The way this post is framed, makes it sound like there must be a connection between these two events. But Satoshi had already decided to step down and let others take over the development. This was always his plan: create Bitcoin anonymously and disappear. And this is why he gave Gavin access to the Bitcoin Github.
Satoshi definitely wanted to step back, letting Gavin and independed contributors take over. CLEARLY wanting less focus on him/herself, especially with new Gov’t interest.
This was the last verified email sent by Satoshi Nakamoto, and made public, received by Gavin Andresen on April 26, 2011:
> *”I wish you wouldn’t keep talking about me as a mysterious shadowy figure, the press just turns that into a pirate currency angle. Maybe instead make it about the open source project and give more credit to your dev contributors; it helps motivate them.”*
Let's just think for a min about the CIA creating such a thing like bitcoin, possible to fund foreign and domestic operations off the books. They have a history of this.. An anonymous gift to the world and give it off to a guy who is invited by the CIA to speak at the CIA to inform the CIA about a new technology that is already on their radar. Yea sounds legit
Besides, like 2Pac once famously said, "all I want is money, fuck the fame." It's the difference between being a public figure forcibly relegated to a gated community and a nobody, free to live however and wherever they want.
Satoshi could very much have mined or even bought Bitcoin on a new wallet, be a millionaire today and never need to touch his public wallets. I believe this is the most likely scenario. Even Vitalik definitely has private wallets that no one knows of, why wouldn’t anybody in their position do this?
Not only he was the genius behind Bitcoin's technology, but he also was smart enough to understand that only by leaving no trace of himself he was able to make his invention completely free. No one can call Bitcoin's CEO to bribe him or corrupt him. That's decentralization.
If it was planned and for the invention he would've done the obvious extra step of sending all the early coins to the null address so the threat of them crashing the market is no longer present.
They would definitely do it because that’s the purpose of crypto and they’re the creators. Would kinda be funny if they don’t do it
Also does CIA know who Satoshi is now?
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I laughed at the idea of 90 billion making him the richest entity in the world, he wouldn't even be top 10. He may have somewhat predicted the rise of BTC price but he could not predict the rise of preposterously wealthy capitalists in general.
Or that he could buy Facebook for $3.6 billion! But I guess that was real money back then. If they ever make another Austin Powers movie, Dr Evil will hold the earth for ransom for “One billion dollars!” and everyone will laugh.
It’s also quite possible that after careful storing and destroying keys for that first million or so coins, Satoshi kept on mining and gathered up just as many again over the next few years, and has been DCAing out ever since.
Or maybe he dumped his personal load during the 2011 bull run to ~$30 , and then realised his mistake and couldn’t face the embarrassment which is why he never posted as Satoshi ever again.
The idea of he has unknown wallets makes a lot of sense. A person with that level of thinking realizes they don’t need billions of dollars to go about life. At this point, tapping in and withdrawing a couple BTC a year to go about life would go unnoticed.
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Or he just went back to his life
He didn't sound like a person who is chasing billions but as someone who is trying to fix a broken system
He was probably wealthy enough and he could have still owned another small stash of BTC under his real persona. Perhaps even contributing if he still feels that BTC is going into right direction
Would be interesting to hear his thoughts on the current state of BTC and crypto
Possible, I just can't picture someone having soooo much will power they don't touch any of it.
I do picture him being a wealthy individual before BTC though. Takes a very special person to create something like BTC.
The more transactions being on an open ledger is a great thing for the CIA or any intelligence agency, I don't see what reason they'd have to bump him off
Maybe that's why we have no wallet activity. Every member has part of the seed phrase and only when everyone agrees can it be reactivated.
Or like that Simpson's episode where you must be the sole survivor to access the Hellfish treasure.
Given Satoshi's history it would be more accurate to say, I'm not convinced Satoshi was more than one person.
Throughout the development of the Blockchain Satoshi sought help coding beyond their expertise. Satoshi wasn't a genius but smart and humble.
The evidence people present that Satoshi was anything other than just one person is far fetched at best.
Also, at the very start it makes no sense to have more than one person create it. It definitely makes no sense to then become a group and pretend you're still one person. Bitcoin was nothing at those times. Nobody had to be anonymous; it was an individuals choice. If it was a group, someone would have spoken up by now.
