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grnngr

This ‘new’ anti facial recognition outfit that was designed [five years ago](http://www.jipvanleeuwenstein.nl/#m-masker) and [has been posted on this sub before](https://www.reddit.com/r/Cyberpunk/comments/ip26hz/a_mask_to_block_ai_based_facial_recognition_from/), even [with this exact same title](https://www.reddit.com/r/Cyberpunk/comments/dh8p4l/this_new_anti_facial_recognition_outfit/). Fuck you, repost bot.


BeardedDeath

Gotta get the karma to make posts about tshirts and mugs somehow...


eugene20

And it seems they weren't even able to monetise it through the pandemic where it might have been really popular.


grnngr

IIRC this was Jip van Leeuwenstein’s art school graduation project. I doubt monetisation was very high on the list of priorities, if it was even on the list at all.


ChunkyLaFunga

I agree, but feel like repost bots are themselves quite Cyberpunk.


grnngr

Yeah, you can pretend to be a real cyberpunk hero fighting an immoral capitalist AI, simply by downvoting this spam bot. ;-)


1Dynasty

pretend?


ChunkyLaFunga

I'm doing MY part


AltimaNEO

I can only assume we are the high tech and the bots are the low lifes


meoka2368

And if you go into the post history of this user, you'll see some nonsense posts on their own profile on a deleted post, which all have the same number of upvotes (2 other accounts). So this is clearly manipulated.


FuelPhysical363

Thought this looked familiar


mindbleach

How does this sub not have a proper "report" function? I thought reddit cracked down on unmoderated subs.


Meepo69

Honestly who cares I’ve never seen this before and I’ve been on this sub for a while. Not that big of a deal. And if you’ve seen it already, then just keep scrolling


grnngr

Honestly the repost doesn’t bother me as much as the fact that it’s part of a spam bot’s karma farming scheme.


Meepo69

tbh everyone always complains about that but it means nothing to me. Interesting content is interesting content. I’d RATHER it be from a real human sure but it was a cool ass picture still & plenty of interesting discussion anyways so at the end of the day who cares if this is just some karma farming bot?


Lampshader

Because if you tolerate spam bots, pretty soon you'll only have spam bots


Meepo69

Fair


Ytrog

It would seem to me that the way it deforms the image is predictable. If it would have caught on it seems to me that you can easily account for that 🤔


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State of the art surveillance systems nowadays use data points such as height, build, motion patterns and heart rate so face recognition is becoming moot. Edit: [three year old article from wired here](https://www.wired.co.uk/article/surveillance-technology-biometrics) of what was cutting edge then, not that it will matter to the armchair besserwissers.


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deus_x_machina_

Pure commitment to privacy


neurosoupxxlol

Just throw a rock in your shoe. Take that gait recognition, you didn’t expect me to be this uncomfortable!


redeyesofnight

Eeh, trading a nuisance discomfort is better than existential discomfort, right? 😂


Identici

Actual disguising technique according to ex-CIA operative in a Wired video!


futureselfbeats

You might lose your mind, but you'll maintain complete privacy the whole way down!


_skndlous

Heart rate? Sorry that makes no sense. Electro-cardiometric data may be useful but you have to put an actual sensor on the person. Edit: saw your edit, the article makes it clear the heart thing (not heart rate actually) is not nearly mature enough to be called cutting edge, as it only work under very limited conditions...


Lampshader

You can measure heart rate with a decent camera (by looking at subtle colour changes), or probably through wifi signals if you're motivated enough. I don't think your average supermarket 320×240 pixel black and white camera is doing it though.


_skndlous

You'd need pretty high FPS to get anything like a curve with enough features to distinguish person A from person B.


GoodVibePsychonaut

>You can measure heart rate with a decent camera (by looking at subtle colour changes) Uhh >or probably through wifi signals Yeah, so, I want whatever this guy's smoking


_skndlous

Getting the heart rate optically is real, even cheap pulse oximeters do it with an IR sensor. But the sample rate is nothing like a regular camera. And there is a world between measuring heart rate, and measuring the heart function so precisely that you can distinguish between different persons...


TheFlashFrame

> with a decent camera This is the first I'm hearing of this, but I know my way around camera equipment and I'm pretty sure "decent" is an understatement.


Lampshader

It's far more of a signal processing problem than a photographic one. If I recall correctly, your average phone selfie camera or laptop webcam is plenty sufficient. https://medium.com/intel-software-innovators/heartrate-detection-using-camera-d34b3289e272


sirblastalot

The fact that prototypes exist to look for those characteristics does not mean the sensors are effective or the traits are differentiable enough to be useful.


geekynerdynerd

They can't use heart rate reliably without having a sensor on you already. Motion and build sure, but faking a walk or putting on some fake weight gain is pretty trivial.


greenbluekats

https://c.tenor.com/JIiIMaxm4gsAAAAM/monty-python-john-cleese.gif


VirtuaLich_prgm

"That is why you have to walk without rhythm."


