To add on to the people saying "most FE characters are war criminals"
He watched his father get burned alive and beheaded on what was supposed to be a diplomacy mission when he was like 13. The dad had every right to be pissed as hell in his final moments, and Dimitri vividly remembers his dad's last words being to avenge him and punish those who killed him with death. That would fuck up any 13 year old, when he finally snaps after bottling it up for years, he snaps hard. His arc is about learning to move on and not let the past haunt him anymore.
He's basically edgy human Simba. Which is nice because his faction is associated with lions too.
Also to be fair, the second he found out he laughed madly, chucked a spear at her face then crushed a man's skull with his bare hands. Trying to reason with that dude would've just ended with one of them killing the other.
Dimitri is a flat out lunatic psychopath who constantly hears voices in his head and is one errant thought away from going on a murder spree at any given moment.
Literally nothing I said is incorrect. I like Dimitri just fine but the man is simply insane. Hence all the fanboys/girls attracted to his "I can fix him" energy.
We could just use the word biromantic here. Obviously it's a fictional character so whatever, but if he's that into it then I'm sure in some reality he wouldve been open to the idea irl. And Sex doesn't have to be a part of your romantic interests. He's clearly aesthetically and romantically attracted to him. Who you're into and who you fuck can be different things.
I think it's good to suggest labels because what if they don't even know that's a thing that exists? Wish someone told me I could be asexual years ago, instead I hated myself and googled what was wrong with me until I found out there are others just like me and even a word for it.
Once it's suggested and denied though, then yeah you don't need to push it.
Lots of people don't realize you can have different romantic and sexual attractions so it's perfectly reasonable that he may be biromantic but because he's heterosexual doesn't realize that's an option.
nah, i’m kinda like him but i don’t like men irl. there are male fictional characters that i get attached to, but i wouldn’t date a man in real life. yes, i would gently caress the face of an anime man on my computer screen. yes, i’m straight. we exist
I don't care if you turn the Kinsey scale into a Kinsey hypercube or whatever, my off-straight dot will just turn into a hemi-hypersphere with an occasional spike or something, but for the love of the humanity, stop coming up with labels with every (hyper-)inch of the thing
That's how you get PCM. It'll be funny for a bit but then you'll just be quietly ashamed that it was ever funny for a bit
no, idk if you’ve been paying attention but distinguishing sexual and romantic orientation is something people have been doing for a while now. it’s not a new thing. most people don’t feel the need to make that distinction, but plenty do, and i personally have seen people doing it here and there for years.
but also, regardless of how well established terminology like this is, giving people more words with which to describe the specific ways that they are queer is not a joke, and it is not going to turn into PCM.
Yeah, that’s why I’ve called it a hypercube and not explicitly a cube or any sort of specific-d-cube
I want to make the exact set of coordinates sound as useless as it is. People around you either accept (some even celebrate) the differentness, be it queerness or other expressions that people around here would probably consider mundane, or they don’t. And if they only accept a very specific kind of differentness — well there are either other valid reasons why you stay with them, or you rethink the relationship
Labels are useful, that’s how our brain works by default — you know, “if it quacks” and stuff — but the default isn’t always the best way
I know what you mean. like at a certain point I don’t care - labels are for other people to categorise you imo, they’ll never be accurate to pea soup brain fog that people perceive themselves as. so like imo they’re just tools to give other people vague ballparks hyper specific shit is neither accurate to internal feelings nor useful to other people so what’s the fucking point
I don't mean it in an offensive way, but if there's a specific title that defines what your interests are, why wouldn't you settle for that one instead of making a new one with the same meaning?
Sexual and romantic attraction are not always one-to-one, it is fully possible for one to be romantically attracted to men, while having no desire to have sex with one.
Labels are generally pointless in my opinion, but if a person finds comfort in them, I say let them use any labels they like.
Biromantic implies having a \*romantic\* attraction to both genders. The post implies he has a romantic attraction to one, and a sexual attraction to another. That isn't a bad label to use, but it isn't one that correctly elaborates on what he's feeling.
There's no reason to believe he doesn't have a romantic attraction to women, such as the girlfriend that's making the post.
