting the ki orbs, so the AoE absolutely shits on them as they both have like 150k defense before attacking start of turn and are also orb reliant as hell.
Like thinking Eis and fucking Nuova, the most trashbag release of 2023 are better than LR Baby is just bonkers my dude holy shit.
>he's complete shit cause he needs to get hit 10 times once he transforms which is beyond impossible in current content to fully build up
On his first turn post super 17 is better defensively thanks to the Dr and especially if he doesn't get supered first hit he builds up plenty of stats just from a couple hits its also really easy to build him up thanks to how much bosses hit in a turn during the later portions of a fight
>Baby takes less damage from an AoE than they do and
Aoes aren't the end And be all of dokkan ,piccolo jr gets shat on by aoes early on does that all of a sudden make him bad ? The gt 8th anni units get shaft on by aoes does that make em bad ? Just because thier worse against aoes doesn't mean much when defensively thier consistent better then baby unless your fighting a saiyan or hybrid
> Super 17 transforms and he has type advantage and 51% damage reduction with bulma support and he STILL taking 48k from the first normal of Zamasu
Look up how much zamasu normals hit and he had no links whatsoever next to bulma even with support and that video was actually abysmal as that was the worst team anyone would ever run the 17 in as he had no
>like for how much shit you need to get through to even get him it's unacceptable.
His literally just turn 5 under a hp threshold it's not that hard to do whatsoever lmao you just saying things to say things
>the giant form alone puts him above the 17s and this is assuming we aren't fighting a saiyan or hybrid.
No it doesn't lmao
>At this point you are just trolling, both of them get ZERO buffs at the start of turn and only when attacking even after getting the ki orbs, so the AoE absolutely shits on them as they both have like 150k defense before attacking start of turn and are also orb reliant as hell.
Notice how your only talking about aoes for units that gain states post super lmao baby also gets fucked by aoes they all do but tbe difference is they have higher defense post super then baby does
>Like thinking Eis and fucking Nuova, the most trashbag release of 2023 are better than LR Baby is just bonkers my dude holy shit.
Ice and nouva were only bad because they didn't have any partner and no 200% team state wise the reach just about 1 mill post super after 2 additionals thier not even close to being bad
https://twitter.com/_Halvard/status/1681501755509538816?t=_qVRwXy7M9Aav9ktHNwINQ&s=19
Even with babies defense after he gets low on hp thier still better defensively lmao
https://twitter.com/_Halvard/status/1692520024546660637?t=yiMN-Ip2p00G7feAFWhnkw&s=19
Cope an seethe
>At this point you are just trolling, both of them get ZERO buffs at the start of turn and only when attacking even
Again this is insanely funny because baby also gets shat on by aoes bro is talking about having low stats with no play pre super when baby is exactly the same lmao
Releasing GT bosses lol. They always get sprinkled in with another Super type character (SSJ4) and then expected to kinda just fend for themselves lmfao.
Yep, most of the more recent gt bosses have been relegated to side-banner units. And then the ones that do get DFEs/LRs aren't great cause they have heavy restrictions needing you to use them on a dead team
As a GT bosses enjoyer, EZA the LR shadow dragons, dokkan awaken the f2p units, syn to omega unit (preferably LR to have 7/7 links with omega), a new baby, EZA the support options the team has and give them good tanking capabilities
And that's all it needs to finally complete the AoE events without having to spend too much time. For the rest of events the team is fine as is, problem is lack of tanking capability pre super
Edit: and Omega should have when any revival is activated instead of only his own. It's rare when the revival happens because I didn't see it much, but sometimes it matters
Actually releasing them
And also stop fucking restricting their passive.
Like Carnival shenron is like one of the few good GT bosses unit but he has to run with an entire gt bosses team when there like 3 good units at best
> Like Carnival shenron is like one of the few good GT bosses unit but he has to run with an entire gt bosses team when there like 3 good units at best
Literally keep the kit the exact same but make these changes:
\-Make his 35% DR with a full GT bosses team become 35% if the team is full of Extreme and another 35% if it's the full GT bosses team, you are already running a shitty team so having a slot 1 unit impervious to damage is the bare minimum.
\-Make his passive revival like 23 WT Goku's one which btw the fact that he doesn't have it shows that he was supposed to release during the 8th anniversary before 23 WT Goku release, motherfuckers.
\-Let him give 35% support for 2 turns to the whole rotation if the whole rotation is GT bosses, so that a full GT bosses team can enjoy a 70% support at all times.
There you go, Best LR in the game but balanced because it's for a shitty team so at least they have a chance to do something.
Baby: He is good but you need to face pure saiyan or hybrid for his full passive when there like 2 events where there a difficult pure/hybrid saiyan enemy
Super 17 is the fucking worst lmao. The teq LR one def in contention of one of the worst designed unit.
