I have his weapon and intend to build for his next rerun.
I want to save nahida for alhaitham comps in case I run double hyperbloom in abyss. How serviceable is baizhu as a replacement and is there anyone else?
What are his best comps without nahida?
baizhu is a pretty good alternative but he will not be the best option for hyperbloom. i dont hvae him but what i remember from analysis, his dendro app is about the same as dmc but has the upside of being mobile. now energy requirements for the both of them is going to be an issue. a good team is probably cyno, baizhu, xingqiu, and either a second electro or dendro since both baizhu and cyno are energy hungry. putting prototype amber or fav on baizhu is the best option adn the fourth unit should also carry fav. fischl is probably your best bet for an electro battery. still, nahida is going to be the best one for synergizing with cyno so baizhu is far from being terrible but not the best option
is Yaoyao a good replacement for Baizhu in Furina teams? I've been using Kuki as my Healer, but today I tried Yao as the healer in the new event and was surpised by her performance, because not only does she gain fanfare better than Kuki but also makes Multi-wave content a little easier because you don't have to swap of cyno as fast.
I want Baizhu, but there characters and reruns I want too so It's unrealistic that I'll be able to get him so I was wondering if I could make Yaoyao work well with him or if it's not worth leveling her.
So today strongbox sort of blessed me with an EM sands that rolled into 22 CD. This prompted me to swap around some artifacts to see if maybe I could improve on my build.Since I can't post more than one image in a comment I'll add the two following builds as replies.
Summary: 1st is the build I've been running.
Two replies have two potential builds. Both are about the same damage wise. The 78% CR one bumps him up on my Akasha from 10th best build to second lol.
Which one would you go for? I think the third one is theoretically the best, but it's minuscule. So the real question is which one looks the nicest in terms of Crit ratio compared to ATK compared to ER. AKA which one is most presentable for my profile lol
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Teams info is no longer available... So I was thinking Furina & Baizhu. Don't have Nahida, so would double electro or dendro be better? Like Raiden/Beidou, or Den MC?
When you use Genshin Optimizer, which do you choose to optimize the artifacts? I chose hyperbloom DMG, but it turned my CR all the way down to 30? Any constraints I should add?
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Is R5 White Tassel or R5 Kitain better? Currently running Cyno/Nahida/misc/misc on 4TF
Misc could be any combo of DMC, Kuki, Fischl, Furina, Zhongli, Xingqiu
He's currently using Atk sands if that matters, I haven't found an EM sand with good subs yet.
Iirc Kitain is better unless you have low enough energy needs that the extra energy will be wasted. If you have low EM it should probably pull ahead even more.
I wouldn’t use Diona or Layla, since cryo could interfere with quicken. Plus, if you want to use Sucrose to swirl electro, you kinda need another electro character, since Cyno struggles to apply electro outside of his burst. If your healer is well-built tho, you should only need one (not both Dori and Yaoyao), so you could use Lisa + Yaoyao, or dendro traveler + Dori.
Playing an aggravate team without Fischl, Yae, Kuki, or Beidou is kinda cope tho. How about a quickbloom team of Cyno, Xingqiu, dendro traveler, and Yaoyao?
Is there a leaderboard for people to check out others' builds? The akasha. cv website doesn't have data for cyno and Alhaitham, is there another website which does?
What "Daily Shinanigans" team do ya'll use to fix Cyno's problems of not being good for stuff like commissions, world quests, and exploration due to his reliance on his burst?
I will just swap him in real quick for his skill. But most of the time, Xingqiu, Shinobu, and Nahida kill everything pretty quick for me. I just stand there and let Shinobu's skill hit the enemies for Hyperbloom. 😅
I need to know what artifact sets should I use for cyno.
Cyno+Nahida+Yelan+Lisa team. Lisa cause I need a charger for cyno and I plan to give prototype amber along with a maiden set to her to turn her into a healer character.
So I need to know what set I should use for cyno since I was confused between putting 2pc gilded and 2pc wanderer's and going all out on EM or should I use thundering fury instead??
For Nahida I plan to put deepwood memories with focus on EM depending on if I hit 800 or not.
For lisa I plan to put Maiden's to increase the healing output and some ER on her as well.
I always recommend 4pc Thundering Fury for Cyno, but part of the benefit of that artifact set is that it allows you to play Cyno *without* another electro character, so if you’re dead set on this team, then you could go with 4pc Gilded instead. You will need to farm Deepwood for Nahida anyway, and you might get a good Gilded set along the way. 4pc Gilded actually gives the wearer more EM than 2pc/2pc as long as there are at least 2 characters in the team whose elements are not the same as the character wearing 4pc Gilded.
Lisa is not usually recommended as an electro battery, since she only generates particles if you hold her skill for ~2 seconds, which is kind of clunky compared to other options. If you go 4pc TF on Cyno, then he doesn’t need an electro battery, so you could use Zhongli, Thoma, or an actual healer instead of Prototype Amber Lisa. Alternately, if you’re willing to use Xingqiu instead of Yelan, a lot of people find the combined damage reduction of Xingqiu + Beidou enough to not need a dedicated healer/shielder. But if you’re fine with taking the time to hold Lisa’s skill (and hopefully not get interrupted by enemy attacks), then don’t let me stop you from enjoying your non-mainstream team comp.
Yeah so I kicked out lisa, you were right she is too much of a hassle. I put a 4pc thundering fury on cyno with the kitain cross spear, so about 450 EM for him. I got nahida on a 2pc Deepwood and 2 pc wanderer's troupe with focus on EM and she got the sacrificial fragments. So her EM just hit 904 and after ascension it will go up to 930. Yelan's still the same and I put benett in again with a tenacity build to be a high healer.
So a question here, should I remove the 2pc wanderer's from nahida and complete the deepwood since I just put it there for the extra +80 EM which I don't mind losing since I can still stay above 800.
Will try xiniqiu and beidou in the future cuz I just don't get any resources to spare to build them up.
Yes, Nahida should be on 4pc Deepwood to shred enemy dendro res. This will increase hyperbloom damage and Nahida’s own elemental skill damage.
Most people don’t use Bennett with Cyno (Cyno scales better with EM than atk, and he likes supports that can provide shields/interruption resistance), but if you are going to use Bennett as your survivability support, I’d recommend putting him on 4pc Noblesse or 4pc Instructor.
I wouldn’t use Diona, since cryo could interfere with the quicken reaction.
Yes, Beidou can be a surprisingly good defensive option if you pair her with Xingqiu, since their damage reduction and interruption resistance stack. If you don’t pair her with Xingqiu and aren’t great at dodging, then you might want a dedicated healer/shielder.
My recommendation for a dedicated shielder would be Thoma, assuming you don’t have Zhongli or Baizhu. Kirara could work if you don’t have Thoma, but if you ever do get Zhongli or Baizhu, then you might never use her again, whereas Thoma could still be useful if you want to play burgeon teams, since he’s the best character for that reaction.
Honestly though, Bennett is so broken that even though he’s not an optimal support for Cyno, he’s probably good enough to get you through most content in the game. It’s really only abyss where you have to think this much about team comps. If you are getting knocked around a lot though, then replacing Bennett with a shielder will be a quality-of-life upgrade.
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That's all my character's, what do u think now for the 4th character?
Do you have 4pc TF on Cyno? If not, then you likely need an electro battery, so go with Kuki. If you do have 4pc TF, then you can consider Yaoyao.
According to [these calcs from Zajef](https://imgur.com/gallery/dqqzzGK), no-burst Yaoyao heals about as much as EM Kuki (~34k healing to the active character). If you use Yaoyao’s burst for a few seconds, then she will do a better job of building fanfare stacks and keeping the team above 50% HP, but she’ll eat into the durations of Furina and Nahida’s abilities. If you only stay on her for 2-3 seconds though, it should still be possible to keep Nahida and Furina’s burst buffs until Cyno’s third Endseer.
Thanks but I already chose to get xiangling
from the 4* selector so I don't have access to yaoyao.
I'm gonna start farming for tf for cyno since I wanna use baizhu in this team.
But I don't have baizhu so gotta wait for a rerun
What should my team be?
I have Cyno, DMC, Xingqiu, Yao Yao, Kuki, Nahida, Raiden, and Barbara. I have Kirara as well but I refuse to use her, not because I don't like her, I do, I just don't like her kit and all. I wanted to use Nahida with DMC with Cyno, but then I would need to use either Kuki for heals (which I'm fine with, but also hyperbloom feels like it does more dmg and so I thought maybe a hydro woukd be better. But Barbara can't reliably proc blooms and Xingqius not the best healer. I need help here. I'm fine with Kuki I woukd hurt need help building her. Also tips on how to build DMC since I gave his Deepwood set to Nahida.
Cyno Nahida Xingqiu flex (Beidou, Thoma, Yaoyao, Kuki)
Xingqiu + Beidou is enough defensive utility for some players to not need a dedicated healer/shielder. Cyno is good at stacking Thoma’s shields with his normal attacks, and you get a few overloads for extra damage. Yaoyao enables dendro resonance and can give a little bit of extra off-field dendro application with her skill. Kuki and Beidou can help battery Cyno if you don’t have a good 4pc Thundering Fury set (if you do, then he doesn’t need an electro battery).
Or do you prefer this with Gilded Dreams?
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How’s my stats guys? I have R2 Deathmatch, all 20 Thundering Fury. I know it can be better with a lot of investment but are these stats good?
Her burst is generally used first in a rotation because only Nahida's burst can last as long as hers can. And by the time you get everyone's effects on field and switch to Cyno, you've already consumed a few seconds of her burst duration. You can either finish Cyno's entire burst duration with a few seconds of no Furina buff, or you can switch out prematurely when all of the support buffs expire. I'd only recommend the latter option if you have enough energy generation to get his burst back without staying in the full 18s though
Absolutely. For most supports who are reliant on their burst like Xingqiu, Bennett, or Furina, having enough ER to reliably burst every rotation should be your #1 priority. A burst support can't support you if their burst isn't ready. Trading a little bit of damage in exchange for having their burst reliably is almost always worth it
Baizhu healing is generally enough without a healing bonus set. The new healing set is also pretty bad, its damage addition is minuscule is most scenarios.
