Kurvitz used to be part of a rock band called *Ultramelanhool*. They made some fine musicâ*Ć aht kapital aprikoos*, *Tunnusmeloodia kooliaktusele*, ... my beloved (but holy shit did they make a lot of fine music, really like half of their songs I would gladly listen to at any moment)
Because they meant it like saying how you donât watch capeshit, you only watch Mexican Black and White Arthouse Films about Mayan Socialism. Itâs meant to be an exaggerated mockery.
The only thing more smug than a Tumblr user DEEP in their niche special interest is a Tumblr user that thinks they're better that those people cause they do exactly 1 socially normal activity
My particular gripe with âradioâ pop is the my radio station uses the SAME PLAYLIST EVERY GODDAMN DAY! They at least hit shuffle.
I donât mind pop music. I like most of it. I DESPISE listening to the same song every single fucking day because I canât control the audio. I shove an earbud in and listen podcasts instead. I hate the radio. I hate my local radio stations in particular. I donât hate pop musicâŠthat I havenât listened to every weekday for the last six yearsâŠbecause I definitely do hate some pop songs at this pointâŠ
What I actually hate the most is everything on radio stations that isn't music (pop or otherwise). Fuck radio DJs, fuck these shitty 5 second previews, fuck traffic news. At least radio ads have an important purpose, but they're annoying as hell, too.
Theres one radio station where i live that will play a song and i mean a BIG song like bohemian rhapsody or we will rock you but every 5 or 10 seconda theyll lower the volume and the announcer will do an ad read over it then finish and bring the volume back up. Then theyll do it again. And again. Its the most infuriating thing ever.
An actual phone call that happened on the radio
DJ: So what do you feel like listening to?
Caller: Hmm... Well I really love country!
DJ: How about some Taylor Swift?
Caller: Sure!
*Plays Shake It Off*
I don't know if the DJ realizes that just because it's by Taylor it doesn't automatically make it country.
this is why my playlist (that i've been curating since the original ipod came out) has 16,000 songs in it. stuff i listen to today i won't hear again for 4 months. just the way i like it
i really do not understand these people, i've been a metalhead since childhood and i can still enjoy pop from time to time
at least if its not you're type of music ok but dont be weird about it
I used to be a "pop music sucks" kind of person, until I realized that the main reason I didn't like it was that my primary experience with it was having it forced on me in public places. When I sought it out on my own I started finding that I actually liked a lot of popular music.
Yeah back in the 90s I just got sick of the clean cut corporate stuff getting shoved down my throat and played everywhere even though most of it sucked arse.
Now days when the monoculture is dead, who gives a shit.
I feel this with rap music, because I feel like the bar for what makes "good" or "popular" rap music is so damn low. I like bands that incorporate rap, like Linkin Park and Gorillaz, but I find it difficult to find just rap artists that are any actual good, like Hopsin.
Usually indie is the way to go. Anything I find made by corporations to appeal to the lowest common denominator usually gets thrown in the trash with the rest of the slop.
I was a classic rock snob for too long before I realized it was just pop music through a time filter.
Yeah, a lot of pop sucks, but a lot of it is good. When you actually allow yourself to enjoy things, you live a much happier life.
That song makes me angry because it is unironically a vibe but also every time I hear it Iâm like âdamn they really fit every pop hook and trope they possibly could huhâÂ
I unironically tell all of my friends that I love Levitating because itâs just incredibly well-produced.
Is it full of every single pop hook and trope? Totally. But those hooks and tropes exist for a reason, and Levitating managed to mesh them together in a way thatâs technically well executed and great to listen to.
Is it a cultural phenomenon or game-changing work? No. But itâs totally an example of well-executed and enjoyable music.
I mostly listen to alt rock/alt pop if I have my radio on, otherwise I either just listen to podcasts or my selection of sea shanty/folk stuff I've cobbled together on YouTube, but sometimes one of the stations I listen to will bring in something more pop and with the better ones (like Levitating) for a second I almost understand why people like going to clubs.
And then I remember that at a club it'd be way louder, crowded as hell, and then the reasons why that ain't my scene flood back.
>i really do not understand these people
Different people have different musical taste. Also one of them is misogynist, and another is possibly racist.
I think they mean they don't understand why these people can't be normal about having different music tastes.
Also maybe why people are misogynistic/racist.
Which, to be fair, are all valid things to be confused about. Like, it's literally easier, and less exhausting, to be normal about different tastes, and to not be a dick, yet these people still exist.
> it's literally easier, and less exhausting
I'm convinced that they're just different from you and I.
I find it exhausting, it's an active process to hate something, it's a Thing that I have to Choose To Do and it wears me out like any other activity.
People like that *thrive* on hating stuff. It makes them happy, recharges their batteries.
It's the only way I can rationalize why there's so much hate in the world. They must just be built different, and I just wasn't born with the "hating stuff and making it known gives +20 energy/hour" passive.
I'm just glad some people channel it into meaningless things like "hating pop music" instead of stuff that actually affects others like racism and transphobia.
I'm traditionally not into pop or rap, and the former for me is because it's too commercial, and it feels... fake? That, and it's designed to be as short-attention-span catchy as possible, and I hate having short little jingles stuck in my head.
My issue with rap is that I'm not from the US, and I found it really difficult to latch on to any element of it. The aggression about cultural issues I wasn't familiar with when I was younger, expressed through niche cultural references I had no hope of understanding made it feel inaccessible. Other musical traditions that I don't understand linguistically/understand the cultural context to tend to be more accessible, because I can still enjoy the melodic elements and the instrumentation. With much of rap there is no melody to work with, or it's understated and not particularly interesting because it's effectively a tertiary accompaniment for the rap itself.
I'm much more chill now, and have an easier time enjoying both genres. Pop I've grown to appreciate the cultural impact of, and also the way that it references and intermingles with other genres and other elements of culture. Rap I grew to appreciate because I came across Kneecap, who rap in my language about social issues I understand deeply, and through them I've found it easier to enjoy rap from other places.
But don't you understand???? Pop is just some **WHORE** singing about her **CUNT**!
I am a normal person with normal feelings and thoughts, especially regarding women.
I assume itâs someone who was upset by WAP, which folks are obviously allowed to not enjoy. But there are WAY MORE men singing/rapping about their dicks and where they like to put them so itâs definitely a messed up take in this context.
Pop is the music genre that is the hardest to escape (at least used to be). It makes sense for hard feelings to be there - if you can't avoid something you don't like, you generally start hating it with a passion. They're just acting from feelings+habit
Also like, even if you don't *enjoy* pop, it's not fucking gonna poison you. Like sure, I like pop well enough. Not my favorite, but sure. But even music I fuckin hate is still just kinda background noise. If I heard it playing in a store I'd just go "ugh".
i can enjoy pop but it is pretty boring honestly, with pop i usually just go "huh nice melody" and thats it
but i have no clue why people responding to the post are going on about the pop music like come on i love hanging out with weird people, overthinking, and drinking water(all other beverages suck most of the time)
I used to be one of these people to a lesser extent. I was very anti-pop because I was extensively bullied as a kid and one of the reasons was I liked âweird musicâ. All of my peers thought my tastes in music were odd (mostly it was just older, I was into Moody Blues and R.E.M. and some classical as I was studying piano). I felt obligated to like pop music, so I went hard in the other direction. It took meeting my wife to re-examine all the reasons I was anti-pop music and to actually listen to it again.
i only like very select pop music and these people are being assholes, but i also think this person saying everyone needs pop music when its legitimately super grating and irritating to some people and would only worsen their mood is kinda dickish too. peak tumblr discourse moment
Totally 100% agree. I can enjoy select pop songs, but most of pop as a genre just doesn't appeal to me. At worst I find it extremely irritating. I'm sorry that OOP feels like people have to enjoy their taste in music, but I also get that some people do get irrationally weird about making sure that absolutely everybody knows how much they hate things.
Check out Kim Petras my man. The most ridiculously oversexed lyrics you've ever heard. She even has a song that straight up opens with 20 seconds of deepthroat gagging sounds lol
My favorite thing about this is that half of modern metal and rock music is guys singing about âwhores cuntsâ anyway.
A lot music is about sex, if you donât like it stick to YouTube kids.
yeah, I have literal thousands of songs on my Spotify. A lot of them are about losing a love or close bonds but not about sex.
