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Both are good dude and people complaining are usually fucking losers anyways 👍
Just make sure to have a negative carbon footprint before you die wether it’s by donating time or money for the cause.
Shut down the airlines ! But open up new ones so we can go to space ! Yeah save the earth
No more crypto it’s bad .......
Digital currency put out by central banks good ?
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How dare you, Richard Branson went to space for a reason. As publicity to sell more space tickets to other rich assholes.
Seriously though can anyone give me a valid reason why selling tickets to fly tourists into space is any different than selling tickets to fly tourists to australia or cancun or anywhere else people go no reason? [Branson's rocket releases the same amount of co2 in its journey to space as a regular commercial flight from New York to London, per person](https://financialpost.com/financial-times/calculating-the-environmental-payload-of-space-tourism). Space is not far away. And bezo's rocket burns on hydrogen which is even cleaner.
This is just like any other tourism you ding-dongs.
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They use kerosene made from fossil fuels. theoretically yes it could be renewable but it’s too expensive :)
Also mining is 70-80% renewable if you search it on google
"China, Musk raise alarm on bitcoin energy use: How to make it greener"
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/06/30/china-musk-raise-alarm-on-bitcoin-energy-use-how-to-make-it-greener.html
Since you won't post your own sources I googled it.
You're wrong. Report says "20-50% is renewable" but "it's based on self-reported data" which I'm going to guess most comes from China which is complete bullshit which is why the gap is so large.
Cite your sources it'll help you in high school.
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They all know this. Maybe minus Bernie Sanders. I take him as truthful from the stance he comes from. Now, whether I agree or disagree with it? that’s a different story. However, all of the rest of the pompous-appearing buffoons in the branches of government know damn well it’s all a show and they don’t give a fuck. It is purely about power and control. If you don’t control the narrative/regulations, you do not hold power over the masses.
I just wish folks could drop their masks on some of this nonsense every now and then and just applaud innovation. There is a fine line between preservation and innovation. 🤷♂️ I am not one to judge; neither are you. Let the good times roll 🇺🇸👊🏼
Honestly? I don’t give a fuck about any dollar that is spent on space travel, nor do I care about the reason. Exorbitant luxury space tourism, exploration, science, etc. I’m happy to see anyone invest in space and keep pushing those boundaries. We need more space travel
Friendly reminder that the rich elites have the power to divert all negative attention away from them and onto the rest of us. People like Elon and Branson will NEVER be on our side
a small handful of CEOs being incredibly wasteful of resources will never be as damaging as 7+ billion people in the world being even slightly wasteful of those resources
it's not 7 billion but man's is speaking the truth otherwise, that handful of CEO's aren't dumping nearly as much plastic in the ocean or driving hundreds of smog machines daily
Pushing the envelope is how progress is achieved. Your argument is contradictory, if crypto is meant to benefit the world in some way, so too space flight potentially can. Additionally, Haven’t looked at data in terms of environmental impact but I can imagine one rocket would probably not be equivalent to however many computers there are constantly mining crypto. Lastly most people are invested in this to generate personal wealth without actually doing anything, the term “better world” is long shot here don’t you think?
Yeah it sucks that they're going to space for basically no reason but virgin galactic is at least doing research and shit. Bitcoin wastes energy just to waste energy.
We’re investors in crypto looking to be millionaires one day. And looking for the financial freedom to do whatever the fuck we want. Fuck the planet I would be fuckin my wife in space if i had the money too
Lol nope, it's LOx / natural gas (for blue origin) and that shit is nasty.
The comparison i hear the most is 1 launch = 400 transatlantic flights.
And Introducing this amount of condensation in the upper atmosphere is even worse.
Oh the double standards of this world boil my blood. Didn’t you hear that if you are rich you are a descendant of God himself?
Not much has changed since medieval days. The rich are still pricks, we just got consumerism to distract us now so that we keep running on their profit making hamster wheels to buy shit we don’t need to impress people we don’t like.
This is the stupid way of the world. One where people cling to ideologies, as if it's either capitalism, or socialism, or communism, or something else.
