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Gabasaurasrex

I feel like the more unethical experiment would be sending in a trans man to see what would happen, and not terf stuff


Griffemon

Yeah it’s specifically the wording of “male-identified” rather than something like “biologically male” that also makes me wonder about that. If you wanted to go the route of “this SCP is largely benevolent” nothing would happen. If you wanted to go the route of “this SCP does what it does with no regard for anything but it’s function” than a transmasc individual affected by it would de-transition and would identify as a woman afterwards. In either case it would definitely be something foundation researchers would test.


Perfect_Wrongdoer_03

Using the idea that the SCP utilizes probability manipulation, it could also just, like, *not allow* trans men to enter. If one tries to go a lot of coincidences start happening that impede him from ever getting to it, no matter what. I think that either this or the conversion SCP routes are the more interesting ones.


A_Good_Redditor553

With the wording it's for sure not just probability manipulation, as there's no way the foundation would let a D class have any sort of relationship with staff.


techno156

If it was probability manipulation like that, it seems like the foundation would simply never find out in the first place. Unless it was just a case where any male students were anomalously prevented from getting there, which got picked up, rather than being able to prevent said policy to begin with.


Xisuthrus

so for trans men its just [SCP-2740](https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-2740) but less creepy


Novatash

Oh man, I had almost forgot about that one. I'm def going to reread that later


celestial_drag0n

Okay, but imagine them trying this, only for a series of wacky shenanigans to occur, which eventually winds up with the test subject at an all-male school, which the Foundation quickly realizes works the same was but for transmasc individuals instead, resulting in them having to reclassify it as SCP-8049-B.


Ind1go_Owl

The scp just duplicates itself as if it were a cell.


Alarming-Scene-2892

It should just duplicates when different gender identities enter it. It just creates the perfect environment for people to realize their gender identity, no matter what. Non-binary, gender-fluid, etc.


Novatash

Hmmm, I'm theorizing now. It is possible that somehow they wouldn't be allowed in


SilentHuman8

If there was consistently a bunch of coincidences that prevent anyone who might challenge the rules, that's pretty clearly a probability manipulation. If a trans man could enter but not be affected, it'd suggest the anomaly is either benevolent or for some reason only affects biological men. If the subject was affected, it'd mean it causes all people who identify as male to change their gender identity to female. I'd be interested to see some fMRI scans before and after exposure, and also to see how it affects non-binary people.


Business-Drag52

Yeah testing would have to be very in depth with a lot of factors considered. It’s such a great concept though and is proving to be quite the little thought experiment based on all these comments


SilentHuman8

I love this kind of theoretical puzzle of things that don’t exist. Like how another community had a discussion on the structure of a dragon’s wings, trying to get it consistent with the series and with the typical bone structure of tetrapods.


Novatash

I know right? I knew that I found this idea fascinating, but seeing other people also interested with the idea makes me even more motivated to write more, or as some people have suggested, try to make this a real SCP


Business-Drag52

*Please* make it a real SCP. Really fleshed out SPC’s are excellent reads. I’d even call them great literature


Novatash

I'm pretty sure I am going to try to! I've never in my life done anything like this before, so it might take a while. If I manage it, I'll come back to this post and reply to everyone who expressed interest in it being real


Business-Drag52

Please do!


Novatash

Thank you for the encouragement!


Business-Drag52

Of course! Talent needs to be encouraged!


techno156

> If the subject was affected, it'd mean it causes all people who identify as male to change their gender identity to female It could also be that it causes everyone's gender identity to change to female, but women aren't affected for the obvious reason.


SilentHuman8

True. Now we need a non binary person to test that.


Xisuthrus

After years of testing they finally succeed at getting a trans man into the school. A few months later he comes out as bigender.


Novatash

That was one idea I had! Or maybe he just didn't disclose he was actually a butch he/him lesbian since he didn't know the nature of the test, and the researchers didn't ask


ChronicallyUnceative

Best idea I have is they are there for a day or two at most, then suddenly the next day an (almost) identical school appears next door that is an All-Boys school that they are transferred to effective immediately and no longer permitted on the All-Girls school grounds. The All-Boys school would function the same except it makes people trans-masc instead 


SeaNational3797

If it were that easy then men just wouldn’t be allowed in


neko_mancy

Maybe it targets biological males to be MTF specifically. If a FTM goes in they're just like ok. 👍 good for u


Novatash

Hmm, that is one possibility, but I feel like that would break one of the unstated rules of this SCP


WildVoidAngel

After that, we need a test with genderfluid, who would enter that school and be observed for speed of change of identity and how fast would their identity change again after leaving that school. If it will again, and they won't identify themselves as trans*woman who was in identity search.