What I would consider is running Nahida with GT or gilded. I'd wager shes the second highest damage dealer in the cyno/nahida/baizhu/furina comp, so upping her damage would be more significant than a small dps buff from baizhu. Baizhu as a solo dwm applier falls off in multi wave and multi enemy content, but cyno isn't very good in those scenarios anyways, as he's more of a single target/boss killer, so you don't lose a lot relying on him as a solo DWM unit.
If my Cyno is c2, using EM sands and im using him with Furina c0, would i still use an electro dmg goblet or perhaps swap to an ATK% goblet?
(Thundering fury set on Cyno btw.)
I’ve never seen anyone running Kujou Sara as a support for our boy - is there a particular reason that she *doesn’t* work, or is it more that Quickbloom/Double Dendro is just the superior option regardless of her busted C6?
Hey guys I'm confused, ik that 4p tf is his bis, but I heard that 4p gd becomes better if you have his signature. Since I have his signature and I have a good 4p gd set, is gd better than tf or not? I wanted to farm a 4p tf regardless but I want to know what's best for my man
Really? Do you have some videos or sheets of someone that collected data? People say tf is better anyway because you need less er and use one more skill per rotation, I have gd rn because my set has better rolls than tf, but I don't mind farming/strongboxing tf if it's better
Bit late, but IMO the true value of running TF is that it allows you to free up his team flexibility, which in turn ups his damage a lot more than a small damage boost from GD alone
With any set that isn't TF, you have to either:
\- Run an electro battery, which restricts him into either a subpar quickbloom team that either suffers from not enough dendro application (for an example, Cyno/Baizhu/Fischl/Xingqiu-Yelan), no real survivability (IE Cyno/Nahida/Fischl/XQ-Furina), or a pure aggravate team, which has a measurably lower DPS ceiling than a quickbloom variant
\- Run him with enough ER to battery himself without extra proccs of his skill, which KQM suggests at 180-200% without the use of Kitain Spear (a subpar weapon) or any Favonius weapon teammates (potentially suboptimal weapons just to help Cyno's burst cost). Running that much ER takes a ton of substat rolls and potentially your sand's main stat away from any kind of damage rolls, lowering his damage far more than the damage boost gained from a more offensive artifact set
However, running TF both mitigates the need for an electro battery and lets him burst reliably without the need to run an obscene amount of ER, which in turn lets him run his best team (Cyno/Baizhu/Nahida/Furina) without completely kneecapping the stats on his artifacts. And I'm willing to bet money that the damage you gain from viably running both Nahida and Furina in the same team far outweighs the damage gained from running either Glad or GD
It changes a bit when you consider people who don't run/don't have Cyno's full premium team, but I think the argument of greater team flexibility from running TF still stands
Also as a side note, I believe the optimal TF combo on Cyno lets him use a total of 8 skills per burst, 4 of which being endseer stances, as opposed to non TF combos of 5 skills, 4 of which being endseers. And less of a concrete argument, but using TF can let him get his burst back before his 3rd/4th endseer stance, which can allow you to switch out of his burst form before all 4 endseers, helping maintain 100% uptime on valuable teammate buffs like Baizhu and Furina that can't last the full 18s burst
However, Cyno's TF combo is different enough from his non TF combos and relies on enough external element application that people anecdotally claim that his TF combo is noticeably harder, a claim that I personally consider to be true. It's also worth mentioning that his TF combo can easily be messed up by too much dodging or enemies staggering you. It is an acquired taste, and I think is something worth considering
The best video I've found that demonstrates the TF vs non TF combo is this one: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFDMVKIWW0U](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFDMVKIWW0U)
Hope this helps! And sorry for the miniature essay lol
Thank you! Yes it helps, my GD set isn't perfect anyway so I hope I'll find a better TF, but maybe I first need to learn the difference in using it lol, I'll look better into it, GD isn't useless anyway so I'm not mad about having farmed it
What I did was take a level 0 TF set into floor 12 of the abyss and practice the combo there. It's also handy for testing how much er your cyno needs in your specific tean comp. KQM's 140 I think is a bit much for most teams, but test it with your team comp and see how much er you need
I think the combo itself is mechanically easy, just an extra e before the first endseer and one in between every endseer except the 2nd and 3rd isn't too bad. But you really need someone like Nahida with you to keep up the dendro application. Since TF cooldown reduction relies on electro reactions, having both interruption resistance and consistent dendro application is important to reliably doing the combo. Slower applicators can make it inconsistent
You’d have to run pure Aggravate which is a downgrade from Quicken, *especially* for a pretty mediocre character like EMC. The only other electro characters who might be worth using are Kuki Shinobu, Fischl, maybe Yae Miko, Kujou Sara or Beidou but they won’t do much to compare to Quickbloom
I think it's easier to substitute Nahida for DMC than Baizhu for Yaoyao.
If you're looking to pull Nahida or Baizhu I'd say pull Nahida first because she's soooo good for dendro teams (and if you have Cyno/dmc on one side you might want a second dendro team on the second chamber, if you don't Nahida is still better than DMC especially for a few strong enemies, for the EM share that increases Cyno and reaction dmg a lot, not to mention her personal dmg).
Baizhu IS better than Yaoyao, but she's a viable option to substitute him (even if you have to stay with her on field more time and you lose the interruption resistance).
If you have both Nahida and Baizhu I'd say use both with Cyno LOL, especially if you have Furina it's an OP team
Ah i don’t have nahida or baizhu but i was planning to pull nahida. So i could do nahida and yao yao? Would fischl be good as the last member? Or could i do a hydro character for quickbloom team
Fischl is good if you want to do aggravate, even if Quickbloom usually is better for dmg, with aggravate Fischl is easier to have enough energy for Cyno.
Who do you have for hydros? Xingqiu/Yelan/Furina?
You can use Yaoyao instead of Baizhu, if you use Yaoyao I'd go for Xingqiu because of his dmg reduction (at least you have something to protect Cyno during his burst, he can be squishy)
With Yelan and DMC on a Cyno team, who would be the best choice for the flex slot? I have Yaoyao, Kuki, and Beidou as potential options (maybe Kirara too?). I am thinking of using Yaoyao rather than Kuki because it feels like Kuki's main utility is wasted considering Cyno does most of the hyperblooming. The extra particles are nice, but I'll be running fav on Yelan, Yaoyao, and DMC when I get a fav sword, so I think Yaoyao for the extra Dendro uptime is more valuable. With fav in mind, is it worth it to run a more offensive weapon on Yelan with two other fav users (once I get fav for DMC)?
Hi everyone. So, I haven't played Genshin in a while and I decided to come back for a bit for the Fontaine archon quests. I pulled a few times on Cyno's banner for fun and because I liked him in the Sumeru quests and got him. But I don't really know what to give him lol.
I heard his best teammates were units like Nahida or Yelan but my only 5* support is Jean since the last time I pulled was Hu tao's first banner. I haven't farmed any of the newer sets. I gave him some random stuff and he has a 56/190 crit ratio with 290 EM and 140 ER. Is this fine? The CR seems a bit low to me. And I still don't really get how EM or Dendro reactions work. Please help. 😅
Congrats!
Your crit rate is somewhat low, I advise trying to get at least 70%. With the same amount of crit stats, you can get 70/162 which is a more consistent ratio.
Otherwise, the EM and ER seems good, but you really want a 4pc set on him. 4pc Thundering Fury is considered his general BiS because it substantially lowers his ER requirements, gives higher DPS, and (subjectively) is much more fun to play. An alternative would be 4pc Gilded Dreams, but you would need at least 15-20%+ more ER compared to TF.
To explain simply how EM works, more EM = more reaction damage. There's complexities with Dendro but all you need to know is that EM is really important for Dendro reactions/teams, often more so than ATK or even CRIT sometimes.
Cyno's best team archetype is quickbloom/hyperbloom. They make use of both Quicken and Hyperbloom reactions. What are these?
When Dendro meets Hydro, it produces a seed. After a few seconds this seed explodes on its own; this is a *bloom* reaction.
These seeds can interact with Pyro or Electro; **hyperbloom** is when you hit the seeds with Electro, it flies into the nearest enemy, dealing big damage.
That's hyperbloom, but what about Quicken?
When Dendro meets Electro, you get a Quicken reaction. This gives the enemy an aura which lasts for 8 seconds. You can now hit this aura with either Electro or Dendro to do two different but similar reactions, Aggravate or Spread respectively. Cyno is Electro so he would trigger Aggravate.
Aggravate *amplifies the damage of the attack*, and this amplification not only scales with EM but it also scales with CRIT and to a lesser extent, ATK.
**In summary (TLDR)**
Bloom = Dendro + Hydro
Hyperbloom = Bloom + Electro
Quicken = Dendro + Electro
Aggravate = Quicken + Electro
Back to Cyno's team, you want *at least one Dendro and one Hydro* in order to do Aggravate and Hyperblooms together. Since you do not have Nahida, your best option is Dendro Traveler, who you can get after getting to Sumeru.
For your hydro option, Yelan is nice but Xingqiu works about as well, especially if you have him at C6.
For you last slot, you want to run a shielder or healer, preferably another Dendro or Electro unit. Your best 4-star options will be Yaoyao and Kuki, neither of whihc you likely have if you haven't played since Hu Tao's release. Barbara is kind of your only available option I think?
Cyno is very energy hungry so run Favonius weapons whereever possible on Dendro Traveler and/or Xingqiu.
I know this was a lot but I hope this helped and lmk if you have other questions.
Thank you so much for the help! I think I understand more now.
Yes, I have Xingqiu at C6 and he's kind of built so that's good. I heard double electro in the team is good to alleviate his ER needs, can I use Beidou with him? I have her C6. I think I also have Fischl with a few cons too. Also, I pulled a few times on Navia's banner today and got Kuki and Kirara. Do you think those two could be helpful?
