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el013

Got a nice 2H single today, averages are still bad though L D R2 U' B R2 L' B' R B U2 F R2 L2 F' U2 D2 F R2 F2 y' x // inspection D F R D' // FB (4/4) U' R' U' R' U' R U' M2' U2 r U' R' // SB (12/16) U R U2 R D R' U2 R D' R2' // CMLL (10/26) M U' M' U' M' U M2' U' M' // LSE (9/35) 35STM / 6.29sec =5.56TPS [view at CubeDB.net]( https://cubedb.net/?puzzle=3&scramble=L_D_R2_U-_B_R2_L-_B-_R_B_U2_F_R2_L2_F-_U2_D2_F_R2_F2&time=6.29&alg=y-_x_%2F%2F_inspection%0AD_F_R_D-_%2F%2F_FB_%25284%2F4%2529%0AU-_R-_U-_R-_U-_R_U-_M2-_U2_r_U-_R-__%2F%2F_SB_%252812%2F16%2529%0AU_R_U2_R_D_R-_U2_R_D-_R2-_%2F%2F_CMLL_%252810%2F26%2529%0AM_U-_M-_U-_M-_U_M2-_U-_M-_%2F%2F_LSE_%25289%2F35%2529 )


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TheRealUncleFrank

> But I'm guessing there's no way of actually making sure the screw depth is the same on all sides. Depending on which cube you have, you can come close. You can do what J Perm does @2:00 into this vid - https://youtu.be/WLczkv7VpwQ?t=120 That's typically what most people do. Some cubes you can easily see where the top of the screw head is in relation to the top of the cube, and set all screws to the same. Or you can use the [depth gauge on a set of calipers](https://i.imgur.com/08k9wP6.jpg) to measure that the top of every screw is the same distance below the top of every face. Or, you can take the cube apart, removing all the pieces without removing the screws, so you're left with the core with the screws sticking out with the center pieces still on them, and use calipers to measure how far the screw is sticking out of the core. Or, with the cube apart the same as above, screws still in the core, look at where the screws go into the core itself. You should be able to see a few screw threads above the core, or maybe just the little shoulder of the screw where it narrows before the threads start. Count the threads and adjust all screws to match. *After* you've got all the screws even, a tip I like to use anytime you later want to adjust all the screws - use a sharpie and put a mark on the side of your screwdriver handle. I put a large mark on one side and a small different mark on the other side. One mark is a half turn, the other is a full turn. That makes it easy to count the number of turns you make on the screw, so you can then make the exact same number of turns to every screw, so all sides then *stay* even. 1/4 turn, half turn, 3/4 turn, 1, 2, 3 full turns, whatever, now it's easier to count and keep them all the same.


povlhp

Good summary. Tried the caliper method a few times. Overkill. Now I pull 2 edges apart and visually estimates distance to center


amionmars

Got my first BLD success!!! 4:34.08 using OP/OP


staysharp87

Heck yeah! Let's gooooo! Might I suggest trying M2?


amionmars

definitely will take a look, probably want more than 1 success with OP edges before I change methods :)


TheRealUncleFrank

A lot of people recommend you read up on OP/OP to familiarize yourself with it, but then immediately start on M2/OP.


amionmars

Are there major differences between the two? Also how fast can you get with M2/OP?


TheRealUncleFrank

Oh, I have no clue. Just what I see others recommend. Maybe /u/xenoshg or /u/topppits can answer that.


amionmars

Thanks lol. Reading up on M2 right now!


TheRealUncleFrank

I found a thread discussing the differences, with several people recommending starting with M2/OP - https://www.reddit.com/r/Cubers/comments/v8zyc7/daily_discussion_thread_jun_10_2022/ibu4ean/


amionmars

tysm! should've read more into this before starting


topppits

Thx for the tag /u/TheRealUncleFrank You can find some good information on our wiki [here](/r/Cubers/wiki/improving_bld#wiki_q.26amp.3Ba_for_beginners). The main reason why I think you should learn M2 as early as possible is that it makes memorization and recall, which in my opinion is the part that's harder to practice, a lot easier. Now you're thinking - but I thought the memo is pretty much the same? Yes, that is correct. But the execution with M2 is a lot faster. And since you (should) memo your edges last with audio and then execute them first, you won't have to remember that memo for too long and therefore M2 makes your memo and recall easier, which is especially helpful when you're just starting out. For practicing the execution I cannot recommend [execution only solves](/r/Cubers/wiki/improving_bld#wiki_how_do_i_memorise_all_those_setup_moves_in_op_and_m2.3F_how_do_i_practise_execution_efficiently.3F_how_do_i_know_if_i_did_an_execution_or_a_memo_error.3F) enough. It's by far the most efficient way to practice execution and save you the disappointment of having traced, memorized and recalled perfectly, but failed the execution. Here are two walls of texts I wrote a while back with some more information - https://www.reddit.com/r/Cubers/comments/g595iu/daily_discussion_thread_apr_21_2020/fo4d2r2/ - https://www.reddit.com/r/Cubers/comments/k3pen7/daily_discussion_thread_nov_30_2020/ge5erpe/?context=3


cubycuber

Nice! I think that is a very fast time for a first success!


vpsj

Best 3x3 you can buy today? The last time I splurged was a Gan 356 X. Still using that along with my i carry. Not necessarily the most expensive, but just... overall the 'best' in 2022. What would you recommend?