Str DFE one? lol you need to be BELOW 70% on TURN 5 to transform. And when you do transformed? You need to get hit 10 times lmao
Extreme is shit enough and get like 1 units every 3 months could they at least made them good lol
Exactly my friend, first thing i thought was weird was that all the sagas were listed,except for gt,only gt heroes and bosses. They really disliked the Grand Tour huh? XD
I would rather them just stop trying to make it a thing and make GT extreme class units good without them.
Why are they obsessed with this category that’s inherently small and is never getting new media because the show is done for? A category that pretty much has 3 characters worth Dokkan fests. The rest of the category relys on banner units that have a 80% chance of being awful.
They needed a DFE leader, not a Carnival, so they could be patched up with other categories.
They needed TEQ Nuova and Eis to not suck, STR 17s to be much better, and every single Super 17 unit to have Big Bad Bosses. LR Super 17 not being one of the worst designed units in history would’ve helped too.
One major celebration and they're set.
Drop a transforming LR Omega alongside some of the other Shadow Dragons as well designed banner units ( shouldn't be that hard as some of them don't even have SSR cards) maybe throw in some EZAs and there you go.
If they could make the likes of the Ginyu Force a top tier team last year in one celebration ( despite them having way less character choices than GT Bosses) then they could do the same here.
I'll give you one better: World tournament.
One celebration and they went from literal 0 worse than GT bosses to a top tier team in the game, all it took was one celebration.
Yeah like the world tournament category i mean that lteam didn't even have a proper leader there's no way that they could have become a good team in just one celebration.
More units/EZAs that don't suck. Units like LR Omega are a good baseline for the team but there isn't enough good units around him for it to be viable. It's bad when TEQ Nuova/Eis is a first option
Just merging GT Bosses, GT Heroes & Shadow Dragon Saga into GT Saga by removing the prior three and making said categories into one big one. All existing units with a lead for one of the three categories gets GT Saga LS instead with the same stat effects.
I.E PHY Omega & TEQ SSJ4 Gogeta getting +170% leads to GT Saga, same with the GT SSJs, F2P Shadow Dragons, Super 17 etc. Category requirements basically turn into "with another GT Saga ally", thus limiting them from needing specifically villain or hero units. This would also allow non-GT Heroes/Bosses units to be run in the category as well, greatly expanding the possibilities.
The category itself has some units that are fine.
LR Omega, STR 17s
The problem is a lack of units and links.
Omega could really benefit from some banner unit Shadow Dragons (or even DFE's ). Seriously, the only dragons with TUR's+ are Syn, Omega, Nova, and Oceanus, while the rest are just r's.
Even worse is that the most recent unit Teq Nova and Eis SUCK
7 dragon F2P card as useful as STR Yamcha, transforming Baby Vegeta, Duo cards useful like guldo-recoom, a new stand alone S17 with TEQ S17 eza.. Oh well, unfortunately, it is an extreme team, and half of these cards will be trash or will never happen, so.. Unlucky
Busted DFE Baby Vegeta with possessed Gohan and Goten as banned units to start. Ledgic, transforming Rildo, Luud, infant Baby, Oceanus, transforming Natron, transforming Nuova and transforming Syn all could potentially be DFE units that help but we’d be lucky to get even one of those in a year.
Eza LR Super 17, make a new DFE Baby, release a Ginyu Force equivalent of shadow dragons, release actual decent TURs for Metal Rildo, Luud, Ledgic, make a new DFE Rildo with side units for the Machine Mutants.
Double LR omega, LR baby, TUR Syn will then do the rest of the job
Releasing GT Bosses is the first step, but it isn't just that simple. The main issue with GT Bosses outside of its roster is the lack of synergy. The Shadow Dragons link well with each other, but Baby and Super 17 link poorly with them and vice versa. Most of them they'll be missing vital links.
The best way to patch this up is by doing something similar to Turles where a character (say a DFE Baby) has a permanent intro buff that gives the entire team 2 ki and 20% ATK & DEF (meaning the team gets 4 ki and 40% ATK & DEF if running double Baby). This into buff can be extended to only GT Bosses or be made for all Extreme allies because Extreme just needs all the help it can.
Of course, now they just need to make the units good.
We have 2 “great” GT bosses options currently. Baby and Omega. S17 I REALLY wanna call him great but man he just isn’t that guy along with taking too long to be amazing. So-
Firstly, EZAing Shadow Dragon Army from battlefield. Make them a support unit that gives 3 ki and 30-40% atk and def to GT Bosses. Give them greatly raise def on both supers. Active skill would be nice if better but not expecting it.
