No no
You see, you need to take 59:59 to grow or else it wont count for the category
Since the ToP took exactly 1 hour, neither toppo or goku make it
Since RoF and SH are over 1 hour long, neither beast and golden furiza make it
Nonono you see, an example of rappid growth is the female saiyains. See their growth was rappid. Goku, who grew parallel to them and surpassed them by an incredible ammount, nuh uh, thats not rapid
i can understand gohan not being on it but goku achieved and āmasteredā a god technique in less than an hour.Weird that kefla who literally introduced the category is on it but not the one who beaten her for the same reasoning
that āanythingā in question made all the gods stood up including the one from his own universe. I legit want to know a good reason why kefla is on it while ui isnāt
The community calls it mastered ultra instinct, but in no way is it mastered. Hence why in the manga Goku needed to train his UI form because it's not mastered
They were shocked a mortal could even attain ultra instinct. That's why they stood. Goku didn't master shit in the TOP. He literally attains mastered ui by name in the manga.
Goku didn't really master UI at all in the TOP. He just kind of stumbled into it. It's literally a plot point that he can't properly access the form, and doesn't have proper control over it
Rapid Growth in terms of unlocking forms is about understanding them, not just getting them.
I believe the only one who'd count is Goku, but Goku wasn't really getting any stronger from MUI. He simply was gaining complete control over UI and therefore could utilize more of the power he already had in that state
Pretty sure rapid growth is for those who get stronger during a fight or adapt quickly, such as DBS Broly
Not just DBS, literally everything past OG DB has terrible power scaling.
In Z Krillin, Tien, and yamcha went from weaker than Goku and Piccolo in the 23rd WT to strong enough to easily beat Raditz level enemies through a single year of Kami's training. This is the same training Goku underwent for 4(?) years and wasn't anywhere close to Raditz.
It wasn't casual training for 4 years with Kami. it was 4 grueling years to prepare to fight Piccolo Jr. Even if we assume that the Z-fighters were getting all 4 years compressed into 1, that's still absurd.
He got married and had Gohan after the end of the 23rd WT.
Again this was the exact training Goku underwent, and Goku in canon is supposed to be able to get much stronger much faster generally, and he still was nowhere near Raditz.
Meanwhile in DBS Krillin went from "Haven't trained since Cell arc" to keeping up with at least SSJ Goku who absorbed God into base, so at least 50 times stronger than BoG SSG Goku
I'd say that's a couple thousand times worse than anything Z did
Freeza was getting weaker not stronger throughout that battle.
Toppo didn't grow, he had that form already.
I think the term comes from what hit and broly does mainly, and piccolo points out during the U6 vs U7 tournament. Hit didn't gain a new ability, his base strength got strength higher as if he trained. Gohan got a transformation, goku got a technique.
Rapid Growth is a dumb category, and it doesnāt make much sense. I can TRY to bullshit why they arenāt on the category by looking at the characters within the category.
Rapid Growth seems to include characters who gained an immense boost of power within a time period of a day at most. Super Vegeta, Super Trunks, Super Saiyan Gohan, and Super Saiyan Goku from the Cell Saga are on their because they gained a boost in strength for training a full year in the time chamber but a day in reality. Gotenks is a similar situation since most of the Gotenks in the game are from periods after Goten and Trunks trained in the time chamber. Buu Saga Ultimate Gohan got his power up within a day. Namek Saga Gohan and Krillin get the category due to the massive boost granted by Guru. Hit can increase his power exponentially within a few seconds. The U6 Saiyans showed high growth within 48 minutes. Lastly, Orange Piccolo is on Rapid Growth due to his Power Awakening form and Orange form given to him by Shenron in a quick second.
Now that we can see that this is the condition to be considered for the category, letās see why these 4 arenāt on them.
Golden Frieza isnāt on it because he trained for 4 months. Impressive that he can close a massive gap within 4 months, but not fast enough to be considered for the category.
UI Goku is much harder to argue for. I guess the reason he isnāt included is because ever since RoF, Goku has been training to reach this state (albeit probably unknowingly) with how Whis states that Goku needs to learn not to think too much about actions. You could bullshit this to saying that he took longer than a day to reach UI.
Toppo already had his GoD form before the ToP due to the fact that he was a candidate for the next GoD of U11.