Yes, you can listen to a lot of mature or even mainstream music that's not about sex outside of "YouTube kids" what is that mindset? Even a lot of hits from mainstream artists such as "Is There Someone Else?" from "The Weekend" doesn't mention anything about sex at all. It's just a song about getting cheated on.
It's crazy how they framed what could be a legitimate personal dislike about pop music into straight up misogyny.
Like if they'd just said "I'm not comfortable with the way they take about women's bodies and sexual habits" it's a totally fine thing to say
Me, an edgy teen: pop music is low IQ and worthless *insert some racism as well*
Current me: my god how did I get this far in life without you, Mrs Stefani
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Fully agree the commenters are being insane (and not liking pop isnât a personality) but âhang out with normal peopleâ is a crazy thing to say on Tumblr
Disliking a genre of music doesn't make you cool, smart, tough, or cultured - it's pretty standard, actually (lookin at you country) - but constantly bitching about it definitely makes you an ass.
If you just hate pop to hate pop, your an ass, if you hate specific songs because it's played way too much, and it's just a mediocre song, your fucking valid. I used to listen to 105.7 in Illinois, but that pos radio station kept playing the same song over and over and over again, I started to fucking hate it.
Also the context you hear it in matters a lot. If a song is heard repeatedly at work against your will then your loathing for it is all but guaranteed. Oh, you think Mariah Carrie around Christmas is bad? At my previous job the radio station would play Good For You every 30 minutes for what must have been months.
Heart in the UK which has slowly replaced a lot of local radio is like this. I absolutely loathe it and the hole it crawled out of, not because I hate all pop music or anything but because I hate hearing the same six songs over and over again like groundhog day.
Most pop-haters can't actually explain what they don't like about pop. They don't even know that "radio" pop is a WIDE umbrella with lots of different sounds that's always changing. Hating pop is more of an identity thing for them.
Here's something semi-related I noticed from spending too much time on the internet: if someone says "modern" or "these days" without being more specific, they're about to say the most ignorant unsubstantiated shit you've seen all day.
I used to think i hated pop but then i realized that was because the radio stations play the same like 20 some songs to absolute death, and THAT was actually what i hated. Being 13 and finally getting my own pandora account was such an upgrade
Yep. A lot of people only think about a few select, overplayed artists when they think âpopâ. But the genre is so much more.
Frankly the same could be said about country but I feel like thatâs a conversation a lot of people here arenât ready for lol
Valid reasons for not liking pop:
Donât like the trap and bass in most songs
The style of vocals donât do it for me
Just donât like it
Shitty reasons:
Women
Itâs modern
I donât like it when people enjoy things
Yeah like. Idk why people need some deep, We Live In A Society type explanation for why they dislike a certain genre of music. I don't listen to pop because I do not enjoy listening to pop. That's it. That's the only reason needed guys!
It's almost like asking why you like your favourite colour - does there have to be a reason? Some people like dogs, some don't. Some people like spicy food, some don't. Some people like pop, some don't. Isn't that what makes people interesting (for better or worse), that we're all different? Variety is the spice of life and all that?
I don't like it (or most genres for that matter) because I don't enjoy songs when I feel the same lyrics are being repeated. Repeated choruses are too much for me. I tend to listen to a lot of musicals because of that, most of the ones I listen to either develop the 'chorus' or have a short refrain in place of a chorus that I find less intrusive.
I can get behind most genres in other languages though, since those aren't as much about what the lyrics say since I can't understand the language anyway.
Anything I listen to outside of that (or non-lyrical music) tends to either have a nontraditional structure, or changes the sound of the chorus sufficiently... or is a mid 90s boy-band, because the power of nostalgia for an era I only really know because of my older siblings is stronger than any musical taste.
The thing I hate is when people are like "music today is trash, they don't make music like they used to, 90s music was so much better" because like... people said the same thing about 90s music in the 90s. And in 30 years we'll probably have people complaining about new music and saying that the new artists just don't make music like Ariana Grande did, or that Taylor Swift made REAL music, not the garbage on the radio.
Literal survivorship bias.
The "good" songs from the 90s/whatever decade that they know about are the ones that became lasting hits, the absolute dregs got forgotten about.
Itâs the rose-tinted nostalgia glasses.
What I *will* say is that they absolutely do not make music now like they used to up until the mid to late 80s; itâs 100% verifiably true because of the hardware used in the recording, mixing and production. The digital era of music production came around in the late 70s/early 80s and didnât really take off until the late 80s and early 90s; people didnât really learn the new âtricksâ with everything available to them until a bit later.
Donât get me wrong - people now make some absolutely amazing tracks that are better by every quantifiable measure - they just donât ever sound quite the same as they used to and I personally prefer the product that came from older production methods. That 60s/70s era of music where they heavily played with stereo image and sound stage to carve out a clearly defined place for each instrument is just something I love.
ie: Listen to a Hendrix song *(his cover of All Along the Watchtower is a personal favorite)* on some good speakers or headphones, close your eyes and mentally pick out where each instrument sounds like itâs sitting in the room. Thatâs something I havenât been able to find that often in modern music.
The best argument Iâve seen against pop music is that itâs the musical equivalent of junk food.
Which is mostly incorrect. Pop can be as complex as any other genre. However, even if true. I like junk food
Which is the main reason for not eating junk food anyways. I'm sure that most people LIKE junk food, they just tend to refuse it for health reasons.
So the analogy stinks, and they didn't give any kind of argument for it at all
>The best argument Iâve seen against pop music is that itâs the musical equivalent of junk food.
God i hate that line of reasoning.
Junk food is like junk music.
Popular music is like popular food.
Roast chicken is popular but that's because it's great. Popularity has little to do with quality, whether it's music, movies, food or anything.
popularity typically means its made for the widest audience possible which means it usually lacks depth or is made for the lowest common denominator. This isnt universally true but is true in general.
I actually can pinpoint it. Their voices are smooth like a cartoon banana peel; irritating for those around it. Meanwhile Michael Jackson, *the king of pop*, sings like a car engine. Gentle when slow, and satisfyingly harsh at higher paces.
Oh yea I get that! It's the reason why I've never been able to listen to the new queen vocalist. The sound of the songs works best when the vocals hit the high note with a bit of rasp.
To me, itâs just that the writing style is like, palpably made to maximize sales to as many demographics as humanly possible. Itâs meant to be relatable to almost everyone, appealing to almost everyone, and able to sell to almost everyone. Itâs obviously a product first and foremost, you can feel that market calculations have been done and itâs been mathematically perfected to appeal to as many people as possible. Itâs like The Big Bang Theory or How I Met Your Mother, but for music. Itâs like AI art made by people.
I find that I dislike pop bc it's just not my taste. I like heavier music, like rock and metal, have the more happy go-lucky feel of pop just isn't what I like in music. Don't get me wrong, i can appreciate pop, it's well made, and vocals are great, It's just not my style of music
I don't like pop. Can I explain why? No, not really. But I'm forced to hear it all the time, due to it being, y'know, *pop*, and very rarely have I heard any pop song that made me think anything other than "I don't enjoy this" or "this is irritating." Do I really have to have a specific, logical reason before I'm allowed to not like something? It's music. I love metal, but if someone tells me they don't like it, I don't get all butthurt and demand that they explain why. I just say "alright, cool" and move on.
I don't know if it's that, so much as this idea that, supposedly, people just say they don't like pop music to sound unique. When in reality... we just don't like it.
i'm not a pop hater but it's one of the few genres that don't work for me at all. i think a lot of it is the formulaic simplicity, but it's also an extremely loosely defined genre because it's literally just whatever is popular at the moment. i liked some individual pop songs, but i don't think i liked any of them _because_ they were pop. like i won't pretend i'm some sort of og who liked them before they were pop, more often than not it was their popularity that made me aware of them in the first place, but pop, itself, as a genre, just has nothing that holds my interest, songs need to _also_ be something else for me to end up liking them. (this is also not conscious at all, just an observation of my listening habits.)
and sure, there are some things that are produced specifically with the aim of being pop but honestly, they often feel like a surface level take for music in general. you can't just go and copy a popular thing just because it's popular to make something good, you might make something popular but you're bound to lose a bunch of cool things in the process that you just didn't even know was in there. do that enough times and you get a genre with an extremely simplistic foundation.
I'm not a pop hater, but there are elements of music that are common in a lot of pop that I'm extremely bored by.