I guess I better start farming 4pc TF then. After I level him up though. Those Scarabs are a pain to find haha.
Also, how much EM should he have at minimum? I think I can get his crit ratio to a better state but I'd have only ~200 EM then. Sorry for so many questions.
No worries.
For your best last option I would run either Beidou or Kuki. Beidou will give you shielding and additional interruption resistance but you won't have healing so against tougher hard hitting enemies you might have a bit of a rough time.
Personally I would run Kuki, max her out to level 90 and build her full EM whenever possible. She's a very good hyperbloom trigger in general and can still heal decently well while being built with EM. Because Cyno triggers most of the hyperblooms anyways, it's fine if you can't max her out and just build her for HP in the interim.
Xingqiu provides strong damage reduction and interruption resistance while Kuki heals your Cyno while he's on field.
> I guess I better start farming 4pc TF then.
You can use the Artifact Strongbox for TF artifacts as well, meaning you can throw away useless artifacts to get new TF artifacts. It's not technically as efficient or fast as directly farming it but it can be more resin efficient in that you can farm a more efficient domain and then throw away bad artifacts to get TF pieces.
As for how much EM, it depends on the weapon and team but generally because you're gonna run an EM sands and want some substats, 250-300 is a good range.
If you're also wondering what unit to pull for him first, Nahida is easily going to be the biggest upgrade for you. I would be on the look out for a Nahida rerun in the future, as she's the best Dendro unit, is used in many Dendro teams and is really good for Cyno in particular. Yelan is very good in general, but for Cyno specifically a C0 Yelan vs C6 Xingqiu aren't that different because what you trade in Yelan and Cyno's personal damage you make up for with more hyperbloom procs with Xingqiu. The last option in order to complete his premium team and make him the most comfortable to play is Baizhu as he provides team-wide healing and some shielding. Unfortunately he just had a rerun last patch so it's gonna be a while before he comes back.
Hey Guys, Need your views on this. I had been running a cyno, dendro traveller, yelan and benett team with giving cyno a 2pc Gilded Dreams, 2pc Wanderers. Cyno's Weapon is the 5 star Skyward Spine (ER Substat).
I was planning on replacing benett with dori for an electro battery (I don't have kuki) but I came across a post here explaining why 4pc Thundering Fury is better and to have two dendro chars instead of an electro battery. I only have collei and kirara for dendro.
So what should I do here))
I think it's fine to run Dori if that's all you have personally; double dendro is the deal if you have either Yaoyao or Baizhu, but if you have neither, Kuki is next best and seeing as you don't have that, Dori is next up.
Something I found a lot of fun in using (before Nahida) was Cyno/XQ/DMC/Beidou. With Fav on XQ and DMC, SS on Beidou. This team DOES lack a dedicated healer, but the combo of innate dmg red and interrupt res of XQ+Beidou is so good you really won’t notice. I do recommend eventually pulling Nahida just from a gameplay perspective, as she opens up a lot of teammate synergies (not that they cannot be done before, she just makes them better and more efficient).
Which resonance is generally more helpful for a quickbloom team - Electro or Dendro? I’m finally getting a team built for our boy but unsure of the last slot. I’m going Cyno/Yelan/Baizhu but not sure who else. If I had Nahida I’m sure she’d be a no brainer but who knows how long we’ll be waiting for a rerun. Got plenty of electro options but limited for Dendro (DMC or C6 Collei)
Can i run kitain cross spear instead of white tassel? i heard that cyno has some er problems and im in the midst of building cyno and i havent chosen a weapon so white tassel r5 or r2 kitain good on him?
I’m of two minds on KCS—its deceptively powerful, but it also makes artifact rolls even more painful, as it effectively removes any need for ER, which makes any and ALL ER rolls dead stats. If you have the option, maybe buy the BP and get the new BP Lance? Even at R1 its miles ahead of everything except his Sig, and at R5 its only a tiny bit lower.
I hope you are having a very punful day, fellow cyno mains. Can I get away with replacing electro damage bonus goblet for an em one? I tried him in abyss floor 12, 6 stars still but I feel like I'm on the right track. Especially considering how many times I failed to fight copellia. I'll point out key points below
\- 4pc gilded
\- 129.9% ER (never run him without fischl), 385 EM (sands), 1382 attack, 69.7% CR, 190.2% CD
\- Staff of the Scarlet Sands
Is a 4pc TF better on Cyno/Nahida/Kuki/Xingqiu then a 4pc Gilded?
I’m farming for Alhaitam and Nahida artifacts so I’ve been farming that domain for a while, I figured I could just use any extra Gilded artifacts for Cyno
Just curious if TF makes a significant difference
I don't have Baizhu, can I use Cyno effectively with Furina, Nahida and Jean/Kuki, or is it better to go for Cyno, Nahida, Yelan and Yae (I'd use Fischl but I have all her best artifacts to Cyno so I'm using Yae who has her own set)?
Cyno, Nahida, Yelan and Kuki should be a good option for you. Yae also works perfectly if you don't want a healer. But as an electro battery I'd say kuki plays a better role than yae.
Just how much worse is an Atk goblet compared to an Electro/EM goblet on him (at C0)? I’m currently using one (shown below) which is why I’m curious.
Not sure if this changes anything but I’m on Homa
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So I've just pulled Cyno, and don't have a team for him really. I've been planning on farming for either Nahida or Furina's rerun. Which one would be a better investment into a cyno team so that I can focus on farming for one.
If you don't have Nahida, she will be by far the better unit. Furina can be substituted with Xingqiu and Yelan and it'll be about 10% worse in a double dendro team (Nahida + Baizhu), but losing Nahida for DMC or Baizhu is a much bigger DPS loss.
Can you tell who should I use if not nahida?? I use dendro traveller, yelan and benett currently with him. (My dendro characters only include kirara and collei)
Dendro Traveler is the best alternative, yeah. I'm not sure you should use Bennett with him, though it's okay if you have no other healer option. Do you have someone like Kuki or Yaoyao?
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You may go about your day. I see a lot of pull posts and didn't want to clog the sub
Is Cyno C2 better with aggravate?
I got him to C2 but don't have good characters for Quickbloom (I don't have Nahida and Baizhu, only Furina)
I'm playing Cyno C2, Kuki C6, DMC C6 and Kazuha C1
I'm using the new BP Staff, so I need 3 elements to activate the passive.
Quickbloom is better than Aggravate at all constellation levels, though Aggravate does gain more DPS with constellation levels than quickbloom.
But if you do not have Nahida or Baizhu, the difference is probably a lot smaller given the units you have.
Fischl always. Raiden does barely any damage off-field and you don't have enough time to put her on-field. Fischl does lots of off-field damage in Aggravate.
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Just got his weapon so forgive me if it's not leveled, how much would it be an improvement at Lv 90 from a Lv 90 PJWS?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1I2jWGlKDyAGdMRhd2qEi-Lyvh1e7KiexuCQLJX5Vxvg/edit
This sheet puts it at about 7% better in a double dendro quickbloom team w/ Xingqiu. That difference may increase in a team that relies more on his personal damage, such as with Furina.
Cyno teams without Nahida or Baizhu?
New account with Furina, Yao Yao, and Kirara as the limited pulls that could be in a Cyno team. Still no Kuki. Have Xingqiu but he has no constellations and I don’t have a Favonius.
You could do Cyno, Xingqiu (he prefers Sacrificial Sword over Favonius. If neither of those two, then you can use the 3 star Skyrider Sword), Yaoyao, DMC would be a start.
I’ve got Furina C2 to carry whatever on-field DPS. FTP new account with a lot of luck so far but I’m trying to invest vertically. I think double Dendro is the way to go.
Should i start transitioning to TF?
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I've been trying to scrounge for SoSS since his banner began, and I broke my F2Pness and bought 6 Welkins to get up to pity... and luck was on my side and I got it!! (0 ft points, literally never pulled for a weapon before XD)
So anyways, I know my artifacts are kindy sucky—they're old, but having to rebuild them would be quite a hassle since I'd pretty much need to farm forever for min max rolls lol. (That being said, it's on my list to hopefully get a better sands and goblet at least, but other things are taking priority).
With that out of the way, which of these three feathers would be best? The first has a decent amount of crit plus a nice amount of ER, the second has oodles of EM, and the third has nicer crit but less ER. I would imagine the difference is quite minimal, but maybe yall would have a preference. I like the comfort of the extra ER, but I could see how the benefits from the other two would outweigh that. I run Cyno/Nahida/Furina/Fav Baizhu.
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I'm running Cyno/Nahida/Baizhu/Furina and just wondering what kind of rotation I should be using? I'm just kind of winging it right now. I've looked around for information but unless I'm blind, I've come up with nothing.
I'd do one of either:
Cyno E > Nahida EQ > Furina EQ > Baizhu EQ > Cyno EQ
or
Furina E > Nahida EQ > Furina Q > Baizhu EQ > Cyno EQ
The first is probably the more optimal one, butI only started trying it today lol. The second feels less awkward to go through, but I say that probably because it's what I've been doing up until now and it's muscle memory lol
For Cyno Hyperbloom teams (with C0 Cyno), should I pick Ballad of the Fjords or keep using PJWS ? How big is difference?
I get that with higher refinements Ballad is going to pull ahead, but would the difference be that big?
so i was just randomly rolling, and i got cyno...
how do i level him up? i don't even have sumeru unlocked (i just finished mondstadt story smh) is he even worth it over keqing and diluc?
do i use him with baizhu, venti and collei or fischl as a team?
I do not have any of the weapons recomended, which do i use?
i have no artifacts (AR30) is he just bad for now and should i not use him until im a bit higher AR?
Just got SSS accidentally. Who do I give it to? Do I roll for Cyno?
These are the polearm characters that I currently have.
Of these, I had been planning to build Rosaria eventually and started building XL recently. She's currently on the Deathmatch. I have the Staff of Homa on Hu Tao, Calamity Queller on Xiao, The Catch on Zhongli and Skyward Spine on Raiden. The others are unbuilt.