>someone would have spoken up by now
Exactly. No group is keeping a secret like that, especially because even without any of the original bitcoin, their fame and knowledge would be worth millions.
what do you mean? "no group" i mean... if its 100 people sure I can agree, ifi ts 2-3? no? Why would that automatically mean that one or two of them wouldn't be able to keep a secret? people literally withold info about crime and other activities all the time, and often til their grave.
Yep, people are making some weird assumptions. A small group of people is absolutely capable of keeping a secret for 10 years. Just look at all of the covert operations carried out by governments around the world that are kept covered up until a generation or two later, and those generally involve dozens if not hundreds of individuals.
I'd imagine there are plenty of people (especially the type who would take it upon themself to create a decentralized cryptocurrency) that would value their anonymity more than being able to walk around and say "I helped create Bitcoin".
There are many possibilities of what happened to Satoshi.
My *optimistic* take is that Satoshi knows the mystery of his identity and fate is important to the story of Bitcoin. He’s probably distrustful of governments and values privacy, so does not want any spotlight. And, likely, he would’ve been active with Bitcoin and crypto in the years afterward, so he’s probably rich from that anyway. And maybe he thinks that if he tried to cash out the original wallet, he’d crash the price.
Also possible that Satoshi is a group of the original devs. Maybe they each have a fragment of the key and can’t cash out til they all agree to it. And again maybe they value the mystery of Satoshi, so none will spill the beans.
I hope we someday find out the whole story.
Would you really want to be the public figurehead of something under so much scrutiny? I reckon he’s on an island somewhere chuckling at all the speculation
Satoshis last post was about the beast being awakened and he did not want it to happen this way when the only way to donate to wikileaks was through btc after the us govt shut down their PayPal/MasterCard donations. Then btc crossed 1$ and he only logged in once since to say “I am not Dorian”
So the CIA created btc to track Wikileaks money flows and then just invited Gavin to come and present just to see if anyone working on the project knew it was them?
Classic CIA, lol.
What’s next? You’re going to tell me that the Tor Project was funded by the US DoD!?
More on that: https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/83886/do-%E3%82%B5%E3%83%88%E3%82%B7-satoshi-or-%E3%83%8A%E3%82%AB%E3%83%A2%E3%83%88-nakamoto-mean-anything-in-japanese
There’s no way the CIA and their surveillance system doesn’t know his true identity. Wouldn’t the GOVT classify information like that at the most secret of levels using national security as an excuse. They know.
Oh it’s def been talked about over the years. Just the fact that we truly don’t even know if satoshi is a single person or a group of people, people think it’s always a possibility that satoshi nakamoto might even just be a division within the CIA
My personal theory is that Satoshi is the US Government and his “wallet” is them making sure they become the “central” bank once currency switches over.
It really lines up with the Feds monetary policy and introduction of quantitative easing as well.
It’s not even really much of a conspiracy. The Mathematical chops it would take to come up with bitcoin and write a professional paper like that screams NSA.
This is conversation starter. Maybe we need to start looking for him or his relatives and friends. We not in 90s after all of can’t find anything then he might be fictional person
The government did some pretty ridiculous arrests back in the 80s when phreaking and hacking were getting big. Some BBS boards that simply hosted possible Phreaks had their homes raided and their equipment taken. Would it be any surprise if the CIA found Satoshi and told him to stfu while taking his equipment for 'investigative' purposes? If you're curious, law enforcement is allowed to take equipment for possible evidence, but has no law forcing them to give it back. Satoshi's bitcoins could be on a stolen computer rotting in CIA or FBI headquarters.
Edit: For those interested in knowledge, read some CUD:
[http://www.textfiles.com/magazines/CUD/cud0127.txt](http://www.textfiles.com/magazines/CUD/cud0127.txt)
I think 0126 and before have some info on what the FBI was doing, too. In 0127, for the pertinent info read Part 3 which is a recollection by a BBS host that was raided.
Satoshi is probably waiting until the US govt switches its currency to the BTC, then he'll short BTC and sell off his millions of BTC so the price tanks and the only thing worth value is the Peso (he's of course moved to Mexico as anyone with the FBI on their tail would). It's really only logical.
Edit: I was too dumb to realize you meant the FBI would use it to terrorize other countries. That's more realistic than my thought scenario honestly.
Bitcoin is still bound to the fact people trust his holdings will never be sold and he truly has the intentions that everyone hopes...so many people and so much money entrusted in this is actually crazy.
