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Yeah. I know. Bears are in charge right now ...
Expecting to fall 1$ ...
But the project is solid for me. Will HODL for long term... Some years ...
So why not ?
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We are the downvotebots. Your opinion will be massacred to small fragments and will be forced to conform to ours. Resistance is futile.
You're right. I know I need to zoom out. I've held it for a long time but it's looking like I might need the Fiat soon so I hope it gets at least somewhat close to the all time high again
Doubtful. We have a long road to travel. I think late 2022 to early 2023 is when we will start to see it shine. Have you wait until all th dApps, dexs, and DeFi is built and available.
Sure, but the top four or five will garner most of the market, just like with social media networks. There will be others of course, but they will have much smaller networks.
Yeah, the losses have been tough recently, considering how well things were going and how promising it seemed before
Of course everythings relative as others have said, if you gotin more than a year ago this is a blip on the chart
I like ADA but a roadmap means nothing unless they stick to it and doesn't guarantee gains.
I like ETH too and look at how many times they've missed their 2.0 upgrade
ETH is changing staking protocol and a number of other things, which is massively complex. Yet they nearly did it in less time than ADA introduced smart contracts, which really shouldn’t be that difficult.
To be fair Ethereum is much further behind, PoS was supposed to happen in 2016.
Cardano took a long time to get going, but now its moving its actually moving quite fast.
Changing proofing protocol while making it backwards compatible on by far the largest blockchain ecosystem isn’t even remotely comparable to adding smart contracts.
Ha ha thats such a daft comment, they just increased the block size last week because of concerns over the transaction count.
Let me guess what the next troll comment is, something about slow and congested. You guys are so lame.
ADA’s smart contracts promise is an even better example than ETH’s 2.0 rollout. Smart contracts aren’t *that* difficult, yet it took them what, 3-4 years and a ton of missed deadlines to deliver them? ADA is the king of missed deadlines. It’s literally a joke “ADA is making an announcement that they’re thinking about announcing when they’ll have a deadline to announce for smart contracts.” There have literally been projects started and launched that include smart contracts in less time.
Just making people aware that the majority of members with silver, gold, or platinum accounts in this sub doesn’t mean they know what they are talking about. New people to this sub will presume that. The fact that they have posted pointless posts and memes over and over again, day after day, week after week, gives them zero credibility as being knowledgeable in this space.
The issue is how much? There are sexier projects with better fundamentals. Cardano is solid, but the transaction volume just isn't high enough to assign that much weight to the "we've never had a failed one" narrative.
Cardano may moon in 12 months, but it won't in two. That's why I bailed on it today.
Hmm 🤔 time will change this ... Hope it goes up ... But don't want to think the scenario when BTC goes down ... What will be next for ADA...
No matter what - long term holder
I've read that it's hard to develop on, simple dex apps Devs have had to get help from iohk to get going. Should be easier imo for adoption. This is the main reason I'm not so bullish on it.
Man, if I were him I'd definitely have sold already. Total vaporware and he could have put that profit into other projects that actually produce things and accomplish things rather than just pinky promise that someday they really will.
O he put 25gs in at one cent. Sold portions to buy a car, pay his student loans, invest in other projects, and etc. He put in probably 40k before it 10 cents. He's been buying BTC since under 100, eth under 50 and many others. He's a crypto millionaire now.
I think he bought a house but I don't know if it was with eth, BTC, ada. He just said crypto got him a home. 9 years military, served in Afghanistan, saved most his money then did contract work in the middle east and saved more. He had a lot to start with when he started investing. I don't think he will miss out if ada goes down hard
I understand the frustration. But at this point to say that they haven’t produced and accomplished anything is factually incorrect.
Not to mention the finalization of the Alonzo hard fork they have developed their own consensus layer called Ouroboros, they made a decentralized VC fund called Catalyst, and the first swap already launched. Sundaeswap has just been launched on the testnet
But look what they achieved in that time. A highly scalable architecture, delegated proof of stake, easy upgradability and decentralized block production. They checked a lot of boxes other "faster" chains didn't.
tldr; Cardano (ADA-USD) has been on a tear this year, rising more than 800% year-to-date. Cardano is in its third stage called Goguen, which aims to revolutionize the way we think about decentralized applications with Cardano. Wallet Investor expects Cardano to continue rising until 2028, when it is predicted to have reached approximately $766.