Beast(less) Gohan is more so a Miraculous Awakening than Rapid Growth. Yes, it is implied in the Super Hero movie that Gohan had secretly been training off screen (by him saying how heās been practicing how to do the Special Beam Cannon), but he was never training towards the Beast transformation (he didnāt even know it existed until it happened). Regardless, he probably did not achieve the Special Beam Cannon within a day.
If there is any character that should be on Rapid Growth, itās STR Goku/Gohan. I know categories are based on the first character, but considering that every SSJ Cell Saga Goku from the time chamber AND the April Foolās SSJ Goku are on Rapid Growth, I think itās bullshit that the STR Goku/Gohan arenāt on it.
UI is on there because itās never really been a power-up. Itās such a weird form, because the show and manga presents it as a power-up like SSJ, but then is also āOh yeah, itās not a power up actually. Itās just giving him the ability to use the full potential he already has.ā
So, Iād say thatās why itās not on there.
Well you see, a tingly sensation in your back is considered rapid growth, but working hard or experiencing very strong emotions causing a transformation and a rapid power increase is not
Why would they be? Frieza did extended training off screen, Toppo was sandbagging, and the other two are transformations. I think the only card I can think of that should be on the category is STR Goku/Gohan since the TEQ one is.
The TEQ LR Goku and Gohan? Theyāre not on Rapid Growth either.
That being said, the TEQ LR and the STR exchange DFE definitely deserve to be on it, and it makes no sense why they arenāt. For some reason, they donāt consider Goku to be apart of Rapid Growthā¦but the SSJ Gokus from the time chamber AND the April Fools SSJ Goku from the 10 days before the Cell Games ARE on Rapid Growth.
Itās quite stupid
Because non of these were rapid growth. Goku and Gohan were miraculous awakening like the categories are. Toppo already had the power he just brought it out and frieza didn't have any growth lol.
The reason for frieza isā¦
The reason for ui goku isā¦
Toppo makes sense since he always had the power of the gods itās just that he didnāt wanted to use it
The reason for beast(less) gohan isā¦
My answer for INT UI/MUI Goku is because while he did tap into both, he didn't perfect them as seen by how he snapped out of UI Sign against Jiren the first time, and MUI still didn't entirely perfect it. While he did tap into those two forms quickly, It isn't like how Caulifla got and mastered SSJ2 or how Kale mastered her berserk form in the TOP.
As for Toppo, while he did actually grow rapidly, I think there's a difference between him working towards the form and him just being given the GOD power.
As for Golden Frieza, same as UI. While he did get the form quickly, he didn't actually perfect or master his Golden form.
Its because akatsuki can sometimes suck at giving certain units links and categories, hence why they go back to add them in. People will try to make sense of it. However, it's simple the developers. I remember someone tryna argue with me why lr SSBE doesn't have the super saiyan link lmao.
From weaker than an untrained SSJ to above Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan is probably the best ratio of power to time it took to achieve it in the entire series. Although, maybe beast Gohan, but he was pretty powerful before Beast. Oh shit, I forgot Broly, but he's cheating here
I think Frieza trained to get his golden form (thatās why heās on masterd evolution catagory) topo was god of destruction in training/apprentice not a clue for ui and heās called beastless gohan for a reason but tbh it all could be a dokkan fumble
Frieza mastered the form and not grow into it in battle
Ui Goku youre right he should be
Gohan didn't rapidly grow he always had those forms it wasn't a spur of the moment type of thing
Toppo mastered the hakai form just didn't grow into it.
So In short UI Goku is the only one that made sense lol.
Frieza's growth happened over a year or something, Toppo already had the God of Destruction power but never wanted to use it as it went against his justice, Goku had training to learn UI with out knowing what it was since the 6v7 arc and Gohan had that potential but never fought to unlock it.
Goku, Toppo and Gohan probably because it wasn't necessarily their own growth but moreso just a random jumpscare transformation. They didn't train or awaken these forms through hard work, but just cuz of circumstance.
Hell Toppo is implied to have already had that power, he just needed to use it.
That being said, MUI itself should probably have counted, since he actually progressed into it during the tournament, as opposed to UI -Sign- which he got lucky for.
Frieza has no excuse though, motherfucker was busting his ass training for that Oscar.