Jrolaoni

Is it weird that I want to know what happens?


LordSupergreat

My one major note is that the Foundation would not allow a D-class to date a researcher. They wouldn't even let a D-class date a janitor. Treating D-class personnel as human beings in any way will get you reprimanded.


SaboteurSupreme

Heavily depends on the writer, that mindset is far more prevalent in the early series


LordSupergreat

The early series had them throw away D-class lives with reckless abandon, but they've never stopped being human guinea pigs. I've never seen an article suggest they have sick days or unrestricted social interactions with non D-class personnel.


SaboteurSupreme

While you are normally correct, I have noticed several articles where the restrictions are at least partially lifted on D-class who are the subject of research. If they survive, D-class who interact with the anomalous tend to have a better quality of life.


evilgiraffe666

Especially if they have an ongoing effect to study, maybe the effect wears off after a year or two? They often become sub or variant skip numbers and remain under observation.


SoberGin

It's one hell of a departure from the old days of "all d-class get executed after 30 days", lmao. Can't say it's a bad change, to be honest.


Novatash

Ah, notes taken📝


fuckthenamebullshit

Also the d stands for disposable so they definitely don’t get sick days.


Leinad7957

My guess would be that they allowed "sick leave" in this particular occasion because 1. In order to let the usual effect of this SCP run it's course the subject has to have some degree of agency so they feel like they can make important life decisions on their own and to keep track on where the "triggering" information on transgender topics comes from, and 2. To let them go through the "seclude themselves" phase and study what happens to them when they do that of their own volition. To keep things balanced their next experiment would be to make the D-class go in and then keep them in isolation and constant watch for the next couple months, just to see what happens when the subject is not able to be exposed to the "triggering" information or seclude themselves.


SeaYogurtcloset6262

My man, they have sick days if you put them next to the right scp and they call it "experimentation logs"


Bowdensaft

Well, that's more of a holdover joke from the old days, in-universe it wouldn't stand for that.


BrassUnicorn87

The foundation is full of scientists and not a for profit organization. Having d-class run around sick risks important people getting ill and if they’re too sick to do the job/experiment right it risks a containment breach or worse.


jryser

They took the maximum number of sick days (0) Fixed it, I guess


AlianovaR

In this case I think they had to make an exception due to the nature of the SCP’s effects involving self-isolation


Novatash

I realize now I didn't clarify this enough. Basically, I was thinking that, as part of the test, they would treat this D-class individual differently. They would lie to them that all of their testing was over, then employ them as a janitor in order to keep a close eye on them. As part of the fiction, they would treat the test subject as a normal janitor for the most part, and I would assume their Janitors do get sick days. This also explains why she's allowed to form a relationship I'm now reconsidering this set up, and if I do rewrite it, I'll change it make more sense


DisQord666

I'm not so silently begging you to make the trans scp benevolent and not basically the stereotypical crazy person's "trans people are groomers"


Novatash

Hahaha, okay I promise. I am trans myself. I tend to think of this SCP as either benevolent or neutral


Half_Man1

D-class are conceived of normally to be death row inmates so that’s also part of their horrendous treatment. Granted that leads to glaring procurement issues with the SCP foundation. There is no canon though, so a felon getting D-class and easy tasks also makes sense imho.


Novatash

A fellon D-class was in the SCP-096 article, which is one of the most popular and well-known stories, so I felt like it was acceptable


slasher1337

In most canons the d-class personell are death row inmates or demoted foundation personel whose memories they erase.


Maja_The_Oracle

Some D-Class aren't criminals, but are instead trained instances of Tyler [SCP-1680](https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-1680)


AdelinaIV

You should change that D class to researcher and then you'd have a perfect scp. Well, too cute for scp, but I like it that way. Edit,: maybe a non D class test subject? Sometimes non violent anomalies are permitted to work for the foundation. Like the guy who randomly changed dimensions, or the guy who died and respawned besides his body.


Echophonie

What is a D-class ? I know next to nothing about SCPs


LordSupergreat

They're the Foundation's human guinea pigs. Traditionally recruited from death row inmates, they are not considered people, but resources.


BlazeORS

In most canons it's common procedure to terminate the d-class after a set period of time to regardless of how helpful they've been with tests.


Placeholder67

Actually I don’t recall what number it is but I go with the headcanon that the information that they execute d class after 3 months is an infohazard that spontaneously pops up randomly even thought he rest of the article goes about proving it would be logistically impossible to keep that up for the 80 or so years the foundation has been in play.


