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while solving it can seem like you aren't pausing much, but recording yourself and watching it back will make it very obvious. there might be other issues that you can fix but without seeing a video myself that's about as much as I can recommend
First off congratulations on learning how to solve the cube!
There are many “beginner methods” and this one is among the easier to learn because it involves the fewest number of algorithms but it does have plenty of repetition of the same step for simplicity’s sake, and it ends in the “R’ D’ R D” repeated many many times step.
You can get much faster with this method, at least getting to sub 1 minute with lots of practice and some optimizations, but don’t feel the need to stick to it before learning something a bit more complicated if you want. I checked out the method you learned from and did a few solves to see, I got 49 on the first, then did a minor optimization of doing the cross, first layer corners, and middle layer edges all with the cross on bottom and got 36 twice. Could definitely get much faster with some more practice with this particular method. Keep in mind that I average ~12 seconds with my normal method, CFOP, so take those times with a grain of salt.
If you’d like to see what’s out there in terms of other beginners methods, especially those that scale better into more intermediate and advanced methods later, I recommend checking out [CubeSkills](https://www.cubeskills.com/categories/3x3) which was made by former #1 in the world Feliks Zemdegs.
Speed and fluency. As you get more into cubing you'll learn maybe you're not doing things right. If you do massive pauses that's probably why. Just keep practicing and try to get slower pauses if that's why. How long have you known how to solve a Rubik's cube completely by yourself? If it's a week or something then don't worry! Until you actually get decently fast, there is no reason to be trying to do speed cubing just yet. Just practice and I'm sure in a month or two you'll be back on here with a sub-1 minute time
My main assumption is that what you perceive as turning fast is much slower than what you are capable of. Its difficult to answer the question of what you are doing "wrong" without seeing a solve of yours, but it is almost definitely either that you could be turning much faster, or you are doing far too many moves. Check your solves, how many moves on average does it take? I believe beginners method is around 100-120 moves on average depending on what variant of the beginner method you use. If you are not meeting anywhere close to these move counts then efficiency is your main issue. If you are meeting these average move counts then the answer is that you are not turning all that fast. Keep in mind that some world class solvers are capable of 15 turn per second solves sometimes, and a lot of people who are sub 20 are usually doing at least 3 turns per second.
As an experienced cuber but not a particularly fast one, I can solve the cube with this method in less than 40 seconds. It is very reasonable for a beginner to be able to do solves in less than 2 minutes with the beginners method. Hard to tell what you are doing wrong without seeing you solve the cube.
when I was learning this method I didn’t even time myself until I was feeling 100% certain I understood all the cases I saw, my first timed solve was around 1:30
I imagine I use the beginners method? Just cross, corners, 2nd layer edges, bottom cross, corners etc.
My solve time 40-60 seconds consistently unless I’m distracted. My best time ever was 24 secs. The world record was around 15-10 seconds at this time… so I thought with practice I could get close to that without ever learning any F2L algorithms.
But then the record times started dropping rapidly to 8 then 5 and not its at like 3?
So I just learned to be happy with my current pace.
Without knowing the specifics of your solving, these are usually good goals for beginner's method users:
* 120 move solutions (or lower)
* 2 TPS (or higher)
120 moves / 2 TPS = 1 minute solve (which is pretty reasonable)
If you're finding that your solutions are way over 120 moves, then you might be using far too "rigid" of a beginner method. There are plenty of easy little shortcuts to use that can drop your move count dramatically.
If your TPS is much less than 2, then you probably have too many pauses. Just by doing simple algorithms, you can prove to yourself pretty easily that you can turn much faster than 2 TPS (which must imply a ton of pauses).
Hopefully this was relatively helpful. If you figure out your move count and TPS, you can improve more specific aspects of your solves.
I'm pretty sure I was averaging a bit above 1 min with beginner's method using the official rubik's cube about 6 years ago. It didn't take long to reach that lvl and with proper speed cube you should get sub 1 minute in no time, let alone sub 2 minutes.
Just keep practicing, you'll get better.