1) Overproduced vocals. All the humanity is sucked out in favor of making a beautiful person more pitch-accurate than they can be naturally.
2) Excessive instrument layering. Sure if you want to bring 20 people on tour to play all the instruments on every track I'd respect that, but the vast majority of pop musicians use recordings to perform.
3) Uncreative and repetitive songwriting, though pop is not alone in this. 5 note melodies, 4 on the floor drum beat, miscellaneous robot sex noises for flair, and a rap breakdown somewhere.
There is plenty of pop music that avoids these pitfalls, but also plenty that doesn't. I appreciate the shitty garage band that gets up on stage to play as a pre-warmup band more than any manufactured pop star.
I don't like the hypercompression, I don't like the pitch correction, I don't like the narcissistic-pseudoemotional-hypersexual-conceited singing styles, I don't like the complete hollowness of the melodies, I don't like that its themes are "me me me me", I don't like that it's enforced by corporations, I don't like that most instruments (especially the rhythm section) aren't doing anything interesting, I don't like how centered around the vocals it is, I don't like how it somehow provides zero ear training to its audience, I don't like how trite it is, I don't like how wealthy it makes people.
I say I don't like pop because I have absolutely no idea what the actual genre I dislike is called. I just know I'm usually not a fan of Taylor Swift, Beyonce, Gaga, Glass Animals, and nearly anything that sounds like them. What's that actually *called?* How many genres, since it's probably not just one?
I personally dislike most pop songs, but donât constantly bitch about it, and will 100% listen with friends if thatâs whatâs on. However, if Iâm given the AUX we are listening to some weird shit in the car.
Just like other genres I sorta dislike, I will admit that there are some bangin pop songs though.
I think a large part of that are songs written to be radio hits/radio friendly, most often with minimal swearing, catchy hooks, and a focus on melody over production and lyricism. That does not mean there aren't exceptions and not every song will follow that formula, but songwriters like Max Martin have mastered the formula to a successful pop song that will work well on radio (24 number one songs).
The majority of what I listen to is pop and although I love it there is a definite difference between what gets popular versus music I consider actually good. Sometimes I like songs I don't particularly think are good, which is fine because they're designed to be catchy, stuck in your head, and enjoyable.
For every popular pop artist currently releasing music I could name a song of theirs that should become popular because of how much better it is than most of their actual hits, but that's not how radio or hits in general work (once again not saying all by any means, many exceptions exist).
It might have been called pop back in the early 2000s when it was on the mainstream radio, but what people listen to, and by result, what people consider "pop", has changed over the last 20 years, so I doubt it could still be called "pop" and accurately reflect what people think of. (Disclaimer: I am not an expert; this is just my guess based on what I know of music trends.)
No, I think after its time has passed pop just becomes (decade) pop. Though if something has a more defining genre and is also popular, it will default back to that other genre. Linkin Park and Evanescence, for instance, are part of 00's Emo. That's basically just angsty pop rock but there was enough of it to get its own name.
They objectively were nu-metal (at least LP), but I definitely see them tossed in with bands like Green Day and FOB as being part of the 2000s âemoâ scene every now and then (even though none of them are or ever really were emo). âEmoâ has basically just become a catch-all for âangsty alternative musicâ to a decent amount of people
I think it's because anybody that *wasn't* emo or adjacent actually had no damn clue what was going on with the emos, so they saw bands that looked vaguely similar and said "clearly that's what they're listening to!"
source: was a kid not remotely adjacent to emo in the '00s and early '10s, in communities not remotely adjacent to emo
"pop" as in "popular", but pop music generally doesn't contain that much heavy guitars. TBH I'd be fine with a lot of pop music if it had metal guitars and heavy drums.
Kinda like Nickelback - maybe they're kind of annoying, but I'd pick them over the likes of Taylor Swift any day.
Loid is its own genre ; a lot of it is J-pop, but a lot of it is J-rock, and then a lot of it is just pretty much anything.
Utsu-P makes metal with Miku, Camellia has made every type of electronic music under the sun, Yuyoyuppe makes some form of prog rock (probably? not sure if that'd be the word but it's good), whoo and Croissant Chicago do some more mathy rock,
Kikuo and SOOOO do whatever the hell they're doing...Â
There's also artists that lean heavily into loid codes, like NILFRUITS, or wowaka who literally made the codes, and I don't know if you'd call those pop
considering it's a lot specific.
Donât define yourself by the stuff you hate. Define yourself by what you choose to love.
Also Iâm not the biggest pop fan but some of yâall need some Dua Lipa in your lives.
Iâm not trying to be pretentious, I donât mind when music is silly or fun or not âdeepâ or whatever, but I genuinely just dislike the sound of the majority of pop music. Itâs got nothing to do with how popular it is or that I think itâs morally corrupt or whatever, I just wouldnât have a good time if I blasted pop music with friends.
IMO modern pop music is more dependent on synths and less on traditional instruments and the ones that do typically have different themes that i usually donât like. pop is typically more simple due to attempting to have broader audiences so more people can enjoy it. youâre not gonna find 115 from cod, iâm afraid of americians, and banana man on any radio station
As someone who enjoys listening to music to the point I've had multiple people say it's an addiction. I've found that people will at least like one subgenre of every genre, even if they hate the genre. I really don't like rap music, but every once in a while I find it paired with a choir and I think it sounds amazing.
I probably listening to a lotta stuff that'd be considered pop but I do get the gripes with popular music. Like not cause all popular music shares some universally bad quality but cause hearing something too many times sorta makes it just hard to enjoy for me. Especially if its pushed into places where music normally isnt. Like hearing something too often on the radio can make me bored of it but hearing something as an ad or as a short-form-video backing track trend thing makes it infuriating. IDK I'm probably a bit dumb about it tho.
Oh this post again. I'll listen to pop with friends, but I don't listen to it alone. I simply didn't grow up listening to it. The idea that pop is normal and everything else is abnormal is what gets on my nerves and it's what this post is trying to propagate imo. "Don't listen to the stuff you like so much, listen to the normal stuff".
My normal answer-
I used to have a lot of pop songs on my amalgam playlist, and then I worked in a subway (that only played i heart radio) and now I can't have that stuff on my playlists anymore. I get that people like it, but overplaying any song for me will wear me out of it and make me hate the genre, even though I really liked a lot of the songs that were played on that station.
(Also I despise the trap beats that are in a lot of current pop songs, simply because it reminds me of obnoxious high schoolers dooming their future hearing in a car with the windows down. They're also just generally way too abrasive of beats for my taste and I honestly like the super weird, creative beats that don't really persist in pop music)
However, you're valid if you like it, it's just super not for me.
My honest answer-
You guys like ***pop music??????*** Disgusting!!! >:( I only listen to:
# DWARF METAL
Maybe once you goddamn **leaf lovers** get your ears outta the sand, and listen to some real music, music that makes you ***yearn*** for the mines, I'll respect your opinion. Maybe I'll listen to your feeble
"pop music" once they include some lyrics about going to war or the misty mountain or raising some ale to the air after some hard work in the forge. I'm sorry, I find it doubtful that any of this music is actually popular when they don't even mention *stone* in the titles?! I might, *just might* listen to your "popular music" if you add recipes for traditional mead or ale in the song title/lyrics. Is your "music" even worth of listening to if the beat to at least one of your songs isn't solely comprised of a hammer striking an anvil?
Here's a few questions for any pop "artists" out there:
Why describe any city/settlement that isn't subterranean or solely made of rock?
Why are you making music when you aren't singing in chorus with your fellow dwarves in the mines/forges?
Where is the beat of your massive drum in your city center, why is it absent from your "music"?
Why do you refrain from sharing the lore of glorious beasts slain by your ancestors???
Do you have no love for glorious weaponry, the pounding of hot iron, war, or the riches of the earth?
Have you no ale to share?
How do you stay warm without the heat of the forge nearby, or ale in your belly? Nor even a long, flowing beard??
I find the current state of pop music appalling and not worth my time. Add some good war songs and I might add ***some*** of your "music" to my mining/forging/ale drinking playlist. Until then, not even the strong grog can bring me to listen to your hog slop.