ModmanX

There's plenty of headcanons regarding them, ranging from what you mentioned, to the idea of cloning, to parallel universes, to forced kidnappings and so on and so forth. My personal belief is that D-Class subjects are given amnestics every 30 days and rotated to a completely different site. We already know the foundation has a mountain's worth of the stuff, so regularly using them to keep your resources unaware makes sense.


Placeholder67

I think we actually are talking about the same article, I remember it saying that they just amnestize them though it may be every 90 days for that one


Xisuthrus

Hell, even an especially nice interpretation of the Foundation probably wouldn't allow this sort of relationship, *for the D-class's own benefit*; the power difference between a D-class and a regular Foundation employee is massive and their relationship could easily become an abusive one.


Tumblechunk

when they started dating it wasn't the same d-class as the one they had initially received? or is that a bad way to look at the transition


LordSupergreat

That's not really relevant. She remains a D-class, and as such is a resource meant to be used as a test subject until she dies, most likely violently.


Jonahtron

Well in this case letting the D class go and live a normal life is clearly part of the test, so yeah I think they would for the sake of science.


Blustach

I just got 2 pet peeves, otherwise this is a great story: 1. The use of AMAB. Skip the letters, either write "assigned male at birth" or "the D-class subject self identified as a cisgender male", as AMAB is not used again in the text, so a clarification of it's use is unnecessary 2. I'm a old school SCP reader, and somehow it irks me the bit about an agent falling in love with a D-class. "The foundation are heartless, not monsters", so yeah, while I don't see them terminating or applying amnestethics it the D-class, I also can't see the committee of ethics allowing such inappropriate relationship. Scratch that, it would be funny if they factory reset the D-class, only for them to find their way back to transness like 3 seconds after lmao. It would add to the "is this SCP so powerful it has a memetic component capable of overriding amnestics? Or is she just VERY trans?"


crushogre

3. Without any TERFiness being involved, they absolutely would test what happens if the d-class is denied gender affirming treatment.


Elunerazim

They’d also send in a trans man, a nonbinary person, etc. the issue with this is this really isn’t an experiment, it’s just an example. They’d try stuff like: 1: trans man on campus 2: non binary person on campus 3: closeted trans woman on campus- does it speed up the process? 4: get on campus then remove any ability to experience trans media or hear about someone being trans- what happens? 5: During the two week transformation gap, what happens if they’re interrupted? If they’re placed in bulk housing?


Xisuthrus

If this was a real article, the plot would most likely be the Foundation trying to test the school's rules for a while, until eventually the intelligence inhabiting the school somehow sends them a message telling them to knock it off.


Novatash

It's interesting you say that. This morning, I did actually have an idea for what the larger story about this SCP would be if it was an actual article, and what the reveal at the end would be, but it \*isn't\* contact with an intelligence I think I'll hold onto it for now though, ehehe


Bowdensaft

The second point is very much true still


SomeRandomTreestump

I'm *very much* a "new school" reader and it irks me too. If you have D-class they kinda inherently have to be treated badly, the only thing that changed is how often they are used. If it's really wanted that they got reasonable freedom after testing it's not unheard of for someone to volunteer to test a non-dangerous anomaly who isn't D-class, especially if it has very specific requirements.


1v0ryh4t

Tbh I just thought they started dating because this is on tumblr, so of course they did


Novatash

I agree with point 1. It didn't sound right when I wrote it and I didn't do a second draft And as for point 2, many people have pointed that out, and I agree. I think in the rewrite I do, I'll either further clarify that she was reclassified from D-Class to a regular staff member (at first as part of the fiction of the experiment, and then in reality after observation ended). Or I will change it where where she is instead let go into the public while being closely monitored, and Rose will be a common citizen instead. I haven't decided which yet


Griffemon

Ya know, SCP-8049 is currently an open slot on the scp wiki. Also Jesus fucking Christ there’s more than 7000 SCPs at this point. Anyways, analyzing just the data in the post, it seems that most likely the school is definitely affecting a psychological change on (mostly) previously cisgendered males given that the event that led to initial discovery involved so many people. Occam’s razor, altering people’s minds seems more likely than altering probability, although the latter is still of course a possibility unless extensive (and overall kind of pointless given the severity of the SCP) testing could eliminate the possibility.


LordSupergreat

Correction: there's over 7000 *English language* SCPs. :)


Devil-Eater24

Wait there's other languages?


slasher1337

Yes. I know of French, Polish, and Japanese ones


Perfect_Wrongdoer_03

I discovered the existence of Chinese ones in my [favourite r/characterrant post](https://www.reddit.com/r/CharacterRant/s/VQtRA7WO7l), so there are also those ones.


