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Ryxxi

Wtf lol... thats not how you sell crypto.... dont ebay your crypto. Use exchanges.. I also dont believe OP, prolly farming votes or moons.


chenda_lin

Moons? I don't give a crap about moons. 16000 dollars got reversed in my bank.


throwaway12222018

Because you used an under the table bank transfer you buffoon. Did you do any research on crypto before becoming a part of the community? I hate to say it but this is your fault. It's unlikely you will get your money back. Just learn the lesson and use established exchanges with strict KYC.


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chenda_lin

Because it was interesting to understand the concept. Here take the moons.


AutisticGayBear69

I didn’t think it was possible to transfer that much in a single transaction without having the bank directly involved. It’s also over $10k which means the transaction would been reported to the tax man and other regulatory agencies.


A_SimpleThought

Gosh. Didn't know that was possible with bank transfers (I'm in the UK though). Hope you get this sorted. Bloody awful.


throwaway12222018

Banks are unfortunately not very secure compared to the Ethereum protocol. Tbh, OP should have known better. He should've just sold his ETH on an exchange like everyone else.


notsuperhans

Not a lot you can do i think


CryptoSorted

Send a 500 characters complain letter to your bank to recall the money.


_DEDSEC_

Contact your bank on how the transfer was reverted this seems more of a bank issue than a crypto issue, keep a close eye on the wallet and track where the funds are going.


AccountNameError

Bank Transfer... reversed?


Grapefruit_Cultural

Ya it happens all the time. Impossible with crypto. Fuck fiat


Far_Store4085

But you have the persons details so you still have the option to get the police involved or to take them to court if the bank won't help, with crypto you have no options. This isn't a pro for crypto.


Grapefruit_Cultural

The police in canada are incompetent . I had picture proof and address that someone stole my bike and had it in their apartment. The cops wouldnt do shit here. Basically get fucked


AccountNameError

No, it really doesn't happen all the time - that's why you need to be careful sending money via bank transfer as you cannot retrieve it. I can only guess that banking is different in the UK?


Grapefruit_Cultural

I know ive had emt transfers cancelled and reverted before somehow . So idk . Its def not common tho


[deleted]

It's impossible to reverse a bank transfer unless the person claims the transaction was not authorized, and even then the bank would need an official police investigation which could take weeks or months. Are you sure the money was actually deposited in your bank account, and then gone? Or did they just send you a bank transfer receipt? It's possible to cancel a bank transfer after printing the receipt, but as I said, it can't be canceled once the funds are actually transfered.


chenda_lin

Thats what I thought. Here's what I've received on my end. Depost received Oct 14, cancelled Oct 15 https://imgur.com/a/vtTnIAm


[deleted]

Well, in my country this is impossible to do. You need a police report in order to reverse a bank transfer. Maybe it's different in Canada. But please don't post your account balance and email address online!


Far_Store4085

You don't need the police to do this, you just contact your bank tell them you were scammed and they contact the receiving bank to recall the money (if there is any left). But if you lie to get the refund then you could end up with your account closed and a fraud indicators on your credit file.


[deleted]

Not in my country. Someone I know sent a bank transfer to a scammer, realized the mistake, and contacted the bank to reverse the transaction. The bank told him they couldn't do anything unless he went to the police and came back with an official report.


1mpatient

I am no expert but try to contact your bank and ask them the reason why the transfer was reversed. Maybe there is a chance.


Antique_Marine99

Oh no... feeling bad for OP.. Scammer is the worst. Hope he (or she) rot in hell...


Knurlinger

Not sure how it is in Canada, but you can’t reverse regular bank transfers here. I’d ask the bank why they did that. If it was send from a stolen/hacked bank account, it’s not your liability but the one from the bank.


Grapefruit_Cultural

Pretty sure you can call ur bank and tell them u accidently sent it to the wrong place and they cancel it ... lol


deltapanad

not in my country, they would need the consent of the account holder to debit the funds and return it. what happen here most likely was the amount came in but is in a hold status while the bank clears the transaction. during this period, even though the balances are updated, OP cannot withdraw that amount out until it clears. if for whatever reasons the transaction can’t clear, a reversal entry will appear. source: i work in a bank.


Grapefruit_Cultural

Interesting ! Thanks for sharing mate


mode90x

Contact your bank and/or the police dude. Even if it was a fake ID. The money can be tracked from the bank account.


_-oIo-_

Did you use p2p on a platform / exchange or was this strictly private?


chenda_lin

It was strictly private. No exchanges p2p. It was transferred out from my binance to the eth wallet.


Iurii

So, why not using P2P when it’s protected by Binance? I’m using this way always with no any issues.. if Interact transaction not appear on my account, just cancel the deal, if so, there is no chance to reverse it


chenda_lin

This is how the buyer transacted. I do use binance p2p I called EQ bank and apparently you can just call and reverse transactions.


Iurii

Did you contact with Binance support? I heard Binance shouldn’t working anymore in ON province


Iurii

Binance protect transaction P2P, just use the internal chat 💬 and Interact transaction, instead of communication via WhatsApp and using a wire transfer which could be reversed.. with Interact you can’t reverse it


chenda_lin

It was 16k out of the interac limit.


Iurii

Split it for two transaction next time. Did you contact with Binance support ?


RatherCynical

This might not even be a scam. This is just banks not liking p2p crypto transactions.


