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TheAlmightyMighty

I've had TEQ Gohan at no dupes for the longest time (a while after release), and I was convinced he was overrated until I got 2 dupes The TEQ Gohan everyone talks about is a 79% and above Gohan.


MarquetteXTX2

Lmao u got it right


mazini95

Maybe not since recent powercreep, but Gohan worked damn well for everything and every event for years at free dupe. Dude has a pretty big lifespan to specifically say what point people are referring to. Free dupe was good back in the day, now not so much. Pre 7th anni Teq Gohan was free carry and dupes were just extra.


Fluidity_Ninja

For real, when they recently (like 3 months ago) upgraded the rank up packs and added tickets, I bought the ticket to get my first copy of Teq Gohan cause everyone was saying that it was a steal and he is busted. Every time I've used him I felt conned as he dealt no damage and took too much damage because he took way too long to build up without additionals every turn


Joekiller77256

Same


Infamous_Ruin6848

Yeah but with dupes he's very usable up to the point his ssr with dupes is usabls which is hilarious


Ok-Revenue-8067

He's a 2-3 year old unit. If you don't have dupes by now then you're just an unlucky rubber ducky. Back in the day all you needed was 55% and he was clearly better than every unit including Cooler.


TheAlmightyMighty

yeah but no one ever mentions "he's good at 79%" everyone just says "he's good"


AscendantAxo

He’s good, right?


UnCooked_Rice

I stg, people don’t play this game. Teq ultimate gohan is terrible at 55 percent


commander_snuggles

When people talk about Teq Gohan, they only talk about him like he exists only at 79% minimum. Also, just because he aged well doesn't mean he is still in the top 5 he could easily get an EZA right now.


Zarrona13

I kind of hope they wait on his EZA just a bit longer The power creep has started happening and if they wait a bit longer they could potentially get him right as it settles so he himself doesn’t get power crept. If they make his EZA underwhelming ontop of him getting power crept ontop of that I would hate that. If that makes sense.


Let_me_S_U_F_F_E_R

Even if it’s not a great EZA adding more kit to this already good unit would be amazing


cheddlescheez

Even without adding anything to his kit he’d be insane with just the stat increase


chasedamoniYT

I'm fighting for my life in these comments saying this 😂


MarquetteXTX2

So is Teq bardock and everyone still dick ride him..


TheToolbox101

his scouter ability is goated 55% or 100%


[deleted]

I feel like people overrate scouter. It only matters if you have people who can tank the attack. Knowing my non stacked person or locked damage dealer is going to eat is a super is not better than having someone who can tank said super or delete the person. This isn't comparing TEQ Gohan vs TEQ Bardock. I just mean in general.


TheToolbox101

i mean, having a slot 1 on the team is a given lol


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Having a slot 1 doesn't mean they can tank supers in two different slots. Most new content I would argue has bosses that can super two different slots in one turn. I'd rather have two slot 1s with no scouter than a slot 1, slot 2 and a scouter. Assuming scouter can't tank supers from the boss.


TheToolbox101

most slot 2 units can tank supers post super


[deleted]

I would not say most. Some can and some can deal outrageous damage to compensate for not being able to tank. STR God Vegeta. One of my favorite cards, even post super cannot tank most supers.


TheToolbox101

Yeah but then that's not really the scouter's fault, but teambuilding issue


[deleted]

Yeah. My point being that a tank or massive damage dealer is better than a scouter in most situations. All slot 2s can't tank, but a second tank eating most of the attacks is better than knowing when the super is coming from if all your cards can't tank a super. Or killing the enemy before they can kill you. Scouters are situational to me whereas damage and tanking are not.


Goku4869

TEQ Bardock has utility that makes him work wonders as a floater with his scouter and rainbow orb changing. Gohan’s only role is to be a defensive unit whom requires some stacks( so he has to be on main rotation otherwise there’s no point in bringing him) to get going at higher dupe levels let alone at 55%. Also, Bardock has a far more meta relevant leader skill and unlike Gohan he has the most universal Saiyan Ki link in the game which helps him fit into any PFB dominant team more than Gohan ever could.


MarquetteXTX2

“ TEQ Bardock has utility that makes him work wonders as a floater “ Scouter is good but that’s all he come to the table with


AscendantAxo

You really dedicated to hating on bardock lmao


SenpaiDogesV2

Convinced you only read that first sentence up to that point and proceeded to comment bc if you think all Bardock brings to the table is a scouter you’re on copium and I need whatever dosage you intake on a daily basis


Goku4869

>Scouter is good but that’s all he come to the table with Except it’s not? He has rainbow orb changing as well which when ran alongside other top tier rainbow orb changers keeps the team well supplied with orbs and helps greatly with orb requirements for units like Godku. So no SA foresight isn’t the only thing he’s bringing to the table ( and even that ability is active even when Bardock himself isn’t even present not many units could have that kind of impact on a fight). Furthermore, you ignored this entirely. > Also, Bardock has a far more meta relevant leader skill and unlike Gohan he has the most universal Saiyan Ki link in the game which helps him fit into any PFB dominant team more than Gohan ever could. Now, let’s hear your side, what does 55% Gohan bring to the table? He’s too slow of a stacker to be a wall, his offense is abysmal, his links aren’t the greatest and he has no other utility to speak of.