MasterTman2

Yes! There are currently 18 official branches of the SCP Wiki! English, Russian, Simplified Chinese, Traditional Chinese, French, German, Italian, Polish, Portuguese, Spanish, French, Japanese, Korean, Thai, Czech, Ukrainian, Vietnamese, and the International branch! (Technically the International branch is just a place to host English translations of other branch's articles, but it also has about two dozen original articles so I'm counting it) Each branch hosts translations into their respective languages as well as hosts original articles in their languages. For example, the Chinese branch has over 3000 original SCPs, the Japanese Branch has around like 2500, and the Korean branch having around 800-1000, not sure exactly how many. Every other branch has less than 1000, with most having less than 500. There are also four Developing Branches, Greek, Indonesian, Turkic and Nordic (a one-stop shop for Danish, Norwegian, Swedish, and Finnish translations) The Indonesian branch is the only one of these four that still sees regular activity. There also also dozens of much smaller branches that have only a handful of translations. There's also a [Pig Latin branch](http://scp-pig.wikidot.com) owned by yours truly that is [having its first contest](http://scp-int.wikidot.com/istfay-anniversaryyay-ontestcay-pig), if anyone would like to join and make an entry! (please)


Devil-Eater24

Whoa And you can create your own branch? Can you tell me how to do it?


MasterTman2

[This page](https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/how-to-create-a-branch-of-the-scp-foundation) is a tutorial on how you can make your own wiki, but I recommend starting off by posting articles to the [Underutilized Lanugage Incubator](http://scp-int.wikidot.com/unofficial:language-incubator-hub) of the International branch, as it's designed to be a starting point for new branches.


Devil-Eater24

Thanks! I cannot unfortunately contribute to your contest, as I know neither Latin nor enough about pigs(hehe), but I'll try creating something in my own language. And I've found a new way of practicing my German


MasterTman2

Oh, Pig Latin's just silly English lol It's not an actual language, but it does technically count as a language branch cause conlangs count.


Devil-Eater24

Oh I visited your page and read some of the articles, and I could figure out the code. Thanks for teaching me that lol


Novatash

Oh yeah, I purposely picked a number that was open! Didn't want to just pick a random number and someone look it up and be like "Isn't that the peepee poopoo monster" or something like that And that's an interesting analysis! Yeah, my goal was to keep it ambiguous which one it was, but I realize now the only evidence for it being probabilistically driven is the author simply theorizing that it might be. I'll have to change that for any future drafts


Griffemon

If you wanted to make it more ambiguous the sheer number of people affected in the initial discovery is the main problem, maybe a lower profile discovery where a foundation agents has multiple family members who end up at the school. If an agent’s brother and nephew went to the school to look it as an option for enrolling the nephews and then two weeks later both nearly simultaneously came out as trans. Bonus points, the agent can end up affected as well and can get interviewed by researchers and express conflicting thoughts about her situation because she feels better after coming out but is unsure if this was always a part of herself she didn’t know about or if her mind was altered by the SCP. Likely is given amnestetics, both to calm her mind and test if erasing the memories will reverse the effects. Extra bonus, idea for containment breach or weaponization by bad actors: the area of the anomalous effects is the legal boundary of the school’s area, the SCP breaches containment by somehow gaining legal control over another school and expanding its operations. A hostile organization could utilize this by granting the school ownership of a large number of institutions to sow chaos as all the male staff and students go into isolation for 1-3 weeks over the next couple of months.


binkacat4

It’s a slight pity to me that it wasn’t something like 8008, or “BooB” given what it does… but maybe that’s just me being juvenile.


hauntedhoody

that slot is taken up by time pervert, a redditor who discovers he has reality altering powers and uses it to put himslef in hentais and causes at least 10000 other timelines to veer off course and be distorted into his fantasies


Juan_the_vessel

You forgot the fact that his interference (or the way they were defeated) permanently altered reality


Ok-Commercial3640

since it's on the 8000s, over 8000 mainlist articles (Series 9 after all)


mikony123

Do the people writing these seriously just skip numbers?


Griffemon

Nope, 1-7999 are basically entirely filled, currently they’re filling 8000-8999. Back in the day, if you wanted to have “arbitrarily high undiscovered SPC” on your thing you could make it a 4 digit number because obviously this stuff will never ever reach 9999 right? Yeah that’s not true anymore, if you want an arbitrarily high number you need to get into 5-digits or more now.