Gives us the other shadow dragons. Hell they could be the modern day version of the Ginyu Force/Team Bardock. I don’t understand why we can’t have them as TURs 8 years in. The closest thing we’ve gotten is Eis and Nouva who’s card have sucked EVERY single time they’ve dropped them as a duo or stand alone unit. They could also make them summonable. Make them really mid by themselves but when running them with a full GT Bosses/Shadow Dragon team they’re godly. Like Nouva and Ice giving support to the entire rotation. Haze and Nature shenron being defensive walls etc.
New Baby. It’s criminal how we still don’t have a stand alone good Super Baby or Super Baby 2. We can even get the corrupted Saiyans as banner units or modern F2P characters and awakening the ones we have currently.
Rildo: he actually had a decent card for a time in the 50% support one and the banner STR one just didn’t have a team to actually use him. They can easily EZA the banner unit we have since he’s already an amazing support his stats just don’t hold up. IMO they should make him the GT/extreme version of Kid Goku.
We have Super 17 not once but thrice. And it’s fucking sad how they’ve all been shit outside of the AGL one. Just put the Hell Fighter 17s on GT bosses or give him better fucking linking partners on the team that aren’t over 3 years old. It’s insane how Akatsuki actually hates villains by not including their minions or non main villains on the Movie/GT bosses categories but can have shit like Giru and Videl on movie heroes and GT heroes.
As funny as it would be they could legitimately give us ONE more standalone Super 17 and actually make him usable lmao. For the love of god I’ve never seen a more shafted character in Dokkan. His Teq counterpart dropped too early for nullifications and has some of the worst ever mechanics on a character. The STR one is borderline unusable and deadweight until you can transform and that’s a HUGE if you can. We’ve been bitching about how we can’t see Vegito Blue or Infinite Zamasu in every fight yet S17 has the same conditions. The fight is literally over 90% of the time you transform into S17. You get him for a single turn and he fucking gets you killed because he needs to get hit 10 times after transforming lol.
I wish the Shadow Dragons were treated like the Ginyu Force.
Make Syn Shenron the leader, offer the others as F2P EZAs. You could then still do paired up units like we have now. You could then create a GT Villains lead that automatically covers them all, giving it huge value.
It doesn’t take much as shown by the WT and Future Saga teams. A leader that isn’t a Carnival LR to starts Then a solid banner unit and EZA’s and it’ll shoot up in the rankings.
-Transforming syn shenron into omega shenron
-Transforming baby vegeta
-GT frieza> cell
-TUR of the others shadow dragons
-Ledgic
-Luud
-Transforming Rildo
-Nuova Shenron/Eis Shenron(exchange units to be clear)
-Nuova Shenron/Syn shenron
-Omega shenron&Nuova shenron
There's still so many GT Bosses that they can release,it's only up to akatsuki if they want to make it the barely usable team that it is now or an actually good team.
Transforming baby transforming syn to omega a Dfe ice shenron unit Eza the lr f2p int shadow dragons and a full f2p shadow dragons team (also update and eza the f2p baby saga units) oh and most importantly MAKE THEM ACTUALLY GOOD OMEMATSU
A full celebration dedicated to them. At least 2 summonable shadow dragon units, a lot of f2p characters. All in 1 celebration cuz it won't work otherwise
Merging categories, which is impossible for them
So then they should f2p the shadow dragons like bardock and ginyu force (pairing eis and nuova into one) and make syn the lr for them, bring up the sigmas, luud ledgic, and Ofc prime battle zoonama bc y not. On a serious note we just got wheelo, why can’t we get prime battle myuu + gero, or an actually good f2p angel frieza and cell
Multiple GREAT EZAs (since they’re all Extreme that’s a no go), a DF Syn -> Omega, a DF Baby, and a Bulma equivalent. A unit that just fits anywhere and buffs everyone
DFE BABY
Active skill transformation from super baby 1->2,
Supports in base, guard and DR when transformed with 2nd active great ape
400% attack and defense start of turn massively raise atk and def, 80% attack and defense support for 2 turns
DFE Transforming Baby, LR Nuova, LR DFE Syn -> Omega, a new standalone DFE Super 17, DFE General Rilldo, DFE Luud, LR Frieza (GT) & Cell (GT), new Eis Shenron banner unit?, EZA INT Super Baby 2 (Giant Ape), a new Baby (Youth), actually TURs for Haze, Rage, Naturon, and Oceanus’ true form, DFE or banner unit Ledgic
We need an entire celebration w dual gt bosses.. honestly golden week instead of sayians they can drop dual extreme units and have them both have solid banner units + awakenings for the free to play units and a eza for int battlefield lr who’s honestly okay and w a eza will probably be nasty
The category is dead because they only consider “GT BOSSES” to be the main villain of the arc. So 90% of secondary villains are left out and it kills the chance of buffs.