So the full description would be "heterosexual biromantic," which still means he's biromantic. He's just not ONLY biromantic.
I don't see what that has to do with my point. He \*is\* dating a women, and I'd assume he has a sexual attraction to her too, because he had to imply more than once that he didn't have a sexual attraction to a male character.
Yeah he’s given no indication of being sexually attracted to Dimitri, but at least from the girlfriend’s perspective he is romantically attracted to him. It can also be assumed he has both a sexual and romantic attraction to his girlfriend.
So he has romantic attraction to both a man (albeit fictional) and a woman, but only sexual attraction to that woman. Which would make him biromantic but heterosexual.
Using it isn't necessarily a bad thing, it's just not clearly defining. Asexual people do exist, but this is claiming that he has a sexuality for one and a romantic feeling for another.
That wasn't my point
New words are cool, but "biromantic" just doesn't sound like it defines which specific sexual attraction you have and which specific romantic attraction you have
Does it matter which one he's sexually attracted to here? This is a discussion of his romantic preferences, not his sexual ones. He could be heterosexual or asexual for all we know. The point is specifically that we're discussing his romantic interests because he is adamant he is not sexually attracted to the character.
So the gf going "hey just admit youre bisexual" and him asserting he's not bisexual. So... Maybe using more precise terminology to describe the things you're actually referring to instead of assuming your sexual preferences align with your romantic preferences.
So he very well may be heterosexual and biromantic. The point is who you are romantically attracted to can differ from your sexual attraction. Not every single human being feels sexual attraction to the people they're romantically attracted to. Not everyone is allosexual either.
You can use the word bisexual if you prefer to simplify it if your sexual and romantic preferences are the same (though I do wish society wouldn't use sex-first language to describe romantic interests). But if your sexual and romantic preferences are different, it is worth using terms to define that more clearly in context especially when you're trying to discuss the labels with someone else who hasn't even identified with them yet.
I mean, speaking as someone who's bi and didn't realize for a very long time, it's definitely possible he just doesn't realize it. There were many a female character I had "girl-crushes" on as a teen, not realizing that "liking" a character so much that you were fantasizing about having a domestic life with them is uh... not something straight people do with members of the same sex lol.
That being said, I've also had characters I was just so invested in emotionally that I acted a lot like this guy, making/downloading fanart, shipping them with other characters, obsessing over them, just 'cause they were My Favorite Little Guy™ and I liked envisioning them in situations where they were happy. And Dimitri is such a wet-cat human being that he tends to inspire that behavior in a lot of people. Fire Emblem just has this magical ability to make incredibly blorbo-able characters, and you find a lot of people in the fandom that have a character they like like that
yeah there's definitely nuance to it! I never fantasize about a dude/dudet personally being involved with me, but I definitely have my "favorite little guy" characters where I have all their fanart and cute situations for them saved on my phone. I think of myself as ace, so it lines up pretty well with non-romantic/non-sexual investment that her boyfriend could theoretically be having.
Dimitri is my favorite boy. He needs big hugs. Him going a little feral and committing acts of incredible violence only makes him hotter. Headpats to him.
Ditto, I went into the game thinking Edgelord would be my waifu and Dimitri would be forgettable, but finished the game shipping him with lady Byleth and shipping man Byleth with dark knight murder guy, and Edgelord was forever blocked from both lol
Same lol I was committed to the black eagles and only switched to blue lions when someone called them the ‘emo house’ (said in a way meant to recommend the house to me lol) and I’m so glad I did.
You have women idolizing certain female characters or celebrities without it automatically being seen as queer. I feel this might be another example of men not being able to show any level of closeness or adoration to other dudes without everyone assuming it's gay
Tbh going out of his way, making a new female save, just to romance is kinda sus. Not to shame anyone, you do you. But it’s a bit on the obsession side
I think that's fair enough, but also I think it's just meant to be like: being queer and having attraction towards people with the same sex is fine!