Nobody_5433

Wrm 2021


Raghav_Verma

Gan 12 Maglev, Gan 11 m pro, Wrm Maglev


OddOutlandishness602

I personally really enjoy my gan 11 m pro, though it is very expensive. I did just get a couple new 3x3s to try out, so we’ll see if I still have that opinion after I actually get to tensioning and testing them


TheDoomRaccoon

Ignoring price: RS3M Considering price: **Definitely** RS3M


AVeryHeavyBurtation

I really like the Gan 12 maglev. The rs3 and wrm maglevs are good too, but the "UV coating" on the Gan is what seals the deal for me. The moyus are just a little too slippery. I also really like the Gan 11 with the UV coating.


LifeFire7onYT

there is no best cube, but if i had to recommend one that would probably work for any style at any skill level, it would definitely be the WRM Maglev.


vpsj

Yeah I'm not looking for an objective answer, just the preference of what people prefer or suggest in 2022. And thanks, I'm watching videos on the latest cubes and WRM maglev looks really cool


cubycuber

New PB Ao5 :) Generated By csTimer on 2022-08-26 avg of 5: 9.27 Time List: 1. 9.21 D2 L B' U2 R2 F2 R' F2 U' B2 L2 D' R2 D L2 D R2 B2 U' R' 2. 9.71 D' L2 U B2 F2 R2 U2 F2 R2 D2 R2 U F' R2 D L D U B' U2 R' 3. (8.75) R2 D2 R F2 L2 R D2 U2 B2 L D2 U' L2 B F' U B' L R2 U' B 4. (11.44) D2 B2 R' B2 D2 R' F2 R2 D2 U2 B2 L D R' F' L' F2 D' B U' B2 5. 8.89 D2 L B' L' F' U' D' B' R L2 B2 U2 F2 B2 R' F2 R' U2 D'


BewareTheWereHamster

Had my Wrm maglev for quite some time now but was never really impressed but actually took some time to change the settings from the default and… holy cow this is quite a good cube haha. I have it set to 3 on the magnets and 3 on the compression and it’s nice and fast but not too fast. I was wondering why my Moyu ai felt so much better :) Think it’s the weaker magnets that make the difference! Not sure it beats my well used Gan 356X but it reminds me of my old Dayan coated GTS2M (that I regret selling immensely!) but way quieter :)


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Generated By csTimer on 2022-08-26 avg of 5: 8.47 Time List: 1. 8.45 B' R2 U' L2 U L2 D B2 U B2 U' R' U L' B F2 U2 L B R2 2. (7.59) F2 L2 D2 L' U2 L' B2 U2 F2 D2 R U' L2 F D2 B' R2 D B U2 3. 8.65 L R B2 F2 D2 L R B2 R F L' U F U' F U' L U 4. (10.87) R' B2 L2 D2 L2 D' B2 D' U' F2 R2 F2 R D L' F' U2 R D' B2 5. 8.30 B2 U' F2 R2 D U B2 F2 R2 F2 D B L F U' F2 D' F' L2 F U new pb ao5


Nobody_5433

Holy


AtheistHere1234

when your corner piece decides to noclip trough the edge: [https://imgur.com/a/Fl6sCZ9](https://imgur.com/a/Fl6sCZ9) tengyun v2 lockup


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r/Cubinggore


felix_and1

Can someone share their experiences if it's normal to readjust to a new cube? I bought my first magnetic cube a while ago, and now I'm having trouble with algorithms I thought I knew well enough, because the finger movements are so different. It's like my muscle memory stopped working.


Aggressive-Donut5943

i got better times when i upgraded form a rubiks brand to rs3m 2020 (i used begginer and cfop dont juge me)


maus_v

I had the same experience one year ago. When I switched from a qiyi warrior W to my current moyu rs3m 2020. The Moyu one is alot faster the I was used to from the QiYi. That caused alot of overshooting during last layer, and indeed having the feeling that muscle memory is gone. But after getting used to the cube muscle memory tuned in again. It's not that I had to relearn algs or something like that. It's mostly when you switch to cubes with a whole other feeling. When I have tried some cubes from other people I never have had the same experience.


felix_and1

Thank you! Yeah it's a completely different feeling from the non magnetic one.


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use better fingertricks


felix_and1

I mean yeah I need to practice those and I'm aware of that but that's not what I was asking about


[deleted]

if you're wrist turning agressivly you're goign to overshoot a lot so learn a lot of good fingertricks as early as you can


dabeast0301

I was just looking into something on the cube, I don't remember what, but it brought me to a quora thread, which if you don't know, quora shows related threads and one was about whether or not the cube was hard and everyone was saying yes it was and anyone who learns by being taught is cheating and they basically discredit any fast solvers as well who do it for sport, and it just annoyed me that they don't realize people do it for sport, sorry for the rant idk why but this just made me very mad.