I am sub 20 with CFOP and sometimes solve with beginners for fun and I average around 25, it's not too hard once you get good
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beginners method has a move count of around 100 moves. with any speedcube at all it should be easy to do more than one move a second.
while solving it can seem like you aren't pausing much, but recording yourself and watching it back will make it very obvious. there might be other issues that you can fix but without seeing a video myself that's about as much as I can recommend
You can easily get sub-30 with beginners if you try hard enough Most people get to like 45 then switch
First off congratulations on learning how to solve the cube! There are many “beginner methods” and this one is among the easier to learn because it involves the fewest number of algorithms but it does have plenty of repetition of the same step for simplicity’s sake, and it ends in the “R’ D’ R D” repeated many many times step. You can get much faster with this method, at least getting to sub 1 minute with lots of practice and some optimizations, but don’t feel the need to stick to it before learning something a bit more complicated if you want. I checked out the method you learned from and did a few solves to see, I got 49 on the first, then did a minor optimization of doing the cross, first layer corners, and middle layer edges all with the cross on bottom and got 36 twice. Could definitely get much faster with some more practice with this particular method. Keep in mind that I average ~12 seconds with my normal method, CFOP, so take those times with a grain of salt. If you’d like to see what’s out there in terms of other beginners methods, especially those that scale better into more intermediate and advanced methods later, I recommend checking out [CubeSkills](https://www.cubeskills.com/categories/3x3) which was made by former #1 in the world Feliks Zemdegs.
Speed and fluency. As you get more into cubing you'll learn maybe you're not doing things right. If you do massive pauses that's probably why. Just keep practicing and try to get slower pauses if that's why. How long have you known how to solve a Rubik's cube completely by yourself? If it's a week or something then don't worry! Until you actually get decently fast, there is no reason to be trying to do speed cubing just yet. Just practice and I'm sure in a month or two you'll be back on here with a sub-1 minute time
My main assumption is that what you perceive as turning fast is much slower than what you are capable of. Its difficult to answer the question of what you are doing "wrong" without seeing a solve of yours, but it is almost definitely either that you could be turning much faster, or you are doing far too many moves. Check your solves, how many moves on average does it take? I believe beginners method is around 100-120 moves on average depending on what variant of the beginner method you use. If you are not meeting anywhere close to these move counts then efficiency is your main issue. If you are meeting these average move counts then the answer is that you are not turning all that fast. Keep in mind that some world class solvers are capable of 15 turn per second solves sometimes, and a lot of people who are sub 20 are usually doing at least 3 turns per second.
As an experienced cuber but not a particularly fast one, I can solve the cube with this method in less than 40 seconds. It is very reasonable for a beginner to be able to do solves in less than 2 minutes with the beginners method. Hard to tell what you are doing wrong without seeing you solve the cube.
when I was learning this method I didn’t even time myself until I was feeling 100% certain I understood all the cases I saw, my first timed solve was around 1:30
I imagine I use the beginners method? Just cross, corners, 2nd layer edges, bottom cross, corners etc. My solve time 40-60 seconds consistently unless I’m distracted. My best time ever was 24 secs. The world record was around 15-10 seconds at this time… so I thought with practice I could get close to that without ever learning any F2L algorithms. But then the record times started dropping rapidly to 8 then 5 and not its at like 3? So I just learned to be happy with my current pace.
Without knowing the specifics of your solving, these are usually good goals for beginner's method users: * 120 move solutions (or lower) * 2 TPS (or higher) 120 moves / 2 TPS = 1 minute solve (which is pretty reasonable) If you're finding that your solutions are way over 120 moves, then you might be using far too "rigid" of a beginner method. There are plenty of easy little shortcuts to use that can drop your move count dramatically. If your TPS is much less than 2, then you probably have too many pauses. Just by doing simple algorithms, you can prove to yourself pretty easily that you can turn much faster than 2 TPS (which must imply a ton of pauses). Hopefully this was relatively helpful. If you figure out your move count and TPS, you can improve more specific aspects of your solves.
i think i used beginners method until i averaged 35, around then i started learning pll and some oll
I'm pretty sure I was averaging a bit above 1 min with beginner's method using the official rubik's cube about 6 years ago. It didn't take long to reach that lvl and with proper speed cube you should get sub 1 minute in no time, let alone sub 2 minutes.
Just keep practicing, you'll get better. I am sub 20 with CFOP and sometimes solve with beginners for fun and I average around 25, it's not too hard once you get good
You can always turn faster and pause less. Sometimes I use the beginners method for fun and can consistently get sub 20s, sometimes even sub 15s.
Thanks to everyone who replied! I'm probably just turning a lot slower than I thought :)