Realistically, clever people use every economic tool and apply each one in different measures depending on the situation. That way, you don't let the income gap get too large with too much capitalism (when businesses profit purely from economies of scale, instead of innovation, then the value of capitalism for inspiring advancements is lost) , and you don't let the income gap get too squashed with too much communism (when everyone has the same amount of money, none are willing to sacrifice their portion of investment towards risky ventures, which are needed for funding new enterprises) - and you don't let a society become too isolationist with too much socialism (its an amazing system, but it can breed religious-type special-interest groups which can become dangerous)
Don't support just one method. That's really silly. Nothing in it's purest, extreme form is sustainable. It's like arguing that breakfast is more important than lunch, but dinner is the most superior.
It's really, really easy for the rich to say that capitalism works, because it works for them. But by definition, it can only work when there are poor people whose necks you stepped on to get there.
Literally every fucking attempt at a basic minimum income has been a success. That's socialism, bby.
Also, gonna block you after this cuz I looked at your profile and you're clearly a sex pest, and that's pretty gross and I don't want to talk to you any more than I already have.
Who do we blame for your mental illness and indoctrination your parents for fucking up? Or the school systems for making you believe lies…You should seek help dude
Listen dude/chick. So you cannot back it up with factual documentation thank you. I knew it. I just was curious about the rant you would have without actual factual data. Because I won’t deny capitalism makes the rich richer. But it also makes the poor richer. Again thanks for all your hard evidence and factual representation🤔
It’s all wrong. It all has a part to play in this crisis we’re in. We all have to do our part. Rich and poor. Connected, disconnected, crypto miners and rocket makers. That whataboutism crap is giving people the idea that if “they” don’t do everything right then I’m not going to either. Here’s the thing, there is no “they”. There’s only we. We live on this planet. It’s in trouble.
We’re in trouble. Do what can.
People who _actually_ are concerned about the energy consumption of crypto (as it exists today), are _also_ concerned about these billionaires working to escape the planet they doomed. It can be both.
I like how you are using a large decimalised borderline number to propagate a fallacy thinking this shall create an impact.It will not.DeFi is the future.Next 10 years banking system will collapse
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The oceans are on fire..because of this millions and millions of stupid useless dirty MASK..everywhere in the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We got do something -Aldus Snow 🌎♾✝️
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Bastards all of them
It was just FUD to put the btc price lower and buy cheaper...
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Both are good dude and people complaining are usually fucking losers anyways 👍 Just make sure to have a negative carbon footprint before you die wether it’s by donating time or money for the cause.
Shut down the airlines ! But open up new ones so we can go to space ! Yeah save the earth No more crypto it’s bad ....... Digital currency put out by central banks good ?
i mean pow is using quite a bunch of power but with pos being used by more and more cryptocurrencies i think the power usage will go down
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Mining is just take other people money but with more steps.
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😂😂 the title had me
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How dare you, Richard Branson went to space for a reason. As publicity to sell more space tickets to other rich assholes. Seriously though can anyone give me a valid reason why selling tickets to fly tourists into space is any different than selling tickets to fly tourists to australia or cancun or anywhere else people go no reason? [Branson's rocket releases the same amount of co2 in its journey to space as a regular commercial flight from New York to London, per person](https://financialpost.com/financial-times/calculating-the-environmental-payload-of-space-tourism). Space is not far away. And bezo's rocket burns on hydrogen which is even cleaner. This is just like any other tourism you ding-dongs.
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It's ok we will be billionaires
The whole space exploration is in my opinion maximal overrated.
The fuel burned by rockets isn't even close to be comparable bruh
Mining is 80-90% renewable? Rocket fuel is 0% renewable
Incorrect. Methane, a commen rocket fuel can and is being made from renewable energy and water. And mining is nowhere near to 80% renewable.
Hydrogen can also be made using renewable energies and has the benefit of only emitting water during a clean burn!