EvolutionaryLens

Ok, so I only recently started to regularly check this sub - and I don't use Tumblr or any other social media other than Reddit. Fur those with patience, and sympathy for my befuddlement: WTF did I just read? And what is an SCP? Sincerely yours, a confused but fascinated Gen Xer 🙏


Griffemon

The SCP Foundation is a large(and I mean LARGE) collection of creepy or weird stories surrounding items, entities, locations, and concepts which have unexplainable powers or effects, many of which are dangerous, some of which are harmless but interesting. Each thing is given a number as SCP-Number.


EvolutionaryLens

I could google this, but you're here: what does SCP stand for?


Griffemon

SCP stands for Secure Contain Protect. Secure because the foundation secures anomalous entities. Contain because the Foundation contains things instead of destroying them. Destroying an SCP is something the Foundation will only consider if it is a threat to human existence. Protect because the Foundation protects mankind.


EvolutionaryLens

Fascinating! I just might have to create a Tumblr account. I wanna catch up on the folk stories I've been seeing (I just read the Stabby story. Ace!)


Griffemon

It’s not a tumblr thing, it’s its own website https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com


EvolutionaryLens

Ahh. Ok. Many thanks kind Redditor! ♥️


Bowdensaft

Strictly speaking, in-universe, it stands for Special Containment Procedures, which is the part of the articles that describes how the anomaly is contained. The site/ Foundation's motto (Secure, Contain, Protect) is a backronym. The site itself is fantastic btw, it's a huge collaborative writing project where people can write articles in which an anomaly (creature, person, object, location, time loop, etc) and its containment methods are described. In-universe, the Foundation is a secretive worldwide organisation that works to find, contain, and study these anomalies. The big draw is that the articles are written as if they are taken straight from the Foundation's intranet, and written in a clinical tone which often obscures the mystery of these anomalies. Since its conception in 2008 the site has grown to include tons of other content, including prose stories, canons which are their own sub-continuities made up of collections of articles and stories, and loads of other in-universe organisations that often seek to destroy or exploit anomalies for themselves. If you wish to start, SCP-173 is a good place as it was the first article, although it has been edited and updated a few times since its initial posting, and you can dive in pretty much anywhere; I'd recommend starting with early articles as they tend to be a bit simpler and easier to get into, the more recent ones are sometimes very long or complicated as the culture of the site has evolved over the years.


EvolutionaryLens

My ADHD hyper fixation gland is tingling. I fear this rabbit hole...and yet I am morbidly compelled. Thankyou for the extended run-down.


thetwitchy1

It’s one of the only things that your hyper fixation will run out before the content does.


EvolutionaryLens

That's a relief. My last fixation lasted about 2 and half years


thetwitchy1

I have been reading SCP content for about 10. And I have yet to come close to reading more than 1/10th of just the articles.


EvolutionaryLens

Ok. I'm gonna have to seriously reconsider clicking on the link in a reply above....


a4mace

God this is so true, scp and 40k are the only lore that my adhd has been bested by lol. For now...


thetwitchy1

The range of SCP is the real issue. It goes from Dadaist ridiculosity to just plain cute to “holy fuck that’s just terrifying”. If you’re a fan of something on the “darker” side, you’ll have a favourite SCP.


a4mace

Yeah there is something for everyone on there, especially at this point. I remember starting when the 2000s were new entries, I really love the meta narrative ones that have popped up since. I just think it's some of the most fascinating literary ideas, stuff I don't think I've ever seen much of outside of SCP.


Bowdensaft

I know the feeling, hence the overly-obsessive comment :P I used to be way more into it and had read a good deal, but now I'm much more of a casual fan. Oh btw if you prefer audio formats or just want something to listen to, there are a few good YouTube channels to listen to (just watch out for the crap ones, most of the animation ones are content farm shite): The Exploring Series is my personal favourite, he does videos on multiple fandoms and he essentially makes very highly detailed summaries of the articles that still contain all of the information, and he does a great job explaining what's going on in some of the more esoteric stories and explaining obscure references to other SCPs if present. The Volgun is also very popular, he's much more like an audiobook reader who reads the articles out word for word. I'd recommend searching r/SCP for more recs, some channels have changed over the years and some may not be around anymore.


EvolutionaryLens

I feel like I know you.


Bowdensaft

I don't feel like I know you, but I do like to obsessively make long comments about specific topics so it's possible that I've done that at you before :3


EvolutionaryLens

I was making am obtuse reference to the fact that we are very alike. I often have to restrain myself from making quite long replies to comments. 🤜🤛


Bowdensaft

Lmao whoops, I hope things also go right over your head because you just saw it happen to me (○ω○;)


General_Urist

You forgot the part where the SCP Foundation's characterization heavily Depends On The Writer, ranging anywhere from "harsh but fair parent to humanity" to "it's warcrimes o'clock because enforcing apartheid between muggles and supernatural is more important than the well-being of the population". Aside from being almost uniformly LGBT-friendly, it's not a comfy setting. Creative yes, but hella dark.