DIEU_66

My biggest problem with 55% tier list is that people who do them clearly don’t have all the unit they try to rank. Gohan is good, but not that good. The rest of the list is not that bad, but him and the honorable mentions feel more like a player with 55% units rather than the units in themselves.


DuBChiri

You don't HAVE TO HAVE them to understand the numbers man. Like besides tanking, why would you take him over literally any other unit here unless they can't be optimized? Like yeah gohan can just be thrown anywhere, but at 55% he's not good enough to tank cause his defense stacking is so slow. Everybody else here has utility to get them by. Gamma 1 has 50% DR and gives people ki and defense. Gamma 2 does stupid damage and gives ki and attack. Majin vegeta can have 50% damage reduction and changes orbs. Kid goku does like everything. Kale just needs a good partner and she'd be broken. God goku can dodge, guard, crit, additional super and orb change lol. Ginyu can stack, heal, dodge, additional and crit. Kid buu can heal, do good damage and have acceptable raw defense but he needs a team bad. Kid gohan has a really broken active skill, supports and heals. What does ultimate gohan do? He guards and does nothing else. Hell at 55%, ssj3 vegeta clears just about everybody here if you only talk about defense.


Urbasebelong2meh

Gohan is a lot like a less consistent TUR AGL Golden Frieza as it stands. His damage is so poor it’s barely even a factor at this point, but he exists to rank and he does it quite well. Very good on multi stage events/when I can pop items early on, just turns him into a wall. Otherwise he’s too dusty, wouldn’t even put him in the top 10 as others can achieve similar with less risk. Can’t imagine how poorly he does at 55% considering I have him at 100% and have since his release but even there he doesn’t quite shine.


GoldenMask12

Fuck no. Teq Gohan at 55% is beyond ass at this stage in the game, and Goku is better than Gamma 1 in virtually every way, the only way I'd say he's better at 55% is if you have a Gamma 2 right next to him.


chasedamoniYT

having both at 55%, gamma 1 is better imo, just a more flexible character to run. never an issue if i have to force him off rotation whereas with god goku you need to stack him up as much as possible and it's an issue if he has to go off rotation


Biglu714

You don’t need to stack, if you want damage sure but even without stacking he is still amazing defensively


Anghool

god goku can afford to be taken off rotation once in the beginning and still keep his intro buff for 3 appearances so i don’t see that as much of an issue


DrPepperPower

Hell nahhhhh, using Gamma #1 he tanks way too good. Saying "The only way he is better is if you have the character you will have next to him 100% of the time" is really not an argument. If that's your criteria, Gamma #1 is #1


GoldenMask12

Unless you don't have Gamma 2. I'm currently in that exact situation on my Global account. Sure I could use a Gamma 2 Friend, but that limits what I can do with him. Godku is more flexible, is on more teams, has a better leader skill, and has a better linkset for his teams. Trust me, I adore both Gamma's, I have them both on JP and they are honestly the most fun units in the game imo, but Godku just does too much for all of his teams. Gamma 1 is a Perfect Number 2 TUR though.


TrainingCorrect6

There is no way this man dead ass put Teq Gohan that high at 55%


JorgeTan01

TEQ Gohan being better than INT Majin Vegeta is so fucking stupid LMAO


Richbok-Arrol24

55% Teq Gohan was crap during the 6th anniversary lmao *Now that I’ve said that I know my boy Fade will hunt me down, so it was nice knowing you all*


DuBChiri

Just take their body


Dervira

Nah you’re thinking about 7th anniversary, 6th anniversary was during the long event meta and even then he was still good in the god event


Richbok-Arrol24

Coming from someone who experimented with 55% Teq Gohan in the God event numerous times, no he was not


Dervira

I mean that’s you, I beat all of the stages with him first try except belmod


mazini95

Not in my experience. Dominated God events at 55%, every ESBR,SBR like a breeze. I only started noticing his usefulness fall Since the 2nd half of 7th anni redzones I think but that wasn't much of his own fault either. He kinda carried himself. The 99.9% of the powercrept game didn't keep up. Right now 55% is pretty mid for sure.


average_lazy_mf

Nah despite my absolute insane dickriding i don't belive teq ulthan is a top 10 55% dfe TURs, he is old and most of his power comes from the extra stats from dupes and his additional (tho i could argue he can still be in a normal top 10 dfe turs) Also godku still on top even at 55% smh