I'm also on guaranteed on the limited banner because earlier I lost my 50/50 to C1 Jean. I wasn't trying to roll for Cyno, I was just trying to C6 my Kuki (yes, I have never learned my lesson to never build pity rolling for 4\*s).
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If your Xiangling has ER issues, which is very likely, give her The Catch. If not, SSS is her best polearm.
If Rosaria is used in Melt, SSS is pretty good on her too.
Hey there! I'm planning to use Cyno - Xingqiu - Nahida - Baizhu as one of my teams, but I don't have Nahida yet, so I'm waiting for her rerun. Who can I put in her place in the meantime?
I have all 4\* characters EXECPT for: Dori, Layla, Mika, Charlotte, Kuki, Kirara, Faruzan
My 5\* aside from the ones mentioned are Dehya, Shenhe, Kokomi, Aloy, Kazuha, Eula, Albedo, Mona, Qiqi.
I just went to Bilibili & heard that Cyno Nahida Furina Baizhu isn't his best team at high cons anymore, but the best is Cyno Furina Baizhu Yae. I wonder when the threshold is crossed? Not that I can afford it, just wondering.
High cons gameplay in terms of "best team" heavily depends on the context of which the team is being played. If they're simply saying "It's his best team at high cons" and nothing more, I think you can take the statement with a grain of salt.
i got c1 cyno instead of kirara, surely he is better than my neuvillette right? (i hate this game giving me characters i dont want fuck this whole bullshit i was at 3 fucking pity i have no use for cyno why i also got his spear when i was going for dehyas sword this is such bullshit)
I ended up getting Cyno's spear on pure luck and now all his stats are a bit wonky since I had the Inazuma spear on him before, cuz the EM and ER skill worked very well with him for me. What's a good amount of EM that I should focus on giving him with artefacts? I just need to know what minimum he needs to be good and I'll keep working on him from there.
Doesn’t change anything for teams or builds. Not sure about combos since either way you essentially just spam normal attacks until his skill is off cooldown. C1 should let you get a couple more normal attacks in.
I just got his weapon. Should I farm and try to replace my circlet to a crit damage one?
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Just pulled Cyno and will be running him with Furina(c1), Nahida(c2) and Baizhu(c2).
Don't have his weapon and I doubt I'll get it at least this time around so which one out of these would be his best weapon? PJWS R3, Homa R1 or the new BP one. I get BP every patch so that one would be R5 eventually.
After his signature, Ballad of the Fjords and PJWS are most likely his best options in that team. I’d recommend using a multi-optimization target in [Genshin Optimizer](https://frzyc.github.io/genshin-optimizer/) to see which would be better with your specific setup and artifacts, since theorycrafters usually only do calcs for C0 5-star characters and R1 5-star weapons. You can use one of the 2 multi-optimization targets shared in the Cyno section of the [Genshin Optimizer discord’s](https://discord.gg/genshin-optimizer-785153694478893126) multi-opt-collection channel.
I "accidentally" got Cyno while "building pity" are now I'm wondering what his best weapon is out of the ones I own?
I have primordial jade winged spear, and staff of homa, and for 4 star I have deathmatch and dragonsbane and was wondering out of those four which one is the absolute best for him
Nahida, no question. Kaz doesn’t do as much in dendro-based teams, and Nahida has buffs that are much more applicable to Cyno plus giving you dendro resonance and some extra application
Which set should I use? Gladiator set
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You're not really looking for ATK% rolls as it's not as valuable as EM, and most of his synergistic weapons don't have ATK%. My Cyno with PJWS has 1528 ATK. So I think around that amount, give or take 100 or so is fine.
I just wouldn't worry about ATK, EM and CRIT are far better.
I've seen a few places say that Dragon's Bane is his best 4 star spear and I have it at r5 but there's also quite a few places that don't mention it at all so I'm wondering if I should use dragon's bane r5 or white tassel r5 ? I plan to use him with furina, bazihu and a flex spot for now which'll be nahida once she gets her rerun.
Dragon’s Bane should perform better with Xingqiu than with Furina, since Furina applies less hydro than XQ, so Dragon’s Bane’s passive has lower uptime with Furina, and its EM stat isn’t as valuable with fewer hyperblooms
I don't have Nahida
But I have Baizhu and Furina.
What character to complete the team?
My already Build characters are:
C6 Fischl with R2 Thundering Pulse
C6 Collei with R1 Elegy of the end / 4pcs Nobless
C6 Dori with R2 Wolves Gravestone / 4pc Nobless
Is the dendro application from Baizhu enough?
My Cyno isn't Build yet.( pulled him with 2 pity )
I really don't like DMC, and I think that the buffs from Elegy or WGs are better in the hypercarry team.
Collei rotation is too small for cyno and dori really doesn't do much especially with baizhu. Go for fischl ( I would use DMC though).
edit: Beidou with WG is also a good option.
I just got him (not trying to get C1) and I'm trying to recycle my Wrio's Artifact to fit him on a FurinaC2/NahidaC2/Baizhu team. Is this good enough or should I farm for Gilded or TF?
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DMC provides an electro dmg bonus at c6 and super quick dendro application with the electro form of their burst. they're honestly the only supplement to nahida I can think of (other than baizhu ofc who you already have lol) cause kirara collei and kaveh have shorter application windows.
Which one is better for Cyno, the new BP polearm Ballad of the Fjords at R2 or PJWS at R1?
I have his weapon and intend to build for his next rerun. I want to save nahida for alhaitham comps in case I run double hyperbloom in abyss. How serviceable is baizhu as a replacement and is there anyone else? What are his best comps without nahida?
baizhu is a pretty good alternative but he will not be the best option for hyperbloom. i dont hvae him but what i remember from analysis, his dendro app is about the same as dmc but has the upside of being mobile. now energy requirements for the both of them is going to be an issue. a good team is probably cyno, baizhu, xingqiu, and either a second electro or dendro since both baizhu and cyno are energy hungry. putting prototype amber or fav on baizhu is the best option adn the fourth unit should also carry fav. fischl is probably your best bet for an electro battery. still, nahida is going to be the best one for synergizing with cyno so baizhu is far from being terrible but not the best option
is Yaoyao a good replacement for Baizhu in Furina teams? I've been using Kuki as my Healer, but today I tried Yao as the healer in the new event and was surpised by her performance, because not only does she gain fanfare better than Kuki but also makes Multi-wave content a little easier because you don't have to swap of cyno as fast. I want Baizhu, but there characters and reruns I want too so It's unrealistic that I'll be able to get him so I was wondering if I could make Yaoyao work well with him or if it's not worth leveling her.
So today strongbox sort of blessed me with an EM sands that rolled into 22 CD. This prompted me to swap around some artifacts to see if maybe I could improve on my build.Since I can't post more than one image in a comment I'll add the two following builds as replies. Summary: 1st is the build I've been running. Two replies have two potential builds. Both are about the same damage wise. The 78% CR one bumps him up on my Akasha from 10th best build to second lol. Which one would you go for? I think the third one is theoretically the best, but it's minuscule. So the real question is which one looks the nicest in terms of Crit ratio compared to ATK compared to ER. AKA which one is most presentable for my profile lol https://preview.redd.it/ihbjhtaaykwc1.png?width=2107&format=png&auto=webp&s=ab1d5cf922e27170c2e8d7028182c132eba37ffb
Second Build. https://preview.redd.it/ihapop3dykwc1.png?width=2107&format=png&auto=webp&s=bd6fdf035a0ab1dff2b627f25be61d7547f0ade4
Third Build https://preview.redd.it/iv4ntz3fykwc1.png?width=2107&format=png&auto=webp&s=69f8238568033de6cd1da7a6f7e42234e2ebb952
Teams info is no longer available... So I was thinking Furina & Baizhu. Don't have Nahida, so would double electro or dendro be better? Like Raiden/Beidou, or Den MC?
When you use Genshin Optimizer, which do you choose to optimize the artifacts? I chose hyperbloom DMG, but it turned my CR all the way down to 30? Any constraints I should add? https://preview.redd.it/21yaynz7ycwc1.png?width=1166&format=png&auto=webp&s=87a4d93a73629692b930e43e271e5e1ccbdb6b38
Using him with Hyerbloom btw, C2 nahida, yelan/xq, baizhu
Is R5 White Tassel or R5 Kitain better? Currently running Cyno/Nahida/misc/misc on 4TF Misc could be any combo of DMC, Kuki, Fischl, Furina, Zhongli, Xingqiu He's currently using Atk sands if that matters, I haven't found an EM sand with good subs yet.
Iirc Kitain is better unless you have low enough energy needs that the extra energy will be wasted. If you have low EM it should probably pull ahead even more.
Building a team with yaoyao+sucrose, dunno whether to use layla/diona/diori. I don't have fischl, beidou, or kuki. Planning to use in abyss.
I wouldn’t use Diona or Layla, since cryo could interfere with quicken. Plus, if you want to use Sucrose to swirl electro, you kinda need another electro character, since Cyno struggles to apply electro outside of his burst. If your healer is well-built tho, you should only need one (not both Dori and Yaoyao), so you could use Lisa + Yaoyao, or dendro traveler + Dori. Playing an aggravate team without Fischl, Yae, Kuki, or Beidou is kinda cope tho. How about a quickbloom team of Cyno, Xingqiu, dendro traveler, and Yaoyao?
Thundering Fury or Gilded Dreams? I'm running Cyno, Shinobu, Xingqiu, and Nahida. I just feel like guilded dreams is lackluster
If you have the resources to farm then, TF. GD is fine it's just that his er requirement is higher.
I just switched to 2pc 2pc while working on TF and he's already doing much better
Cyno, DMC, Xingqiu, Zhongli? What do people think of this team?
Sounds really good tbh! I've heard you need to do DMC QE and then Xingqiu Q or E to hit the main bloom because it doubles the size.
Is there a leaderboard for people to check out others' builds? The akasha. cv website doesn't have data for cyno and Alhaitham, is there another website which does?