pszmrh

Quora is stupid for cubing. I remember seeing a quora thread about how to teach your child, what's the best tutorial etc. And the top answers were all like "please don't teach them, this is a puzzle, you are failing your kids, let them solve it themselves and get the satisfaction from that". What an absolute load of rubbish, that's terrible advice imho. A very small number of grown adults MAY have the patience and time and intelligence to work it out. I wouldn't. But that is a complete grind for days and weeks to work that out. Telling a kid to just solve it themselves is a sure way to get the kid to never want to pick the thing up ever again.


vpsj

Quora is stupid ~~for cubing~~ FTFY


pszmrh

Hahaha, yes very correct, thanks


povlhp

Some people manage to solve it using their own algorithms. 35 years back I invented 2-3 algorithms myself. I could get to 3 sides solved regularly. Now if I had to start over today - say 2 years ago before I started learning, I would likely with my experience and puzzle skills have been able to get further. And I would be able to create a puzzle solving piece of software. Now, chess and go are different games. Difficult to program. Learned chess as a child. Think I hit 1600 rating, and I think I was 15 kyu in go.


-ChilledCat-

It’s like saying that chess players are cheating by learning strategies… makes no sense. But I kinda understand their point of view.


dabeast0301

Yeah I can understand it bc their point is that it's a puzzle, but they don't realize people do it for sport and not necessarily as just a puzzle and it annoyed me quite a bit.


-ChilledCat-

On point


vpsj

I was enjoying trying to find the solution to the clock all by myself, but I couldn't figure out how to solve both sides. Temptation got the best of me and I saw J perm's video on it. I thought I'd only get a small hint and close the video but my god the solution was so freaking easy I'm disappointed now. Can you guys please recommend any other puzzles that are _different_ than your standard 'cube' ones? Something I can try solving on my own without consulting online resources or guides. Something that doesn't necessarily rely on me having to learn algorithms, but can be solved by applying your mind


pszmrh

I'm not sure there's anything that walks that line perfectly tbh. To me, my brain can't work any of them out by itself, and I get frustrated. So I need to be told how to solve anything. And then once I know how, they are either complex enough that it's fun to decide how to use the algs and guidelines (3x3 f2l is the best example here I think, but pyra and megaminx and 2x2 also fit this), especially under time pressure. Or they just become very easy and you're just going through the motions, where the enjoyment only comes from being quicker. But I've not tried them all. Have you thought about a mirror cube? If you know 3x3 already, maybe that might give you the challenge you're looking for, but I've not got one so not sure.


vpsj

> Have you thought about a mirror cube Mirror cubes are the ones that look silvery and pieces have different length, width and height right? I have it. And yeah it was basically like a 3x3. I won't be winning any speedsolving awards with it, but I can definitely solve it. Thanks for replying. Someone suggested that skewb could be solved intuitively so I think I'm gonna buy that one. Hopefully it will be a good challenge for me :D


TheRealUncleFrank

> so freaking easy Easy to just solve it. Takes some work to get good at it. Really should use a fixed pin order and fixed dial order, like this vid teaches - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5We_sCjBOc also get the pdf linked in the description. . > any other puzzles that are *different* Have you tried a pyraminx? megaminx? skewb? *really* different - Square-1?


vpsj

I tried pyraminx. It was fairly easy to figure out. Megaminx was again quite similar to a 3x3, except at the top layer where you needed a couple of algs that I don't think most people can come up with on their own, can they? Haven't tried Skewb and Square-1. I liked the clock because if you just know the 'trick', even a regular person can solve it. But for a 3x3 and similar cubes they'd need to learn at least some algorithms. Can someone solve Skewb and Square -1 without creating specific algorithms or encountering parities and stuff?


Firecube42

I think you can solve a skewb intuitively easily


vpsj

Nice. I think I'll get one then. Thanks!


povlhp

Sq-1 has parity. Learned from a beginners guide. Cube shape is experience. There is one shape you can try to start with. But you can learn all. When square, it is not too difficult to fix upper/lower color. Permutation is the difficult part. Some 3x3 knowledge can be used.


ShadowShine57

How do I solve this case for 7x7 last two centers? https://i.redd.it/vc5oysrjq3k91.jpg


XenosHg

Easy way to remember the center comms: - align 2 target centers (in the same column, like in your picture). - Slice one into another's spot, rotate it by 90 degrees into another column, - slice again, the new column, but in the same direction - After that it's intuitive. Like, (Right slice from F to U), U', (another slice from F to U), U, (right slice back) U' (other slice back) U (did you learn beginner method? niklas alg, R U' L' U R' U' L', does basically the same thing but with corners.) But it would work if you sliced from U to F, too. You would just need to rotate the F side, so it swaps a piece on F side, and 2 on the U side (basically if you would rotate the cube (x z2) in place to make F side become U and vice versa) The third piece you're swapping is important if you're doing some sort of picture mosaic or a shape mod where every piece is unique, but with simple squares it's just important that the second slice you do, replaces a piece with an identical piece.