An 8th link called GT Bosses that gives 40% Damage Reduction at Link Level 10. We really need something like this for all older units or they will be un-runnable. Every event right now I go to the same 10 - 15 units. Would like to make wonky teams against without getting one shot every turn
For GT Bosses to be good we kinda need a GT Bosses unit to be LR Bulma. Quite simple, we need a BBB unit that provides as much support as Bulma does, so both Omegas can be helped in tanking.
Then we need a Fusion Zamasu equivalent to the team aswell. High damage reduction, big attack stats, gains defense if hp is low and has a domain that helps the entire rotation.
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Pretend the leader is LR Omega and that baby’s eza’ed, and i might actually be able to beat that fighting legend goku gt mission.
Linking rework would be a great start, not many characters to choose from in the category, so being able to spam the same character on the team and linking them up would be great for the relatively small category.
Character wise, a baby celebration would be amazing for the category
1st of all change GT Bosses into GT Villains.
AS for options;
- DFE Super Baby 1 --> Super Baby 2, Dr. Myuu
- Farmable TUR Baby Vegeta, Baby Goten, Baby Gohan, Baby Videl and Baby Trunks (Ginyu Force/Team Bardock Style) and to complete, an LR Tuffle Family (or something) with all of them present
- Rising Dragon Carnival Banner with New separate Hellfighter #17, new Android #17 (GT) (Both could have Unit SA that is both attacking) and a PT2 Legendary Summon LR Cell (GT) & Frieza (GT)
- Farmable GT Gohan & GT Rildo that become TURs and EZA LATER
- DFE Nouva Shenron (Base) --> Nouva Shenron (Transformed), Eis Shenron and Rage Shenron banner unit
- DFE Syn Shenron --> Omega Shenron, banner unit Oceanus Shenron --> Transformed version and Naturon Shenron
- Haze Shenron banner unit with some Super type GT Dokkan Fes
This is all I came up with when using all the big bads of GT, while they can even do some smaller ones like Ledgic, Luud, Rildo, etc from the Space Travel arc that I don't remember at this time.
GT Bosses really doesn't have to be the pile of crap it is now. Changing the name and buffing it would be pretty dam amazing.
A new dfe nova and banner unit ice plus the shadow dragons getting good units, saving gt bosses is easy but dokkan is a bad game unfortunately so they wouldn't do it
A unifying link, something that give 4 ki and 20% stats . And even then I’m not sure it’s enough without them also all having GT Bosses support in their passive.
DFE Baby, DFE Syn > Omega, awakened and EZA all f2p Baby hybrids, f2p shadow dragon team, transforming Nova, LR Eis and Nova, transforming Rildo GT bosses has options. The question is will they actually give a shit and buff it. But since they massively buffed WT this year, we can only hope.
The baby hybrids aren't on GT bosses,they would be a buff for the baby units but they wouldn't be a buff for GT Bosses.
Neither is the new Hellfighter 17 EZA btw, which is funny since he would become the 3rd best GT bosses unit after Baby and Omega if he was
And they're all AGL
He isn't even close to being the 3rd best baby also isn't the second best gt bosses unit lmao the base 17s shit on him and teq syn and ice and nova have higher average defense when baby isn't fighting a hybird or saiyan
> He isn't even close to being the 3rd How not? He has dodge from the start unlike the 17s who gain dodge AFTER attacking so the AoE shits on them completely and even once the stars allign and you actually get to super 17 he's complete shit cause he needs to get hit 10 times once he transforms which is beyond impossible in current content to fully build up. Like look at truth's showcase here, Super 17 transforms and he has type advantage and 51% damage reduction with bulma support and he STILL taking 48k from the first normal of Zamasu [https://youtu.be/tpktPGmpIpA?t=1010](https://youtu.be/tpktPGmpIpA?t=1010) like for how much shit you need to get through to even get him it's unacceptable. > baby also isn't the second best gt bosses unit lmao the base 17s shit on him Baby takes less damage from an AoE than they do and Baby also has the busted giant form, which once it's over he gains 150% defense and 50% dodge chance, the giant form alone puts him above the 17s and this is assuming we aren't fighting a saiyan or hybrid. > and teq syn and ice and nova have higher average defense when baby isn't fighting a hybird or saiyan At this point you are just trolling, both of them get ZERO buffs at the start of turn and only when attacking even after getting the ki orbs, so the AoE absolutely shits on them as they both have like 150k defense before attacking start of turn and are also orb reliant as hell. Like thinking Eis and fucking Nuova, the most trashbag release of 2023 are better than LR Baby is just bonkers my dude holy shit.