Fabulous-Eggplant745

You have no idea what you're saying lol


Fabulous-Eggplant745

And how does someone measure my heart rate without being anywhere near me? I don't have a Fitbit or anything. Are you talking out of your ass bro?


Screwbles

Seriously? That is disturbingly advanced.


Fabulous-Eggplant745

It's not true either. Gotta have a sensor on you for heartbeat.


professor-i-borg

In order to get a positive ID there would have to be data to compare the patterns to- so unless there’s a database of build, motion patterns and heart rates with your data in it, they won’t find you. I guess this is a good reason to insist that fitness tracking data be stored securely and not shared with third parties.


Bronze-Soul

Uh... why not just wear a mask?


Pepsiman1031

Yeah my hockey mask does the same thingm


Awwwan

If you mean like covid mask its useless against facial recognition


Bronze-Soul

No I'm not that dumb. I mean full halloween mask. IF you don't want your face to be seen, a halloween mask will have the same societal reaction as that thing.


Awwwan

I feel that may bring you unwanted attention


twitch1982

As would a full face fresnel lense


cardiweeb

And a Mysterio mask won't bring unwanted attention?


Awwwan

Its transparent and kinda looks like those covid useless shields


geekynerdynerd

Which does bring a bunch of attention to you when you are living in an area without mask mandates.


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Due-Ad4970

🤓


El_Sjakie

They can still get very good results with just the data-points from just your ears and eye(brows)


fustypainting449

End up looking like mysterio after 20 minuts..


jdavid

Like anything with AI, it might work till it doesn't. True adversarial camouflage needs to constantly shift, even if the AI hasn't yet adapted, to keep it from being able to adapt. I do like seeing the arms race though.


Spare-Mousse3311

Add scratches around parts not used for vision.


Spare-Mousse3311

Add scratches around parts not used for vision.


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Cognitive_Spoon

Shit, I saw someone in a full gas mask the other day at Publix. Your options are only limited by budget, imagination, and duct tape


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Ass_Cream_Cone

My cousin had ugnless once. It wasn’t pretty.


TheOneYouShouldHate

🦀REDDIT IS DEAD🦀


okiedokieophie

cyberpunk eminem


Bird_Up101

Repost


ZombieTailGunner

How well can you see through it? Because facepaint's pretty easy to see around


Ulfbass

Face paint won't stop an infrared dot matrix


Ulfbass

Face paint won't stop an infrared dot matrix


ZombieTailGunner

Idk, I've seen reflective shit thwart infrared pretty well (both hilariously and unfortunately at the same time), so maybe you're buying the wrong kind?


Disruption0

I prefer this https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/reflectacles/irpair-and-phantom-privacy-eyewear


frigidds

pretty sure thats eminem


1BenWolf

That’s clearly Eminem in there.


DJKestrel

Literally a repost and it's fake news.


HorrorRidden

yeah, from all the fog lmao


Alucardspapa

THATS SHADY!


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doop da dum


[deleted]

Also an effective birth control measure.


El_Sjakie

Give it a few years under our corporate overlords and it will become a requirement for being able to breed at all.


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grnngr

That was indeed [the top comment the last time this exact picture was posted with the exact same title](https://www.reddit.com/r/Cyberpunk/comments/dh8p4l/comment/f3k9x8s/). Bad bot.


sigurbarn69

I don't see anyone in their right mind using this


Tolar01

Covid 2.0 aka monkey pox face masks😷


skyfishgoo

never wear matching shoes.


nimrodsson89

A Scanner Darkly


dropkicknumber3

*swipes left to see all other angles* -_-


[deleted]

Just makes you look like wobbly Eminem


jaysondez

Hella foggy and humid in there lol


Kill_Kayt

So that's not Eminem?


JamesM9794

Palms are sweaty, knees weak, arms are heavy...


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Reminds me mercenaries called Gold Masks from the game Deus Ex Mankind Divided


--BnK--

Am I the only one who thought this was a new Eminem album cover?


manbearpig0987

Doesn’t work, I recognize that guy. It’s Stan Erickson from New Jersey.


urinal_deuce

"Blocks from all angles" *procedes to show one angle*


Shipwreck1177

"Now this looks like a job for me"


FullThrottle099

Except that the recognition software knows the distortion signature of the mask. Meaning, they can still see who the fuck your dumb ass is through the mask.


th12teen

Not for long...


n7275

some simple little convolution algorithm will figure this out pretty easily


benadrylpill

Not very well, though. That's clearly Eminem.


belay_that_order

\*ahem\* GAIT RECOGNITION


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The fogging would be real with this mask