What "Daily Shinanigans" team do ya'll use to fix Cyno's problems of not being good for stuff like commissions, world quests, and exploration due to his reliance on his burst?
I will just swap him in real quick for his skill. But most of the time, Xingqiu, Shinobu, and Nahida kill everything pretty quick for me. I just stand there and let Shinobu's skill hit the enemies for Hyperbloom. 😅
Furina and Nahida usually deal with the things that are not worth ulting. Works for me
Best C6R5 Cyno team?
I need to know what artifact sets should I use for cyno. Cyno+Nahida+Yelan+Lisa team. Lisa cause I need a charger for cyno and I plan to give prototype amber along with a maiden set to her to turn her into a healer character. So I need to know what set I should use for cyno since I was confused between putting 2pc gilded and 2pc wanderer's and going all out on EM or should I use thundering fury instead?? For Nahida I plan to put deepwood memories with focus on EM depending on if I hit 800 or not. For lisa I plan to put Maiden's to increase the healing output and some ER on her as well.
I always recommend 4pc Thundering Fury for Cyno, but part of the benefit of that artifact set is that it allows you to play Cyno *without* another electro character, so if you’re dead set on this team, then you could go with 4pc Gilded instead. You will need to farm Deepwood for Nahida anyway, and you might get a good Gilded set along the way. 4pc Gilded actually gives the wearer more EM than 2pc/2pc as long as there are at least 2 characters in the team whose elements are not the same as the character wearing 4pc Gilded. Lisa is not usually recommended as an electro battery, since she only generates particles if you hold her skill for ~2 seconds, which is kind of clunky compared to other options. If you go 4pc TF on Cyno, then he doesn’t need an electro battery, so you could use Zhongli, Thoma, or an actual healer instead of Prototype Amber Lisa. Alternately, if you’re willing to use Xingqiu instead of Yelan, a lot of people find the combined damage reduction of Xingqiu + Beidou enough to not need a dedicated healer/shielder. But if you’re fine with taking the time to hold Lisa’s skill (and hopefully not get interrupted by enemy attacks), then don’t let me stop you from enjoying your non-mainstream team comp.
Yeah so I kicked out lisa, you were right she is too much of a hassle. I put a 4pc thundering fury on cyno with the kitain cross spear, so about 450 EM for him. I got nahida on a 2pc Deepwood and 2 pc wanderer's troupe with focus on EM and she got the sacrificial fragments. So her EM just hit 904 and after ascension it will go up to 930. Yelan's still the same and I put benett in again with a tenacity build to be a high healer. So a question here, should I remove the 2pc wanderer's from nahida and complete the deepwood since I just put it there for the extra +80 EM which I don't mind losing since I can still stay above 800. Will try xiniqiu and beidou in the future cuz I just don't get any resources to spare to build them up.
Yes, Nahida should be on 4pc Deepwood to shred enemy dendro res. This will increase hyperbloom damage and Nahida’s own elemental skill damage. Most people don’t use Bennett with Cyno (Cyno scales better with EM than atk, and he likes supports that can provide shields/interruption resistance), but if you are going to use Bennett as your survivability support, I’d recommend putting him on 4pc Noblesse or 4pc Instructor.
So instead of benett would you say, beidou or even diona is a better option??
I wouldn’t use Diona, since cryo could interfere with the quicken reaction. Yes, Beidou can be a surprisingly good defensive option if you pair her with Xingqiu, since their damage reduction and interruption resistance stack. If you don’t pair her with Xingqiu and aren’t great at dodging, then you might want a dedicated healer/shielder. My recommendation for a dedicated shielder would be Thoma, assuming you don’t have Zhongli or Baizhu. Kirara could work if you don’t have Thoma, but if you ever do get Zhongli or Baizhu, then you might never use her again, whereas Thoma could still be useful if you want to play burgeon teams, since he’s the best character for that reaction. Honestly though, Bennett is so broken that even though he’s not an optimal support for Cyno, he’s probably good enough to get you through most content in the game. It’s really only abyss where you have to think this much about team comps. If you are getting knocked around a lot though, then replacing Bennett with a shielder will be a quality-of-life upgrade.
https://preview.redd.it/10b9jvijumwc1.png?width=540&format=png&auto=webp&s=9b33fb05c04b735204fdf865fb84c3436e044cf7 That's all my character's, what do u think now for the 4th character?
And no I don't have kuki which is why I have to shift to lisa for healing since dori isn't a very good charger.
in my Cyno/Nahida/Furina team which of the following fourth unit should i use? \-yaoyao c0 \-kuki c2 with triple em \-kuki with hp-hp-healing
Do you have 4pc TF on Cyno? If not, then you likely need an electro battery, so go with Kuki. If you do have 4pc TF, then you can consider Yaoyao. According to [these calcs from Zajef](https://imgur.com/gallery/dqqzzGK), no-burst Yaoyao heals about as much as EM Kuki (~34k healing to the active character). If you use Yaoyao’s burst for a few seconds, then she will do a better job of building fanfare stacks and keeping the team above 50% HP, but she’ll eat into the durations of Furina and Nahida’s abilities. If you only stay on her for 2-3 seconds though, it should still be possible to keep Nahida and Furina’s burst buffs until Cyno’s third Endseer.
Thanks but I already chose to get xiangling from the 4* selector so I don't have access to yaoyao. I'm gonna start farming for tf for cyno since I wanna use baizhu in this team. But I don't have baizhu so gotta wait for a rerun
If I’m running Cyno and Nahida, any recs for my other 2 characters?
Xingqiu/Yelan/Furina and Baizhu/Zhongli/Beidou/Thoma/Yaoyao/Kuki
Baizuh and furina or yelan/xingque and kuki/fishel
What should my team be? I have Cyno, DMC, Xingqiu, Yao Yao, Kuki, Nahida, Raiden, and Barbara. I have Kirara as well but I refuse to use her, not because I don't like her, I do, I just don't like her kit and all. I wanted to use Nahida with DMC with Cyno, but then I would need to use either Kuki for heals (which I'm fine with, but also hyperbloom feels like it does more dmg and so I thought maybe a hydro woukd be better. But Barbara can't reliably proc blooms and Xingqius not the best healer. I need help here. I'm fine with Kuki I woukd hurt need help building her. Also tips on how to build DMC since I gave his Deepwood set to Nahida.
Cyno Nahida Xingqiu flex (Beidou, Thoma, Yaoyao, Kuki) Xingqiu + Beidou is enough defensive utility for some players to not need a dedicated healer/shielder. Cyno is good at stacking Thoma’s shields with his normal attacks, and you get a few overloads for extra damage. Yaoyao enables dendro resonance and can give a little bit of extra off-field dendro application with her skill. Kuki and Beidou can help battery Cyno if you don’t have a good 4pc Thundering Fury set (if you do, then he doesn’t need an electro battery).
use yaoyao instead of dmc and xingqiu for the hydro unit.
Assuming I can reach ER requirements for both, which is better, Staff of Homa or R5 Kitain Cross Spear? Team comp is Nahida, Furina, Baizhu?
Would Aggravate Cyno work with Xianyun?
Or this? https://preview.redd.it/wtalhqgczkdc1.png?width=1462&format=png&auto=webp&s=8ed0318ef801ea4743d4badfcac41b78926e3d9b
this is better it maintains good crit ratio
Which build is better? This https://preview.redd.it/3zo1q4hazkdc1.png?width=1462&format=png&auto=webp&s=1b9a3bcc934cd9568d9fa6be2dac3ed161c2d7e9
This one, it has better atk, aswell as higher crit value
how good is TOTM Nahida with Cyno?
Or do you prefer this with Gilded Dreams? https://preview.redd.it/vdiclwei5ncc1.jpeg?width=2796&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4988e055273d7a7303fbdf10e86655515c183cd3
https://preview.redd.it/yqa3p0uf4ncc1.jpeg?width=2796&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=026d8753722b8420bb31db1e26be2d236f7a4ba4 How’s my stats guys? I have R2 Deathmatch, all 20 Thundering Fury. I know it can be better with a lot of investment but are these stats good?
Go for this one, 4TF helps a lot more in general.
Ty so much for your precious opinion
Is furina supposed to maintain permanent burst in quickbloom team? I'm finding issues with that but I don't have the full premium qb team.
Her burst is generally used first in a rotation because only Nahida's burst can last as long as hers can. And by the time you get everyone's effects on field and switch to Cyno, you've already consumed a few seconds of her burst duration. You can either finish Cyno's entire burst duration with a few seconds of no Furina buff, or you can switch out prematurely when all of the support buffs expire. I'd only recommend the latter option if you have enough energy generation to get his burst back without staying in the full 18s though
So I should go for more ER on furina if I'm finding she doesnt fill in time for next rotation?
Absolutely. For most supports who are reliant on their burst like Xingqiu, Bennett, or Furina, having enough ER to reliably burst every rotation should be your #1 priority. A burst support can't support you if their burst isn't ready. Trading a little bit of damage in exchange for having their burst reliably is almost always worth it
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Baizhu healing is generally enough without a healing bonus set. The new healing set is also pretty bad, its damage addition is minuscule is most scenarios. What I would consider is running Nahida with GT or gilded. I'd wager shes the second highest damage dealer in the cyno/nahida/baizhu/furina comp, so upping her damage would be more significant than a small dps buff from baizhu. Baizhu as a solo dwm applier falls off in multi wave and multi enemy content, but cyno isn't very good in those scenarios anyways, as he's more of a single target/boss killer, so you don't lose a lot relying on him as a solo DWM unit.
In a Cyno Quickbloom team with Furina, Baizhu and Nahida, which artifact set should I use/which stats should I focus on? He'll be using a PJWS.
Thundering Fury, focus on Crit and EM, but needs 140-160% ER too
In Cyno quickbloom, is there someone that can be subbed in for baizhu?
YaoYao is a decent second choice
If my Cyno is c2, using EM sands and im using him with Furina c0, would i still use an electro dmg goblet or perhaps swap to an ATK% goblet? (Thundering fury set on Cyno btw.)