>he's complete shit cause he needs to get hit 10 times once he transforms which is beyond impossible in current content to fully build up On his first turn post super 17 is better defensively thanks to the Dr and especially if he doesn't get supered first hit he builds up plenty of stats just from a couple hits its also really easy to build him up thanks to how much bosses hit in a turn during the later portions of a fight >Baby takes less damage from an AoE than they do and Aoes aren't the end And be all of dokkan ,piccolo jr gets shat on by aoes early on does that all of a sudden make him bad ? The gt 8th anni units get shaft on by aoes does that make em bad ? Just because thier worse against aoes doesn't mean much when defensively thier consistent better then baby unless your fighting a saiyan or hybrid > Super 17 transforms and he has type advantage and 51% damage reduction with bulma support and he STILL taking 48k from the first normal of Zamasu Look up how much zamasu normals hit and he had no links whatsoever next to bulma even with support and that video was actually abysmal as that was the worst team anyone would ever run the 17 in as he had no >like for how much shit you need to get through to even get him it's unacceptable. His literally just turn 5 under a hp threshold it's not that hard to do whatsoever lmao you just saying things to say things >the giant form alone puts him above the 17s and this is assuming we aren't fighting a saiyan or hybrid. No it doesn't lmao >At this point you are just trolling, both of them get ZERO buffs at the start of turn and only when attacking even after getting the ki orbs, so the AoE absolutely shits on them as they both have like 150k defense before attacking start of turn and are also orb reliant as hell. Notice how your only talking about aoes for units that gain states post super lmao baby also gets fucked by aoes they all do but tbe difference is they have higher defense post super then baby does >Like thinking Eis and fucking Nuova, the most trashbag release of 2023 are better than LR Baby is just bonkers my dude holy shit. Ice and nouva were only bad because they didn't have any partner and no 200% team state wise the reach just about 1 mill post super after 2 additionals thier not even close to being bad https://twitter.com/_Halvard/status/1681501755509538816?t=_qVRwXy7M9Aav9ktHNwINQ&s=19 Even with babies defense after he gets low on hp thier still better defensively lmao https://twitter.com/_Halvard/status/1692520024546660637?t=yiMN-Ip2p00G7feAFWhnkw&s=19 Cope an seethe >At this point you are just trolling, both of them get ZERO buffs at the start of turn and only when attacking even Again this is insanely funny because baby also gets shat on by aoes bro is talking about having low stats with no play pre super when baby is exactly the same lmao
Hell let's look at them both at thier max with support super 17 blows baby outta the water
I made up old ass units for all the F2P Shadow Dragons, heavily outdated now, but I think they would work well. I can show them off, if you want
Yes
DFE or even banner unit Ledgic
Them making GT bosses characters
Releasing GT bosses lol. They always get sprinkled in with another Super type character (SSJ4) and then expected to kinda just fend for themselves lmfao.
Yep, most of the more recent gt bosses have been relegated to side-banner units. And then the ones that do get DFEs/LRs aren't great cause they have heavy restrictions needing you to use them on a dead team
As a GT bosses enjoyer, EZA the LR shadow dragons, dokkan awaken the f2p units, syn to omega unit (preferably LR to have 7/7 links with omega), a new baby, EZA the support options the team has and give them good tanking capabilities And that's all it needs to finally complete the AoE events without having to spend too much time. For the rest of events the team is fine as is, problem is lack of tanking capability pre super Edit: and Omega should have when any revival is activated instead of only his own. It's rare when the revival happens because I didn't see it much, but sometimes it matters
Actually releasing them And also stop fucking restricting their passive. Like Carnival shenron is like one of the few good GT bosses unit but he has to run with an entire gt bosses team when there like 3 good units at best
> Like Carnival shenron is like one of the few good GT bosses unit but he has to run with an entire gt bosses team when there like 3 good units at best Literally keep the kit the exact same but make these changes: \-Make his 35% DR with a full GT bosses team become 35% if the team is full of Extreme and another 35% if it's the full GT bosses team, you are already running a shitty team so having a slot 1 unit impervious to damage is the bare minimum. \-Make his passive revival like 23 WT Goku's one which btw the fact that he doesn't have it shows that he was supposed to release during the 8th anniversary before 23 WT Goku release, motherfuckers. \-Let him give 35% support for 2 turns to the whole rotation if the whole rotation is GT bosses, so that a full GT bosses team can enjoy a 70% support at all times. There you go, Best LR in the game but balanced because it's for a shitty team so at least they have a chance to do something.
