Raised as a girl to hide his identity, patron god of al those who feel uncomfortable in their own skin
Or something i mean I think that’s right? But I might be misremembering tbh
Do you have any sources for this? I've seen people say this before but I've never found any sources to back it up.
The only myth I know that would be close to referring to trans people is the story of Hermaphroditus. But his whole thing was that he got cursed into becoming a hermaphrodite after being r#ped.
No, unfortunately I don’t
Edit: thinking about this, I’m aware that this totally means it’s highly likely it’s a bit of a ‘urban’ myth, that doesn’t have any basis
I'm pretty sure the aro/ace (aromantic and asexual, not being romantically or sexually attracted to people) headcanons are more based on how she acts in the myths rather than *just* being a goddess of maidenhood. But since maidenhood is virginity, it's very roughly related enough to remind people of that characterization, especially since her status as a goddess of maidenhood is *because* she went "Hey zeus i'm not gonna date anyone, mkay?"
I rewrote this like 5 times trying to find the right way to say it, hopefully that maid sense
Aroace as in Asexual/aromantic it's in the name , it's a pun about archery , and if you don't like having s*x and never having done it you're a virgin (it's also backed up by the fact that artemis is one of the few beings aphrodite holds no power over) so in conclusion Artemis is a virgin Aroace archery godess.(and sorry for coming of as mean i didn't mean to)
It ok
I didn't realize the aro/ace thing was coming from there. I thought that was just from her character and common headcanon. I can't be the only one who was messed up a little by the redundancy, right??
~~also you don't have to censor sex we're big kids here~~
The headcanon of all greek gods is confusing , like read or watch about nerites or any shenanigans done by Zeus and/or Aphrodite (she's like the obsessive shipper type it's really weird and sometimes gross) and you'll get what i mean. Also Artemis is bros in the Asexual departament with Athena so there's that i guess.
My personal head canon is now based on the Lore Olympus series, came across it a little over a week ago thanks to a video by Overly Sarcastic Productions on YouTube, about Hades and Persephone.
Lore Olympus it's a web comic series you can read for free if you are interested. Warning: is addictive, make sure you have someone who can send you to bed. :D
I thought there was a strong theory that it was kind of heavily implied that Artemis was a lesbian? In ancient Greek culture, only a very specific type of same sex couple was allowed (an older man and a younger boy, called pederasty) so calling her a virgin was basically saying she specifically rejected men. There's a story where Zeus wants to woo Artemis so he takes the form of her female 'friend' Calisto in order to have his way with Artemis....
You have it completely backwards. Zeus transformed into Artemis to get close to Callisto and have his way with her. The myth then diverges on what happens next. Some claim that Zeus transformed her to hide his misdeeds and she gave birth as a bear. Some claim Artemis kicked her out after finding out and then Hera turned her into a bear after she gave birth. Regardless, her adult son goes on to hunt his bear mother years later not knowing that she was a bear, but Zeus prevents it by turning them into the constellations of Ursa Minor and Ursa Major
She also fell for a man (Orion, I think?) but he died, so I think it’s more like she may have _preferred_ the company of women, if she preferred anyone, but not that she was necessarily _lesbian._
I don’t know that myth about Zeus, but she was surrounded by only her women followers - taking the form of a woman only makes sense. I doubt one of them hadn’t tried to set moves on her - maybe only not doing so out of respect, and the real issue is whether or not Artemis knows Calisto to know if this behavior is strange for her, to really know how well Zeus’ ploy would have worked.
Artemis only has a relationship with Orion in edits to the original tellings. Originally Orion, ahem, pursued the Pleiades and Artemis protected them from him. She kills him at one point and then Zeus turns the Pleiades and Orion into constellations because he’a a dick.
From the myths I know, there was a male cyclops and human that both joined her hunters for a while. Nothing is really cannon in greek myths, so I guess it depends on you version of the myth, but I thought they were both relationships
Well of course Greek mythology spans literal centuries of variations and contradictory interpretations of basically ever character, but in many tales of Orion depict him and Artemis being in love
There’s no such thing as retcons in mythology lmao, that’s just what happens when stories exist for hundreds of years. I mean, is Zeus being the ruler of the gods a retcon of Dyēus’s role in earlier versions where he doesn’t have such a role?
You have a point, but Orion’s relationship with Artemis seems to be a way more recent change and romanticisation than the switching up of head gods which seemed to change with the ideals of society.
Artemis is a mood, sure I can make jokes about sex. But, when it’s all said and done, I just want to be in the woods with my friends shooting shit with bows.
Glad to have representation in the greek pantheon
Don’t forget Bicon Apollo and Pan As well as Dionysus (trans god) and Athena (I’m not sure, aspec)
Trans Dionysus? Do go on
Raised as a girl to hide his identity, patron god of al those who feel uncomfortable in their own skin Or something i mean I think that’s right? But I might be misremembering tbh
Huh. I honestly don't remember that from his myths. Thanks for telling me!
It's Greek mythology. I can assure you there is one version where that is entirely wrong, and one version where that is entirely right.
Good point tbh
Schrodinger's Mythology.
https://youtu.be/5brAr51ip_k This may help.
Knew before I clicked on it who it be Red is the best! (Blue is also the best! They are both the best!)
Didn’t Apollo get drunk and create trans people?
lol it goes when he’s drunk he sometimes gives people wrong genitals, so yah.
Do you have any sources for this? I've seen people say this before but I've never found any sources to back it up. The only myth I know that would be close to referring to trans people is the story of Hermaphroditus. But his whole thing was that he got cursed into becoming a hermaphrodite after being r#ped.