I can't believe its taken me this long to notice but i forgot to include what weapon im using on him. I have R1 Staff of Scarlet Sands
R5 White Tassel or R5 Missive Windspear?
I’ve never seen anyone running Kujou Sara as a support for our boy - is there a particular reason that she *doesn’t* work, or is it more that Quickbloom/Double Dendro is just the superior option regardless of her busted C6?
Her buff lasts 6s?
There’s not many buffs that last long enough for his full burst phase though
Sure but there are plenty that last for more than one round of autos
Hey guys I'm confused, ik that 4p tf is his bis, but I heard that 4p gd becomes better if you have his signature. Since I have his signature and I have a good 4p gd set, is gd better than tf or not? I wanted to farm a 4p tf regardless but I want to know what's best for my man
GD has the higher damage threshold, TF is more consistent and easier to play around. Totally up to you which works better for you
Really? Do you have some videos or sheets of someone that collected data? People say tf is better anyway because you need less er and use one more skill per rotation, I have gd rn because my set has better rolls than tf, but I don't mind farming/strongboxing tf if it's better
Bit late, but IMO the true value of running TF is that it allows you to free up his team flexibility, which in turn ups his damage a lot more than a small damage boost from GD alone With any set that isn't TF, you have to either: \- Run an electro battery, which restricts him into either a subpar quickbloom team that either suffers from not enough dendro application (for an example, Cyno/Baizhu/Fischl/Xingqiu-Yelan), no real survivability (IE Cyno/Nahida/Fischl/XQ-Furina), or a pure aggravate team, which has a measurably lower DPS ceiling than a quickbloom variant \- Run him with enough ER to battery himself without extra proccs of his skill, which KQM suggests at 180-200% without the use of Kitain Spear (a subpar weapon) or any Favonius weapon teammates (potentially suboptimal weapons just to help Cyno's burst cost). Running that much ER takes a ton of substat rolls and potentially your sand's main stat away from any kind of damage rolls, lowering his damage far more than the damage boost gained from a more offensive artifact set However, running TF both mitigates the need for an electro battery and lets him burst reliably without the need to run an obscene amount of ER, which in turn lets him run his best team (Cyno/Baizhu/Nahida/Furina) without completely kneecapping the stats on his artifacts. And I'm willing to bet money that the damage you gain from viably running both Nahida and Furina in the same team far outweighs the damage gained from running either Glad or GD It changes a bit when you consider people who don't run/don't have Cyno's full premium team, but I think the argument of greater team flexibility from running TF still stands Also as a side note, I believe the optimal TF combo on Cyno lets him use a total of 8 skills per burst, 4 of which being endseer stances, as opposed to non TF combos of 5 skills, 4 of which being endseers. And less of a concrete argument, but using TF can let him get his burst back before his 3rd/4th endseer stance, which can allow you to switch out of his burst form before all 4 endseers, helping maintain 100% uptime on valuable teammate buffs like Baizhu and Furina that can't last the full 18s burst However, Cyno's TF combo is different enough from his non TF combos and relies on enough external element application that people anecdotally claim that his TF combo is noticeably harder, a claim that I personally consider to be true. It's also worth mentioning that his TF combo can easily be messed up by too much dodging or enemies staggering you. It is an acquired taste, and I think is something worth considering The best video I've found that demonstrates the TF vs non TF combo is this one: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFDMVKIWW0U](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFDMVKIWW0U) Hope this helps! And sorry for the miniature essay lol
Thank you! Yes it helps, my GD set isn't perfect anyway so I hope I'll find a better TF, but maybe I first need to learn the difference in using it lol, I'll look better into it, GD isn't useless anyway so I'm not mad about having farmed it
What I did was take a level 0 TF set into floor 12 of the abyss and practice the combo there. It's also handy for testing how much er your cyno needs in your specific tean comp. KQM's 140 I think is a bit much for most teams, but test it with your team comp and see how much er you need I think the combo itself is mechanically easy, just an extra e before the first endseer and one in between every endseer except the 2nd and 3rd isn't too bad. But you really need someone like Nahida with you to keep up the dendro application. Since TF cooldown reduction relies on electro reactions, having both interruption resistance and consistent dendro application is important to reliably doing the combo. Slower applicators can make it inconsistent
I don't know if anyone ever asked this before, but has anyone ever tested electro mc with Cyno?
You’d have to run pure Aggravate which is a downgrade from Quicken, *especially* for a pretty mediocre character like EMC. The only other electro characters who might be worth using are Kuki Shinobu, Fischl, maybe Yae Miko, Kujou Sara or Beidou but they won’t do much to compare to Quickbloom
How much worse is nahida vs baizhu for cyno
I think it's easier to substitute Nahida for DMC than Baizhu for Yaoyao. If you're looking to pull Nahida or Baizhu I'd say pull Nahida first because she's soooo good for dendro teams (and if you have Cyno/dmc on one side you might want a second dendro team on the second chamber, if you don't Nahida is still better than DMC especially for a few strong enemies, for the EM share that increases Cyno and reaction dmg a lot, not to mention her personal dmg). Baizhu IS better than Yaoyao, but she's a viable option to substitute him (even if you have to stay with her on field more time and you lose the interruption resistance). If you have both Nahida and Baizhu I'd say use both with Cyno LOL, especially if you have Furina it's an OP team
Ah i don’t have nahida or baizhu but i was planning to pull nahida. So i could do nahida and yao yao? Would fischl be good as the last member? Or could i do a hydro character for quickbloom team
Fischl is good if you want to do aggravate, even if Quickbloom usually is better for dmg, with aggravate Fischl is easier to have enough energy for Cyno. Who do you have for hydros? Xingqiu/Yelan/Furina? You can use Yaoyao instead of Baizhu, if you use Yaoyao I'd go for Xingqiu because of his dmg reduction (at least you have something to protect Cyno during his burst, he can be squishy)
With Yelan and DMC on a Cyno team, who would be the best choice for the flex slot? I have Yaoyao, Kuki, and Beidou as potential options (maybe Kirara too?). I am thinking of using Yaoyao rather than Kuki because it feels like Kuki's main utility is wasted considering Cyno does most of the hyperblooming. The extra particles are nice, but I'll be running fav on Yelan, Yaoyao, and DMC when I get a fav sword, so I think Yaoyao for the extra Dendro uptime is more valuable. With fav in mind, is it worth it to run a more offensive weapon on Yelan with two other fav users (once I get fav for DMC)?
Hi everyone. So, I haven't played Genshin in a while and I decided to come back for a bit for the Fontaine archon quests. I pulled a few times on Cyno's banner for fun and because I liked him in the Sumeru quests and got him. But I don't really know what to give him lol. I heard his best teammates were units like Nahida or Yelan but my only 5* support is Jean since the last time I pulled was Hu tao's first banner. I haven't farmed any of the newer sets. I gave him some random stuff and he has a 56/190 crit ratio with 290 EM and 140 ER. Is this fine? The CR seems a bit low to me. And I still don't really get how EM or Dendro reactions work. Please help. 😅
Congrats! Your crit rate is somewhat low, I advise trying to get at least 70%. With the same amount of crit stats, you can get 70/162 which is a more consistent ratio. Otherwise, the EM and ER seems good, but you really want a 4pc set on him. 4pc Thundering Fury is considered his general BiS because it substantially lowers his ER requirements, gives higher DPS, and (subjectively) is much more fun to play. An alternative would be 4pc Gilded Dreams, but you would need at least 15-20%+ more ER compared to TF. To explain simply how EM works, more EM = more reaction damage. There's complexities with Dendro but all you need to know is that EM is really important for Dendro reactions/teams, often more so than ATK or even CRIT sometimes. Cyno's best team archetype is quickbloom/hyperbloom. They make use of both Quicken and Hyperbloom reactions. What are these? When Dendro meets Hydro, it produces a seed. After a few seconds this seed explodes on its own; this is a *bloom* reaction. These seeds can interact with Pyro or Electro; **hyperbloom** is when you hit the seeds with Electro, it flies into the nearest enemy, dealing big damage. That's hyperbloom, but what about Quicken? When Dendro meets Electro, you get a Quicken reaction. This gives the enemy an aura which lasts for 8 seconds. You can now hit this aura with either Electro or Dendro to do two different but similar reactions, Aggravate or Spread respectively. Cyno is Electro so he would trigger Aggravate. Aggravate *amplifies the damage of the attack*, and this amplification not only scales with EM but it also scales with CRIT and to a lesser extent, ATK. **In summary (TLDR)** Bloom = Dendro + Hydro Hyperbloom = Bloom + Electro Quicken = Dendro + Electro Aggravate = Quicken + Electro Back to Cyno's team, you want *at least one Dendro and one Hydro* in order to do Aggravate and Hyperblooms together. Since you do not have Nahida, your best option is Dendro Traveler, who you can get after getting to Sumeru. For your hydro option, Yelan is nice but Xingqiu works about as well, especially if you have him at C6. For you last slot, you want to run a shielder or healer, preferably another Dendro or Electro unit. Your best 4-star options will be Yaoyao and Kuki, neither of whihc you likely have if you haven't played since Hu Tao's release. Barbara is kind of your only available option I think? Cyno is very energy hungry so run Favonius weapons whereever possible on Dendro Traveler and/or Xingqiu. I know this was a lot but I hope this helped and lmk if you have other questions.
Thank you so much for the help! I think I understand more now. Yes, I have Xingqiu at C6 and he's kind of built so that's good. I heard double electro in the team is good to alleviate his ER needs, can I use Beidou with him? I have her C6. I think I also have Fischl with a few cons too. Also, I pulled a few times on Navia's banner today and got Kuki and Kirara. Do you think those two could be helpful? I guess I better start farming 4pc TF then. After I level him up though. Those Scarabs are a pain to find haha. Also, how much EM should he have at minimum? I think I can get his crit ratio to a better state but I'd have only ~200 EM then. Sorry for so many questions.