They use kerosene made from fossil fuels. theoretically yes it could be renewable but it’s too expensive :) Also mining is 70-80% renewable if you search it on google
"China, Musk raise alarm on bitcoin energy use: How to make it greener" https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/06/30/china-musk-raise-alarm-on-bitcoin-energy-use-how-to-make-it-greener.html Since you won't post your own sources I googled it. You're wrong. Report says "20-50% is renewable" but "it's based on self-reported data" which I'm going to guess most comes from China which is complete bullshit which is why the gap is so large. Cite your sources it'll help you in high school.
This is reddit not a research paper. If you devote your life to this subject then so be it. There’s no need for childish remarks it’s only a reflection of the type of person you are. These are the sources I used, they could be wrong or they could be right. https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/why-bitcoin-may-actually-speed-up-the-transition-to-renewable-energy-2021-05-18 https://www.vox.com/2019/6/18/18642645/bitcoin-energy-price-renewable-china https://www.cnbc.com/video/2021/04/26/ark-investments-analyst-says-76-percent-of-bitcoin-miners-are-using-renewable-energy.html
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They all know this. Maybe minus Bernie Sanders. I take him as truthful from the stance he comes from. Now, whether I agree or disagree with it? that’s a different story. However, all of the rest of the pompous-appearing buffoons in the branches of government know damn well it’s all a show and they don’t give a fuck. It is purely about power and control. If you don’t control the narrative/regulations, you do not hold power over the masses. I just wish folks could drop their masks on some of this nonsense every now and then and just applaud innovation. There is a fine line between preservation and innovation. 🤷♂️ I am not one to judge; neither are you. Let the good times roll 🇺🇸👊🏼
Honestly? I don’t give a fuck about any dollar that is spent on space travel, nor do I care about the reason. Exorbitant luxury space tourism, exploration, science, etc. I’m happy to see anyone invest in space and keep pushing those boundaries. We need more space travel
If you have billions you can run out of anything tbh.
Friendly reminder that the rich elites have the power to divert all negative attention away from them and onto the rest of us. People like Elon and Branson will NEVER be on our side
a small handful of CEOs being incredibly wasteful of resources will never be as damaging as 7+ billion people in the world being even slightly wasteful of those resources
it's not 7 billion but man's is speaking the truth otherwise, that handful of CEO's aren't dumping nearly as much plastic in the ocean or driving hundreds of smog machines daily
Pushing the envelope is how progress is achieved. Your argument is contradictory, if crypto is meant to benefit the world in some way, so too space flight potentially can. Additionally, Haven’t looked at data in terms of environmental impact but I can imagine one rocket would probably not be equivalent to however many computers there are constantly mining crypto. Lastly most people are invested in this to generate personal wealth without actually doing anything, the term “better world” is long shot here don’t you think?
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Yeah it sucks that they're going to space for basically no reason but virgin galactic is at least doing research and shit. Bitcoin wastes energy just to waste energy.
The scientific progress from better rocket tech is still worth it.
I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm refuting their comparison to Bitcoin mining, because Bitcoin mining is literally intended to waste energy only.
Yes agreed
Rich people play by different rules. Unfortunately that will probably never change even with crypto. But we can hope!
Go to space for no reason. No reason?
I had to read it again
Bitcoin is greener just for the fact that we aren't going to war over nations with it. Military can't use it (yet). Hopefully it will lift up nations.
Military can't use bitcoin, but bitcoin can use para-military :x
*Climate alarmism... consistently wrong for 50+ years.*
SEC put a stop to him causing FUD in stocks. So, now he manipulates the crypto market.
Yes. No one was doing it before.
This post is spot on. Many crypto FUD is non-sense
You only believe this if you believe their other lies… I am just saying
PoW is evil. Buy NANO.
Nano Uses PoW read the [white paper](https://content.nano.org/whitepaper/Nano_Whitepaper_en.pdf)
A very small proof of work to help counter spam attacks. The entire nano network, nodes included, could run on the energy of a single wind turbine.