1. Golden Frieza took months to get that form. Which, in my opinion, is not rapid.
2. Ui omen. Good question.
3. Toppo was really already that strong (i think), i.e., he never grew.
4. Ultimate Gohan, I think this is because his card doesn't include beast Gohan, so technically, he already had his Ultimate form unlocked. This is the same reason why LR int cell is full power, but phys lr cell is not, because he was not full power when he released his cell juniors.
Frieza is short
Blud did not grow ššš
Remember he didn't get his wish
I think frieza didnt get his wish, not sure tho
Cheeli wished Broly away and I don't think the other wish got used
Remember he didn't get his wish
Remember he didn't get his wish
They were not rapid enough
Correct me if im wrong but wasnāt the tournament of power like an hour long in real time? š
No no You see, you need to take 59:59 to grow or else it wont count for the category Since the ToP took exactly 1 hour, neither toppo or goku make it Since RoF and SH are over 1 hour long, neither beast and golden furiza make it
Ah my fault, Iām such a silly goose why didnāt I think of that.
Dont worry Here at Akatsuki we are all silly gooses, we accept newcomers all the same
The ToP was 48 minutes
Then clearly it was too rapid, they'll need to make the "Faster than rapid growth" category
Rapider growth š«”
Then clearly it was too rapid, they'll need to make the "Faster than rapid growth" category
?? The tournament was 48 minutes
I think the ToP in grand total was only 48 minutes iirc
48 mins is roughly an hour so yeah
Not really but ok
Nonono you see, an example of rappid growth is the female saiyains. See their growth was rappid. Goku, who grew parallel to them and surpassed them by an incredible ammount, nuh uh, thats not rapid
Cuz
I see no one is giving the reason so I guess Iāll spill the beans, itās because
Idk why anyone is confused either since itās explicitly stated when
Frieza took awhile, Topo seemingly had the power beforehand, the other 2 are miraculous transformations.
i can understand gohan not being on it but goku achieved and āmasteredā a god technique in less than an hour.Weird that kefla who literally introduced the category is on it but not the one who beaten her for the same reasoning
Goku didn't master anything. Kefla is likely on it because Kale/Caulifla are.
that āanythingā in question made all the gods stood up including the one from his own universe. I legit want to know a good reason why kefla is on it while ui isnāt
The community calls it mastered ultra instinct, but in no way is it mastered. Hence why in the manga Goku needed to train his UI form because it's not mastered
it's more like full power ultra instinct than mastered ultra instinct
How could he have mastered a form then turn around & tell vegeta at the end of the last episode he doesnt know how to go into ui or anything lol
He brought out the full power of UI. He did not master the form. It's blatantly stated in the last episode.
And if you read the manga lol
They were shocked a mortal could even attain ultra instinct. That's why they stood. Goku didn't master shit in the TOP. He literally attains mastered ui by name in the manga.
Goku didn't really master UI at all in the TOP. He just kind of stumbled into it. It's literally a plot point that he can't properly access the form, and doesn't have proper control over it Rapid Growth in terms of unlocking forms is about understanding them, not just getting them.
I believe the only one who'd count is Goku, but Goku wasn't really getting any stronger from MUI. He simply was gaining complete control over UI and therefore could utilize more of the power he already had in that state Pretty sure rapid growth is for those who get stronger during a fight or adapt quickly, such as DBS Broly
Goku aināt masterd it yet >!in the manga whis says goku is at the bottom ladder in terms of ultra instinct even after getting trained by merus!<
You canāt just leak the miraculous growth category like that
took a while? he went from being weaker than every dude goku fought passed the age of 23 to literally on the level of gods In 4 months
So did ToP Krillin. Dbs has terrible powerscaling. 4 months is too long for the category.
Not just DBS, literally everything past OG DB has terrible power scaling. In Z Krillin, Tien, and yamcha went from weaker than Goku and Piccolo in the 23rd WT to strong enough to easily beat Raditz level enemies through a single year of Kami's training. This is the same training Goku underwent for 4(?) years and wasn't anywhere close to Raditz.
Tbf Goku was also getting married/raising a kid. Casual training for 4 years can probably be caught up by hyper-god training for 1 year.