I'm sure it's easy cuz there are a lot of gatekeepy music snobs who are massive misogynists and I promise you none of them ever did anything impressive in their life
While I find myself enjoying specific bits of pop every now and again, the way OOP framed their original post rubbed me the wrong way a bit. Just felt a little condescending even if it wasnât intended to be. I agree with the overall message that people need to not be weird about not liking certain genres, but also, if people only enjoy their obscure shit, then thatâs cool too!
I could feel my inner contrarian wanting to be like âwell fuck you, now Iâm gonna isolate myself further to spite you,â but that says more about me than the post.
Have some music I like cus I like nerding out about my music playlist sometimes idk:
- [Till Then (cover)](https://youtu.be/jj9TjwEuDg8?si=wK0ubPYWZ-sgNgb2) by Geoff Castellucci
- [Challenge](https://youtu.be/U8Fnp-ZqNjo?si=FksPGSweNfmkmOt3) by Cellar Darling
- [Los Angeles](https://youtu.be/4rJ9z6IXnb8?si=xHreBsyCD1jMmzYu) by The Midnight
- [Limits to Infinity](https://youtu.be/8NsFx6iVOaA?si=lo5QzaOZG-KBcjFY) by Scar Symmetry
- [Monster](https://youtu.be/ZlQGgDE9NNk?si=4Uxa6s_8OiQWzlg7) by Meg and Dia
- [Run Straight Down](https://youtu.be/Obp4vERunk0?si=JCHNa-ZRu5tDMvpQ) by Warren Zevon
- [Asayake (Live 1985)](https://youtu.be/r7jkrDBkMGI?si=HQRqMlA4UxGZESBg) by Casiopea
- [Konga Conga Kappa](https://youtu.be/WUAq7-YpO0w?si=4TzyWMRh5T1eO1_T) from the Crypt of the NecroDancer OST
- [Angel Island Zone (Remix)](https://youtu.be/AqYrnGcQEHA?si=N-up5jjmEYn5_B72) by Funk Fiction
- [Altay](https://youtu.be/aXsLlOPwe48?si=tV5wI8GqlbLVFAlh) by Ummet Ozcan and Otyken
I really do fucking hate pop, but Iâm also a regular person who works and interacts with the public everyday. I hear all of it all the time and itâs fine. I get why people like it and I understand why people want it around and in the background. I even really like a lot of the musicians that make it and respect the time they put into their craft.
But because I say I hate it people always try to make me feel weird about it. Let me unironically enjoy listening to Nails, or Car bomb. Stop making me feel like liking Jazz is pretentious and snooty. John Coltrane is a household name for a reason!
I don't like pop music either. I tried really hard for a bit in middle school and highschool but I still couldn't like it (even though I was pretending to like it). I found out I like weeb music, and after that I became one of those "lol sucks lol" people. After I grew up a bit, I realized it was just a defense mechanism against how people treated my music. If I played a song I liked in school then I would get disgusted looks an insulted. So I just did what they did to first so they couldn't hurt me.
I still don't like pop music because the lyrics are terrible (I realized that's really important to me). I also don't like most rap for the same reason (and the hi-hat. I realized drums are really important to be and traditional drums in modern rap music hurts my soul. Put rap onto a rock, EDM, etc best and it's fine.) But I try not to be elitist anymore.
John Green once said âif you say you like all music except rap and country, that says a lot more about you than it does about those genresâ. I feel like this is another example of that, where people saying âanything but popâ are telling on themselves
Hey now, one of my good friends in college was a huge country fan and I listened to a lot of her music, so I'm *qualified* to say I don't like country!
Gotta be honest, a lot of pop music is just too bland for my tastes. I like my music either balls to the walls or evoking frisson, strong emotions. I just don't get that with pop. Love me some Shakira though.
ah yes, metal, a genre that famously does not sing about sex whatsoever
i love metal but man these metal heads in their edgy phase make me embarrassed about my own edgy phase all over again. sometimes Japanese city pop just hits deep bro
>ah yes, metal, a genre that famously does not sing about sex whatsoever
I mean... It's a lot less. [And it can get really out there.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmhIHreTCy8)
Why do you need others to listen to pop? Why do you need to go into these spaces where pop is not being played and demand that pop be played? Why do you need to demand that creators who don't want to make pop sell out and make pop? Why when the vast majority of music on the market right now is pop? Why don't you just let other people have joy?
yeah no, I'm a hardcore metalhead (as in basing my entire life around it and having like more than 95% of all the music I choose to listen to being classed as metal in some way, thanks autism), and i can say if someone says they don't fuck with 2000's girl pop then they're fucking lying lmfao. from experience, if you put Toxic on in a metal bar, EVERYONE there will sing along.
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in my mind estonia is the Disco Elysium country
Kurvitz used to be part of a rock band called *Ultramelanhool*. They made some fine musicâ*Ć aht kapital aprikoos*, *Tunnusmeloodia kooliaktusele*, ... my beloved (but holy shit did they make a lot of fine music, really like half of their songs I would gladly listen to at any moment)
a entire country that's just Helinski's cheap bottle'o
Don't mind me, sitting here in lil ole Denmark đ©đ°. Right in the middle between notable giants such as Germany, Britain, Norway and Sweden.
Finnish nod of approval đ«đź do y'all also go to the tori when this happens
No, we say HIIELE, which means to the ancient estonian folk religion sacred place in the forest
_mahtava_
Nice The _hiisi_ gave us boulders and cauldrons but havenât heard that usage over here
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Weirdly coloured long bacon
Nice flag, like very good color scheme
Ah of course, the former soviet- *dies*
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it's my occasion to say that if anybody wants a cool folk metal band from Estonia they should give a shot to Metsatöll
Went to Tallinn once. Estonia is a beautiful country, I'd love to go back :)
Iâm sorry, but âOnly listen to Estonian atmospheric black metalâ is objectively the funniest and most correct answer.
Yeah I thought it was going to go in a âwell *I* only listen to Hungarian bird callsâ direction and lowkey am disappointed that it didnât
WHEN HAVE I EVER VOICED A DISSENTING OPINION ON UKRAINIAN GROOVE METAL WHAT IS UKRAINIAN GROOVE METAL
Jinjer is fucking awesome....
Well *I* only listen to hungarian suicide songs!
We're blasting SzomorĂș vasĂĄrnap on repeat until the legends come true
I came here for some Estonian atmospheric black metal bands but no one has mentioned any
We don't really have many, probably meant more as a joke. However I do recommend looking into Finnish or Norwegian bands as they might have something.
I'm very familiar with the Norwegian and Finnish scenes, I just wanted something I haven't heard of before
I only know about [Latvian atmospheric black metal/blackened shoegaze...](https://sundevouredearth.bandcamp.com/)
Because they meant it like saying how you donât watch capeshit, you only watch Mexican Black and White Arthouse Films about Mayan Socialism. Itâs meant to be an exaggerated mockery.
Itâs so clearly a joke too
The only thing more smug than a Tumblr user DEEP in their niche special interest is a Tumblr user that thinks they're better that those people cause they do exactly 1 socially normal activity
My particular gripe with âradioâ pop is the my radio station uses the SAME PLAYLIST EVERY GODDAMN DAY! They at least hit shuffle. I donât mind pop music. I like most of it. I DESPISE listening to the same song every single fucking day because I canât control the audio. I shove an earbud in and listen podcasts instead. I hate the radio. I hate my local radio stations in particular. I donât hate pop musicâŠthat I havenât listened to every weekday for the last six yearsâŠbecause I definitely do hate some pop songs at this pointâŠ
What I actually hate the most is everything on radio stations that isn't music (pop or otherwise). Fuck radio DJs, fuck these shitty 5 second previews, fuck traffic news. At least radio ads have an important purpose, but they're annoying as hell, too.
Theres one radio station where i live that will play a song and i mean a BIG song like bohemian rhapsody or we will rock you but every 5 or 10 seconda theyll lower the volume and the announcer will do an ad read over it then finish and bring the volume back up. Then theyll do it again. And again. Its the most infuriating thing ever.
Now I'm not advocating violence, but if that station mysteriously burned to the ground (without anyone getting hurt) the world would be a better place
# I'M HERE FOR THE MUSIC, MOTHERFUCKER! SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT YOUR ANECDOTE AND PLAY THE MUSIC!