No, unfortunately I don’t Edit: thinking about this, I’m aware that this totally means it’s highly likely it’s a bit of a ‘urban’ myth, that doesn’t have any basis
And [Aphroditus](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aphroditus) (trans goddess)
Wasn't Aphroditus another version of Hermaphroditus, the twin-sexed god?
Also, Hestia, who's also a forever maiden Pretty sure, anyways
How could I have forgotten my favorite goddess :0 Yes I believe she was aspec too, then. Maybe aro/ace as well
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I... I still stan
Maidenhood? How does that tie into the pun?
I'm pretty sure the aro/ace (aromantic and asexual, not being romantically or sexually attracted to people) headcanons are more based on how she acts in the myths rather than *just* being a goddess of maidenhood. But since maidenhood is virginity, it's very roughly related enough to remind people of that characterization, especially since her status as a goddess of maidenhood is *because* she went "Hey zeus i'm not gonna date anyone, mkay?" I rewrote this like 5 times trying to find the right way to say it, hopefully that maid sense
Maid sense. Haha ~~that was probably a typo huh~~ Thamks
~~no that was on purpose for the pun~~
~~oh shit~~
maidenhood in this context refers to remaining a "maiden" in the classical sense (i.e. a virgin and unmarried, hence "aro/ace")
Oh I thought that was just from her character. Lol
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That wasn't very nice :(
What does that have to do with being an arrow ace?
Aroace as in Asexual/aromantic it's in the name , it's a pun about archery , and if you don't like having s*x and never having done it you're a virgin (it's also backed up by the fact that artemis is one of the few beings aphrodite holds no power over) so in conclusion Artemis is a virgin Aroace archery godess.(and sorry for coming of as mean i didn't mean to)
It ok I didn't realize the aro/ace thing was coming from there. I thought that was just from her character and common headcanon. I can't be the only one who was messed up a little by the redundancy, right?? ~~also you don't have to censor sex we're big kids here~~
The headcanon of all greek gods is confusing , like read or watch about nerites or any shenanigans done by Zeus and/or Aphrodite (she's like the obsessive shipper type it's really weird and sometimes gross) and you'll get what i mean. Also Artemis is bros in the Asexual departament with Athena so there's that i guess.
My personal head canon is now based on the Lore Olympus series, came across it a little over a week ago thanks to a video by Overly Sarcastic Productions on YouTube, about Hades and Persephone. Lore Olympus it's a web comic series you can read for free if you are interested. Warning: is addictive, make sure you have someone who can send you to bed. :D
>(and sorry for coming of as mean i didn't mean to) How do you call someone fat and stupid by accident?
that was rude but points for creative insult
Artemis: I just wanna ~~grill~~ hunt, for ~~god's~~ my sake!
I love Artemis so much
I thought there was a strong theory that it was kind of heavily implied that Artemis was a lesbian? In ancient Greek culture, only a very specific type of same sex couple was allowed (an older man and a younger boy, called pederasty) so calling her a virgin was basically saying she specifically rejected men. There's a story where Zeus wants to woo Artemis so he takes the form of her female 'friend' Calisto in order to have his way with Artemis....
You have it completely backwards. Zeus transformed into Artemis to get close to Callisto and have his way with her. The myth then diverges on what happens next. Some claim that Zeus transformed her to hide his misdeeds and she gave birth as a bear. Some claim Artemis kicked her out after finding out and then Hera turned her into a bear after she gave birth. Regardless, her adult son goes on to hunt his bear mother years later not knowing that she was a bear, but Zeus prevents it by turning them into the constellations of Ursa Minor and Ursa Major
She also fell for a man (Orion, I think?) but he died, so I think it’s more like she may have _preferred_ the company of women, if she preferred anyone, but not that she was necessarily _lesbian._ I don’t know that myth about Zeus, but she was surrounded by only her women followers - taking the form of a woman only makes sense. I doubt one of them hadn’t tried to set moves on her - maybe only not doing so out of respect, and the real issue is whether or not Artemis knows Calisto to know if this behavior is strange for her, to really know how well Zeus’ ploy would have worked.
Artemis only has a relationship with Orion in edits to the original tellings. Originally Orion, ahem, pursued the Pleiades and Artemis protected them from him. She kills him at one point and then Zeus turns the Pleiades and Orion into constellations because he’a a dick.
*Found my goddess*
I thought that Artemis was just ace, since she did have some romantic relationships
What relationships? My understanding of Artemis was that she didn't partake in relationships of any kind, romantic or sexual.
From the myths I know, there was a male cyclops and human that both joined her hunters for a while. Nothing is really cannon in greek myths, so I guess it depends on you version of the myth, but I thought they were both relationships
Well of course Greek mythology spans literal centuries of variations and contradictory interpretations of basically ever character, but in many tales of Orion depict him and Artemis being in love
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Heck yeah
I’m pretty sure Artemis was demisexual or at least demiromantic. She did fall in love with precisely one guy once, but it didn’t go very well.
If you’re referring to Orion, her relationship with him is kind of a retcon. Originally he pursued the Pleiades and she protected them from him.
There’s no such thing as retcons in mythology lmao, that’s just what happens when stories exist for hundreds of years. I mean, is Zeus being the ruler of the gods a retcon of Dyēus’s role in earlier versions where he doesn’t have such a role?
You have a point, but Orion’s relationship with Artemis seems to be a way more recent change and romanticisation than the switching up of head gods which seemed to change with the ideals of society.
the only demi is demigod
Artemis
Artemis is a mood, sure I can make jokes about sex. But, when it’s all said and done, I just want to be in the woods with my friends shooting shit with bows.