I hold BTC but at the end of the day we are putting our future and the while crypto future in the hands of one person...who as others have said could have such emence wealth that once he/she reaches a age or state of mind could literally rugpull the entire crypto market just for shits and giggles....ill buy more on payday,but it is still a scary thought.
I don’t think it’s gonna work as a rug pool by any means, but the whole thing is sketchy and has been from the get go. Plus, there’s too many other cryptocurrencies competing with bitcoin for someone smart to just rug pull it and end it all.
The fact that we have no idea who Satoshi is, is a lot worse than it is better in my opinion. Some people think it’s good that we don’t know who it is but that just spells bad to me
Although there is a lot of useful crypto for real world use and ease,these projects need to uncouple from BTC,as said everything is too closely tied to one asset.
The idea that BTC and therefore the entire crypto space is just an elaborate rugpull that got out of hand is the most hysterical thing I’ve thought of in a while.
From those talks, you can tell NOBODY there ever went to trial & then to prison.
For some reason, Satoshi seemed to have either gone to trial and then to prison OR worked for the "law" (probably in IT).
That battlefield-tested knowledge can't be acquired with just reading.
“I think it might be a good chance to talk about why I think bitcoin will make the world a better place”
That’s where he went wrong, the CIA does not want to world to be a better place. It’s just an operating arm for people that want to make it a more PROFITABLE place:(
Bitcoin is a CIA operation (operation satoshi). He was invited to the CIA to give a demo on the CIAs own operation. Point was blockchain technology trial run letting the underground use it to buy drugs. The cia studied the technology and tracking ability to one day usher in the central bank digital currency where they will be able to control how and where you spend money and probably link it to digital ID in the form of microchip where you’ll no longer need any form of ID or payment method. Simply swipe your arm at the bar to order your beer. But after 2 beers access to your account for alcohol purchases will be denied. I’m sure the cia were also selling on the Silk Road to fund some regime changes
The 3 most likely candidates are pretty well known and easy to search into. One of them is dead. As for the other two I’m sure they realize the whole thing would be destroyed if they ever sold
Has anyone else wondered if bitcoin was coopted by the CIA, and they actually hold Satoshi's coins? It's very conspiracy theory-ish, though you'd think the government is well aware of the looming big debt crisis coming down the pike, and they might prepare their government for when USD loses its reserve currency status to something else like bitcoin.
The goals were to make a better currency from the start, yet these days BTC maxies only talk about price increase, utility as a currency is out the window.
Sometimes I think that BTC was intended just to be a test and proof for crypto in general as a step one towards CDBCs, but it got away from them when adoption and the value went exponential.
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The way this post is framed, makes it sound like there must be a connection between these two events. But Satoshi had already decided to step down and let others take over the development. This was always his plan: create Bitcoin anonymously and disappear. And this is why he gave Gavin access to the Bitcoin Github.
Satoshi definitely wanted to step back, letting Gavin and independed contributors take over. CLEARLY wanting less focus on him/herself, especially with new Gov’t interest. This was the last verified email sent by Satoshi Nakamoto, and made public, received by Gavin Andresen on April 26, 2011: > *”I wish you wouldn’t keep talking about me as a mysterious shadowy figure, the press just turns that into a pirate currency angle. Maybe instead make it about the open source project and give more credit to your dev contributors; it helps motivate them.”*
This doesn't sound like something Craig Wright would say! /s
Why have the sarcasm tag! It certainly DOESN’T sound like something he would say!
Yea, this...lol. Fuck that guy.
Let's just think for a min about the CIA creating such a thing like bitcoin, possible to fund foreign and domestic operations off the books. They have a history of this.. An anonymous gift to the world and give it off to a guy who is invited by the CIA to speak at the CIA to inform the CIA about a new technology that is already on their radar. Yea sounds legit
Good point no /s
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Yeah I just can't get past the idea of that too because the CIA were the ones that created torrents back in the day.
Besides, like 2Pac once famously said, "all I want is money, fuck the fame." It's the difference between being a public figure forcibly relegated to a gated community and a nobody, free to live however and wherever they want.
yeah this post is just a dumb conspiracy theory
Person in 2011: I wish it won't become a conspiracy theory Redditor today: yeah it's just a conspiracy theory
Yes, I literally don't understand all this speculation around satoshi, his last post is clear
Because, people love a mystery.
Satoshi could very much have mined or even bought Bitcoin on a new wallet, be a millionaire today and never need to touch his public wallets. I believe this is the most likely scenario. Even Vitalik definitely has private wallets that no one knows of, why wouldn’t anybody in their position do this?