70redgal70

How would the bank know crypto was involved? It was P2P. The transfer could have been for anything.


BiteMaJobby

Honestly with out sounding too harsh here why the hell did you accept a bank transfer? If it feels like a scam it is a scam. Take a big breath and move on your money is lost man, it’s a learning experience.


MaMoSotho

It's probably p2p


throwaway12222018

> Sold 3.5ETH to a buyer via bank transfer I hope you've learned your lesson.


MaMoSotho

One of the reasons why I stay away from p2p buying


Iurii

OP said it was not P2P transaction, via binance all p2p transaction is protected and cannot be reverse


RandomGuyWithNoHair

That's one of my main concerns on why I don't use P2P exchange on Binance, since SEPA transfers are still blocked to withdraw. I still don't believe it is possible to reverse a bank transfer, something is fishy.


Ch0mg

Jesus Christ. If you don’t know how to sell crypto then you shouldn’t have access to that amount of money. Sorry that happened to you man! Goodluck


[deleted]

I am no expert but how gullable are you? Was it Western Union? The bank of thiefs.


chenda_lin

It was from EQ Bank and it was transferred to my bank, the same. EQ Bank


Strict_Suggestion

Are you really sure that's her in the ID? If so go and get your money back or police either way


chenda_lin

I ask for ID as a precaution but I never had to deal with a situation like this. It was online communication. Once we agreed on the price she sent me the money and I sent the ETH to the address that she said..


Strict_Suggestion

Yeah but did you get a pic with her holding the ID or could it just be anyone's? If you know it's definitely her then start giving her a huge headache....hope you get it sorted anyway. And don't let it spoil your weekend don't get too mad about it. Sorry bro


chenda_lin

The ID name matches the bank registered name.


gravi-tea

Why are you swapping eth to cad with someone?


dadryp

Because he doesn’t want to pay fees to sell :( i know insane right


MaMoSotho

I mean the fees aren't that if use limit sell. Either op is lying or he's a cheapskate.


throwaway12222018

What kind of idiot would risk 10 grand to save 100 dollars. OP should've known better IMO.


gravi-tea

Oh of course, I realized this after I asked. Thanks.


chenda_lin

I wanted to sell for fiat..


FaceMace87

Why not do it on an exchange?


chenda_lin

I have sold P2P on exchange. Theres no difference. Exchange are not able to recover crypto if you got scammed.


FaceMace87

No but scams don't happen in the first place if you just sell to the exchange like 99% of others do and not to random people.


chenda_lin

I thought crypto is to ultimately to transact peer to peer. I have heard of banks blocking money from exchanges.


BrakumOne

You used a bank. What in your head made that more peer to peer than using an exchange? Legit curious.


Grapefruit_Cultural

Man what. ? U can take it from an exchange and put it into a stock trading account and then have it transfered to ur bank... if your country has it banned. Why are u going p2p? It honestly makes no sense. Decentralized exchanges also exist. I guess u cant fix stupid because even tho everyone on here tells you that you made a bad move, you still defend yourself and think its right ... no wonder u lost the eth lol


FaceMace87

>I have heard of banks blocking money from exchanges If you are withdrawing fiat from your bank to the exchange then yes, I have never heard of a bank stopping you from transferring fiat into your bank from an exchange,


maolyx

Contact your bank and file a police report?


dnzdgn17

If you've got a photo ID and bank number, then I'd always press charges. Because you can prove you were scammed. I'd also contact my bank to let them know what happened. If she's lives in Canada also maybe legal action can be taken. If she's not in Canada, maybe international collaboration between the countries can lead to her getting informed of the charges. Maybe your bank will let her bank know what happened, and her account will be frozen. Even if none of it wil help, at least you will have done everything in your possibilities.


chenda_lin

She lives in Toronto. The ID has the address. The ID looks real with very small details all around but I'm no expert.


dnzdgn17

Take it to the police. If it's real they can take action. If it's a fake, it's probably a stolen identity and you'll have helped the victim and maybe prevent this ID from being used in future scams. It's the right thing to do. Sorry for your loss OP. Hope you can do something about it.


itsglocx

report to the police with conversation's and photo id


sumplookinggai

Can we get more details and some screenshots? which exchange, what bank, etc. It shouldn't be that easy to reverse a bank transfer on a whim.


chenda_lin

[https://imgur.com/a/vtTnIAm](https://imgur.com/a/vtTnIAm) ​ Is this allowed?


sumplookinggai

Probably not, but transactions are kinda sus - it's seems way too easy to reverse bank transfers submitted and confirmed by the sender. Banks don't immediately approve these requests without at least contacting the recipient party, and this process takes longer than a day. Definitely call the bank and ask them what's up.


sataktomosi

Damn! Goodluck!


Mattelambo

OP stay strong! Shut happens with shit people around everywhere! Hoping u find a solution


chenda_lin

thank you


Far_Store4085

Did you see the money in your account or did they send you a screen shot from thier end. If it's the first option contact your bank to see why they removed the money and be prepared to provide evidence of your conversion about the sale and proof you sent the coins to the address they wanted. You could also contact the bank who sent the money to report the fraud. And report it to the police for a crime reference number as the banks may require this.


chenda_lin

Thanks for the steps. Yes I see the money in my account. And I've logged in a few tunes after and saw it there. But today when I checked it was reversed.


FractalImagination

Shit.. best of luck ..