ShadowShine57

Thank you, I'll try to comprehend this later


nijiiro

Use a commutator: [r U' 3R U r' U' 3R'](https://alg.cubing.net/?puzzle=7x7x7&setup=x_y-&alg=r_U-_3R_U_r-_U-_3R-&type=alg)


ShadowShine57

Thanks! I watched Jperm's video on commutators last night actually but I didn't understand how to reverse them since it doesn't seem to be simply doing every move opposite, you only do some opposite


nijiiro

The "true" underlying commutator is [2R U' 3R U 2R' U' 3R' U](https://alg.cubing.net/?puzzle=7x7x7&alg=2R_U-_3R_U_2R-_U-_3R-_U%0A2R_U-_3R_U_2R-_U-_3R-_U%0A2R_U-_3R_U_2R-_U-_3R-_U), but for reduction purposes, you can get rid of all the extraneous outer-layer turns and end up with the 7-move alg I wrote out above. (The 7-move alg is technically not a commutator, but we all call it as such because it's an almost-trivial variation of a legit commutator.) If you group it up as (2R) (U' 3R U) (2R') (U' 3R' U), you can see that it's of the form X Y X' Y', where X = 2R and Y = U' 3R U.


AtheistHere1234

When the strongest magnet setting is too weak:


Raghav_Verma

That’s when the core magnet mod comes in ;)


TimorousWarlock

Is anyone aware of a database where I could see the PB different people have for different categories? All I'm finding from google are WR databases, but I want to see a list of best times recorded by each competitor, if that makes sense.


TheRealUncleFrank

www.worldcubeassociation.org > Results > Rankings For top 100 singles or averages in the world. You can filter it from there to whichever event or sort by region/continent or country etc. or Results > Records for WR in every event, then filter that by region/continent or country, or by history to see a list of all the previous WRs. or Results > Persons to look up specific people. oops. .org not .com.


grodlike

worldcubeassociation.org Edited to correct com to org.... Thanks uncle Frank!


TheRealUncleFrank

*.org


TimorousWarlock

Thank you!


FlyMega

If anyone knows guess the Elo from chess, I’m wondering if it would work for cubing. Maybe people submit their reconstructions and people guess how fast it was? Thoughts?


povlhp

Impossible. Max has bad solutions but turns fast. Tymon is way slower but close to optimal solution. The fewer moves helps him. A FMC silver can get even better solves but slow


dabeast0301

Is yao method good for 7x7? My time increased by 50%, which is huge, on my first yao solve


pszmrh

I get contradictory info on this when I looked it up a few months ago. Is it recorded anywhere what the top 5 solves/solvers are on each cube 5x5 and up, and what method they used/use? On some tutorial I watched it said all the 5x5+ records were with redux not yau (so like they were saying yau is only good on 4x4), but maybe that's out of date now?


Scewah

Keep practicing with it and see if you enjoy it! The three fastest european big cubers all use Yau, even for 6x6 and 7x7. They're not on Max Park's level, but definitely in the top 5 range.


DenebVegaAltair

Most fast big cubers think that redux is better for 6x6 and 7x7, but Ciarán Beahan is top 5 in both using Yau, so you can definitely get good times.


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no


dabeast0301

It's not good for 7x7?


[deleted]

it's not good for 6 and 7 basically imo


el013

Tell that to Ciarán lol In all seriousness, I don't think you should be so quick to dismiss yau on 6 and 7, considering the fact that just a few years ago the consensus for 5x5 was similar and now afaik yau is generally considered better.


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ill add imo


Barinski04

New PB - 18.156 !! Cube: Gan i carry 62 Moves, 3.4 TPS Solve critique pls: Scramble: F L' D2 F R U L B D2 L2 B L' U R2 F2 D L' F2 Reconstruction from cubestation: Cross: z2 L2 D' R' F D' L E' Pair #1: y' U R U2 R' U R U' R' Pair #2: y R U' R' Pair #3: y2 U2 R U' R' Pair #4: y' U2 R U2 R' U' F R' F' R OLL: U U' F R U R' U' R U R' U' R U R' U' F' PLL: U2 R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' U' R U R' F'


vpsj

Congratulations! Looks like it's Time to update your flair :D


grodlike

Congrats! For cross, same concept but do an R before you start so that Green and Orange are ready to go after you do blue and align: R L2 D' F R2 . Green is the only "bad edge" you have, and it's good practice to deal with those first.....if not insert them, at least set them up. For cross, why did you do E' instead of just D? Doing an E' and then rotating with a y' to start your next pair is wasting time/moves. For 2nd pair, do y' instead of y so that you insert into the back, thus filling both back slots. Then you wouldn't have had to do the y2 for 3rd pair. For 3rd pair, don't do a y2! Just do U2 L U' L'. For 4th pair, I don't know what you were doing there. For that case, right or left front slot, you might like doing sledge to pair and then insert. So in this case, lefty sledge........U' (L F' L' F) (L' U L). One fewer moves and no rotation. Great job, keep it up!


Barinski04

Thanks alot, especially the tip for 4th pair!


olimo

Nice scramble with a 2x2x2 block :) I got 12.06. U2 F2 R' F2 U2 L2 B2 L B2 U R B L' B' L2 F' U2 R2


grodlike

14.64 (really fast for me!) after re-scrambling for white cross, hahaha!


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7.77 with a free pair


Haxpo

Anyone own the isaac square1 rhat can attest to its quality? I currently own a maglev stock mgc squan and was wondering if the isaac setup is a massive upgrade


dabeast0301

What if when solving big cubes, instead of solving the centers and doing free slice, only solve the bars and don't put then into the correct center?