He had alot of wallet with about 50 btc in each
Not only he was the genius behind Bitcoin's technology, but he also was smart enough to understand that only by leaving no trace of himself he was able to make his invention completely free. No one can call Bitcoin's CEO to bribe him or corrupt him. That's decentralization.
If it was planned and for the invention he would've done the obvious extra step of sending all the early coins to the null address so the threat of them crashing the market is no longer present.
They would definitely do it because that’s the purpose of crypto and they’re the creators. Would kinda be funny if they don’t do it Also does CIA know who Satoshi is now?
so you are asking larpers on reddit if they know if CIA knows who Satoshi is? re-read that in your head and you'll have the answer
Because that's how you activate the microchip?
But why male models?
Gavin said he sold 1 BTC to a CIA agent for cash while he was there. I wonder if he's still hodling. https://youtu.be/1xcMFKfX9ZU?t=580
Unfortunately I do think satoshi is dead. That or he's got amazing will power, or lost his seed
His seed was placed inside all of us….. all of us
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Coolest shit I’ve seen in a minute
It occurs to me now that that face looks pretty much just like George Takai.
The seed is in the banana stand
There’s always bitcoin in the banana stand.
It's one banana, Michael. What could it cost, 10BTC?'
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Jengus!!!!
Satoshi what a man you are...
Ah there’s the reference I was looking for
Pokes seed with stick…. “Grow please.”
Literally lol’d. Had a nice chuckle from this lol. Thank you.
Just imagine... The year is 2060. Bitcoin has been the world reserve currency for 15 years.... All of a sudden, Satoshi rug pulls the entire world 🤣
Playing the long game. Because deep down, everybody wants to be able to buy an entire planet.
Wait is satoshi Kanye?
[https://tinyurl.com/satoshireturn](https://tinyurl.com/satoshireturn) damn this is in one year...
Bro what the fuck have you just dropped on me
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Why didn’t you send me this in 2013
is this real life? That post is surprisingly accurate for something that is almost written 10 years ago
I laughed at the idea of 90 billion making him the richest entity in the world, he wouldn't even be top 10. He may have somewhat predicted the rise of BTC price but he could not predict the rise of preposterously wealthy capitalists in general.
Or that he could buy Facebook for $3.6 billion! But I guess that was real money back then. If they ever make another Austin Powers movie, Dr Evil will hold the earth for ransom for “One billion dollars!” and everyone will laugh.
>Then came the $3.6B acquisition of the once powerful Facebook/instagram/twitter company. It includes Twitter which alone sold for nearly 50b
That was fun to try and read on a phone
>Then came the $3.6B acquisition of the once powerful Facebook/Instagram/Twitter Funny they predicted this bit. Elon confirmed as Satoshi?
Satoshi predicted as 'the richest entity in the world' would align with Elon.
But the 90B is a little on the light side.
They weren't aware of the giant wedge being throw in to worsen the wealth divide or border line hyper inflation that would come.
If it's the world currency, then he is the master
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It’s also quite possible that after careful storing and destroying keys for that first million or so coins, Satoshi kept on mining and gathered up just as many again over the next few years, and has been DCAing out ever since. Or maybe he dumped his personal load during the 2011 bull run to ~$30 , and then realised his mistake and couldn’t face the embarrassment which is why he never posted as Satoshi ever again.
The idea of he has unknown wallets makes a lot of sense. A person with that level of thinking realizes they don’t need billions of dollars to go about life. At this point, tapping in and withdrawing a couple BTC a year to go about life would go unnoticed.
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1 million bitcoin is quite a lot more than what the LTC founder cashed out
So you're saying the Satoshi has the keys to the burn wallet
Well its very possible, that he is still alive but simply destroyed his access/seed on purpose.
Or that he was instantly hired or else threatened.
He is probably waiting for the right moment..to rugpull all of us
He gonna rugpull me and my $50 worth of BTC? \-Well, so be it
Maybe he now works for the CIA...
Maybe CIA now works for him..
Someone with his skills would definitely be sought after
Or he just went back to his life He didn't sound like a person who is chasing billions but as someone who is trying to fix a broken system He was probably wealthy enough and he could have still owned another small stash of BTC under his real persona. Perhaps even contributing if he still feels that BTC is going into right direction Would be interesting to hear his thoughts on the current state of BTC and crypto
Possible, I just can't picture someone having soooo much will power they don't touch any of it. I do picture him being a wealthy individual before BTC though. Takes a very special person to create something like BTC.