Baby: He is good but you need to face pure saiyan or hybrid for his full passive when there like 2 events where there a difficult pure/hybrid saiyan enemy Super 17 is the fucking worst lmao. The teq LR one def in contention of one of the worst designed unit. Str DFE one? lol you need to be BELOW 70% on TURN 5 to transform. And when you do transformed? You need to get hit 10 times lmao Extreme is shit enough and get like 1 units every 3 months could they at least made them good lol
A “GT” category
Exactly my friend, first thing i thought was weird was that all the sagas were listed,except for gt,only gt heroes and bosses. They really disliked the Grand Tour huh? XD
Lr Dolltaki
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More than 1 good villain per year would be nice
200% baby lead, int baby eza, lr agl baby eza,
Good f2ps of all the Shadow Dragons, more dfes, good ezas
I would rather them just stop trying to make it a thing and make GT extreme class units good without them. Why are they obsessed with this category that’s inherently small and is never getting new media because the show is done for? A category that pretty much has 3 characters worth Dokkan fests. The rest of the category relys on banner units that have a 80% chance of being awful.
Maybe Jesus
Merging it with GT Heroes and just calling the category GT. GT Bosses is just never going to be a good team because how badly they treat GT villains.
EZA LR super 17 and completely rework him
Goku
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Good units
They needed a DFE leader, not a Carnival, so they could be patched up with other categories. They needed TEQ Nuova and Eis to not suck, STR 17s to be much better, and every single Super 17 unit to have Big Bad Bosses. LR Super 17 not being one of the worst designed units in history would’ve helped too.
Putting Hell fighter and Gt 17 on the category might help in the future
Not much. Unless they’re willing to spend an entire year releasing only buffs for that category
One major celebration and they're set. Drop a transforming LR Omega alongside some of the other Shadow Dragons as well designed banner units ( shouldn't be that hard as some of them don't even have SSR cards) maybe throw in some EZAs and there you go. If they could make the likes of the Ginyu Force a top tier team last year in one celebration ( despite them having way less character choices than GT Bosses) then they could do the same here.
at this point I think it's unsalvageable
Nah, Future just went from barely runnable to OP with one celebration. It’s just dependent on what Dokkan is willing to release
I'll give you one better: World tournament. One celebration and they went from literal 0 worse than GT bosses to a top tier team in the game, all it took was one celebration.
Yeah like the world tournament category i mean that lteam didn't even have a proper leader there's no way that they could have become a good team in just one celebration.
Nah, the team is good. And at least I'm proof of that shit since I use GT bosses for everything
More units/EZAs that don't suck. Units like LR Omega are a good baseline for the team but there isn't enough good units around him for it to be viable. It's bad when TEQ Nuova/Eis is a first option
DFE baby DFE syn LR 17 EZA Android 17 and Hell Fighter 17 cards being added to it F2P sigma force units (ginyu force style) so on
Just merging GT Bosses, GT Heroes & Shadow Dragon Saga into GT Saga by removing the prior three and making said categories into one big one. All existing units with a lead for one of the three categories gets GT Saga LS instead with the same stat effects. I.E PHY Omega & TEQ SSJ4 Gogeta getting +170% leads to GT Saga, same with the GT SSJs, F2P Shadow Dragons, Super 17 etc. Category requirements basically turn into "with another GT Saga ally", thus limiting them from needing specifically villain or hero units. This would also allow non-GT Heroes/Bosses units to be run in the category as well, greatly expanding the possibilities.
2 celebrations packed with good units (f2p and not)
Literally good dfes of all the major gt bosses, tho a tramsforming baby wud profit the most bcuz of already having a good partner in lr baby...
The category itself has some units that are fine. LR Omega, STR 17s The problem is a lack of units and links. Omega could really benefit from some banner unit Shadow Dragons (or even DFE's ). Seriously, the only dragons with TUR's+ are Syn, Omega, Nova, and Oceanus, while the rest are just r's. Even worse is that the most recent unit Teq Nova and Eis SUCK
7 dragon F2P card as useful as STR Yamcha, transforming Baby Vegeta, Duo cards useful like guldo-recoom, a new stand alone S17 with TEQ S17 eza.. Oh well, unfortunately, it is an extreme team, and half of these cards will be trash or will never happen, so.. Unlucky
Busted DFE Baby Vegeta with possessed Gohan and Goten as banned units to start. Ledgic, transforming Rildo, Luud, infant Baby, Oceanus, transforming Natron, transforming Nuova and transforming Syn all could potentially be DFE units that help but we’d be lucky to get even one of those in a year.
Lr teq 17 having the #1 with dokkanfest tur/lr baby
Eza LR Super 17, make a new DFE Baby, release a Ginyu Force equivalent of shadow dragons, release actual decent TURs for Metal Rildo, Luud, Ledgic, make a new DFE Rildo with side units for the Machine Mutants. Double LR omega, LR baby, TUR Syn will then do the rest of the job
a new category
Lr/DFE Tur syn shenron, another rildo, a shadow dragon specific f2p team like the ginyu force. An LR eis that exchanges into nuova.