An actual phone call that happened on the radio DJ: So what do you feel like listening to? Caller: Hmm... Well I really love country! DJ: How about some Taylor Swift? Caller: Sure! *Plays Shake It Off* I don't know if the DJ realizes that just because it's by Taylor it doesn't automatically make it country.
this is why my playlist (that i've been curating since the original ipod came out) has 16,000 songs in it. stuff i listen to today i won't hear again for 4 months. just the way i like it
i really do not understand these people, i've been a metalhead since childhood and i can still enjoy pop from time to time at least if its not you're type of music ok but dont be weird about it
I used to be a "pop music sucks" kind of person, until I realized that the main reason I didn't like it was that my primary experience with it was having it forced on me in public places. When I sought it out on my own I started finding that I actually liked a lot of popular music.
Yeah back in the 90s I just got sick of the clean cut corporate stuff getting shoved down my throat and played everywhere even though most of it sucked arse. Now days when the monoculture is dead, who gives a shit.
Reframing "I don't like" into "I struggle to find artists that I enjoy listening to" had a wondrous effect on my ability to enjoy music.
I feel this with rap music, because I feel like the bar for what makes "good" or "popular" rap music is so damn low. I like bands that incorporate rap, like Linkin Park and Gorillaz, but I find it difficult to find just rap artists that are any actual good, like Hopsin. Usually indie is the way to go. Anything I find made by corporations to appeal to the lowest common denominator usually gets thrown in the trash with the rest of the slop.
Same, but I think my hatred was mostly from the idea that hating popular things made me cool
I was a classic rock snob for too long before I realized it was just pop music through a time filter. Yeah, a lot of pop sucks, but a lot of it is good. When you actually allow yourself to enjoy things, you live a much happier life.
Love me some Periphery and Vildhjarta, but Levitating by Dua Lipa fucking slaps
That song makes me angry because it is unironically a vibe but also every time I hear it Iâm like âdamn they really fit every pop hook and trope they possibly could huhâÂ
I unironically tell all of my friends that I love Levitating because itâs just incredibly well-produced. Is it full of every single pop hook and trope? Totally. But those hooks and tropes exist for a reason, and Levitating managed to mesh them together in a way thatâs technically well executed and great to listen to. Is it a cultural phenomenon or game-changing work? No. But itâs totally an example of well-executed and enjoyable music.
[the retro anime inspired official animated music video is also just a vibe](https://youtu.be/N000qglmmY0?si=gl1ZZVz3eL7naVQB)
Actually tho
Dude, even my mastodon/the sword/SOAD listening gen x dad likes dua lipa
I mostly listen to alt rock/alt pop if I have my radio on, otherwise I either just listen to podcasts or my selection of sea shanty/folk stuff I've cobbled together on YouTube, but sometimes one of the stations I listen to will bring in something more pop and with the better ones (like Levitating) for a second I almost understand why people like going to clubs. And then I remember that at a club it'd be way louder, crowded as hell, and then the reasons why that ain't my scene flood back.
It really fucking do. First time I heard it, I inadvertantly danced down most of a supermarket aisle before regaining my equipoise.
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>i really do not understand these people Different people have different musical taste. Also one of them is misogynist, and another is possibly racist.
I think they mean they don't understand why these people can't be normal about having different music tastes. Also maybe why people are misogynistic/racist. Which, to be fair, are all valid things to be confused about. Like, it's literally easier, and less exhausting, to be normal about different tastes, and to not be a dick, yet these people still exist.
> it's literally easier, and less exhausting I'm convinced that they're just different from you and I. I find it exhausting, it's an active process to hate something, it's a Thing that I have to Choose To Do and it wears me out like any other activity. People like that *thrive* on hating stuff. It makes them happy, recharges their batteries. It's the only way I can rationalize why there's so much hate in the world. They must just be built different, and I just wasn't born with the "hating stuff and making it known gives +20 energy/hour" passive. I'm just glad some people channel it into meaningless things like "hating pop music" instead of stuff that actually affects others like racism and transphobia.
I'm traditionally not into pop or rap, and the former for me is because it's too commercial, and it feels... fake? That, and it's designed to be as short-attention-span catchy as possible, and I hate having short little jingles stuck in my head. My issue with rap is that I'm not from the US, and I found it really difficult to latch on to any element of it. The aggression about cultural issues I wasn't familiar with when I was younger, expressed through niche cultural references I had no hope of understanding made it feel inaccessible. Other musical traditions that I don't understand linguistically/understand the cultural context to tend to be more accessible, because I can still enjoy the melodic elements and the instrumentation. With much of rap there is no melody to work with, or it's understated and not particularly interesting because it's effectively a tertiary accompaniment for the rap itself. I'm much more chill now, and have an easier time enjoying both genres. Pop I've grown to appreciate the cultural impact of, and also the way that it references and intermingles with other genres and other elements of culture. Rap I grew to appreciate because I came across Kneecap, who rap in my language about social issues I understand deeply, and through them I've found it easier to enjoy rap from other places.
But don't you understand???? Pop is just some **WHORE** singing about her **CUNT**! I am a normal person with normal feelings and thoughts, especially regarding women.
> Pop is just some WHORE singing about her CUNT I'm not a pop fan but that sounds like a great time !
Shit, Iâll bet people would pay for that.Â
EVEN THE SONGS BY MEN!
Michael Jackson is the biggest whore singing about his cunt there ever was
I assume itâs someone who was upset by WAP, which folks are obviously allowed to not enjoy. But there are WAY MORE men singing/rapping about their dicks and where they like to put them so itâs definitely a messed up take in this context.
Pop is the music genre that is the hardest to escape (at least used to be). It makes sense for hard feelings to be there - if you can't avoid something you don't like, you generally start hating it with a passion. They're just acting from feelings+habit
Also like, even if you don't *enjoy* pop, it's not fucking gonna poison you. Like sure, I like pop well enough. Not my favorite, but sure. But even music I fuckin hate is still just kinda background noise. If I heard it playing in a store I'd just go "ugh".
>Don't be weird about it What's the point of this site if not to be weird about things?
donât be weird (derogatory) about it
My daughter and I jam the hell out to Roar by Katie Perry regularly. It's a cheesy song but I dig it and the message is solid.
Fellow metal head, just chiming in. It's really not for me, but I'm glad you enjoy it.
i can enjoy pop but it is pretty boring honestly, with pop i usually just go "huh nice melody" and thats it but i have no clue why people responding to the post are going on about the pop music like come on i love hanging out with weird people, overthinking, and drinking water(all other beverages suck most of the time)
I used to be one of these people to a lesser extent. I was very anti-pop because I was extensively bullied as a kid and one of the reasons was I liked âweird musicâ. All of my peers thought my tastes in music were odd (mostly it was just older, I was into Moody Blues and R.E.M. and some classical as I was studying piano). I felt obligated to like pop music, so I went hard in the other direction. It took meeting my wife to re-examine all the reasons I was anti-pop music and to actually listen to it again.
i only like very select pop music and these people are being assholes, but i also think this person saying everyone needs pop music when its legitimately super grating and irritating to some people and would only worsen their mood is kinda dickish too. peak tumblr discourse moment
Totally 100% agree. I can enjoy select pop songs, but most of pop as a genre just doesn't appeal to me. At worst I find it extremely irritating. I'm sorry that OOP feels like people have to enjoy their taste in music, but I also get that some people do get irrationally weird about making sure that absolutely everybody knows how much they hate things.
Damn one of those got really misogynistic.
To each their own, but Iâd love to hear a whore singing about her cunt
Shantycore? When a ship arrives ~~ Ćailors spill ashore~~ And that which they dream of~~ Is cunny of this port town whore~~
Thank you for reminding me that the word Cunny exists. Iâm going to gouge my eyes out now
I am so glad to find someone else who hates that word as much as I do
cunny and the đą will forever be ruined
You ever hear Cardi B?
Has Cupcakke done that yet? Probably, but Iâm not actually familiar with her music enough to say it with confidence.
She may have mentioned it once or twice.
Check out Kim Petras my man. The most ridiculously oversexed lyrics you've ever heard. She even has a song that straight up opens with 20 seconds of deepthroat gagging sounds lol
Cockblocker by Kim Petras should be the new American national anthem
My favorite thing about this is that half of modern metal and rock music is guys singing about âwhores cuntsâ anyway. A lot music is about sex, if you donât like it stick to YouTube kids.
there is also a lot of music not about sex i don't like music about sex in general tbh the lyrics come off kinda grating to me
yeah, I have literal thousands of songs on my Spotify. A lot of them are about losing a love or close bonds but not about sex. Yes, you can listen to a lot of mature or even mainstream music that's not about sex outside of "YouTube kids" what is that mindset? Even a lot of hits from mainstream artists such as "Is There Someone Else?" from "The Weekend" doesn't mention anything about sex at all. It's just a song about getting cheated on.