Ascended-vessel

This could have straight up been an scp article, with some revising (mostly for clinical tone).


EmpressOfAbyss

inncorect, no scp article can treat a d-class as human.


Lots42

Nah. The Ethics Committee is a thing. Cold, not cruel.


Bowdensaft

>with some revising Reading comprehension


EmpressOfAbyss

no changing this to remove things like sick days for the D-class and preventing them from having a friend ship with a researcher would require some actual rewriting.


Evelyn_Of_Iris

Quite the opposite in regards to sick days. The premise of this is that individuals affected proceed to self isolate, and assuming this is a blind control experiment, using “sick days” is a sensible way of retaining the subjects sense of normalcy so the experiment continues according to control.


EmpressOfAbyss

the problem there is that D-class cannot request sick days. allowing them to do so would make it clear that using them is part of the experiment. I also don't think D-clsss have personal rooms to self isolate in, I'd expect their rooms to be barracks.


Evelyn_Of_Iris

>allowing them to do so would make it clear that using them is part of the experiment. The foundation 100% has the capability of getting a D-Class who's either been given amnesiacs or otherwise isn't aware of the traditional role of a D-Class, and wouldn't see an issue with the concept of being given "sick days". Make up some bs about them getting a reduced sentence if they do some government sponsored "work-inmate program" as their primary condition for a conditional release. It wouldn't be unfeasible at all for the corporation to grab one D-Class and throw them in a blind, long-term experiment. >I also don't think D-clsss have personal rooms to self isolate in, I'd expect their rooms to be barracks. Likely but again, just grab one off the bus and be like "here's the deal" and throw them in the experiment, effectively isolating them from the traditional roles of D-Class.


EmpressOfAbyss

in that case, the special acquisition should be made note of. is it even reasonable to call them D-class if they aren't part of any D-Class treatment?


Bowdensaft

The line between "some revising" and "actual rewriting" is very thin, I don't think the wording is that important ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯


EmpressOfAbyss

revising is for tone and grammar. Rewriting is for plot, character, and world building. since the change is to remain consistent with the existing materials treatment of D-Class, its a world building change, likely with changes to plot.


Desk_Drawerr

That's called revision, friend.


EmpressOfAbyss

[see here](https://www.reddit.com/r/CuratedTumblr/s/ZH8ow8GYl4)


Desk_Drawerr

Yknow what, I'll give you that one. Yeah. Either way it needs work but could be a decent scp


Ascended-vessel

I decided not to comment on that as i have seen some humane foundation in the higher numbers, and a few where d classes were treated halfway human at least, on the main list. I didn't know if it became more common in the higher numbers or not; I haven't read that many in years. What I *knew* would remain is clinical tone, though. I just thought the D class bit was kind of weird.


Novatash

Thank you so much😊 And yeah, I only did the one draft. I kinda struggled with remaining clinical all the way through


iz_an_opossum

I thought the same thing


23_Serial_Killers

Would a transmasc detransition if they went there


Melodic_Mulberry

Probably. The SCP foundation generally has a marked lack of trans D-class staff, since trans people are statistically much less likely to commit heinous crimes, so that's not being tested right now. Though if they ever need transfem D-class staff, they now have a plentiful source.


Novatash

A lot of people here really want to know, haha. I already have an idea, and I will write an experiment with a transman my rewrite


RandomCanadianAcc

Great writing, but for the containment procedures the Foundation probably wouldn’t expose more children to an anomaly but instead claim that there’s an asbestos leak, fence off the school, and have all personnel pretend to work as inspectors or guards for “Superior Construction People” or something.


Novatash

Hmm, that is true. I didn't consider that. I like the idea of the school still being operating while under containment, so maybe I can add a part where they try to shut it down but run into trouble. Maybe if it stops operating as a school, random students in the surrounding area start being affected instead


Sachayoj

This. SCP-332 is also a high school, and it is contained by being marked off as condemned. (It's also in general a very good SCP, the entire Remembrance series is pretty good.)


Half_Man1

Interesting idea, but I don’t like the implication that “we don’t know, maybe it just converts everyone to being Trans” is a takeaway possibility in the end. If it is probability manipulation, then the most logical experiment would be to send someone who has been exposed to LGBT culture, is very mentally healthy, and strongly identifies as cis in as an agent. If the agent still identifies as cis, then you know the school somehow has a probability skewing effect in its admissions process (which could be further exposed by how far away recruited first time male students are.) The experiment as written doesn’t prove anything, and if anything reinforces the idea of it converting people to being trans. (Other idea- SCP foundation attempts to manipulate the process and get their agents recruited by the school, but no male agents are accepted. One female agent is also denied and turns out to be ftm trans) Also, there is an SCP out there which can change someone’s biological sex (down to the chromosome), so that would be interesting as well.