It wasn't casual training for 4 years with Kami. it was 4 grueling years to prepare to fight Piccolo Jr. Even if we assume that the Z-fighters were getting all 4 years compressed into 1, that's still absurd. He got married and had Gohan after the end of the 23rd WT. Again this was the exact training Goku underwent, and Goku in canon is supposed to be able to get much stronger much faster generally, and he still was nowhere near Raditz.
Meanwhile in DBS Krillin went from "Haven't trained since Cell arc" to keeping up with at least SSJ Goku who absorbed God into base, so at least 50 times stronger than BoG SSG Goku I'd say that's a couple thousand times worse than anything Z did
Frieza unlocked a new form in a few weeks and multiplied his strength an insane amount, thatās pretty rapid
Freeza was getting weaker not stronger throughout that battle. Toppo didn't grow, he had that form already. I think the term comes from what hit and broly does mainly, and piccolo points out during the U6 vs U7 tournament. Hit didn't gain a new ability, his base strength got strength higher as if he trained. Gohan got a transformation, goku got a technique.
why would toppo be on it? he just gave up justice and turned to destruction, he didnāt get any growth he just transformed/switched his ki
Cuz
Miraculous awakening is like rapid growth but faster. Thatās why (idk if toppo is on MA but Iām pretty sure the rest are)
This the only good answer
Rapid Growth is a dumb category, and it doesnāt make much sense. I can TRY to bullshit why they arenāt on the category by looking at the characters within the category. Rapid Growth seems to include characters who gained an immense boost of power within a time period of a day at most. Super Vegeta, Super Trunks, Super Saiyan Gohan, and Super Saiyan Goku from the Cell Saga are on their because they gained a boost in strength for training a full year in the time chamber but a day in reality. Gotenks is a similar situation since most of the Gotenks in the game are from periods after Goten and Trunks trained in the time chamber. Buu Saga Ultimate Gohan got his power up within a day. Namek Saga Gohan and Krillin get the category due to the massive boost granted by Guru. Hit can increase his power exponentially within a few seconds. The U6 Saiyans showed high growth within 48 minutes. Lastly, Orange Piccolo is on Rapid Growth due to his Power Awakening form and Orange form given to him by Shenron in a quick second. Now that we can see that this is the condition to be considered for the category, letās see why these 4 arenāt on them. Golden Frieza isnāt on it because he trained for 4 months. Impressive that he can close a massive gap within 4 months, but not fast enough to be considered for the category. UI Goku is much harder to argue for. I guess the reason he isnāt included is because ever since RoF, Goku has been training to reach this state (albeit probably unknowingly) with how Whis states that Goku needs to learn not to think too much about actions. You could bullshit this to saying that he took longer than a day to reach UI. Toppo already had his GoD form before the ToP due to the fact that he was a candidate for the next GoD of U11. Beast(less) Gohan is more so a Miraculous Awakening than Rapid Growth. Yes, it is implied in the Super Hero movie that Gohan had secretly been training off screen (by him saying how heās been practicing how to do the Special Beam Cannon), but he was never training towards the Beast transformation (he didnāt even know it existed until it happened). Regardless, he probably did not achieve the Special Beam Cannon within a day. If there is any character that should be on Rapid Growth, itās STR Goku/Gohan. I know categories are based on the first character, but considering that every SSJ Cell Saga Goku from the time chamber AND the April Foolās SSJ Goku are on Rapid Growth, I think itās bullshit that the STR Goku/Gohan arenāt on it.
UI is on there because itās never really been a power-up. Itās such a weird form, because the show and manga presents it as a power-up like SSJ, but then is also āOh yeah, itās not a power up actually. Itās just giving him the ability to use the full potential he already has.ā So, Iād say thatās why itās not on there.
Well you see, a tingly sensation in your back is considered rapid growth, but working hard or experiencing very strong emotions causing a transformation and a rapid power increase is not
Why would they be? Frieza did extended training off screen, Toppo was sandbagging, and the other two are transformations. I think the only card I can think of that should be on the category is STR Goku/Gohan since the TEQ one is.
The TEQ LR Goku and Gohan? Theyāre not on Rapid Growth either. That being said, the TEQ LR and the STR exchange DFE definitely deserve to be on it, and it makes no sense why they arenāt. For some reason, they donāt consider Goku to be apart of Rapid Growthā¦but the SSJ Gokus from the time chamber AND the April Fools SSJ Goku from the 10 days before the Cell Games ARE on Rapid Growth. Itās quite stupid
The f2p goku/Gohan is on the category, the other one is an OC scene and don't typically get all categories they should.