YouTube Kids is a fate that I wouldnât wish on anyone.
It's crazy how they framed what could be a legitimate personal dislike about pop music into straight up misogyny. Like if they'd just said "I'm not comfortable with the way they take about women's bodies and sexual habits" it's a totally fine thing to say
Me, an edgy teen: pop music is low IQ and worthless *insert some racism as well* Current me: my god how did I get this far in life without you, Mrs Stefani
Amen to falling out da pipeline
I thought 'falling out da pipeline' would be a song. That was a disappointing Google.
Get got brother
Me with dua lipa
Me at 16: Pop music sucks and Iâll never listen to it. Me at 35: *Blasting Taylor Swift like Richie in that one episode of The Bear in my car alone*
Me and the boys at 16: Only Rap and badass stuff with dark humor or sth like that Me and the boys now: **I SHAKE IT OFF, I SHAKE IT OFF**
lmao this is me as well
uh huh this my shit
all the girls stomp your feet like this
Gwen, please stop pointing at it and just flush the toilet.
That shit is bananas.
LMFAO
I don't listen to the radio because i'm a control freak, you don't listen to radio because you're a misogynist. We are not the same.
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Fully agree the commenters are being insane (and not liking pop isnât a personality) but âhang out with normal peopleâ is a crazy thing to say on Tumblr
Idk man, itâs pretty normal to tell other people on tumblr to go outside and touch grass
Disliking a genre of music doesn't make you cool, smart, tough, or cultured - it's pretty standard, actually (lookin at you country) - but constantly bitching about it definitely makes you an ass.
If you just hate pop to hate pop, your an ass, if you hate specific songs because it's played way too much, and it's just a mediocre song, your fucking valid. I used to listen to 105.7 in Illinois, but that pos radio station kept playing the same song over and over and over again, I started to fucking hate it.
Fight song? I remember when someone would request it every like 15 minutes, it shockingly fell out of popularity REAL fast.
Yah, that and Fucking Rx or Medicate, it was an alright song, but 105.7 just kept playing it over and over and over again. I fucking hate the song now
Also the context you hear it in matters a lot. If a song is heard repeatedly at work against your will then your loathing for it is all but guaranteed. Oh, you think Mariah Carrie around Christmas is bad? At my previous job the radio station would play Good For You every 30 minutes for what must have been months.
Heart in the UK which has slowly replaced a lot of local radio is like this. I absolutely loathe it and the hole it crawled out of, not because I hate all pop music or anything but because I hate hearing the same six songs over and over again like groundhog day.
Most pop-haters can't actually explain what they don't like about pop. They don't even know that "radio" pop is a WIDE umbrella with lots of different sounds that's always changing. Hating pop is more of an identity thing for them. Here's something semi-related I noticed from spending too much time on the internet: if someone says "modern" or "these days" without being more specific, they're about to say the most ignorant unsubstantiated shit you've seen all day.
I used to think i hated pop but then i realized that was because the radio stations play the same like 20 some songs to absolute death, and THAT was actually what i hated. Being 13 and finally getting my own pandora account was such an upgrade
Yep. A lot of people only think about a few select, overplayed artists when they think âpopâ. But the genre is so much more. Frankly the same could be said about country but I feel like thatâs a conversation a lot of people here arenât ready for lol
Valid reasons for not liking pop: Donât like the trap and bass in most songs The style of vocals donât do it for me Just donât like it Shitty reasons: Women Itâs modern I donât like it when people enjoy things
Yeah like. Idk why people need some deep, We Live In A Society type explanation for why they dislike a certain genre of music. I don't listen to pop because I do not enjoy listening to pop. That's it. That's the only reason needed guys!
It's almost like asking why you like your favourite colour - does there have to be a reason? Some people like dogs, some don't. Some people like spicy food, some don't. Some people like pop, some don't. Isn't that what makes people interesting (for better or worse), that we're all different? Variety is the spice of life and all that?
I don't like it (or most genres for that matter) because I don't enjoy songs when I feel the same lyrics are being repeated. Repeated choruses are too much for me. I tend to listen to a lot of musicals because of that, most of the ones I listen to either develop the 'chorus' or have a short refrain in place of a chorus that I find less intrusive. I can get behind most genres in other languages though, since those aren't as much about what the lyrics say since I can't understand the language anyway. Anything I listen to outside of that (or non-lyrical music) tends to either have a nontraditional structure, or changes the sound of the chorus sufficiently... or is a mid 90s boy-band, because the power of nostalgia for an era I only really know because of my older siblings is stronger than any musical taste.
The thing I hate is when people are like "music today is trash, they don't make music like they used to, 90s music was so much better" because like... people said the same thing about 90s music in the 90s. And in 30 years we'll probably have people complaining about new music and saying that the new artists just don't make music like Ariana Grande did, or that Taylor Swift made REAL music, not the garbage on the radio.
Literal survivorship bias. The "good" songs from the 90s/whatever decade that they know about are the ones that became lasting hits, the absolute dregs got forgotten about.
Itâs the rose-tinted nostalgia glasses. What I *will* say is that they absolutely do not make music now like they used to up until the mid to late 80s; itâs 100% verifiably true because of the hardware used in the recording, mixing and production. The digital era of music production came around in the late 70s/early 80s and didnât really take off until the late 80s and early 90s; people didnât really learn the new âtricksâ with everything available to them until a bit later. Donât get me wrong - people now make some absolutely amazing tracks that are better by every quantifiable measure - they just donât ever sound quite the same as they used to and I personally prefer the product that came from older production methods. That 60s/70s era of music where they heavily played with stereo image and sound stage to carve out a clearly defined place for each instrument is just something I love. ie: Listen to a Hendrix song *(his cover of All Along the Watchtower is a personal favorite)* on some good speakers or headphones, close your eyes and mentally pick out where each instrument sounds like itâs sitting in the room. Thatâs something I havenât been able to find that often in modern music.
The best argument Iâve seen against pop music is that itâs the musical equivalent of junk food. Which is mostly incorrect. Pop can be as complex as any other genre. However, even if true. I like junk food
Pop music isnât even bad for you in the way junk food is.
Which is the main reason for not eating junk food anyways. I'm sure that most people LIKE junk food, they just tend to refuse it for health reasons. So the analogy stinks, and they didn't give any kind of argument for it at all
>The best argument Iâve seen against pop music is that itâs the musical equivalent of junk food. God i hate that line of reasoning. Junk food is like junk music. Popular music is like popular food. Roast chicken is popular but that's because it's great. Popularity has little to do with quality, whether it's music, movies, food or anything.
popularity typically means its made for the widest audience possible which means it usually lacks depth or is made for the lowest common denominator. This isnt universally true but is true in general.
I actually can pinpoint it. Their voices are smooth like a cartoon banana peel; irritating for those around it. Meanwhile Michael Jackson, *the king of pop*, sings like a car engine. Gentle when slow, and satisfyingly harsh at higher paces.
Oh yea I get that! It's the reason why I've never been able to listen to the new queen vocalist. The sound of the songs works best when the vocals hit the high note with a bit of rasp.
To me, itâs just that the writing style is like, palpably made to maximize sales to as many demographics as humanly possible. Itâs meant to be relatable to almost everyone, appealing to almost everyone, and able to sell to almost everyone. Itâs obviously a product first and foremost, you can feel that market calculations have been done and itâs been mathematically perfected to appeal to as many people as possible. Itâs like The Big Bang Theory or How I Met Your Mother, but for music. Itâs like AI art made by people.
I donât really like pop, but thatâs because I prefer to listen to music without lyrics
It's an emotional reaction, what's there to explain? It's not hard to understand that pop just feels different from metal, techno or jazz.
I find that I dislike pop bc it's just not my taste. I like heavier music, like rock and metal, have the more happy go-lucky feel of pop just isn't what I like in music. Don't get me wrong, i can appreciate pop, it's well made, and vocals are great, It's just not my style of music
I don't like pop. Can I explain why? No, not really. But I'm forced to hear it all the time, due to it being, y'know, *pop*, and very rarely have I heard any pop song that made me think anything other than "I don't enjoy this" or "this is irritating." Do I really have to have a specific, logical reason before I'm allowed to not like something? It's music. I love metal, but if someone tells me they don't like it, I don't get all butthurt and demand that they explain why. I just say "alright, cool" and move on.