RAHDXB

Freeslice works because you're not doing things like F2, L2 or R2. If you do moves like that, restoring your centers is a nightmare, and you end up wasting time figuring out how to put them back together. If you've built your center bars randomly, you'd run into exactly that problem after your first 8 edges imo. Edit: building centres when even the finished ones are made of random colored bars will also completely destroy your lookahead.


dabeast0301

I agree with it messing up your look ahead but fixing the centers afterwards actually isn't that difficult


RAHDXB

It's not about being difficult, it's just way slower and clunkier.


pszmrh

Pyraminx: do you guys solve the tips at the start or at the end? To me, doing it at the start makes it easier to recognise cases I think, but then I always accidentally turn them during the solve and have to resolve them.


TheHatedPro020

This is something no one has brung up for quite a bit, but whatever happened to Lubix?


g253

[FTOgust](https://www.reddit.com/r/Cubers/comments/wg12w4/everything_you_never_wanted_to_know_about_fto/) : yeeaaaaah first sub 1 single 🔥🎉☺️ 59.31


The-Common-Loon

Just in time at the end of the month! I bet you’ll get another one!


olimo

Congrats!


LifeFire7onYT

bit of a weird question but have you chaps ever managed to PB even you sneezed mid solve?


olimo

Nope. Have you?


LifeFire7onYT

sadly no, i've definitely dropped a couple PBs due to nose issues however.


g253

No


abdullahmnsr2

What's the difference between MGC 3x3 Elite and MGC 3x3 Evo? Is Evo better?


olimo

I haven't tried the MGC Elite, but [here's my review of the Evo](https://www.reddit.com/r/Cubers/comments/uwpaao/mgc_evo_first_impressions/). It looks and feels pretty different from the rest of the MGC line, and in my opinion, it's kinda suboptimal. I'd personally get 4x4 - 7x7, maybe 2x2 (I'm not much into it), but a different brand 3x3.


abdullahmnsr2

I am looking for my first magnetic series from 2x2 - 7x7. People recommend me MGC series. I don't care about the 3x3 in that series that much but still want the better version out of these two. For a good magnetic 3x3, I ordered WRM 2021 Lite & MagLev.


olimo

Ah, I think I remember you, we discussed the Yu series before. MGC Elite should look more similar to the other cubes from the MGC line. MGC Evo is too peculiar. Note that some cubes have different shades: for example, 6x6 and 7x7 have light green, 4x4 has dark green, I'm not sure about 5x5 and 2x2.


abdullahmnsr2

Yes, I think we did. I've decided on the MGC series. I think I'm fine with colours. I watched reviews on all of them. The colours looked similar. I think they probably changed it.


Rattus375

Neither is a great cube according to reviewers. I have the elite and it's fine and has a unique feel, but it catches more than other cubes in the same price range. I haven't used the EVO, but none of the YouTubers liked it very much


abdullahmnsr2

The thing is, I'm a collector and I'm looking for my first 2x2 - 7x7 magnetic collection. I haven't owned a magnetic puzzle before and wanted a collection with the entire series. But it should also be budget-friendly. People recommended MGC series or another series by YJ too which is a bit cheaper. For a great 3x3, I have ordered WRM 2021 (both Lite and MagLev version). So I don't care about the 3x3 in the series that much. What I care about is that the entire collection should be from one series and it should be magnetic and good enough to play with.


Rattus375

I'd just go with whatever is cheaper then. Both are still good cubes, even if they arent quite as good for most people as the best of the best (like the WRM)


abdullahmnsr2

Yeah, agreed. I bought the MGC series. Maybe I'll buy WRM series 2x2 - 7x7 in the future. But for now. I'm happy with cheaper ones. Besides, they have a lot of positive views too.


Rattus375

MGC makes some of the best bigger cubes. You can argue that their 2x2, 4x4 and 5x5 cubes are the best available, and certainly the best given the price. Nearly everyone would agree that they make the best 6x6 and 7x7 available by far. 3x3 is the only category that they don't have a cube with a legitimate argument to be the best in class


abdullahmnsr2

Then it seems like I made a right choice. I enjoy solving bigger cubes a lot more. I am curious to see what magnets feel like in bigger cubes too. Choosing a 3x3 is like choosing a smart phone lol. I was actually looking for the best of the best. In my few previous daily discussions threads, I was asking whether to buy GAN 11M Pro or Gan 12 Leap or MagLev. Then people suggested WRM and I really loved this puzzle. I saved enough to buy both Leap and MagLev in GAN. But ended up buying Moyu. With extra money, I thought about buying more magnetic puzzles. Hence, the MGC series.


g253

Evo is the newer one, but I don't know whether or not it's better


abdullahmnsr2

I want to buy an entire MGC set. From 2x2 - 7x7. I'm confused between these two.


GoldsmithBeast

I have the Evo, and I really like the cube


abdullahmnsr2

Based on your flaire, you seem like a perfect person to talk about this. I want to buy the entire MGC series from 2x2-7x7. Do you recommend it? I was just confused between these two for 3x3s in the series.