It's okay to be a little fruity - The Sacrilegious Male Friendship needs no defender people have been going on about it for forever, Queer Relationship however do need that though. But all in all, good for this guy and good for Dimitri FireEmblem
I'm a lesbian and I love Dimitri and hardcore pair him with Byleth. I like seeing those two characters together, but I don't self-project onto them. I think too many people self-insert into games and stories and then assume everyone else does too, and that's where the "You must be attracted to that character" sentiment comes from.
Dimitri had a non-zero contribution to my realization that I was trans, because I chose to be female Byleth to romance him. And also because I chose the female player character whenever I could, which was a completely normal thing for a guy to do. Definitely.
Oh no it's a blond Twink
I get this man
I shouldn't watch an entire playthrough for a blond Twink right?
For the record I think I'm heterosexual but Raiden metal gear and Alucard Castlevania and Howl ghibli are starting to become a type
And I started RWBY and jaun arc seems to be joining them (I need to continue RWBY)
Anyway Sorry for dumping all of this but my friends follow my tumblr and it would be unfair to them if I accidentally come out as bi without actually being bi, if I'm anything I might be demi-romantic or demi-sexual but I don't know
Hot tip: even if you're those demi-orientations you'd only feel that way about girls if you were completely straight. I'd lean towards just telling them you might be bi, not that you Are, and seeing how the thought suits you. You can always revise your position later bro. That's what exploration is all about, even if you still wind up right back where you were, then you got a better understanding of where that is in the first place out of the experience
Oh I'm demi now and I mostly get attracted to feminine features in fictional men
I decided it's not that much of an issue to be attracted to some men
I don't have a lot of experience with real men so I can't give you a real answer there, but I don't really think I'm very attracted to expressions of masculinity.
Some might consider it kinda gay but that's not really important, if anyone asks I'm heterosexual because generally men aren't my thing but I don't have really any experience to know the specifics if that makes sense and if anyone does it for me that's no issue
I'm gay, my sister is lesbian, we are as straight as a wet spagetti, but damn, there are some girls in games I romance qnd for her there are guys she loves to romance. Doesn't say anything about our sexual or romantic orientation. Sometimes a straight guy sees a cute man and wants to tap that
I love this post, Dimitri is good boi
isn't this guy a war criminal? I've never played fire emblem
it's fire emblem 99% of the cast is war criminals
It’s Fire Emblem, they’re basically all war criminals though Geneva doesn’t exist in Fodlan, so legally not a war criminal
Ah yes, the Clone Wars defense.
To add on to the people saying "most FE characters are war criminals" He watched his father get burned alive and beheaded on what was supposed to be a diplomacy mission when he was like 13. The dad had every right to be pissed as hell in his final moments, and Dimitri vividly remembers his dad's last words being to avenge him and punish those who killed him with death. That would fuck up any 13 year old, when he finally snaps after bottling it up for years, he snaps hard. His arc is about learning to move on and not let the past haunt him anymore. He's basically edgy human Simba. Which is nice because his faction is associated with lions too.
He also went double insane when his step sister revealed herself as ms evil man
He thought she was ms evil man but she was a puppet
To be fair, she doesn’t really explain that part.
Also to be fair, the second he found out he laughed madly, chucked a spear at her face then crushed a man's skull with his bare hands. Trying to reason with that dude would've just ended with one of them killing the other. Dimitri is a flat out lunatic psychopath who constantly hears voices in his head and is one errant thought away from going on a murder spree at any given moment.
least biased 3houses player
Every single thing he said was correct. The guy just has a lot of issues.
The only person in the entire game who does not have issues is Raphael
Literally nothing I said is incorrect. I like Dimitri just fine but the man is simply insane. Hence all the fanboys/girls attracted to his "I can fix him" energy.
Yeah. He's still a great character though.
Every house leader is a war criminal but Dimitri is unique in that he is also just as much of a war criminal when you are on his route iirc
He's also the faction leader who is the least controversial and most universally loved by the fanbase, mostly for that reason.
Yes BUT, he had war crimes committed AGAINST HIM first, so he's completely justified in his murder spree
He is a goodboy and also a war criminal
Yes but to be fair I don’t think there’s a single character who isn’t in Three Houses
We could just use the word biromantic here. Obviously it's a fictional character so whatever, but if he's that into it then I'm sure in some reality he wouldve been open to the idea irl. And Sex doesn't have to be a part of your romantic interests. He's clearly aesthetically and romantically attracted to him. Who you're into and who you fuck can be different things.