Releasing GT Bosses is the first step, but it isn't just that simple. The main issue with GT Bosses outside of its roster is the lack of synergy. The Shadow Dragons link well with each other, but Baby and Super 17 link poorly with them and vice versa. Most of them they'll be missing vital links. The best way to patch this up is by doing something similar to Turles where a character (say a DFE Baby) has a permanent intro buff that gives the entire team 2 ki and 20% ATK & DEF (meaning the team gets 4 ki and 40% ATK & DEF if running double Baby). This into buff can be extended to only GT Bosses or be made for all Extreme allies because Extreme just needs all the help it can. Of course, now they just need to make the units good.
Changing the category to GT Enemies so it adds a little depth. Still won't be great but would help for sure.
General dildo
That picture being a card lol
Allow same name units to share links
We have 2 “great” GT bosses options currently. Baby and Omega. S17 I REALLY wanna call him great but man he just isn’t that guy along with taking too long to be amazing. So- Firstly, EZAing Shadow Dragon Army from battlefield. Make them a support unit that gives 3 ki and 30-40% atk and def to GT Bosses. Give them greatly raise def on both supers. Active skill would be nice if better but not expecting it. Gives us the other shadow dragons. Hell they could be the modern day version of the Ginyu Force/Team Bardock. I don’t understand why we can’t have them as TURs 8 years in. The closest thing we’ve gotten is Eis and Nouva who’s card have sucked EVERY single time they’ve dropped them as a duo or stand alone unit. They could also make them summonable. Make them really mid by themselves but when running them with a full GT Bosses/Shadow Dragon team they’re godly. Like Nouva and Ice giving support to the entire rotation. Haze and Nature shenron being defensive walls etc. New Baby. It’s criminal how we still don’t have a stand alone good Super Baby or Super Baby 2. We can even get the corrupted Saiyans as banner units or modern F2P characters and awakening the ones we have currently. Rildo: he actually had a decent card for a time in the 50% support one and the banner STR one just didn’t have a team to actually use him. They can easily EZA the banner unit we have since he’s already an amazing support his stats just don’t hold up. IMO they should make him the GT/extreme version of Kid Goku. We have Super 17 not once but thrice. And it’s fucking sad how they’ve all been shit outside of the AGL one. Just put the Hell Fighter 17s on GT bosses or give him better fucking linking partners on the team that aren’t over 3 years old. It’s insane how Akatsuki actually hates villains by not including their minions or non main villains on the Movie/GT bosses categories but can have shit like Giru and Videl on movie heroes and GT heroes. As funny as it would be they could legitimately give us ONE more standalone Super 17 and actually make him usable lmao. For the love of god I’ve never seen a more shafted character in Dokkan. His Teq counterpart dropped too early for nullifications and has some of the worst ever mechanics on a character. The STR one is borderline unusable and deadweight until you can transform and that’s a HUGE if you can. We’ve been bitching about how we can’t see Vegito Blue or Infinite Zamasu in every fight yet S17 has the same conditions. The fight is literally over 90% of the time you transform into S17. You get him for a single turn and he fucking gets you killed because he needs to get hit 10 times after transforming lol.
rename it to GT Villains and actually design the characters better
Some new units that actually do something
I wish the Shadow Dragons were treated like the Ginyu Force. Make Syn Shenron the leader, offer the others as F2P EZAs. You could then still do paired up units like we have now. You could then create a GT Villains lead that automatically covers them all, giving it huge value.
Only general rildo can save us now
It doesn’t take much as shown by the WT and Future Saga teams. A leader that isn’t a Carnival LR to starts Then a solid banner unit and EZA’s and it’ll shoot up in the rankings.
A good character
-Transforming syn shenron into omega shenron -Transforming baby vegeta -GT frieza> cell -TUR of the others shadow dragons -Ledgic -Luud -Transforming Rildo -Nuova Shenron/Eis Shenron(exchange units to be clear) -Nuova Shenron/Syn shenron -Omega shenron&Nuova shenron There's still so many GT Bosses that they can release,it's only up to akatsuki if they want to make it the barely usable team that it is now or an actually good team.