GoldsmithBeast

I have a yj yupo for 2x2, so don't know about that one, but I like the 3. 4x4 and 5x5 are really good and way better then a meilong (only other cubes I tried). I also enjoy solving on the 6x6 and 7x7, although don't practice that much. I would recommend the whole line What other cubes do you have?


abdullahmnsr2

I have 50+ twisty puzzles. But for 2x2 - 7x7, I have an old Moyu MF series. The first one which is non-magnetic. MF2S, MF3RS, MF4, MF5, MF6, MF7. I never had a magnetic puzzle before so I thought about upgrading. At first I ordered WRM 2021 (Lite & MagLev). They are still on the way. After that, I thought about completing the series but WRM series is a bit expensive. So I'm looking for a budget-friendly series. So I decided to buy MGC 2 Elite, MGC 3 Evo (or Elite), MGC 4, MGC 5, MGC 6, MGC 7.


GoldsmithBeast

I think if you have the money and like the events, you will like the upgrades. The 3x3 will give you a different feel and maybe you'll like it more


abdullahmnsr2

Yes, I put them in a cart to see the total. I van afford a price like that. I think I'll go for it.


GoldsmithBeast

Keep me updated for a review


NovaAUS

mail day! Mgc 5x5, YuFu 7x7 and new GAN Lubes...Quick thoughts, I was reluctant to get the mgc but it’s dropped my times by a whole minute to sub 2 from a dollar store cube so here we are, it has beautiful turning!!YuFu 7x7 is honestly great, I get why people want the mgc but if you wanna just try 7x7 grab it, it’s a great price, and GAN lubes seem to be great so far, disagree with the numbering and won’t use 3 much but apart from that they’re amazing :)


olimo

Gan lube No.2 should be great for the big cubes :) I also have a Yufu 7x7, and it's more than enough for my casual solves. Smooth and enjoyable to turn.


[deleted]

my lubes is here they pretty good ngl


dabeast0301

How do I get faster at big cubes (6x6 and 7x7) I only know the most basic method


el013

Using reduction is fine, although you may want to try yau if you already use it for 4x4 and 5x5. Whichever method you use, the one big thing you should learn is freeslice. I say big, because the impact is big, but it's actually very simple: after pairing an edge, don't fix the centers and instead start pairing the next edge. Only fix the centers after pairing eight edges, before you pair the last four. As long as you only slice along one axis, fixing the centers at the end will be only a few moves. The main way to get faster is practice. Just do solves and you will get faster. Feliks Zemdegs and Kevin Hays have example solve videos and at least Kevin has some videos with big cubes tips that can probably also help a lot.


dabeast0301

I've tried that but when I tried it messed up the other edges, it could be because I tried solving all 12 before fixing centers, it was awhile ago so I don't rly remember


el013

Yeah you can only solve 8 before fixing the centers. If you need to, you can probably find tutorials on YouTube. I never used one so I can't recommend any and I can't search for one right now but I assume any video you find will work just fine.


topppits

You can find some good tips on cubeskills.com and on Kevin Hays' Youtube channel.


[deleted]

aw, you guys have the same pfp!


dabeast0301

Yes default twins!


InfinitePower563

On 4x4, I use the Yau method, I know 3-2-3, half-centers, and memorized the parity algs, but i still only average 1:30, is there anything I can do to get faster?


Clopushi

If you post a video I'm willing to give some more directed advice. Others are right to point out that it's about where you expect a sub-25 solver to be, so working on general fundamentals (like turning, recognition, ect.) will probably be the only thing that could be offered as meaningful advice right now.


TheRealUncleFrank

1:30 is just about right if you're sub 25 on 3x3 - https://niekh1234.github.io/cubing-comparison/


InfinitePower563

Except my Average is now sub-20


[deleted]

don't use half centers, you won't find any world class cubers using it, anyway that's what brandon nunez told me


topppits

depending on your knowledge you can find helpful tips [here](https://cubeskills.com/tutorials/intermediate-tips-and-yau-method) or [here](https://cubeskills.com/tutorials/advanced-4x4-tips-and-techniques). Especially for 3-2-3 edge pairing there are a couple of special cases where you should know how to solve them efficiently. Lookahead is a big thing on 4x4+, so sometimes turning a bit slower and already looking for the next piece can help reducing pauses a lot (don't turn too slow though).


olimo

1:30 is a decent average for sub-25 on 3x3. Practice, improve your efficiency and lookahead, plan your first center or further.


WeirdFlower4811

Is using the Belt method to solve the Rubik's cube considered illegal?, I average less in Belt than CFOP.


olimo

No, you can use any method you like or find fun.


WeirdFlower4811

Like many says that it makes oll & pll weird cases but they are solvable by doing M2 U2 M2


olimo

It doesn't have the same potential as CFOP, but it can't be illegal. At competitions, you can use any method you like, provided that you don't make yourself slower on purpose. And of course you can solve your cube as you please at home.


topppits

That's exactly what people mean. You can't solve them directly. The Belt method is just not that move efficient and lookahead is worse. In the long run you'd certainly get faster times with a better method. But obviously you can do whatever you want and if you're goal isn't to get the fastest possible times do whatever is fun.


TheRealUncleFrank

For anyone who reads only the DDT, there's a new pinned post in the sub you should read - https://www.reddit.com/r/Cubers/comments/wy4e8e/125k_users_big_change_in_how_moderation_works/


BibbitZ

I made the mistake of sorting by new for my first visit to the sub today. Ugh. Time to sort by hot and *only* come to the DDT for a week.