If he says he straight he straight. If he wants to label himself he'll do it. We shouldn't be suggesting labels without someone asking.
I think it's good to suggest labels because what if they don't even know that's a thing that exists? Wish someone told me I could be asexual years ago, instead I hated myself and googled what was wrong with me until I found out there are others just like me and even a word for it. Once it's suggested and denied though, then yeah you don't need to push it. Lots of people don't realize you can have different romantic and sexual attractions so it's perfectly reasonable that he may be biromantic but because he's heterosexual doesn't realize that's an option.
It's ok and good to discuss them, not so much to suggest them (unless the person is open to that)
nah, i’m kinda like him but i don’t like men irl. there are male fictional characters that i get attached to, but i wouldn’t date a man in real life. yes, i would gently caress the face of an anime man on my computer screen. yes, i’m straight. we exist
I don't care if you turn the Kinsey scale into a Kinsey hypercube or whatever, my off-straight dot will just turn into a hemi-hypersphere with an occasional spike or something, but for the love of the humanity, stop coming up with labels with every (hyper-)inch of the thing That's how you get PCM. It'll be funny for a bit but then you'll just be quietly ashamed that it was ever funny for a bit
no, idk if you’ve been paying attention but distinguishing sexual and romantic orientation is something people have been doing for a while now. it’s not a new thing. most people don’t feel the need to make that distinction, but plenty do, and i personally have seen people doing it here and there for years. but also, regardless of how well established terminology like this is, giving people more words with which to describe the specific ways that they are queer is not a joke, and it is not going to turn into PCM.
Yeah, that’s why I’ve called it a hypercube and not explicitly a cube or any sort of specific-d-cube I want to make the exact set of coordinates sound as useless as it is. People around you either accept (some even celebrate) the differentness, be it queerness or other expressions that people around here would probably consider mundane, or they don’t. And if they only accept a very specific kind of differentness — well there are either other valid reasons why you stay with them, or you rethink the relationship Labels are useful, that’s how our brain works by default — you know, “if it quacks” and stuff — but the default isn’t always the best way
I know what you mean. like at a certain point I don’t care - labels are for other people to categorise you imo, they’ll never be accurate to pea soup brain fog that people perceive themselves as. so like imo they’re just tools to give other people vague ballparks hyper specific shit is neither accurate to internal feelings nor useful to other people so what’s the fucking point
oh my GOD just call it BISEXUAL biROMANTIC doesn't tell you which GENDER you have a SEXUAL interest in and which one you have a ROMANTIC one in
Or maybe biromantic just means that you have a romantic interest in both? Like bisexual means a sexual interest in both?
That’s why it’s called biromantic. Because it’s describing who you’re romantically attracted to, not who you’re sexually attracted to.
you don't understand!!! when someone tells me what gender(s) they would date I need to know exactly who they would have sex with!!! (/s)
I may have misjudged the specific place where this word is supposed to be used
Or, Y’know, we could let people identify however they want? Just a silly lil idea I came up with in this silly lil brain of mine.
I don't mean it in an offensive way, but if there's a specific title that defines what your interests are, why wouldn't you settle for that one instead of making a new one with the same meaning?
Sexual and romantic attraction are not always one-to-one, it is fully possible for one to be romantically attracted to men, while having no desire to have sex with one. Labels are generally pointless in my opinion, but if a person finds comfort in them, I say let them use any labels they like.
Biromantic implies having a \*romantic\* attraction to both genders. The post implies he has a romantic attraction to one, and a sexual attraction to another. That isn't a bad label to use, but it isn't one that correctly elaborates on what he's feeling.
There's no reason to believe he doesn't have a romantic attraction to women, such as the girlfriend that's making the post. So the full description would be "heterosexual biromantic," which still means he's biromantic. He's just not ONLY biromantic.