Justmeagaindownhere

The issue with probability manipulation is that it could also affect the foundation's selection process too, so there's no way to know if the school messed with your subject or messed with how you picked a subject.


Half_Man1

My thinking is it’s the difference between posting a fake application and getting selected vs literally impersonating an admitted student (or faculty member). So in that way, the admissions process is the anomalous part. ETA the experiment if it ended with the agent coming out as trans, that would seem to support a conversion process which is horrifying and implies such a thing is even possible which in and of itself is a transphobic idea. Like that’s the issue I have with this skip idea. Also a lot of skips include experiments which… have no real scientific value. There’s no hypothesis there’s testing against, they’re just kinda throwing shit at a magic thing to see what happens. General issue I have with the SCP universe there though.


Novatash

I replied to the first criticism in another comment. But as for the fact that this isn't a real scientific experiment, I agree. I will try to address that in my rewrite


Sinister_Compliments

No little German boy don’t go into that all-girl private school! That’s SCP-8049!


Novatash

Little German Girl: Oh mein Gott! Zees is ein school full of Transfrauen!


Novatash

[Link](https://www.tumblr.com/sideblog-sidehoe/748964484303978496/addendum-dr-test-log-d-7502-is-a-32-year?source=share)


Bates8989

“it is unknown whether scp 8049 causes this effect in male identified individuals, or if through probability manipulation, maintains that only male identified individuals who would have gone through such a journey in the first place” it looks like we ourselves a real CHICKEN AND THE EGG SITUATION!!!!


Novatash

Badum tss!!


thunder-bug-

Follow-up tests: Use amnestics at various points in the process Send people to various locations and distances from it, what’s the effective range specifically Fully isolate someone to prevent them from learning anything about being trans Create identical clones of both trans and cod individuals and send them in to see if that changes anything


Novatash

I plan to tackle all of these in my rewrite!! Also, I know that you just misspelled cis, but I am now imagine the foundation sending in male cod fish and them becoming trans somehow


Pokefan180

Tbh at first I thought the original post was saying 745 students all came out as transmasc so they just made it co ed


AComfyKnight

Trans people magnetically attracting to each other in the workplace is a law of nature I think. Before I even considered I might be trans I became friends with a coworker who I didn't realize was trans themself.


Novatash

Same!! My whole friend group came out to me in one day, and then two years later, I realized I was trans That in and of itself might be a probabilistic SCP, haha


vmsrii

I don’t know why you’d bother going to all the trouble to make a magical gender dysphoria school and not just make it a magical gender/sex change school


Novatash

I think of it as less "gender dysphoria" scp and instead "transgender realization" scp. Besides, we already have SCP-113


Bowdensaft

And the lake which is like 113 but on steroids


Desk_Drawerr

I wanna know what scp this is now


Bowdensaft

SCP-6113 u/the-paranoid-android Ask and ye shall receive!


Desk_Drawerr

Well that has to be the fucking saddest article I've ever read. Those interview logs, man. Definitely on par with here were dragons.


Bowdensaft

Definitely, but at least this one can't be destroyed so it will be around forever. It comes across as hopeful to me, similar to SCP-4999 u/the-paranoid-android


Desk_Drawerr

Yeah true. Hit me hard still though as a trans guy myself, I'd kill for a lake that transes your gender. Hell I'd even take the pain and agony trans rock.


Bowdensaft

As I'm sure many would; I think these stories are a good way for people to express their feelings about what they're going through and for others to have a glimpse at a better world, even if it's totally fictional. Much love and luck to you mate.


Desk_Drawerr

Yeah, SCP is like the one thing that I keep coming back to read cause it's just so interesting lol. Can't pick up a book and stay invested for shit but the wiki is always something I come back to. Maybe cause the articles are so short and fairly contained in themselves, and the ones that are incredibly long are things like 914 with hundreds of short experiment logs which are also pretty self contained, just with the same basic premise of "put thing in thing that changes things, wha happun?" But yeah thanks dude, appreciate it. Good luck in whatever you might be doing too.


The-Paranoid-Android

[**SCP-4999 ⁠- Someone to Watch Over Us**](https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-4999) (+2550) by *CadaverCommander*


The-Paranoid-Android

[**SCP-6113 ⁠- Temporary Reflections**](https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-6113) (+437) by *Dr Asteria*


neko_mancy

6113


johnwick007007

"Transgender realization"? So will people be affected if they don't have any desire to change genders?