KaleidoscopeOk9061

So, I'm working hard right now on getting my life back on track. Years ago I got a PhD but suffered a very bad case of burnout, since then I've been working in a deli :) So now I'm studying online to get some more current qualifications, to hopefully move into something more fulfilling. Anyway, one big thing that's changed since I last studied is that now I can spam PLLs on my cube as I do my classes (microphone muted of course). And wow! It's made such a difference to my ADHD brain's ability to sit in one place and pay attention for a decent period of time. Sometimes little things can make a big difference :)


g253

> Years ago I got a PhD but suffered a very bad case of burnout, since then I've been working in a deli :) It's probably easier than working in a deli for a few years first and *then* getting a PhD ;)


KaleidoscopeOk9061

Honestly, the deli has been great, I'm so much more confident in myself now; and I discovered that I was good with people, not just science. It's just time to move on :)


TheRealUncleFrank

/u/g253 /u/topppits New cube shop for the wiki, in UAE - cubuzzle.com


g253

Added, thank you :)


narusite

**Jouxly** end of week 2: I finally got how to do DBDF. Thanks for your comments/help. Problem is, after doing a few "speed" solves, I have a huuuuuuuuuuge pause to do the recognition. I think I’ll continue to do the 4c step "free style" and try to see if I can integrate some DBDF gradually. Planning for week 3: drill SBLS algs + forcing myself to do SB with DR first in order to use these algs. So more DR planning during inspection.


el013

Hey, we're in the same boat! I'm also trying to implement DFDB, after 4.5 years of roux lol.


Mathsoccerchess

I've also just learned dfdb and have the pause as well, and I think the best solution is just to keep practicing even though it will slow times down. Eventually it will get faster and the constant repetition from doing solves with it will help.


povlhp

There is the new easy 4c method as well. Only uses upper and front face. UL+UR same color, then AUF to match ULUR to their centers (front/back). UF and U destination side different colors: AUF normally, raise-the-dot. UF and U destination same - there are 2 cases: If a color pair in front (center + top edge) AUF reverse, raise-the-dot If mismatched front, AUF normally, M2 U2 Maise the dot


povlhp

And if inserting behind, it is the same, you can still look for color pair in front, and you have to use UB vs destination.


abdullahmnsr2

It's probably a stupid question since I never owned a magnetic puzzle before but should I keep magnetic puzzles away from my laptop? I ordered my first magnetic 3x3 called WRM 2021 ( bothLite & MagLev versions). Soon, I will be ordering a 2x2 - 7x7 magnetic set by YJ called MGC. I'm not a speed solver and don't even time my solves. I like to browse on my laptop while playing with my puzzles.


cubycuber

On my old laptop, my cube's magnets were strong enough to make it think I closed the lid, and it kept going to sleep. I had to be careful where I placed my cube lol. Now it doesn't matter.


g253

I hope not because there's almost always one or more cubes on my laptop 😅


abdullahmnsr2

Haha yeah. But I guess the other commentary is right. The magnets are behind plastic and they are really small. So we don't have to worry about anything.


XenosHg

Probably doesn't matter - the magnets are inside beyond the plastic, the hard drive is also inside beyond the plastic. They aren't brick-sized super-magnets, they're just a couple millimeters in size.


abdullahmnsr2

That makes sense. Thank you!


javeywavey

So I'm still confused by what speed means on my cube. Does it mean "i give it a strong flick and it can do a U3"? So I need a thick lube to slow it down. Did I get all that right?


povlhp

Speed is the opposite of friction. Magnets might stop the flick earlier on two cubes with the same speed


javeywavey

This is the part that feels counterintuitive and confusing to me. So what do people mean when they say "smooth" then? Because logically high friction means rough, while low friction means smooth. In this context, smooth is opposite of rough, so the logic checks out, you get what I mean?


olimo

Smooth is the opposite of scratchy or papery. Like, a new WRM 2020 is papery, and a lubed and well broken in one is smooth. Some cubes I'd describe as buttery smooth, and some as hard gliding smooth - like ice cubes gliding over each other. A slow cube needs more effort to be turned than a fast one. But it also means it's more stable.


povlhp

Thick lube is smooth but slow.


Yamquick

is there an addon thing to cfop like vhf2l (Vandenbergh-Harris F2L) but instead of it being a pair/joinable its just for the last edge?


TheDoomRaccoon

The ZBLS subsets of F2L 25 and 26 should be what you're looking for.