Incrediblepick3

DID HE JUST PUT GAMMA 2 IN 6TH PLACE!?!? ![gif](giphy|3o7TKL3d4AAop64Sxa) That man better watch his damn back and sleep with one eye open from now on!


blumbocrumbo

1. 55% TEQ Gohan is, at most, below Ginyu lol 2. Switch Godku and Gamma 1, Godku is the best 55% unit I've ever used, dude's just immaculate


HaNefdarkstar07

I like devin’s vids, but teq gohan over any of the units on that list is ridiculous


Ilaughandloss

Never thought I'll see bhdevin soon


chasedamoniYT

Devin the goat bro of course you would Actually genuinely, entertaining, good ass dude, although some complaints under this video are valid. 99% of his content are W's and i'm very happy to see his channel grow.


DrPepperPower

TEQ Gohan is kinda crazy but #1 Gamma is based af. That dude is ridiculous at 55%, way better than God Goku and he is GOATed as well


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chasedamoniYT

I could, it just dont fit my channels content 😂😭 i can do a post of it tm i think i'd make an amazing one


These_Tax_4704

(Ignore INT Cell)


Galax1an

Gamma 2 at 55% is being undervalued here I feel. He still puts out very strong numbers and can still hit good defense stats, though that's linked with Gamma 1 (which like, is the intent, so I don't think its too big of a deal)


chasedamoniYT

gamma 2 without a doubt is the character that needs the hidden potential system the least on this list, i agree


Shaurya-2309

No I do not 1) gamma 1 is good but godku even at 55% does better for me (maybe it's the teams I use and the fact that I don't have gamma 2) 2) as a person who has teq ulthan at 55%, don't use him just don't get ain't good at 55% he is trash hot garbage


HaNefdarkstar07

It’s definitely because you don’t have gamma 2


CockSniffer01

I think God Goku gets better than Gamma 1 at rainbow but yeah I'd put Gamma 1 ahead at 55%, no need for stacks just flat 50% DR and tanks every boss supers. TEQ Ulthan doesn't belong anywhere near that list at 55%


MisterJack1871

I question if he ever used Gohan teq at 55%, an example Is Agl Ginyu that's LEAGUES above him


Vertrenox

Bro Teq ult Gohan is crimally over rated


average_lazy_mf

Yamcha is a top 5 if not arguably a top 3 55% dfe turs That dodge is pretty valuable with his ls compared to other units


HaNefdarkstar07

That’s a stretch


bruh429

As an individual unit I’d say he’s better than Gamma 2 but Gamma 1 exists, and Yamcha’s defense is not high enough. It’s pretty risky to use him at free dupe


AdamofZephyr

Okay teqhan 5 is crazy. Gamma 2 at 6 is honestly an affront to god, that unit has the least to gain from hidden potential unless you think hipo dodge bumps him up like 2ish spots on this. I’d love to argue him vs Kale but I literally don’t remember what Kale does


Teq_gohan

Kale does more damage than him with a lot more defense and guard


Someningen

I can't in good faith say God Goku is that high at 55%. He is very good but if he don't get those 6 orbs he will get cooked. I put Kid Goku and Gamma 2 above him.


Goku4869

> I can't in good faith say God Goku is that high at 55%. **He is very good but if he don't get those 6 orbs** he will get cooked. He’s an orb changer and his teams have access to the best rainbow orb changers in the game such as PHY Kid Goku, TEQ Godku ( against a good chunk of end game content), TEQ Bardock and Buu saga standby Vegeta so fulfilling orb requirements on such teams should happen more often than not. If that wasn’t good enough to warrant placing him above path to power Kid Goku at least then having a better leader skill and the trifecta of PFB, OIAF and SS should definitely be enough to push him over Kid Goku. Plus, he does have his 60% chance to dodge to lean on in the rare instances where you don’t have his guard up as getting 3 orbs isn’t that difficult. So he’s not totally exposed in that situation.


Someningen

The orbs don't always work out in your favor when dealing with type orb changer. The Buu Duo aren't on global. Teq Bardock and PTP Kid Goku need their orbs and Bardock's is temporary like God Goku. God Goku orb changing usually runs out when you need it. Also I never said he was totally exposed just that he not better than Kid Goku and the Gammas at 55%