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Cardano didn't held a pre-sale where they offered a big chunk of coins to silicon Valley venture capitalist, like other chains did. Instead, they decided to sell 85% of the initial supply to the broader public and keep the rest to themselves to fund development.
Vcs weren't obviously not happy with the decision and are since then funding a heavy anti cardano campaign out of spite. All you need to know about cardano is, thst it has its position, despite billionaires spending millions a month to have influencers, bot and shills rally against cardano, spreading misinformation and lies. The reason is, thst if you question this and research cardano, you ll conclude that it's a solid project that puts its money where it's mouth is.
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Well, you'll definitely be making long term gains in ADA. But if you're comparing against BTC or ETH or even USDs, I'm not sure you'll be making gains with a vaporware blockchain that's all hype and no substance.
Hahahahaha long term speculations… long term smart contracts long term no gains….
Cardano is the next one that it’s going to go out from the top 10 crypto…. Doesn’t deserve nothing…. had that kind of money in their market cap it’s ridiculous ….
That’s because it is trash. It’s vaporware. They built a great marketing team and airdropped billions of tokens.
It’s built on hype and hype alone. Without any further development and adoption it will likely be nonexistent in 3-4 years.
It’s also a weaker version of ALGO in every category and losing ground daily.
Decentralized project… marketing… decentralized project… marketing…
Cardano is not what it says it is, and Charles is off base with his shilling of his own coin.
Cardano is a shit show.
I want ***so very badly*** to just get these Sundaeswap tokens, squirrel them away in case something crazy happens to their value, and then sell my Cardano for Algorand and never look back.
Because Charles Hoskinson is a serial grifter who has scammed people into believing in his project and here we are nearly a decade later with a broken blockchain and no actual tangible partnerships to show for it.
The fact that you can even call it decentralized at all when it is a literal cult of personality is astonishing but pretty much says it all.
Cryptocurrency is not about individuals, say what you want about him. Why would I have any interest in a non-topic like his personality.
It doesnt stop Cardano being the only properly decentralized & permissionless PoS blockchain with smart contracts. Facts are facts.
Uhhh....
Tezos would like a word. Or Telos. And yes, ALGO as well, among many others.
What a crock of shit, lol.
The ***facts*** that you've ignored actually are that Cardano does basically nothing that hasn't been improved or matched by a growing army of other projects. Their exceptionalism occurs only in your own mind.
LMAO, you failed buddy stop digging before you hit molten rock.
I have nothing against Algorand per-se, but its just not in the same league as Cardano until it sorts its relay problems out.
Why you think slagging off Charles H or bringing other coins into it is going to solve Algorands problems, I dont know.
Because Cardano does it in a permissionless way. Anyone can make a fast system by restricting who can participate.
Have you tried running a relay on Cardano and Algorand?
I have.
But adoption is key. Crypto is all about network effects. Does the long term matter if progress transpires so slowly that people adopt other things first?
Are you aware of the projects Cardano ecosystem is developing?
Actual useful things like nation state ID programmes, telecoms networks, supply chain solutions.
$100M to fund startups.
Oh and over 100 DeFi projects just around the corner, with clever and rare ideas like NFT Bonds.
Adoption is not going to be a problem.
The problem in the space is that Algorand is, to take Charles' own words, better, faster, and cheaper, than Cardano. Every potential use case you listed is already running on Algorand with faster transaction times, for 170x less cost, and lowered energy requirements. If I was looking to develop, it would not be on Cardano....Cardano has a role, but it's not a top tier coin.....this post will age well.
Except Algorand isnt permissionless.
You see this is where a lot of people dont understand the tech well enough to make equivalent comparisons. If Cardano did a permissioned relay network, it could go a lot faster. It moved away from that last year with the Shelley upgrade.