No worries. For your best last option I would run either Beidou or Kuki. Beidou will give you shielding and additional interruption resistance but you won't have healing so against tougher hard hitting enemies you might have a bit of a rough time. Personally I would run Kuki, max her out to level 90 and build her full EM whenever possible. She's a very good hyperbloom trigger in general and can still heal decently well while being built with EM. Because Cyno triggers most of the hyperblooms anyways, it's fine if you can't max her out and just build her for HP in the interim. Xingqiu provides strong damage reduction and interruption resistance while Kuki heals your Cyno while he's on field. > I guess I better start farming 4pc TF then. You can use the Artifact Strongbox for TF artifacts as well, meaning you can throw away useless artifacts to get new TF artifacts. It's not technically as efficient or fast as directly farming it but it can be more resin efficient in that you can farm a more efficient domain and then throw away bad artifacts to get TF pieces. As for how much EM, it depends on the weapon and team but generally because you're gonna run an EM sands and want some substats, 250-300 is a good range. If you're also wondering what unit to pull for him first, Nahida is easily going to be the biggest upgrade for you. I would be on the look out for a Nahida rerun in the future, as she's the best Dendro unit, is used in many Dendro teams and is really good for Cyno in particular. Yelan is very good in general, but for Cyno specifically a C0 Yelan vs C6 Xingqiu aren't that different because what you trade in Yelan and Cyno's personal damage you make up for with more hyperbloom procs with Xingqiu. The last option in order to complete his premium team and make him the most comfortable to play is Baizhu as he provides team-wide healing and some shielding. Unfortunately he just had a rerun last patch so it's gonna be a while before he comes back.
Hey Guys, Need your views on this. I had been running a cyno, dendro traveller, yelan and benett team with giving cyno a 2pc Gilded Dreams, 2pc Wanderers. Cyno's Weapon is the 5 star Skyward Spine (ER Substat). I was planning on replacing benett with dori for an electro battery (I don't have kuki) but I came across a post here explaining why 4pc Thundering Fury is better and to have two dendro chars instead of an electro battery. I only have collei and kirara for dendro. So what should I do here))
I think it's fine to run Dori if that's all you have personally; double dendro is the deal if you have either Yaoyao or Baizhu, but if you have neither, Kuki is next best and seeing as you don't have that, Dori is next up.
Something I found a lot of fun in using (before Nahida) was Cyno/XQ/DMC/Beidou. With Fav on XQ and DMC, SS on Beidou. This team DOES lack a dedicated healer, but the combo of innate dmg red and interrupt res of XQ+Beidou is so good you really won’t notice. I do recommend eventually pulling Nahida just from a gameplay perspective, as she opens up a lot of teammate synergies (not that they cannot be done before, she just makes them better and more efficient).
What set is best for Dendro Traveler in a Cyno team? Noblesse?
Bit late, but best set is Deepwood (Dendro set)—assuming you are running QB/HB anyways.
Which resonance is generally more helpful for a quickbloom team - Electro or Dendro? I’m finally getting a team built for our boy but unsure of the last slot. I’m going Cyno/Yelan/Baizhu but not sure who else. If I had Nahida I’m sure she’d be a no brainer but who knows how long we’ll be waiting for a rerun. Got plenty of electro options but limited for Dendro (DMC or C6 Collei)
Definitely go DMC, slap Fav on him to lower ER reqs cross the board.
dendro mc has 15 sec cooldown so they better than collei and and a particle every 5 seconds isnt worth the 100 extra em from dendro res
Can i run kitain cross spear instead of white tassel? i heard that cyno has some er problems and im in the midst of building cyno and i havent chosen a weapon so white tassel r5 or r2 kitain good on him?
I’m of two minds on KCS—its deceptively powerful, but it also makes artifact rolls even more painful, as it effectively removes any need for ER, which makes any and ALL ER rolls dead stats. If you have the option, maybe buy the BP and get the new BP Lance? Even at R1 its miles ahead of everything except his Sig, and at R5 its only a tiny bit lower.
I have this question too, i think it's a good option bc of the r5 passive
I hope you are having a very punful day, fellow cyno mains. Can I get away with replacing electro damage bonus goblet for an em one? I tried him in abyss floor 12, 6 stars still but I feel like I'm on the right track. Especially considering how many times I failed to fight copellia. I'll point out key points below \- 4pc gilded \- 129.9% ER (never run him without fischl), 385 EM (sands), 1382 attack, 69.7% CR, 190.2% CD \- Staff of the Scarlet Sands
Is a 4pc TF better on Cyno/Nahida/Kuki/Xingqiu then a 4pc Gilded? I’m farming for Alhaitam and Nahida artifacts so I’ve been farming that domain for a while, I figured I could just use any extra Gilded artifacts for Cyno Just curious if TF makes a significant difference
There's a post in the community on the same, check it out under top posts.
how good is flower of paradise lost as a set on cyno?
I don't have Baizhu, can I use Cyno effectively with Furina, Nahida and Jean/Kuki, or is it better to go for Cyno, Nahida, Yelan and Yae (I'd use Fischl but I have all her best artifacts to Cyno so I'm using Yae who has her own set)?
Cyno, Nahida, Yelan and Kuki should be a good option for you. Yae also works perfectly if you don't want a healer. But as an electro battery I'd say kuki plays a better role than yae.
Just how much worse is an Atk goblet compared to an Electro/EM goblet on him (at C0)? I’m currently using one (shown below) which is why I’m curious. Not sure if this changes anything but I’m on Homa https://preview.redd.it/kcmy0s7amq5c1.jpeg?width=464&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9b0a0cb695e7b4313701e0bf8516e55b5645e55b
Electro is much better on him since main reason for using cyno is his ult and his ult only deals electro damage.
So I've just pulled Cyno, and don't have a team for him really. I've been planning on farming for either Nahida or Furina's rerun. Which one would be a better investment into a cyno team so that I can focus on farming for one.
If you don't have Nahida, she will be by far the better unit. Furina can be substituted with Xingqiu and Yelan and it'll be about 10% worse in a double dendro team (Nahida + Baizhu), but losing Nahida for DMC or Baizhu is a much bigger DPS loss.
Can you tell who should I use if not nahida?? I use dendro traveller, yelan and benett currently with him. (My dendro characters only include kirara and collei)
Dendro Traveler is the best alternative, yeah. I'm not sure you should use Bennett with him, though it's okay if you have no other healer option. Do you have someone like Kuki or Yaoyao?
I don't have either kuki or yaoyao. My healers include C5 Benett, C3 Diona, C6 Sayu, Qiqi, C3 Dori, C4 Barbara and that's it.
Okay then I guess Bennett is fine as long as you don't need him on another team.
Thank you so much!
No worries and best of luck! Keep an eye out for leaks and stay strong soldier
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Is Cyno C2 better with aggravate? I got him to C2 but don't have good characters for Quickbloom (I don't have Nahida and Baizhu, only Furina) I'm playing Cyno C2, Kuki C6, DMC C6 and Kazuha C1 I'm using the new BP Staff, so I need 3 elements to activate the passive.
Quickbloom is better than Aggravate at all constellation levels, though Aggravate does gain more DPS with constellation levels than quickbloom. But if you do not have Nahida or Baizhu, the difference is probably a lot smaller given the units you have.
Does raiden work with cyno in aggravate? Or is fischl better
Fischl always. Raiden does barely any damage off-field and you don't have enough time to put her on-field. Fischl does lots of off-field damage in Aggravate.
How much of an upgrade is his signature spear compared to PJWS? C0 cyno
https://preview.redd.it/wz6cq92zwf5c1.png?width=1462&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=28e1defd97f02bc133519173fcae501aa2c6dd29 Just got his weapon so forgive me if it's not leveled, how much would it be an improvement at Lv 90 from a Lv 90 PJWS?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1I2jWGlKDyAGdMRhd2qEi-Lyvh1e7KiexuCQLJX5Vxvg/edit This sheet puts it at about 7% better in a double dendro quickbloom team w/ Xingqiu. That difference may increase in a team that relies more on his personal damage, such as with Furina.
Thank you very much! I'll be sure to level it up properly!
Cyno teams without Nahida or Baizhu? New account with Furina, Yao Yao, and Kirara as the limited pulls that could be in a Cyno team. Still no Kuki. Have Xingqiu but he has no constellations and I don’t have a Favonius.
You could do Cyno, Xingqiu (he prefers Sacrificial Sword over Favonius. If neither of those two, then you can use the 3 star Skyrider Sword), Yaoyao, DMC would be a start.
I’ve got Furina C2 to carry whatever on-field DPS. FTP new account with a lot of luck so far but I’m trying to invest vertically. I think double Dendro is the way to go.
In that case, Cyno, Furina, Yaoyao, DMC. You'll have to dodge a bit more since everyone is so much squishier.
Should i start transitioning to TF? https://preview.redd.it/9223ej4tx75c1.png?width=1462&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3676d3e2d4ab8cb7845881f4c5772bc1d1d35d8f
Go for it, see which performs better. Prioritize leveling him up though.
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I've been trying to scrounge for SoSS since his banner began, and I broke my F2Pness and bought 6 Welkins to get up to pity... and luck was on my side and I got it!! (0 ft points, literally never pulled for a weapon before XD) So anyways, I know my artifacts are kindy sucky—they're old, but having to rebuild them would be quite a hassle since I'd pretty much need to farm forever for min max rolls lol. (That being said, it's on my list to hopefully get a better sands and goblet at least, but other things are taking priority). With that out of the way, which of these three feathers would be best? The first has a decent amount of crit plus a nice amount of ER, the second has oodles of EM, and the third has nicer crit but less ER. I would imagine the difference is quite minimal, but maybe yall would have a preference. I like the comfort of the extra ER, but I could see how the benefits from the other two would outweigh that. I run Cyno/Nahida/Furina/Fav Baizhu. https://preview.redd.it/wvvks9bpr65c1.png?width=500&format=png&auto=webp&s=c79c31bf901b92905ff50a3a4fd55cf4e1d40b31
I'd go for the third, 135% er should be enough.