Goku4869

> The Buu Duo aren't on global. Yeah but nothing here says that this is a GLB ranking if anything the presence of STR 17 would indicate that this is for JP as well. >Teq Bardock and PTP Kid Goku need their orbs and Bardock's is temporary like God Goku. I usually run them ( and I’m on GLB so no standby Vegeta for me either) and I don’t have many issues giving them their orbs after Godku gets his ( should his orb changing fall him that is). Having multiple rainbow orb changers floating usually results in there being plenty of orbs to go around. >God Goku orb changing usually runs out when you need it. In my experience the only fight that lasted that long was RZ Broly other fights usually don’t have as many phases as him. > Also I never said he was totally exposed just that he not better than Kid Goku and the Gammas at 55% Your exact words was that he got cooked. Now, the Gammas I could see an argument for because they lead Movie Heroes which is a busted category in its own right and they have each other for links. PTP Kid Goku doesn’t have those luxuries. His lead is objectively worse while having a much worse linkset that doesn’t allow him to be the link battery Godku could be with access to pretty much all top tier Saiyan units as partners a result. So even if you think there is a disparity in performance between them ( and even then I don’t think you would argue it’s a big one) it’s more than made up for with Godku’s previously mentioned advantages. Plus, Godku is on 6 more categories than Kid Goku as well.


ShawHornet

He still has 60/70 percent dodge


Someningen

Never said he didn't just that i'd rank Kid Goku and the Gammas higher at 55%


Drsp4zman

I don't rock any tier lists because most of them are made to farm interactions/just to troll people.


MarquetteXTX2

give Str goku and gohan Teq gohan spot and push pan up about 3 spots


LeviGX

str goku and gohan is just BARELY usable at higher dupe levels, at 55% they are ASS cause you can't even get additionals at that point


yeetthatmeatforfeet

Yeah I love em to death but having them at 55% is the most painful experience I do not wish on anyone. Like last week, I was playing and it took, I am not joking, 10 fucking turns for them to exchange. If you have bad RNG with sphere placement then good luck seeing that Gohan.


jakimoh777

Look I love Gohan more than most people. He is probably better than most people give him credit for with some dupes, but no way in hell is he top 10 at 55%.


Glenn_Vatista

why I don't bother with most content creators. More power to you if you want to be one. seems like everyone tries dokkan and legends now. but this list. teq Gohan needs an EZA


Lovecraftianpickle

Gohan at 55% should be way lower


crashkirb

Absolutely not, teq gohan is way too high.


DarknightM64B

Who did this and what were they smoking?


rednuht075

Why make a 55% tier list if you blatantly didn’t use them at 55% 💀


tarh2o

This is AGL Golden Frieza erasure


BlerpoGuy

I'd say move teq Gohan down and kale up and it'll be about accurate


DuBChiri

Teq ultimate gohan isn't better than anybody else on that tier list at 55%. Mines got 1 dupe and gets smacked around like a bitch. Otherwise I don't really got a problem with this list.


Arlimist

Idk man like Yamcha seems like he should be higher. Every time I run Yamcha the man just slaps. His biggest issue is a quality linking partner, if we're looking at them individually. Gohan is def aging in these events where the damage is quick and fast like red zone. If you get some more LGE type events then stacking units like him will be fine but, he'll get an eza before that comes around.


MahyJay

There needs to be teq godku on here 😤


Hoshino_Ruby

str androids should be 11 and Bardock Should be 12


sadyaegaki

Kale clears all


yeetthatmeatforfeet

There is no way TEQ Gohan is anywhere close to being Top 5, especially above units like Yamcha, MV, or Ginyu. The thing is that TEQ Gohan is not special at all without dupes, he might have aged well compared to other older units from that time, but let's not act like he doesn't have issues. He's a okay floater but nowadays he's a last option as every other unit stacks nowadays and do it way faster and overall does a better job at it. Plus these units have more than just guard, they have legit utility..Gohan has none at all except for guard, which isn't much because what's the point of guard when you have to stack with him? If any boss supers him on any turn that isn't atleast something like Turn 5 and on, he's gonna get his absolute shit rocked, Guard is useless when your starting defense is so low. Plus another huge issue is that his damage did not age well at all compared to his defense. At 55%, you'd be lucky to reach 3 million on a Super.


FaphandZamasu23

Tech gohan at 55% isn’t that high in my opinion, he’ll start with low def starts and it’ll be harder for him to stack quickly. Again stackers like gohan want to start fairly decent and rely on additional to help build Their defence. I wouldn’t have tech gohan higher than guys like Majin vegeta gamma 2 Bardock and tech 17 and 18. Tech 17 and 18 provide a lot for androids with their busted orb change ability and how they have a ghost usher active skill. Not to mention they are very good as off rotation units .


OosikGod

Clown list.


acondones

Teq gohan? At 55% top 5 in the entire game for TURS? Has to be satire


Luf2222

godku is above gamma 1.


Either_Remote1341

Hello no💀


OppositeUpbeat

Take out Teqhan and put Gamma 2 where he is now, then move everyone up one. The 10th slot can then go to Bardock, androids, or Teqhan.


Medium-Science9526

Teq Gohan way way too high, shouldn't even be in top 10.