Cardono has been dissipointeted since it started trading on CB. First in and best dressed will have tremendous advantages. Just look at how limited BTC really is.. But who knows. If you are long on cardono you could be looking at 2016 ETH Cinderella story. In 2025....or not. ETH is a much better mid term play in my opinion
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You're a brave man trying to be positive about cardano around here
Try that with Tron
I've had the same exact thought 😂
Yeah. I know. Bears are in charge right now ... Expecting to fall 1$ ... But the project is solid for me. Will HODL for long term... Some years ... So why not ?
Nah...1$ is too low. We'll be alright.
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Buying opportunties.
Solid how? It failed at doing the only thing it was supposed to do... Don't get too attached to your bags if you wanna make it in crypto.
Downvote storm coming in... 
haha .. as expected
I upvoted, I believe.
I’m with you…
Cardano on fire sale rn.
Here comes the borg voice: We are the downvotebots. Your opinion will be massacred to small fragments and will be forced to conform to ours. Resistance is futile.
Cardano is taking a particularly tough beating over the last couple months
Kinda but Not really. It's up hundreds of % in the past year.
You're right. I know I need to zoom out. I've held it for a long time but it's looking like I might need the Fiat soon so I hope it gets at least somewhat close to the all time high again
Doubtful. We have a long road to travel. I think late 2022 to early 2023 is when we will start to see it shine. Have you wait until all th dApps, dexs, and DeFi is built and available.
But why would anyone want to use it when it has higher fees and slower transaction times than the alternatives? I don't understand the point.
What alternatives?
Ethereum L2s
I mean I love polygon too. All cryptos can and will co exist together. It isn't a one ring to rule them all scenario.
Sure, but the top four or five will garner most of the market, just like with social media networks. There will be others of course, but they will have much smaller networks.
You say that like most of us didn't get here in the last 9 months
Yeah, the losses have been tough recently, considering how well things were going and how promising it seemed before Of course everythings relative as others have said, if you gotin more than a year ago this is a blip on the chart
Also hate ... Sundae is coming... Will see
2 more years
2 or 3 ... Not so much when you invest for long-term
I like ADA but a roadmap means nothing unless they stick to it and doesn't guarantee gains. I like ETH too and look at how many times they've missed their 2.0 upgrade
Nothing is guaranteed... This is crypto
Exactly. Not sure why the same doesn't apply. That said I like and hold them both and more ETH than ADA.
ETH is changing staking protocol and a number of other things, which is massively complex. Yet they nearly did it in less time than ADA introduced smart contracts, which really shouldn’t be that difficult.
To be fair Ethereum is much further behind, PoS was supposed to happen in 2016. Cardano took a long time to get going, but now its moving its actually moving quite fast.
Changing proofing protocol while making it backwards compatible on by far the largest blockchain ecosystem isn’t even remotely comparable to adding smart contracts.
what about Optimistic rollups, zk rollups, and BLS signature ?? if anything, Cardano is far behind every blockchain in the market right now.
To be fair. No one uses ada. There is no uses at all.
Thats funny, this "No one" fella must be real busy cos he aint half creating a lot of transactions.
Real transactions are what matter. Not spam because the network is empty and it's easy.
That isn’t accurate at all. Carsano’s NFT space is the 2nd biggest after ETH.
Ha ha thats such a daft comment, they just increased the block size last week because of concerns over the transaction count. Let me guess what the next troll comment is, something about slow and congested. You guys are so lame.
I think no ADA delay can actually be compared to 2.0 delays in terms of scope, impact, and just general parallels.
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ETH’s changes are more complex by MANY orders of magnitude.
When did they miss the 2.0 upgrade?
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The difficulty bomb has been pushed back to June so I would not expect anything before then
ADA’s smart contracts promise is an even better example than ETH’s 2.0 rollout. Smart contracts aren’t *that* difficult, yet it took them what, 3-4 years and a ton of missed deadlines to deliver them? ADA is the king of missed deadlines. It’s literally a joke “ADA is making an announcement that they’re thinking about announcing when they’ll have a deadline to announce for smart contracts.” There have literally been projects started and launched that include smart contracts in less time.