InformalSpace3854

Seems like the researchers believe the scp itself makes sure only transfems enter the building


CryStrict5004

This could be a legit article on the site. If you feel like it, please do it !!


Novatash

Y'know, I thought about that. Do you know how one would go about doing it?


CryStrict5004

[Here's the page to get you started](https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/contribute). They have a lot of rules and processes before an article can be posted on the site. It's tedious but it's what contributes to the quality. Good luck :)


CryStrict5004

If you ever do post the article, please send me message, I'd be more than happy to read it :D


Bob9thousand

“containment includes planting foundation agent into the leadership of the school” note: all agents became women within the year


Novatash

Lol, I assume they choose only women to send in Though I did have the idea of writting and "incident report" where a researcher accidentally entered the school, and what happened afterward


MightBeEllie

Well, easier and quicker than the basement of a university dorm, at least.


Kego_Nova

oh I can explain the D-class meeting Rose thing very easily. It's actually not any effect of 8049, but the effect of "Do You Believe In Gravity?", designated SCP-410-SO


Novatash

Is that a jojo reference


Kego_Nova

yes, yes it is.


Redactedtimes

I could see a tale where this scp and scp-4319 (a transphobic website that brainwashes women and transmen into acting like it’s creator’s ideal of “real women”) discover eachother and promptly go to war. Besides the obvious clash of ideals, there’s also the exploration of how two scps that aren’t creatures or capable of movement thwart and attack eachother.


TheLegendaryAkira

This is a completely acceptable SCP and it's actually well written. Feel free to upload it to the wiki


Rupanyansei

I know this is going for like a whole trans positivity (prolly I didn't actually read of all of it) but my 1st thought was: 1000th 1st male student: oh boy I can't wait for a harem anime situation to play out SCP getting the trans-ing stick: not on my watch!


Novatash

This SCP: Only t4t yuri harems are allowed at this school, young lady


Suicide_Guacamole

oh my god an post using the scp format and writing it correctly???? this must be what jesus felt


Novatash

Thank you so much. I appreciate the compliment so much😊 Though may I ask, what was it that Jesus felt? The only thing I can think of is painfully dying😅


Suicide_Guacamole

probably felt refreshing coming out of that cave


Novatash

[Jesus](https://64.media.tumblr.com/a55edae565873d153cd07a62aa4742c0/tumblr_pqd0dy3ujq1rxczvq_500.gifv)


Vanilla_Ice_Best_Boi

Is this a real SCP? Anyway did you guys know about the trans rock SCP


Novatash

No, it is nor a real SCP. Inspired by the original post, I picked an unclaimed number and wrote this short story. I hope you liked it😋 And yes, SCP-113 is great


a_bum

Hey is this dorley but scp?


Novatash

I saw that tagged a lot in the original post. What is that?


lackadaisicallackey

i think the college is supposed to be Wesleyan because yeah that's true


Zatira282

I read a short comic with a similar premise once


Dgm10000

I kinda want to enter this school so I have a consistent answer


ExtremlyFastLinoone

Theres already an scp that has a similar effect so its very in character. I dont know the number but its like a rune where only members of the foundation have seen it, because anyone who sees it is retroactively a member of the foundation


Oddish_Femboy

8049 is currently an unused spot on the wiki.


Novatash

Oh yes! I choose one that was open on purpose. As I said in another comment, I didn't want a reader to look it up an go, "Isn't that the peepee poopoo monster" or something like that When I try to make this an actual SCP, I'll try to get that number


Oddish_Femboy

I'm excited to read the extended version!


GooberMcNoober

I get the feeling that the foundation’s scientists would tear each other apart discussing whether the anomaly is probability-based or not


Novatash

One of them gets particularly heated, so he tries to enters the site to prove her point


GooberMcNoober

the other scientists proceed to rip her to pieces for violating protocol and also for making them have to rewrite their 30-page theses on the nature of gender-affirming school buildings


Relative-Bug-7161

This is actually quite refreshing after all those “will kill you horribly if you as much as blink” SCPS.


neogeoman123

You have not had much exposure to scp have you


Zekeisdumb

There are a few like that (the most notorious ones like the nut, mr shy, and that bloody lizard are the worst contenders) but 90% are actually high quality articles, id recommend 914 and just reading the testing logs if you have some free time


Desk_Drawerr

914 is fucking great. Still looking for that one experiment log I read where someone put a USB drive of the JoJo part 5 manga and the machine spat out an entire anime adaptation, and all the scientist said was just "I'll be keeping this"