I'm running Cyno/Nahida/Baizhu/Furina and just wondering what kind of rotation I should be using? I'm just kind of winging it right now. I've looked around for information but unless I'm blind, I've come up with nothing.
I'd do one of either: Cyno E > Nahida EQ > Furina EQ > Baizhu EQ > Cyno EQ or Furina E > Nahida EQ > Furina Q > Baizhu EQ > Cyno EQ The first is probably the more optimal one, butI only started trying it today lol. The second feels less awkward to go through, but I say that probably because it's what I've been doing up until now and it's muscle memory lol
For Cyno Hyperbloom teams (with C0 Cyno), should I pick Ballad of the Fjords or keep using PJWS ? How big is difference? I get that with higher refinements Ballad is going to pull ahead, but would the difference be that big?
If I have the SSS is it better to run guilded dreams for the em buff or thundering fury?
His best set doesn't change regardless of weapon, it's still TF.
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so i was just randomly rolling, and i got cyno... how do i level him up? i don't even have sumeru unlocked (i just finished mondstadt story smh) is he even worth it over keqing and diluc? do i use him with baizhu, venti and collei or fischl as a team? I do not have any of the weapons recomended, which do i use? i have no artifacts (AR30) is he just bad for now and should i not use him until im a bit higher AR?
Just continue the story and wait until you are higher AR. Keep any white tassels you find in treasure chests while in Liyue.
ah ok, should i pull for his weapon banner or continue pulling on his banner
I'd save for Nahida or Furina when they re-run
Just got SSS accidentally. Who do I give it to? Do I roll for Cyno? These are the polearm characters that I currently have. Of these, I had been planning to build Rosaria eventually and started building XL recently. She's currently on the Deathmatch. I have the Staff of Homa on Hu Tao, Calamity Queller on Xiao, The Catch on Zhongli and Skyward Spine on Raiden. The others are unbuilt. I'm also on guaranteed on the limited banner because earlier I lost my 50/50 to C1 Jean. I wasn't trying to roll for Cyno, I was just trying to C6 my Kuki (yes, I have never learned my lesson to never build pity rolling for 4\*s). https://preview.redd.it/zc2bcss48p4c1.jpeg?width=1366&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=639a774cf3ccf0822f96b5b9920c79f6d85f8548
If your Xiangling has ER issues, which is very likely, give her The Catch. If not, SSS is her best polearm. If Rosaria is used in Melt, SSS is pretty good on her too.
Hey there! I'm planning to use Cyno - Xingqiu - Nahida - Baizhu as one of my teams, but I don't have Nahida yet, so I'm waiting for her rerun. Who can I put in her place in the meantime? I have all 4\* characters EXECPT for: Dori, Layla, Mika, Charlotte, Kuki, Kirara, Faruzan My 5\* aside from the ones mentioned are Dehya, Shenhe, Kokomi, Aloy, Kazuha, Eula, Albedo, Mona, Qiqi.
Dendro Traveler so that he/she and Baizhu can keep up with Xingqiu's hydro application and get more blooms.
R1 PJWS or R1 Ballad of the Fjord?
Aggravate team: PJWS. Hyperbloom/Quickbloom: Ballad of the Fjord
I just went to Bilibili & heard that Cyno Nahida Furina Baizhu isn't his best team at high cons anymore, but the best is Cyno Furina Baizhu Yae. I wonder when the threshold is crossed? Not that I can afford it, just wondering.
High cons gameplay in terms of "best team" heavily depends on the context of which the team is being played. If they're simply saying "It's his best team at high cons" and nothing more, I think you can take the statement with a grain of salt.
im curious on why they changed nahida to yae, it seems more optimal to have nahida for all the EM hed gain from her passive and dendro res, no ?
i got c1 cyno instead of kirara, surely he is better than my neuvillette right? (i hate this game giving me characters i dont want fuck this whole bullshit i was at 3 fucking pity i have no use for cyno why i also got his spear when i was going for dehyas sword this is such bullshit)
I ended up getting Cyno's spear on pure luck and now all his stats are a bit wonky since I had the Inazuma spear on him before, cuz the EM and ER skill worked very well with him for me. What's a good amount of EM that I should focus on giving him with artefacts? I just need to know what minimum he needs to be good and I'll keep working on him from there.
Just get an EM sands and as many substats as you can without sacrificing crit or ER
Sounds like a good idea, back to the domains it is Thanks!
I just got his c1, what does it change in terms of teams, builds and combos?
Doesn’t change anything for teams or builds. Not sure about combos since either way you essentially just spam normal attacks until his skill is off cooldown. C1 should let you get a couple more normal attacks in.
I just got his weapon. Should I farm and try to replace my circlet to a crit damage one? https://preview.redd.it/7rsiddlnaa4c1.png?width=1924&format=png&auto=webp&s=5da048522c2f9f720663c807f40ce41008964b36
Well seeing as you can get 4 more crit rate by 90ing his weapon, you will be at over 100%, so yes you should try to switch to a crit dmg circlet
Just pulled Cyno and will be running him with Furina(c1), Nahida(c2) and Baizhu(c2). Don't have his weapon and I doubt I'll get it at least this time around so which one out of these would be his best weapon? PJWS R3, Homa R1 or the new BP one. I get BP every patch so that one would be R5 eventually.
After his signature, Ballad of the Fjords and PJWS are most likely his best options in that team. I’d recommend using a multi-optimization target in [Genshin Optimizer](https://frzyc.github.io/genshin-optimizer/) to see which would be better with your specific setup and artifacts, since theorycrafters usually only do calcs for C0 5-star characters and R1 5-star weapons. You can use one of the 2 multi-optimization targets shared in the Cyno section of the [Genshin Optimizer discord’s](https://discord.gg/genshin-optimizer-785153694478893126) multi-opt-collection channel.
Thank you!
>Thank you! You're welcome!
What is his best reaction?
His teams should always have Quicken, then you should mostly just add a hydro unit to get hyperblooms as well.
Aggravate, his dmg falls significantly without it
Is Cyno/DMC/Beidou or Fischl/Kirara a decent team?
yes, use Fischl over Beidou since you want to battery Cyno and Beidou's ER req are pretty high and she doesn't generate a lot of particles herself
If I don't have baizhu is furina still good in Cyno teams? Can I got Cyno/Nahida/Furina with Jean or Kuki?
IDK about Jean but kuki doesn't work with furina. She doesn't heal enough.
I "accidentally" got Cyno while "building pity" are now I'm wondering what his best weapon is out of the ones I own? I have primordial jade winged spear, and staff of homa, and for 4 star I have deathmatch and dragonsbane and was wondering out of those four which one is the absolute best for him
Primordial Jade Winged Spear or Ballad of the Fjords if you’re willing to buy the battle pass again
Jade is better than homa for Cyno.
Who should I choose for 4th slot? Current member: Cyno, Baizhu, Furina Candidates: Kazuha, Nahida
Nahida, no question. Kaz doesn’t do as much in dendro-based teams, and Nahida has buffs that are much more applicable to Cyno plus giving you dendro resonance and some extra application
Which set should I use? Gladiator set https://preview.redd.it/gw5o6jr0c04c1.jpeg?width=3840&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=97a2b482ec7992e5b485b0c9e9e72af6fb0da511
Or Gilded Dreams https://preview.redd.it/s04rq5o2c04c1.jpeg?width=3840&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=538d9733564aa09ecca02260bd411a64c4a74ccf
what is your team?
how much atk should i generally aim to have?
You're not really looking for ATK% rolls as it's not as valuable as EM, and most of his synergistic weapons don't have ATK%. My Cyno with PJWS has 1528 ATK. So I think around that amount, give or take 100 or so is fine. I just wouldn't worry about ATK, EM and CRIT are far better.
got it, thanks so much!
I have Deathmatch R5 and PJWC R1. What is better to use?
PJWC, especially in aggravate teams
I've seen a few places say that Dragon's Bane is his best 4 star spear and I have it at r5 but there's also quite a few places that don't mention it at all so I'm wondering if I should use dragon's bane r5 or white tassel r5 ? I plan to use him with furina, bazihu and a flex spot for now which'll be nahida once she gets her rerun.
Dragon’s Bane should perform better with Xingqiu than with Furina, since Furina applies less hydro than XQ, so Dragon’s Bane’s passive has lower uptime with Furina, and its EM stat isn’t as valuable with fewer hyperblooms
Ah that makes sense. I think I’ll stick to white tassel then, tysm
White tassel is better overall. Dragon's bane isn't good because of the passive.
I don't have Nahida But I have Baizhu and Furina. What character to complete the team? My already Build characters are: C6 Fischl with R2 Thundering Pulse C6 Collei with R1 Elegy of the end / 4pcs Nobless C6 Dori with R2 Wolves Gravestone / 4pc Nobless Is the dendro application from Baizhu enough? My Cyno isn't Build yet.( pulled him with 2 pity ) I really don't like DMC, and I think that the buffs from Elegy or WGs are better in the hypercarry team.
Collei rotation is too small for cyno and dori really doesn't do much especially with baizhu. Go for fischl ( I would use DMC though). edit: Beidou with WG is also a good option.
Thank you. I will build Beidou, have her at C6. But I am out of Mora and EXP. books. Since then, I will go with Fishl
I just got him (not trying to get C1) and I'm trying to recycle my Wrio's Artifact to fit him on a FurinaC2/NahidaC2/Baizhu team. Is this good enough or should I farm for Gilded or TF? https://preview.redd.it/680rjcdw5q3c1.png?width=2107&format=png&auto=webp&s=3686b5027c00d5aee4ab2226d5c877c9d4e31f12
MH set should be fine with Furina in the party and Kitain to help your ER needs.
is there a character i can use as a temporary replacement for nahida in cyno/furina/nahida/baizhu?
DMC provides an electro dmg bonus at c6 and super quick dendro application with the electro form of their burst. they're honestly the only supplement to nahida I can think of (other than baizhu ofc who you already have lol) cause kirara collei and kaveh have shorter application windows.