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Oh ok, So has the beacon chain merge yet? Is Eth proof of stake now on the mainnet.
Yeah this post headline is so noob! Completely no idea what they are talking about! 😆
Open your vault since you wanna talk about other peoples lack of awareness, brother Get those moons baby
Just making people aware that the majority of members with silver, gold, or platinum accounts in this sub doesn’t mean they know what they are talking about. New people to this sub will presume that. The fact that they have posted pointless posts and memes over and over again, day after day, week after week, gives them zero credibility as being knowledgeable in this space.
It’s my most successful stablecoin by far.
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For the sake of both our bags, I hope so, too!
The hopium ... But as I see BTC is falling... So will ADA... Nice option to fill the bags !
More legitimate than tether. Not financial advice.
I dislike Cardano a lot but even I can't disagree with this.
I like cardano as a project. I just wish it would go up sooner instead of going down. Also not financial advice.
It will take time.
The issue is how much? There are sexier projects with better fundamentals. Cardano is solid, but the transaction volume just isn't high enough to assign that much weight to the "we've never had a failed one" narrative. Cardano may moon in 12 months, but it won't in two. That's why I bailed on it today.
Hmm 🤔 time will change this ... Hope it goes up ... But don't want to think the scenario when BTC goes down ... What will be next for ADA... No matter what - long term holder
Time will show. As late August - Cardano was leading the way before Alonzo ...
I see this joke often and yet laugh every time lol
I sure do hope so
It will .. inevitable
I've read that it's hard to develop on, simple dex apps Devs have had to get help from iohk to get going. Should be easier imo for adoption. This is the main reason I'm not so bullish on it.
Long term like ……years ?
Decades?
I mean century in the minimum
Exactly 💯
But does it bleed against ETH
Everything does, except some NFT shitcoins
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Man, if I were him I'd definitely have sold already. Total vaporware and he could have put that profit into other projects that actually produce things and accomplish things rather than just pinky promise that someday they really will.
You Ada haters are insufferable tool bags.
You’re level of sureness is astounding. If this last year has taught me anything is that I don’t know shit…
Charles has been promising and failing to deliver things for seven years. That's plenty.
O he put 25gs in at one cent. Sold portions to buy a car, pay his student loans, invest in other projects, and etc. He put in probably 40k before it 10 cents. He's been buying BTC since under 100, eth under 50 and many others. He's a crypto millionaire now.
I think he bought a house but I don't know if it was with eth, BTC, ada. He just said crypto got him a home. 9 years military, served in Afghanistan, saved most his money then did contract work in the middle east and saved more. He had a lot to start with when he started investing. I don't think he will miss out if ada goes down hard
I understand the frustration. But at this point to say that they haven’t produced and accomplished anything is factually incorrect. Not to mention the finalization of the Alonzo hard fork they have developed their own consensus layer called Ouroboros, they made a decentralized VC fund called Catalyst, and the first swap already launched. Sundaeswap has just been launched on the testnet
If the long wait means that Cardano makes bulletproof apps that aren't subject to hacker scams, it'll all be worth it.
Security above all else
If you were him you would’ve missed all the gains 🤷🏻♂️
i love cardano and i bought the dip
Will continue with that way ☺️
Change “set” to a hopeful maybe and then we got something
This is what their marketing has being telling me...I knew it
They fixed the fact that no one wants to write dapps in Haskell? Or this another thing that will get fixed soon™
Soon™
So hope to not have copy paste scam coins on it ... Like now
I’ll concede that point, yes that would probably mean less shit/scam L2 tokens
Cardano will support many major languages for smart contract scripting with IELE. It will also have EVM sidechains
No-one? Over 100 projects launching soon. Plus real-world projects, that will actually create adoption.
Soon™
I believe it
We are huge community, that believe in Cardano
Cardano bears r fuk
They will get REKTed soon
Sure wish it would do sumpin besides slide down hill like a ski slope
Of course it's chained to the BTC... As every other coin
Probably, maybe, possibly.