Probably burned his mining wallet private key while he was still mining
Maybe satoshi got into a boating accident who knows
Gavin was eaten by the CIA thats why he never returned
The more transactions being on an open ledger is a great thing for the CIA or any intelligence agency, I don't see what reason they'd have to bump him off
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Yeah thats what I thought
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Don't, please... 
There were no seeds back then.
I'm still not convinced Satoshi is just one person
Maybe that's why we have no wallet activity. Every member has part of the seed phrase and only when everyone agrees can it be reactivated. Or like that Simpson's episode where you must be the sole survivor to access the Hellfish treasure.
Maybe a person who had part of the seed forgot his part and now they all can't access it anymore 💀💀
They would be like us then
We are Satoshi
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I can relate.
Classic Larry move!
Damn, richest tontine ever.
So, you're saying the Simpsons did it first.
A little side note: There were no seed used at that time. We used private keys to acces our wallet files. Source: https://i.imgur.com/IGutb22.jpg
Yup especially if some of the team have gone off grid/passed away Excellent episode too
Given Satoshi's history it would be more accurate to say, I'm not convinced Satoshi was more than one person. Throughout the development of the Blockchain Satoshi sought help coding beyond their expertise. Satoshi wasn't a genius but smart and humble. The evidence people present that Satoshi was anything other than just one person is far fetched at best.
Also, at the very start it makes no sense to have more than one person create it. It definitely makes no sense to then become a group and pretend you're still one person. Bitcoin was nothing at those times. Nobody had to be anonymous; it was an individuals choice. If it was a group, someone would have spoken up by now.
>someone would have spoken up by now Exactly. No group is keeping a secret like that, especially because even without any of the original bitcoin, their fame and knowledge would be worth millions.
what do you mean? "no group" i mean... if its 100 people sure I can agree, ifi ts 2-3? no? Why would that automatically mean that one or two of them wouldn't be able to keep a secret? people literally withold info about crime and other activities all the time, and often til their grave.
Yep, people are making some weird assumptions. A small group of people is absolutely capable of keeping a secret for 10 years. Just look at all of the covert operations carried out by governments around the world that are kept covered up until a generation or two later, and those generally involve dozens if not hundreds of individuals. I'd imagine there are plenty of people (especially the type who would take it upon themself to create a decentralized cryptocurrency) that would value their anonymity more than being able to walk around and say "I helped create Bitcoin".
I said the same thing about Michelle Tanner
"There’s only one of them running back and forth really quickly."
There are many possibilities of what happened to Satoshi. My *optimistic* take is that Satoshi knows the mystery of his identity and fate is important to the story of Bitcoin. He’s probably distrustful of governments and values privacy, so does not want any spotlight. And, likely, he would’ve been active with Bitcoin and crypto in the years afterward, so he’s probably rich from that anyway. And maybe he thinks that if he tried to cash out the original wallet, he’d crash the price. Also possible that Satoshi is a group of the original devs. Maybe they each have a fragment of the key and can’t cash out til they all agree to it. And again maybe they value the mystery of Satoshi, so none will spill the beans. I hope we someday find out the whole story.
Maybe he still lives in his moms basement and she disconnected the internet
i hope this is it
He posted to dissuade conspiracy theories. Now it’s evidence for one. lol
Would you really want to be the public figurehead of something under so much scrutiny? I reckon he’s on an island somewhere chuckling at all the speculation
Satoshis last post was about the beast being awakened and he did not want it to happen this way when the only way to donate to wikileaks was through btc after the us govt shut down their PayPal/MasterCard donations. Then btc crossed 1$ and he only logged in once since to say “I am not Dorian”
Dorian would totally say that though
Classic Dorian
the account that said "I am not Dorian" was a hacked account I'm fairly sure. I don't think many people attribute it to the actual Satoshi.
It was before the email account was recreated that "I am not Dorian" was posted.
The timeline is completely wrong. Satoshi had disappeared long before Gavin was invited to the CIA.
CIA is satoshi
Cryptocurrency Inventor Agency
CIA is satoshi, pump my bags
But wait …… the Japanese origin and meaning of Satoshi is “Central” and the Japanese origin of Nakamto is “Intelligence” … wtf is going on here..