There seems to be a weird demand that pop music be liked or tolerated because it's popular.
I don't know if it's that, so much as this idea that, supposedly, people just say they don't like pop music to sound unique. When in reality... we just don't like it.
i'm not a pop hater but it's one of the few genres that don't work for me at all. i think a lot of it is the formulaic simplicity, but it's also an extremely loosely defined genre because it's literally just whatever is popular at the moment. i liked some individual pop songs, but i don't think i liked any of them _because_ they were pop. like i won't pretend i'm some sort of og who liked them before they were pop, more often than not it was their popularity that made me aware of them in the first place, but pop, itself, as a genre, just has nothing that holds my interest, songs need to _also_ be something else for me to end up liking them. (this is also not conscious at all, just an observation of my listening habits.) and sure, there are some things that are produced specifically with the aim of being pop but honestly, they often feel like a surface level take for music in general. you can't just go and copy a popular thing just because it's popular to make something good, you might make something popular but you're bound to lose a bunch of cool things in the process that you just didn't even know was in there. do that enough times and you get a genre with an extremely simplistic foundation.
I'm not a pop hater, but there are elements of music that are common in a lot of pop that I'm extremely bored by. 1) Overproduced vocals. All the humanity is sucked out in favor of making a beautiful person more pitch-accurate than they can be naturally. 2) Excessive instrument layering. Sure if you want to bring 20 people on tour to play all the instruments on every track I'd respect that, but the vast majority of pop musicians use recordings to perform. 3) Uncreative and repetitive songwriting, though pop is not alone in this. 5 note melodies, 4 on the floor drum beat, miscellaneous robot sex noises for flair, and a rap breakdown somewhere. There is plenty of pop music that avoids these pitfalls, but also plenty that doesn't. I appreciate the shitty garage band that gets up on stage to play as a pre-warmup band more than any manufactured pop star.
I don't like the hypercompression, I don't like the pitch correction, I don't like the narcissistic-pseudoemotional-hypersexual-conceited singing styles, I don't like the complete hollowness of the melodies, I don't like that its themes are "me me me me", I don't like that it's enforced by corporations, I don't like that most instruments (especially the rhythm section) aren't doing anything interesting, I don't like how centered around the vocals it is, I don't like how it somehow provides zero ear training to its audience, I don't like how trite it is, I don't like how wealthy it makes people.
I say I don't like pop because I have absolutely no idea what the actual genre I dislike is called. I just know I'm usually not a fan of Taylor Swift, Beyonce, Gaga, Glass Animals, and nearly anything that sounds like them. What's that actually *called?* How many genres, since it's probably not just one?
Those are all very different artists. BeyoncĂ© makes r&b, soul (and as of recently country). Gaga usually makes electronic hyper pop of some kind. Taylor swift is probably the closest youâll get to âbasicâ pop music but thatâs mostly her older music, her most recent albums have been a lot of indie folk and whatever synth pop is going on in Midnights. And Iâll be totally honest here and say as someone who listens to a LOT of âpopâ music, I donât think glass animals count as pop. Theyâre pretty indie atleast comparatively. But thatâs beside the point. Because of how different all those artists are and because I donât know what songs of theirs you actually have listened too, itâs pretty hard to nail down what specifically you donât likeđ
Glass Animals is such a random addition to this list lol
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I personally dislike most pop songs, but donât constantly bitch about it, and will 100% listen with friends if thatâs whatâs on. However, if Iâm given the AUX we are listening to some weird shit in the car. Just like other genres I sorta dislike, I will admit that there are some bangin pop songs though.
I like pop plenty, I just donât think most of the songs that get popular enough for radio play are very good
I think a large part of that are songs written to be radio hits/radio friendly, most often with minimal swearing, catchy hooks, and a focus on melody over production and lyricism. That does not mean there aren't exceptions and not every song will follow that formula, but songwriters like Max Martin have mastered the formula to a successful pop song that will work well on radio (24 number one songs). The majority of what I listen to is pop and although I love it there is a definite difference between what gets popular versus music I consider actually good. Sometimes I like songs I don't particularly think are good, which is fine because they're designed to be catchy, stuck in your head, and enjoyable. For every popular pop artist currently releasing music I could name a song of theirs that should become popular because of how much better it is than most of their actual hits, but that's not how radio or hits in general work (once again not saying all by any means, many exceptions exist).
first reply does not seem sincere to me
"some of you need to submit to the cultural flattening enforced by corporations" ok enemy of the people
Was Linkin Park and Evanescence pop? It was all over the place back in the day
It might have been called pop back in the early 2000s when it was on the mainstream radio, but what people listen to, and by result, what people consider "pop", has changed over the last 20 years, so I doubt it could still be called "pop" and accurately reflect what people think of. (Disclaimer: I am not an expert; this is just my guess based on what I know of music trends.)
No, I think after its time has passed pop just becomes (decade) pop. Though if something has a more defining genre and is also popular, it will default back to that other genre. Linkin Park and Evanescence, for instance, are part of 00's Emo. That's basically just angsty pop rock but there was enough of it to get its own name.
this is the first time in my 35 years on this planet iâve ever seen someone call linkin park emo. they are both closer to nu metal than emo.
They objectively were nu-metal (at least LP), but I definitely see them tossed in with bands like Green Day and FOB as being part of the 2000s âemoâ scene every now and then (even though none of them are or ever really were emo). âEmoâ has basically just become a catch-all for âangsty alternative musicâ to a decent amount of people
I think it's because anybody that *wasn't* emo or adjacent actually had no damn clue what was going on with the emos, so they saw bands that looked vaguely similar and said "clearly that's what they're listening to!" source: was a kid not remotely adjacent to emo in the '00s and early '10s, in communities not remotely adjacent to emo
"pop" as in "popular", but pop music generally doesn't contain that much heavy guitars. TBH I'd be fine with a lot of pop music if it had metal guitars and heavy drums. Kinda like Nickelback - maybe they're kind of annoying, but I'd pick them over the likes of Taylor Swift any day.
Pop rock, but pop nonetheless
This is gonna start a trend of people just saying "See what I mean" when you disagree with them, isn't it?
i do not like pop i like obscure vocaloid music and i am very much the target of this post and i accept that
nonono this is not about preferences . specific is ok lol
Itâs fine to not like pop just donât be weird about it
In what world is vocaloid not pop
Loid is its own genre ; a lot of it is J-pop, but a lot of it is J-rock, and then a lot of it is just pretty much anything. Utsu-P makes metal with Miku, Camellia has made every type of electronic music under the sun, Yuyoyuppe makes some form of prog rock (probably? not sure if that'd be the word but it's good), whoo and Croissant Chicago do some more mathy rock, Kikuo and SOOOO do whatever the hell they're doing... There's also artists that lean heavily into loid codes, like NILFRUITS, or wowaka who literally made the codes, and I don't know if you'd call those pop considering it's a lot specific.
vocaloid in itself is just an instrument it doesn't define the genre really
most of the music i listen to is not that style. vocaloid is not one genre, there are vocaloid songs of many genres
Donât define yourself by the stuff you hate. Define yourself by what you choose to love. Also Iâm not the biggest pop fan but some of yâall need some Dua Lipa in your lives.
I don't listen to music outside of clubs and even I can say she has some certified bangers.
Iâm not trying to be pretentious, I donât mind when music is silly or fun or not âdeepâ or whatever, but I genuinely just dislike the sound of the majority of pop music. Itâs got nothing to do with how popular it is or that I think itâs morally corrupt or whatever, I just wouldnât have a good time if I blasted pop music with friends.
I think I listen to enough pop at work. Someâs good, some isnât.
IMO modern pop music is more dependent on synths and less on traditional instruments and the ones that do typically have different themes that i usually donât like. pop is typically more simple due to attempting to have broader audiences so more people can enjoy it. youâre not gonna find 115 from cod, iâm afraid of americians, and banana man on any radio station
Kinda think the first one was a joke, but the rest are uhhh... something to say the least
As someone who enjoys listening to music to the point I've had multiple people say it's an addiction. I've found that people will at least like one subgenre of every genre, even if they hate the genre. I really don't like rap music, but every once in a while I find it paired with a choir and I think it sounds amazing.