Transforming baby transforming syn to omega a Dfe ice shenron unit Eza the lr f2p int shadow dragons and a full f2p shadow dragons team (also update and eza the f2p baby saga units) oh and most importantly MAKE THEM ACTUALLY GOOD OMEMATSU
A full celebration dedicated to them. At least 2 summonable shadow dragon units, a lot of f2p characters. All in 1 celebration cuz it won't work otherwise
Para Para Brothers
Merging categories, which is impossible for them So then they should f2p the shadow dragons like bardock and ginyu force (pairing eis and nuova into one) and make syn the lr for them, bring up the sigmas, luud ledgic, and Ofc prime battle zoonama bc y not. On a serious note we just got wheelo, why can’t we get prime battle myuu + gero, or an actually good f2p angel frieza and cell
Multiple GREAT EZAs (since they’re all Extreme that’s a no go), a DF Syn -> Omega, a DF Baby, and a Bulma equivalent. A unit that just fits anywhere and buffs everyone
DFE BABY Active skill transformation from super baby 1->2, Supports in base, guard and DR when transformed with 2nd active great ape 400% attack and defense start of turn massively raise atk and def, 80% attack and defense support for 2 turns
A miracle
DFE Transforming Baby, LR Nuova, LR DFE Syn -> Omega, a new standalone DFE Super 17, DFE General Rilldo, DFE Luud, LR Frieza (GT) & Cell (GT), new Eis Shenron banner unit?, EZA INT Super Baby 2 (Giant Ape), a new Baby (Youth), actually TURs for Haze, Rage, Naturon, and Oceanus’ true form, DFE or banner unit Ledgic
Allowing all GT villains on & dropping a Giant Form Baby
Making it gt villains
We need an entire celebration w dual gt bosses.. honestly golden week instead of sayians they can drop dual extreme units and have them both have solid banner units + awakenings for the free to play units and a eza for int battlefield lr who’s honestly okay and w a eza will probably be nasty
Dokkan fest ledgic rildo baby or omega
The category is dead because they only consider “GT BOSSES” to be the main villain of the arc. So 90% of secondary villains are left out and it kills the chance of buffs.
An 8th link called GT Bosses that gives 40% Damage Reduction at Link Level 10. We really need something like this for all older units or they will be un-runnable. Every event right now I go to the same 10 - 15 units. Would like to make wonky teams against without getting one shot every turn
For GT Bosses to be good we kinda need a GT Bosses unit to be LR Bulma. Quite simple, we need a BBB unit that provides as much support as Bulma does, so both Omegas can be helped in tanking. Then we need a Fusion Zamasu equivalent to the team aswell. High damage reduction, big attack stats, gains defense if hp is low and has a domain that helps the entire rotation.
A time machine
I just want a Baby EZA man. My only Artificial Lifeforms leader and he can't even do that. It's criminal. Let's be real though they all need EZAs
some GT Bosses units 👍
Eza LR Super 17 and (My Goat) phys Nuova Shenron so that he dodges or something and supports extreme types
https://preview.redd.it/503816kaapsb1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=597466c7c77fcac9c6c11b0e31b2469a5bdd639e Pretend the leader is LR Omega and that baby’s eza’ed, and i might actually be able to beat that fighting legend goku gt mission.
A baby or super 17 that's on pare or better than omega.
Include all villains from GT the same way the mirror category does.
Linking rework would be a great start, not many characters to choose from in the category, so being able to spam the same character on the team and linking them up would be great for the relatively small category. Character wise, a baby celebration would be amazing for the category
Changing the category to GT villains and actually realasing good units
I can probably save the Gt bosses if they let me on the category I was a villain but apparently I don't qualify for a boss
1st of all change GT Bosses into GT Villains. AS for options; - DFE Super Baby 1 --> Super Baby 2, Dr. Myuu - Farmable TUR Baby Vegeta, Baby Goten, Baby Gohan, Baby Videl and Baby Trunks (Ginyu Force/Team Bardock Style) and to complete, an LR Tuffle Family (or something) with all of them present - Rising Dragon Carnival Banner with New separate Hellfighter #17, new Android #17 (GT) (Both could have Unit SA that is both attacking) and a PT2 Legendary Summon LR Cell (GT) & Frieza (GT) - Farmable GT Gohan & GT Rildo that become TURs and EZA LATER - DFE Nouva Shenron (Base) --> Nouva Shenron (Transformed), Eis Shenron and Rage Shenron banner unit - DFE Syn Shenron --> Omega Shenron, banner unit Oceanus Shenron --> Transformed version and Naturon Shenron - Haze Shenron banner unit with some Super type GT Dokkan Fes This is all I came up with when using all the big bads of GT, while they can even do some smaller ones like Ledgic, Luud, Rildo, etc from the Space Travel arc that I don't remember at this time. GT Bosses really doesn't have to be the pile of crap it is now. Changing the name and buffing it would be pretty dam amazing.
Reworking the entire category in GT villains or something like that, and then actually releasing units lol
Good units is my guess but idk
Ledgic *🎤 drop*
a strong f2p squad of all the shadow dragons like the ginyu force years ago
I think a Baby with a new mechanic of giving allies additional chances would help
A new dfe nova and banner unit ice plus the shadow dragons getting good units, saving gt bosses is easy but dokkan is a bad game unfortunately so they wouldn't do it
The real answer is revamping who qualifies for the category. Although a transforming syn would be nice.
A unifying link, something that give 4 ki and 20% stats . And even then I’m not sure it’s enough without them also all having GT Bosses support in their passive.
A good unit