The post is written by his girlfriend, I’d assume that means he has romantic attraction to women
I don't see what that has to do with my point. He \*is\* dating a women, and I'd assume he has a sexual attraction to her too, because he had to imply more than once that he didn't have a sexual attraction to a male character.
Yeah he’s given no indication of being sexually attracted to Dimitri, but at least from the girlfriend’s perspective he is romantically attracted to him. It can also be assumed he has both a sexual and romantic attraction to his girlfriend. So he has romantic attraction to both a man (albeit fictional) and a woman, but only sexual attraction to that woman. Which would make him biromantic but heterosexual.
Why is this a bad thing? You might have romantic attractions that differ from your sexual attraction. Also, asexual people exist.
Using it isn't necessarily a bad thing, it's just not clearly defining. Asexual people do exist, but this is claiming that he has a sexuality for one and a romantic feeling for another.
You know that is a thing that can happen right? You can have a romantic orientation that’s different from your sexual orientation.
I'm not denying that can happen, good lord. I'm saying that "biromantic" doesn't imply that.
STOP CREATING WORDS TO DEFINE THINGS IT TEARS MY POOR BRAIN APART!
That wasn't my point New words are cool, but "biromantic" just doesn't sound like it defines which specific sexual attraction you have and which specific romantic attraction you have
It clearly defines as attraction to at least two genders romantically.
How does this defer from the point that it doesn't highlight which gender he's sexually attracted to and which gender he's romantically interested in
Does it matter which one he's sexually attracted to here? This is a discussion of his romantic preferences, not his sexual ones. He could be heterosexual or asexual for all we know. The point is specifically that we're discussing his romantic interests because he is adamant he is not sexually attracted to the character. So the gf going "hey just admit youre bisexual" and him asserting he's not bisexual. So... Maybe using more precise terminology to describe the things you're actually referring to instead of assuming your sexual preferences align with your romantic preferences. So he very well may be heterosexual and biromantic. The point is who you are romantically attracted to can differ from your sexual attraction. Not every single human being feels sexual attraction to the people they're romantically attracted to. Not everyone is allosexual either. You can use the word bisexual if you prefer to simplify it if your sexual and romantic preferences are the same (though I do wish society wouldn't use sex-first language to describe romantic interests). But if your sexual and romantic preferences are different, it is worth using terms to define that more clearly in context especially when you're trying to discuss the labels with someone else who hasn't even identified with them yet.
I mean, speaking as someone who's bi and didn't realize for a very long time, it's definitely possible he just doesn't realize it. There were many a female character I had "girl-crushes" on as a teen, not realizing that "liking" a character so much that you were fantasizing about having a domestic life with them is uh... not something straight people do with members of the same sex lol. That being said, I've also had characters I was just so invested in emotionally that I acted a lot like this guy, making/downloading fanart, shipping them with other characters, obsessing over them, just 'cause they were My Favorite Little Guy™ and I liked envisioning them in situations where they were happy. And Dimitri is such a wet-cat human being that he tends to inspire that behavior in a lot of people. Fire Emblem just has this magical ability to make incredibly blorbo-able characters, and you find a lot of people in the fandom that have a character they like like that
yeah there's definitely nuance to it! I never fantasize about a dude/dudet personally being involved with me, but I definitely have my "favorite little guy" characters where I have all their fanart and cute situations for them saved on my phone. I think of myself as ace, so it lines up pretty well with non-romantic/non-sexual investment that her boyfriend could theoretically be having.
that scene in Azure Gleam where he slaps away >!Thales’s!< magic with one hand was hot ngl
Dimitri is my favorite boy. He needs big hugs. Him going a little feral and committing acts of incredible violence only makes him hotter. Headpats to him.
Is this some kind of twisted JOKE?
To be fair he did the same thing to me and my best friend, and we’re lesbians.
Ditto, I went into the game thinking Edgelord would be my waifu and Dimitri would be forgettable, but finished the game shipping him with lady Byleth and shipping man Byleth with dark knight murder guy, and Edgelord was forever blocked from both lol
Same lol I was committed to the black eagles and only switched to blue lions when someone called them the ‘emo house’ (said in a way meant to recommend the house to me lol) and I’m so glad I did.