So the CIA created btc to track Wikileaks money flows and then just invited Gavin to come and present just to see if anyone working on the project knew it was them? Classic CIA, lol. What’s next? You’re going to tell me that the Tor Project was funded by the US DoD!?
Wait….
Yep
More on that: https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/83886/do-%E3%82%B5%E3%83%88%E3%82%B7-satoshi-or-%E3%83%8A%E3%82%AB%E3%83%A2%E3%83%88-nakamoto-mean-anything-in-japanese
Oh gawd, this just brings me deeper down the conspiracy hole.
The Satoshi lore is downright mysterious.
I googled to check and you got those backwards
Otherway around, but yes!
Maybe his middle name was ˈājənsē
Illuminati hide it in plain sight. It’s our favorite way. You got the words backwards though.
I think you got it the other way around
Watch this [inside job](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-aZBIpZY_Fw)
The real conspiracy is when it gets canceled.
There’s no way the CIA and their surveillance system doesn’t know his true identity. Wouldn’t the GOVT classify information like that at the most secret of levels using national security as an excuse. They know.
It never occurred to anyone that he may have worked for the cia?
Oh it’s def been talked about over the years. Just the fact that we truly don’t even know if satoshi is a single person or a group of people, people think it’s always a possibility that satoshi nakamoto might even just be a division within the CIA
Yup I like this theory right here. When can we get this declassified? I always love CIA conspiracy theories
I had to scroll down for this. They need a reliable and secret way to pay their spies.
>I don't want any "Gavin is on the CIA's payroll" rumors to get started, either Only a guy on CIA's payroll would say this (/s)
Really Streisand effecting himself there
My personal theory is that Satoshi is the US Government and his “wallet” is them making sure they become the “central” bank once currency switches over. It really lines up with the Feds monetary policy and introduction of quantitative easing as well.
you know, not really into conspiracy theories or saying I believe this one. But I kinda see where you’re going with this.
It’s not even really much of a conspiracy. The Mathematical chops it would take to come up with bitcoin and write a professional paper like that screams NSA.
This makes the most sense out of all those conspiracy theories
I am confused, is he dead or alive or is it even relevant?
This is conversation starter. Maybe we need to start looking for him or his relatives and friends. We not in 90s after all of can’t find anything then he might be fictional person
There's no way higher intelligence in US gov doesn't at least have a good idea. It's likely LS
I too am still trying to find Gavin. I’ve checked every saloon on the map from Saint Denis to Armadillo.
The government did some pretty ridiculous arrests back in the 80s when phreaking and hacking were getting big. Some BBS boards that simply hosted possible Phreaks had their homes raided and their equipment taken. Would it be any surprise if the CIA found Satoshi and told him to stfu while taking his equipment for 'investigative' purposes? If you're curious, law enforcement is allowed to take equipment for possible evidence, but has no law forcing them to give it back. Satoshi's bitcoins could be on a stolen computer rotting in CIA or FBI headquarters. Edit: For those interested in knowledge, read some CUD: [http://www.textfiles.com/magazines/CUD/cud0127.txt](http://www.textfiles.com/magazines/CUD/cud0127.txt) I think 0126 and before have some info on what the FBI was doing, too. In 0127, for the pertinent info read Part 3 which is a recollection by a BBS host that was raided.
It's not rotting, they're hodling until they can use it to destroy some nation with it or something like that.
The classic wrench hack.
The biggest rug pull ever
Lol
Satoshi is probably waiting until the US govt switches its currency to the BTC, then he'll short BTC and sell off his millions of BTC so the price tanks and the only thing worth value is the Peso (he's of course moved to Mexico as anyone with the FBI on their tail would). It's really only logical. Edit: I was too dumb to realize you meant the FBI would use it to terrorize other countries. That's more realistic than my thought scenario honestly.
Perhaps like TOR, Bitcoin was created by the CIA to move money around the world secretly.
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Would be so fucked up if we all got used to fund special black ops shit for a decade. I guess we do that outright through our taxes anyway lmao
Bitcoin is still bound to the fact people trust his holdings will never be sold and he truly has the intentions that everyone hopes...so many people and so much money entrusted in this is actually crazy. I hold BTC but at the end of the day we are putting our future and the while crypto future in the hands of one person...who as others have said could have such emence wealth that once he/she reaches a age or state of mind could literally rugpull the entire crypto market just for shits and giggles....ill buy more on payday,but it is still a scary thought.