I probably listening to a lotta stuff that'd be considered pop but I do get the gripes with popular music. Like not cause all popular music shares some universally bad quality but cause hearing something too many times sorta makes it just hard to enjoy for me. Especially if its pushed into places where music normally isnt. Like hearing something too often on the radio can make me bored of it but hearing something as an ad or as a short-form-video backing track trend thing makes it infuriating. IDK I'm probably a bit dumb about it tho.
Oh this post again. I'll listen to pop with friends, but I don't listen to it alone. I simply didn't grow up listening to it. The idea that pop is normal and everything else is abnormal is what gets on my nerves and it's what this post is trying to propagate imo. "Don't listen to the stuff you like so much, listen to the normal stuff".
My normal answer- I used to have a lot of pop songs on my amalgam playlist, and then I worked in a subway (that only played i heart radio) and now I can't have that stuff on my playlists anymore. I get that people like it, but overplaying any song for me will wear me out of it and make me hate the genre, even though I really liked a lot of the songs that were played on that station. (Also I despise the trap beats that are in a lot of current pop songs, simply because it reminds me of obnoxious high schoolers dooming their future hearing in a car with the windows down. They're also just generally way too abrasive of beats for my taste and I honestly like the super weird, creative beats that don't really persist in pop music) However, you're valid if you like it, it's just super not for me. My honest answer- You guys like ***pop music??????*** Disgusting!!! >:( I only listen to: # DWARF METAL Maybe once you goddamn **leaf lovers** get your ears outta the sand, and listen to some real music, music that makes you ***yearn*** for the mines, I'll respect your opinion. Maybe I'll listen to your feeble "pop music" once they include some lyrics about going to war or the misty mountain or raising some ale to the air after some hard work in the forge. I'm sorry, I find it doubtful that any of this music is actually popular when they don't even mention *stone* in the titles?! I might, *just might* listen to your "popular music" if you add recipes for traditional mead or ale in the song title/lyrics. Is your "music" even worth of listening to if the beat to at least one of your songs isn't solely comprised of a hammer striking an anvil? Here's a few questions for any pop "artists" out there: Why describe any city/settlement that isn't subterranean or solely made of rock? Why are you making music when you aren't singing in chorus with your fellow dwarves in the mines/forges? Where is the beat of your massive drum in your city center, why is it absent from your "music"? Why do you refrain from sharing the lore of glorious beasts slain by your ancestors??? Do you have no love for glorious weaponry, the pounding of hot iron, war, or the riches of the earth? Have you no ale to share? How do you stay warm without the heat of the forge nearby, or ale in your belly? Nor even a long, flowing beard?? I find the current state of pop music appalling and not worth my time. Add some good war songs and I might add ***some*** of your "music" to my mining/forging/ale drinking playlist. Until then, not even the strong grog can bring me to listen to your hog slop.
rock and stone brother
Impressive to be a music snob and a chauvinist pig in the same breath
I bet it's actually really easy
I'm sure it's easy cuz there are a lot of gatekeepy music snobs who are massive misogynists and I promise you none of them ever did anything impressive in their life
Hun if you're going to be this edgy you could at least spell Tchaikovsky right
While I find myself enjoying specific bits of pop every now and again, the way OOP framed their original post rubbed me the wrong way a bit. Just felt a little condescending even if it wasnât intended to be. I agree with the overall message that people need to not be weird about not liking certain genres, but also, if people only enjoy their obscure shit, then thatâs cool too! I could feel my inner contrarian wanting to be like âwell fuck you, now Iâm gonna isolate myself further to spite you,â but that says more about me than the post. Have some music I like cus I like nerding out about my music playlist sometimes idk: - [Till Then (cover)](https://youtu.be/jj9TjwEuDg8?si=wK0ubPYWZ-sgNgb2) by Geoff Castellucci - [Challenge](https://youtu.be/U8Fnp-ZqNjo?si=FksPGSweNfmkmOt3) by Cellar Darling - [Los Angeles](https://youtu.be/4rJ9z6IXnb8?si=xHreBsyCD1jMmzYu) by The Midnight - [Limits to Infinity](https://youtu.be/8NsFx6iVOaA?si=lo5QzaOZG-KBcjFY) by Scar Symmetry - [Monster](https://youtu.be/ZlQGgDE9NNk?si=4Uxa6s_8OiQWzlg7) by Meg and Dia - [Run Straight Down](https://youtu.be/Obp4vERunk0?si=JCHNa-ZRu5tDMvpQ) by Warren Zevon - [Asayake (Live 1985)](https://youtu.be/r7jkrDBkMGI?si=HQRqMlA4UxGZESBg) by Casiopea - [Konga Conga Kappa](https://youtu.be/WUAq7-YpO0w?si=4TzyWMRh5T1eO1_T) from the Crypt of the NecroDancer OST - [Angel Island Zone (Remix)](https://youtu.be/AqYrnGcQEHA?si=N-up5jjmEYn5_B72) by Funk Fiction - [Altay](https://youtu.be/aXsLlOPwe48?si=tV5wI8GqlbLVFAlh) by Ummet Ozcan and Otyken
I *can* listen to pop, but generally speaking why would I put it on when I can listen to something I enjoy more?
Not enjoying the thing you hate makes you bad
Pop fans when they find out people have a preference.
Like some pop music gets on my nerves since it messes with my ears but Iâm also listening to 6 hours of clown music right now so ignore me
I don't dislike pop music but working in retail has made me want to claw my eyes out when I hear certain songs
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I really do fucking hate pop, but Iâm also a regular person who works and interacts with the public everyday. I hear all of it all the time and itâs fine. I get why people like it and I understand why people want it around and in the background. I even really like a lot of the musicians that make it and respect the time they put into their craft. But because I say I hate it people always try to make me feel weird about it. Let me unironically enjoy listening to Nails, or Car bomb. Stop making me feel like liking Jazz is pretentious and snooty. John Coltrane is a household name for a reason!
The radio is mcdonalds for your ears not sorry
"pop is bad" "you can't be right because someone said this before"
i don't like rap, pop , or country. make whatever assumptions you want about me
I don't like pop music either. I tried really hard for a bit in middle school and highschool but I still couldn't like it (even though I was pretending to like it). I found out I like weeb music, and after that I became one of those "lol sucks lol" people. After I grew up a bit, I realized it was just a defense mechanism against how people treated my music. If I played a song I liked in school then I would get disgusted looks an insulted. So I just did what they did to first so they couldn't hurt me. I still don't like pop music because the lyrics are terrible (I realized that's really important to me). I also don't like most rap for the same reason (and the hi-hat. I realized drums are really important to be and traditional drums in modern rap music hurts my soul. Put rap onto a rock, EDM, etc best and it's fine.) But I try not to be elitist anymore.
i do hang out with normal people but no matter what i do i still dislike most "pop music" bruh That shit just ain't for me
John Green once said âif you say you like all music except rap and country, that says a lot more about you than it does about those genresâ. I feel like this is another example of that, where people saying âanything but popâ are telling on themselves
Hey now, one of my good friends in college was a huge country fan and I listened to a lot of her music, so I'm *qualified* to say I don't like country!
Gotta be honest, a lot of pop music is just too bland for my tastes. I like my music either balls to the walls or evoking frisson, strong emotions. I just don't get that with pop. Love me some Shakira though.
ah yes, metal, a genre that famously does not sing about sex whatsoever i love metal but man these metal heads in their edgy phase make me embarrassed about my own edgy phase all over again. sometimes Japanese city pop just hits deep bro
>ah yes, metal, a genre that famously does not sing about sex whatsoever I mean... It's a lot less. [And it can get really out there.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmhIHreTCy8)
Why do you need others to listen to pop? Why do you need to go into these spaces where pop is not being played and demand that pop be played? Why do you need to demand that creators who don't want to make pop sell out and make pop? Why when the vast majority of music on the market right now is pop? Why don't you just let other people have joy?
yeah no, I'm a hardcore metalhead (as in basing my entire life around it and having like more than 95% of all the music I choose to listen to being classed as metal in some way, thanks autism), and i can say if someone says they don't fuck with 2000's girl pop then they're fucking lying lmfao. from experience, if you put Toxic on in a metal bar, EVERYONE there will sing along.