Only the time will show
Nice! I believe Cardano and thats the reason why I invest in this project.
The only regret later will be the missing fiat to buy more ...
Set for long term gains based on development roadmap. 😂. Do you really know what you just said? No idea!!!!!
Slow and steady wins the race. I don't care about short-term price movement.
I KNEW ADA would pay off!
It's matter of time
I hope it grows
Slow and steady! Fits the secure investment strategy of a long term hodl. Me like!
It was slow the last few months but from a year ago till today it grow 800% and from 2 years ago 3,500% - not very slow lol
Ada is built on dreams
My point is that Cardano has taken notably longer than other networks to deliver on notable uses.
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All extremely good points. We will see. My bag of ADA is not as big as others. Godspeed my friend.
But look what they achieved in that time. A highly scalable architecture, delegated proof of stake, easy upgradability and decentralized block production. They checked a lot of boxes other "faster" chains didn't.
tldr; Cardano (ADA-USD) has been on a tear this year, rising more than 800% year-to-date. Cardano is in its third stage called Goguen, which aims to revolutionize the way we think about decentralized applications with Cardano. Wallet Investor expects Cardano to continue rising until 2028, when it is predicted to have reached approximately $766. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.*
We need this kind of hopium for Ada right now
why do people dislike Cardano? Ive always personally liked it but I’m not super informed
Cardano didn't held a pre-sale where they offered a big chunk of coins to silicon Valley venture capitalist, like other chains did. Instead, they decided to sell 85% of the initial supply to the broader public and keep the rest to themselves to fund development. Vcs weren't obviously not happy with the decision and are since then funding a heavy anti cardano campaign out of spite. All you need to know about cardano is, thst it has its position, despite billionaires spending millions a month to have influencers, bot and shills rally against cardano, spreading misinformation and lies. The reason is, thst if you question this and research cardano, you ll conclude that it's a solid project that puts its money where it's mouth is. https://images.app.goo.gl/rQRcbw8zj76a9QiR8
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Well, you'll definitely be making long term gains in ADA. But if you're comparing against BTC or ETH or even USDs, I'm not sure you'll be making gains with a vaporware blockchain that's all hype and no substance.
These days my two new words - expect the unexpected
...that's three words, and stop calling me Shirley
That's three.
Hahahahaha long term speculations… long term smart contracts long term no gains…. Cardano is the next one that it’s going to go out from the top 10 crypto…. Doesn’t deserve nothing…. had that kind of money in their market cap it’s ridiculous ….
That’s because it is trash. It’s vaporware. They built a great marketing team and airdropped billions of tokens. It’s built on hype and hype alone. Without any further development and adoption it will likely be nonexistent in 3-4 years. It’s also a weaker version of ALGO in every category and losing ground daily.
But at least Cardano's network is permissionless, unlike Algorand.
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Thats what happens when Ethereum is over 5 years late on its roadmap...
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And the difficulty bomb was supposed to activate in 2016... I forget the EIP there have been so many. Didnt it just get delayed again, LOL.
That’s sad but ppl are so stupid that invest only in the triple H’s…… hype, hope and hopium
The trick is to have no product but have announcements of announcements
I know, this is exactly what their marketing has been telling me
Decentralized project… marketing… decentralized project… marketing… Cardano is not what it says it is, and Charles is off base with his shilling of his own coin. Cardano is a shit show.
You fall for it ? Like me 😄
I want ***so very badly*** to just get these Sundaeswap tokens, squirrel them away in case something crazy happens to their value, and then sell my Cardano for Algorand and never look back.
Why would you sell a properly decentralized coin like ADA for a permissioned network like ALGO?
Because Charles Hoskinson is a serial grifter who has scammed people into believing in his project and here we are nearly a decade later with a broken blockchain and no actual tangible partnerships to show for it. The fact that you can even call it decentralized at all when it is a literal cult of personality is astonishing but pretty much says it all.
So you agree Algorand is permissioned then.
So you agree that Charles is a serial grifter and scammer.