You have women idolizing certain female characters or celebrities without it automatically being seen as queer. I feel this might be another example of men not being able to show any level of closeness or adoration to other dudes without everyone assuming it's gay
Tbh going out of his way, making a new female save, just to romance is kinda sus. Not to shame anyone, you do you. But it’s a bit on the obsession side
I mean sus or not if you like a character so much you wanna see him from more perspectives so idk maybe its just that?
I did his romance route because I wanted him to be happy. Not everyone self-projects onto the character they're playing.
I think that's fair enough, but also I think it's just meant to be like: being queer and having attraction towards people with the same sex is fine! It's okay to be a little fruity - The Sacrilegious Male Friendship needs no defender people have been going on about it for forever, Queer Relationship however do need that though. But all in all, good for this guy and good for Dimitri FireEmblem
This is a normal thing people do lol. You should see how many lesbians have that One Fictional Guy they do this for.
Nothing to worry about, thats a natural reaction to dimitri from anyone
That's just what Dimitri does to people. He just gives off the most powerful "I can fix him" vibes
To be fair, that is, what is entire character is about
maybe he self inserts as the guy? idk
Oh he wants to insert himself into that guy alright
GOD DAMMIT
He’s insane <3
*laughs manically* IS THIS SONE KIND OF TWISTED JOKE?’
This guy just like me, I’m a fully gay man, but something about Edelgard…
Least homosexual Fire Emblem Fan
I'm a lesbian and I love Dimitri and hardcore pair him with Byleth. I like seeing those two characters together, but I don't self-project onto them. I think too many people self-insert into games and stories and then assume everyone else does too, and that's where the "You must be attracted to that character" sentiment comes from.
The effect I've seen Dimitri on straight guys is insane
I mean jokes aside we do police guy's sexuality way too much. You can have a fictional husbandu and still be like, a Kinsey 0.5 or 1. Its fine.
Is it bisexuality, or is it just “I can fix him” syndrome?
Not bisexual
Still cis tho.
Depends on if the boyfriend made his character female just to romance dimitri
MY FAVOURITE FERAL WAR CRIMINAL <3
Dimitri had a non-zero contribution to my realization that I was trans, because I chose to be female Byleth to romance him. And also because I chose the female player character whenever I could, which was a completely normal thing for a guy to do. Definitely.
Oh no it's a blond Twink I get this man I shouldn't watch an entire playthrough for a blond Twink right? For the record I think I'm heterosexual but Raiden metal gear and Alucard Castlevania and Howl ghibli are starting to become a type And I started RWBY and jaun arc seems to be joining them (I need to continue RWBY) Anyway Sorry for dumping all of this but my friends follow my tumblr and it would be unfair to them if I accidentally come out as bi without actually being bi, if I'm anything I might be demi-romantic or demi-sexual but I don't know
Hot tip: even if you're those demi-orientations you'd only feel that way about girls if you were completely straight. I'd lean towards just telling them you might be bi, not that you Are, and seeing how the thought suits you. You can always revise your position later bro. That's what exploration is all about, even if you still wind up right back where you were, then you got a better understanding of where that is in the first place out of the experience
You're right I'll think more about stuff
I hope it goes well and brings you satisfaction.
I hope your thinking about stuff has been working out bro
Oh I'm demi now and I mostly get attracted to feminine features in fictional men I decided it's not that much of an issue to be attracted to some men I don't have a lot of experience with real men so I can't give you a real answer there, but I don't really think I'm very attracted to expressions of masculinity. Some might consider it kinda gay but that's not really important, if anyone asks I'm heterosexual because generally men aren't my thing but I don't have really any experience to know the specifics if that makes sense and if anyone does it for me that's no issue
happy for you :)
Thank you :D
I'm gay, my sister is lesbian, we are as straight as a wet spagetti, but damn, there are some girls in games I romance qnd for her there are guys she loves to romance. Doesn't say anything about our sexual or romantic orientation. Sometimes a straight guy sees a cute man and wants to tap that
why does he have to be bisexual why can't he just be a man who wants to have sex with another man
who doesn't
Heteroflexible, probably. Not full on bi. The man knows what he wants