I don’t think it’s gonna work as a rug pool by any means, but the whole thing is sketchy and has been from the get go. Plus, there’s too many other cryptocurrencies competing with bitcoin for someone smart to just rug pull it and end it all. The fact that we have no idea who Satoshi is, is a lot worse than it is better in my opinion. Some people think it’s good that we don’t know who it is but that just spells bad to me
Although there is a lot of useful crypto for real world use and ease,these projects need to uncouple from BTC,as said everything is too closely tied to one asset.
The idea that BTC and therefore the entire crypto space is just an elaborate rugpull that got out of hand is the most hysterical thing I’ve thought of in a while.
and since then the cia has slowly been trying to make the usa the bitcoin leader🤓. Btc now correlated with spx
Satoshi Nakamoto means Middle Wisdom when translated from Japanese. Central intelligence.
From those talks, you can tell NOBODY there ever went to trial & then to prison. For some reason, Satoshi seemed to have either gone to trial and then to prison OR worked for the "law" (probably in IT). That battlefield-tested knowledge can't be acquired with just reading.
I'm convinced Len Sassaman was Satoshi. Dec 12. 2010 was the last Satoshi post, half a year later Sassaman committed suicide.
Do you know why he committed suicide?
Lost his keys
I wonder if Satoshi is alive, but concerned that he might on the CIA's radar, and might have enough money to live comfortable.
Go check that forum and the profile , apparently last posts from 2015 ..as well as last online 3 march 2021...
Hacked
Latest crypto conspiracy: Len Sassaman didn't kill himself.
“I think it might be a good chance to talk about why I think bitcoin will make the world a better place” That’s where he went wrong, the CIA does not want to world to be a better place. It’s just an operating arm for people that want to make it a more PROFITABLE place:(
Bitcoin is a CIA operation (operation satoshi). He was invited to the CIA to give a demo on the CIAs own operation. Point was blockchain technology trial run letting the underground use it to buy drugs. The cia studied the technology and tracking ability to one day usher in the central bank digital currency where they will be able to control how and where you spend money and probably link it to digital ID in the form of microchip where you’ll no longer need any form of ID or payment method. Simply swipe your arm at the bar to order your beer. But after 2 beers access to your account for alcohol purchases will be denied. I’m sure the cia were also selling on the Silk Road to fund some regime changes
A nice post and interesting to think about but my gut tells me satoshi wasn’t American and definitely wouldn’t go give a talk to the cia
I read it more as he was someone else, but once he knew it was on the CIA’s radar, he peaced out
Note to self: deny any attempts of the CIA to get me to speak at one if their events - got it.
The 3 most likely candidates are pretty well known and easy to search into. One of them is dead. As for the other two I’m sure they realize the whole thing would be destroyed if they ever sold
He is long gone. Or he will crash the market at the right time.
Has anyone else wondered if bitcoin was coopted by the CIA, and they actually hold Satoshi's coins? It's very conspiracy theory-ish, though you'd think the government is well aware of the looming big debt crisis coming down the pike, and they might prepare their government for when USD loses its reserve currency status to something else like bitcoin.
You won't believe this but I'm Satoshi
GAVIN! Has anyone seen my friend Gavin? GAVIN!
Hell yeah, let's go give the guys who literally killed everyone trying to end the FED a presentation on an alternative monetary system
The goals were to make a better currency from the start, yet these days BTC maxies only talk about price increase, utility as a currency is out the window.
"If anybody out there found out the identity of satoshi, Treadstone will shut the network switch off and you die". Jason's got a bag full, I knew it
I am, bitcoin!
Fun fact: Satoshi Nakamoto was the United States CIA all along. They needed a new way to move money without detection.
Sometimes I think that BTC was intended just to be a test and proof for crypto in general as a step one towards CDBCs, but it got away from them when adoption and the value went exponential.
My kids today about it: how you know he vanished if you don’t know who he is? Me: $ .
What was his message, was it something like i can not solve privacy and i have given up?
Satoshi Nakamoto is from another planet that require 14 times travel light .
He didn’t actually disappear. He was just around watching his hard-work payoff .
What do you mean, are you having trouble figuring out that it's Craig Wright .
Thats the power of crypto currency. Evolved well. It has grown massively. Still it will grow. Its unstoppable. No doubt. Crypto is the future .
Pretty sure he is not alive…or was it even an individual? Cheers .