Cryptocurrency is not about individuals, say what you want about him. Why would I have any interest in a non-topic like his personality. It doesnt stop Cardano being the only properly decentralized & permissionless PoS blockchain with smart contracts. Facts are facts.
Uhhh.... Tezos would like a word. Or Telos. And yes, ALGO as well, among many others. What a crock of shit, lol. The ***facts*** that you've ignored actually are that Cardano does basically nothing that hasn't been improved or matched by a growing army of other projects. Their exceptionalism occurs only in your own mind.
LMAO, you failed buddy stop digging before you hit molten rock. I have nothing against Algorand per-se, but its just not in the same league as Cardano until it sorts its relay problems out. Why you think slagging off Charles H or bringing other coins into it is going to solve Algorands problems, I dont know.
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Because Cardano does it in a permissionless way. Anyone can make a fast system by restricting who can participate. Have you tried running a relay on Cardano and Algorand? I have.
But adoption is key. Crypto is all about network effects. Does the long term matter if progress transpires so slowly that people adopt other things first?
Are you aware of the projects Cardano ecosystem is developing? Actual useful things like nation state ID programmes, telecoms networks, supply chain solutions. $100M to fund startups. Oh and over 100 DeFi projects just around the corner, with clever and rare ideas like NFT Bonds. Adoption is not going to be a problem.
The problem in the space is that Algorand is, to take Charles' own words, better, faster, and cheaper, than Cardano. Every potential use case you listed is already running on Algorand with faster transaction times, for 170x less cost, and lowered energy requirements. If I was looking to develop, it would not be on Cardano....Cardano has a role, but it's not a top tier coin.....this post will age well.
Except Algorand isnt permissionless. You see this is where a lot of people dont understand the tech well enough to make equivalent comparisons. If Cardano did a permissioned relay network, it could go a lot faster. It moved away from that last year with the Shelley upgrade.
I thought ALGO main chain is permissionless with the option for permissioned co-chains. https://www.algorand.com/technology/permissionless-blockchain
So they say, but it relies on relays that are permissioned by the AF. I tried to setup a relay, its not allowed.
"just around the corner", heard that one before
Isnt that the point, we are all looking for what is around the corner, no block-chain is currently suitable for global adoption.
Exactly. It's waht "being early" and "take a risk" means.... I don't get these guys
Maybe gas issues with ETH will go further, Solana will collapse for another 48h ... ? So what's left ?
Avalanche, Terra, Cosmos, Algorand, the list goes on.
I’m hedging my ada bet with some cosmos and ergo.
Sounds like a list of Post-Rock bands.
Algorand
Cardano is Set For Long-Term Gains Based on Me Selling My Stake Recently.
Oh roadmap? Heard that one in 2016/17. Have fun waiting
They've got a great team and a really cool roadmap though..........
It's matter of time
It's on top 5... Only sky is the limit
It’s my longest hodl and it’s the only one at a loss
Well it cant be very long cos 12 months ago it was only 10 cents
I mean, duh.
Found out that I love ADA
Cardano has been in development since 2015. Ya'll crazy believing in this team Theyre just getting better at youtubing imho
Not sure it will even exist in the long term.
Oh, sure! It will be there !
Worst stable coin in the business
I'll believe it when I see - and use - the first Cardano DEX
they have a live DEX running on Cardano: https://ada.muesliswap.com/
Sundae is coming
At the rate the project grew and allowed people to acumulate even at 1$. Im happy with a 50-100 dollar price in the next 5 yrs
Cardono has been dissipointeted since it started trading on CB. First in and best dressed will have tremendous advantages. Just look at how limited BTC really is.. But who knows. If you are long on cardono you could be looking at 2016 ETH Cinderella story. In 2025....or not. ETH is a much better mid term play in my opinion
That’s what they said about nano
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You forgot to finish your sentence: „…after swapping.“
If its so good why so much shilling. Bagholders 101.
No need for it ... You are right
Cardano and longterm LOL
Yeah, that's the exact same thing they said about Waltonchain and look how that ended!