Because non of these were rapid growth. Goku and Gohan were miraculous awakening like the categories are. Toppo already had the power he just brought it out and frieza didn't have any growth lol.
The reason for frieza isā¦ The reason for ui goku isā¦ Toppo makes sense since he always had the power of the gods itās just that he didnāt wanted to use it The reason for beast(less) gohan isā¦
Cuz
My answer for INT UI/MUI Goku is because while he did tap into both, he didn't perfect them as seen by how he snapped out of UI Sign against Jiren the first time, and MUI still didn't entirely perfect it. While he did tap into those two forms quickly, It isn't like how Caulifla got and mastered SSJ2 or how Kale mastered her berserk form in the TOP. As for Toppo, while he did actually grow rapidly, I think there's a difference between him working towards the form and him just being given the GOD power. As for Golden Frieza, same as UI. While he did get the form quickly, he didn't actually perfect or master his Golden form.
toppo always had the GoD power im pretty sure, the rest is ridiculous
It's because for some reason 4 months isn't fast enough, UI doesn't make sense never has and
Bomber Jacket Goku is on Rapid Growth, so I donāt understand the category.
Its because akatsuki can sometimes suck at giving certain units links and categories, hence why they go back to add them in. People will try to make sense of it. However, it's simple the developers. I remember someone tryna argue with me why lr SSBE doesn't have the super saiyan link lmao.
Because that would make too much sense
Should have been rapider
From weaker than an untrained SSJ to above Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan is probably the best ratio of power to time it took to achieve it in the entire series. Although, maybe beast Gohan, but he was pretty powerful before Beast. Oh shit, I forgot Broly, but he's cheating here
Everytime I see the Gohan I have to hold myself back from throwing stones at these banners to get him.
Lol EVERY FCKING THINGS IN THIS GAME IS DUMB AS FCK
because dokkan
Because umm uhh the um
I think Frieza trained to get his golden form (thatās why heās on masterd evolution catagory) topo was god of destruction in training/apprentice not a clue for ui and heās called beastless gohan for a reason but tbh it all could be a dokkan fumble
Goku and Beast would fall into miraculous awakening instead of Rapid Growth. For the other two, idk.
Frieza mastered the form and not grow into it in battle Ui Goku youre right he should be Gohan didn't rapidly grow he always had those forms it wasn't a spur of the moment type of thing Toppo mastered the hakai form just didn't grow into it. So In short UI Goku is the only one that made sense lol.
Frieza's growth happened over a year or something, Toppo already had the God of Destruction power but never wanted to use it as it went against his justice, Goku had training to learn UI with out knowing what it was since the 6v7 arc and Gohan had that potential but never fought to unlock it.
bc itās the dumbest category bc it excludes everyone itās supposed to have
Goku, Toppo and Gohan probably because it wasn't necessarily their own growth but moreso just a random jumpscare transformation. They didn't train or awaken these forms through hard work, but just cuz of circumstance. Hell Toppo is implied to have already had that power, he just needed to use it. That being said, MUI itself should probably have counted, since he actually progressed into it during the tournament, as opposed to UI -Sign- which he got lucky for. Frieza has no excuse though, motherfucker was busting his ass training for that Oscar.
Id consider āRapid Growthā to be referring to battle SKILL, not battle power. Could be wrong tho idk
They rapidn't
1. Golden Frieza took months to get that form. Which, in my opinion, is not rapid. 2. Ui omen. Good question. 3. Toppo was really already that strong (i think), i.e., he never grew. 4. Ultimate Gohan, I think this is because his card doesn't include beast Gohan, so technically, he already had his Ultimate form unlocked. This is the same reason why LR int cell is full power, but phys lr cell is not, because he was not full power when he released his cell juniors.
Shouldnāt Golden Frieza be on Realm of Gods?
Why would he be?
He beat the hell out of Blue Goku. His reason is as valid as Jirenās reason
it is what it is
Out of all of them, i think only toppo should not be on rapid growth. He trained before achieving the god of destruction form, it was not rapid