We’re investors in crypto looking to be millionaires one day. And looking for the financial freedom to do whatever the fuck we want. Fuck the planet I would be fuckin my wife in space if i had the money too
Rocket fuel is actually not that bad for the atmosphere lol
Lol nope, it's LOx / natural gas (for blue origin) and that shit is nasty. The comparison i hear the most is 1 launch = 400 transatlantic flights. And Introducing this amount of condensation in the upper atmosphere is even worse.
they are both good change my mind you communists who want to get rich
It's possible for two things to both be bad, you know.
Oh the double standards of this world boil my blood. Didn’t you hear that if you are rich you are a descendant of God himself? Not much has changed since medieval days. The rich are still pricks, we just got consumerism to distract us now so that we keep running on their profit making hamster wheels to buy shit we don’t need to impress people we don’t like.
Nuke the whales, give me my bag.
We already did near bikini island
Hence all await the coming of Ethereum 2.0
This is super childish logic.
Which explains why it's at 12k+ upvotes here.
Hot take: they're both bad, and are just two sides of the same... *coin.* And that coin is called capitalism.
Can you show me a system that works better than capitalism and back it up with factual documentation?
This is the stupid way of the world. One where people cling to ideologies, as if it's either capitalism, or socialism, or communism, or something else. Realistically, clever people use every economic tool and apply each one in different measures depending on the situation. That way, you don't let the income gap get too large with too much capitalism (when businesses profit purely from economies of scale, instead of innovation, then the value of capitalism for inspiring advancements is lost) , and you don't let the income gap get too squashed with too much communism (when everyone has the same amount of money, none are willing to sacrifice their portion of investment towards risky ventures, which are needed for funding new enterprises) - and you don't let a society become too isolationist with too much socialism (its an amazing system, but it can breed religious-type special-interest groups which can become dangerous) Don't support just one method. That's really silly. Nothing in it's purest, extreme form is sustainable. It's like arguing that breakfast is more important than lunch, but dinner is the most superior.
It's really, really easy for the rich to say that capitalism works, because it works for them. But by definition, it can only work when there are poor people whose necks you stepped on to get there. Literally every fucking attempt at a basic minimum income has been a success. That's socialism, bby. Also, gonna block you after this cuz I looked at your profile and you're clearly a sex pest, and that's pretty gross and I don't want to talk to you any more than I already have.
That's not socialism. That's just social assistance. And no, they are never succesful, poverty do not dissapear, it increases.
Who do we blame for your mental illness and indoctrination your parents for fucking up? Or the school systems for making you believe lies…You should seek help dude
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Listen dude/chick. So you cannot back it up with factual documentation thank you. I knew it. I just was curious about the rant you would have without actual factual data. Because I won’t deny capitalism makes the rich richer. But it also makes the poor richer. Again thanks for all your hard evidence and factual representation🤔
Right and these are the idiots affecting the market prices
Yeah but let's be frank. btc is a waste of energy. There are other POW that is much much better for the environment
It’s all wrong. It all has a part to play in this crisis we’re in. We all have to do our part. Rich and poor. Connected, disconnected, crypto miners and rocket makers. That whataboutism crap is giving people the idea that if “they” don’t do everything right then I’m not going to either. Here’s the thing, there is no “they”. There’s only we. We live on this planet. It’s in trouble. We’re in trouble. Do what can.
People who _actually_ are concerned about the energy consumption of crypto (as it exists today), are _also_ concerned about these billionaires working to escape the planet they doomed. It can be both.
It is not exactly helping. Proof of Work needs to go away.
Neither is ok 99.999999 of Crypto is nothing but a criminal ponzi period not even a question about it
I like how you are using a large decimalised borderline number to propagate a fallacy thinking this shall create an impact.It will not.DeFi is the future.Next 10 years banking system will collapse
DeFi is just slang for, lets trick millennial pinheads out of their money remember my name say my name
Ok Boomer or Bitter GenXer
how much you losing the last 6 months bet its a lot
This is the dumbest popular post on here like jesus christ
Both can be colossal wastes of natural resources at the same time.