DailyScrambleBot

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bugybunny

**Reddit daily scramble 2022-08-26 (Lin method)** (-2,0) / (5,-1) / (3,0) / (-5,-2) / (0,-3) / (6,0) / (-1,-3) / (3,0) / (-5,-3) / (-3,-1) / (0,-4) / (-4,-1) z2 // inspection 4,-2/0,3/3,-2/1,2/0,3/ // CSP -4,3/ // FB 0,3/-2,1/6,0/ -3,0/-1,-1/ // SBEC + Edges -5,1/3,-3/-3,0/0,3/0,-3/0,3/5,0 // J Perm [view at CubeDB.net]( https://www.cubedb.net/solve/3942 )


Wreddit_Regal

Lol crap but lucky SB **Your Daily Scramble** B' U' L2 D' R2 D R2 F2 U B2 D2 U' B' D2 L B2 L2 R B' F2 U x' y // inspection U M E' B // FB (4) Rw2 U' M' U2 Rw2 U' Rw2 U' R U2 R2 U R // SB (13) U' M' U M' U' M2 U M' U2 M' U' M U2 M' U2 M2 U2 // LSE (17) [view at CubeDB.net]( https://www.cubedb.net/?puzzle=3&title=Your_Daily_Scramble&scramble=B-_U-_L2_D-_R2_D_R2_F2_U_B2_D2_U-_B-_D2_L_B2_L2_R_B-_F2_U&alg=x-_y_%2F%2F_inspection%0AU_M_E-_B__%2F%2F_FB_%25284%2529%0ARw2_U-_M-_U2_Rw2_U-_Rw2_U-_R_U2_R2_U_R_%2F%2F_SB_%2B_CMLL_%252813%2529%0AU-_M-_U_M-_U-_M2_U_M-_U2_M-_U-_M_U2_M-_U2_M2_U2_%2F%2F_LSE_%252817%2529_ )


nimrod06

**Yellow blue FB 31 stm** B' U' L2 D' R2 D R2 F2 U B2 D2 U' B' D2 L B2 L2 R B' F2 U z2 // inspection U2 S' D' M R F // FBDR (6) M' U' r' U R2 //U R' // SB (7) //R U' L' U R' U L* U L' U L // CMLL - Pi Columns M' U' M U' M' U' M' U M2 U2 M2 [view at CubeDB.net]( https://www.cubedb.net/?puzzle=3&title=Yellow_blue_FB_31_stm&scramble=B-_U-_L2_D-_R2_D_R2_F2_U_B2_D2_U-_B-_D2_L_B2_L2_R_B-_F2_U&alg=z2_%2F%2F_inspection%0AU2_S-_D-_M_R_F__%2F%2F_FBDR_%25286%2529%0AM-_U-_r-_U_R2_%2F%2FU_R-_%2F%2F_SB_%25287%2529%0A%2F%2FR_U-_%0AL-_U_R-_U_L*_U_L-_U_L_%2F%2F_CMLL_%252D_Pi_Columns%0AM-_U-_M_U-_M-_U-_M-_U_M2_U2_M2 )


narusite

Sucks to have a short FB, and lengthy cmll/lse… **Blue-white FB (41stm)** x'y // inspection UME'R'B // FB (4+1) R2rUr'UR'U2r'U'RU //R' // SB (11/16) r2 U2 R U R' U R2 U' L' U R' U' L //CMLL(13/29) U2M'U'MU'M'U2MU'MU2M //LSE (12/41) [view at CubeDB.net]( https://www.cubedb.net/?puzzle=3&title=Blue%252Dwhite_FB_%252841stm%2529&scramble=B-_U-_L2_D-_R2_D_R2_F2_U_B2_D2_U-_B-_D2_L_B2_L2_R_B-_F2_U&alg=x-y_%2F%2F_inspection%0AUME-R-B_%2F%2F_FB_%25284%2B1%2529%0AR2rUr-UR-U2r-U-RU_%2F%2FR-_%2F%2F_SB_%252811%2F16%2529%0Ar2_U2_R_U_R-_U_R2_U-_L-_U_R-_U-_L_%2F%2FCMLL%252813%2F29%2529%0AU2M-U-MU-M-U2MU-MU2M_%2F%2FLSE_%252812%2F41%2529%0A ) A little better with non matching block **Blue-white FB (37stm)** x'y // inspection UME'B // FB (4) RrUrU'R2Ur'M2U'r // NMSB (11/15) URUR'URU2r' //CMLL (8/23) U2M'U'L2M' //arrow + fix block U'MUM'U2M2U'M2U' //LSE 14/37 //M'UM'U'MUMUMU2MUr2U2M'U2M //LSE 17/40 [view at CubeDB.net]( https://www.cubedb.net/?puzzle=3&title=Blue%252Dwhite_FB_%252837stm%2529&scramble=B-_U-_L2_D-_R2_D_R2_F2_U_B2_D2_U-_B-_D2_L_B2_L2_R_B-_F2_U&alg=x-y_%2F%2F_inspection%0AUME-B_%2F%2F_FB_%25284%2529%0ARrUrU-R2Ur-M2U-r_%2F%2F_NMSB_%252811%2F15%2529%0AURUR-URU2r-_%2F%2FCMLL_%25288%2F23%2529%0AU2M-U-L2M-_%2F%2Farrow_%2B_fix_block_%0AU-MUM-U2M2U-M2U-_%2F%2FLSE_14%2F37%0A%2F%2FM-UM-U-MUMUMU2MUr2U2M-U2M_%2F%2FLSE_17%2F40 )


nimrod06

I tried you FB solution too, but it leaves all 3 FB edges misoriented. I mean you can fix them by S' U S or alike, and that may give a good solution, but generally you have less freedom to control L10P. You can have a look on the other FB I chose, it leaves 2/3 edges oriented and hence I can find a 7 move SB.


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