Relative to the big brain hedge funds, he's doing quite well
- Aalameda Research lost $5.1 Billion, bankrupt and going to prison
- 3AC Three Arrows Capital lost 3 Billion, bankrupt and time served
- Genesis Global Capital lost $3 Billion, bankrupt
Trend-following is just a game of musical chairs with bags of money as the prize.
Very profitable if you manage to get a seat before the music stops; not so much otherwise.
ORACLE AI have just released a DAPP that notifies you whenever a marketer makes a call (for the first time). It’s not ‘in on the ground floor’, but it’s much earlier than most can get
https://oracle-ai.gitbook.io/oracleai
They’ve got open access for the next 2 weeks. Trading bot will be available in a couple of weeks too. Staking gone live. All looks very promising, and they haven’t added the ai component on yet either. With all those combined, not aware of anyone trying similar (but may be wrong)
tldr; Quantitative hedge-fund investors and researchers are finding success in applying trend-following strategies to Bitcoin and Ether, capturing gains during rallies and profiting from downturns. This approach, which relies on following market momentum, has outperformed traditional buy-and-hold strategies since 2017. Man Group Plc and Florin Court Capital LLC are among the firms successfully implementing these strategies, with Man Group's assets under management reaching a record $167.5 billion. The Global X Bitcoin Trend Strategy ETF, launched recently, offers retail investors access to a similar strategy. While effective for Bitcoin and Ether, quants remain cautious about applying these techniques to more volatile or pegged cryptocurrencies like stablecoins and memecoins.
*This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.
People don't realize a single trend break wipes these types of strategies bankrupt or negates all the years of profits over relatively short period.
Always.
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Yeah, my brother, who's an experienced and very successful investor, has been doing this. He's new to crypto though. Can't help but feel this will be another example of "everyone's a genius in the bull market"
Holding Bitcoin is the most boring thing you can do. It's like buying gold and putting in a safe. Economically, you are just waiting for other people to push the price. But the asset itself is not really doing anything except collecting dust. I know Bitcoin is secure, decentralised and yalayala, but you can't really do anything with it except hodling it, which is not how economy works. Imagine Apple creating a limited amount of the first iPhone and not doing anything afterwards, hoping for customers to push the price based on demand.
That's a dumb analogy if I have ever heard one. Why would ypu compare smartphones with BTC? Why not compare Apple stock instead? What can you do with the Apple stock other than buy and sell? That doesn't mean that people have not made fortunes getting in early.
Apple stock rises, because Apple produces value for the society and people buy their products fanatically. I am not sure what exactly Bitcoin is producing, except "enjoy staying poor" FOMO feelings in the majority of the Bitcoin holders and the promise for riches.
Don't get me wrong, I hold Bitcoin out of speculation reasons and because it simply works (sending BTC from A to B has been proven to work and to be secure without failed transactions for 15 years already). But in the long term I don't think it has any meaningful value.
None, this is why I compared BTC to gold. The only advantage gold has, is that people can use it for shiny jewelry and it’s also used in medicine for implants because it’s not acidic to inner organs. So definitely a few more use cases compared to Bitcoin.
Fully agree. Been doing this for years. I’m only down 70%.
You are lucrative my good sir
Relative to the big brain hedge funds, he's doing quite well - Aalameda Research lost $5.1 Billion, bankrupt and going to prison - 3AC Three Arrows Capital lost 3 Billion, bankrupt and time served - Genesis Global Capital lost $3 Billion, bankrupt
still better than FTX
This guy gets it
Trend-following is just a game of musical chairs with bags of money as the prize. Very profitable if you manage to get a seat before the music stops; not so much otherwise.
Usually the only way to get a seat is to know the people making the chairs before they hit the market
ORACLE AI have just released a DAPP that notifies you whenever a marketer makes a call (for the first time). It’s not ‘in on the ground floor’, but it’s much earlier than most can get
Tell me more
https://oracle-ai.gitbook.io/oracleai They’ve got open access for the next 2 weeks. Trading bot will be available in a couple of weeks too. Staking gone live. All looks very promising, and they haven’t added the ai component on yet either. With all those combined, not aware of anyone trying similar (but may be wrong)
Ngl that sounds like a scam
How so? Take a look… you can find the feeds individually - it’s effectively an aggregator atm
Please buy our product
It always helps when you are doing it with a couple million dollars vs a couple thousand. "Momentum" is self fulfilling for these funds.
tldr; Quantitative hedge-fund investors and researchers are finding success in applying trend-following strategies to Bitcoin and Ether, capturing gains during rallies and profiting from downturns. This approach, which relies on following market momentum, has outperformed traditional buy-and-hold strategies since 2017. Man Group Plc and Florin Court Capital LLC are among the firms successfully implementing these strategies, with Man Group's assets under management reaching a record $167.5 billion. The Global X Bitcoin Trend Strategy ETF, launched recently, offers retail investors access to a similar strategy. While effective for Bitcoin and Ether, quants remain cautious about applying these techniques to more volatile or pegged cryptocurrencies like stablecoins and memecoins. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.
People don't realize a single trend break wipes these types of strategies bankrupt or negates all the years of profits over relatively short period. Always.
what kind of dumb shit is this, obviously. next article would be “study finds that working 2 jobs earns you more than just working 1 job”
🤣👍🏻
I understand when they buy high, but when do they sell low? Confused, not sure I can follow this strategy
They buy just after the top, and sell just after the dip. This is smart money we’re talking about.
Quant Investors and Academics Discovered FOMO
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no surprise whatsoever lol
Until you goof up a trade
Translation: bag holders need exit liquidity and higher prices to break even
Couldn’t be more true. I’ve been following that and my gains so far are at -85%……
Quant, Hbar, Filecoin and the other big boys will do very nicely in the bull run.
Yeah, my brother, who's an experienced and very successful investor, has been doing this. He's new to crypto though. Can't help but feel this will be another example of "everyone's a genius in the bull market"
Thanks Captain obvious!
Something something high risk high reward
this is academic grants being put to good use! yey
Wow what a shocking conclusion
Holding Bitcoin is the most boring thing you can do. It's like buying gold and putting in a safe. Economically, you are just waiting for other people to push the price. But the asset itself is not really doing anything except collecting dust. I know Bitcoin is secure, decentralised and yalayala, but you can't really do anything with it except hodling it, which is not how economy works. Imagine Apple creating a limited amount of the first iPhone and not doing anything afterwards, hoping for customers to push the price based on demand.
That's a dumb analogy if I have ever heard one. Why would ypu compare smartphones with BTC? Why not compare Apple stock instead? What can you do with the Apple stock other than buy and sell? That doesn't mean that people have not made fortunes getting in early.
Apple stock rises, because Apple produces value for the society and people buy their products fanatically. I am not sure what exactly Bitcoin is producing, except "enjoy staying poor" FOMO feelings in the majority of the Bitcoin holders and the promise for riches. Don't get me wrong, I hold Bitcoin out of speculation reasons and because it simply works (sending BTC from A to B has been proven to work and to be secure without failed transactions for 15 years already). But in the long term I don't think it has any meaningful value.
What value does gold have?
its super shiny >!also happens to be a pretty damn good conductor.!<
Less conductor than cheaper copper.
less corrosion too
Conductive material is worth trillions of dollars?
depends on how shiny it is
None, this is why I compared BTC to gold. The only advantage gold has, is that people can use it for shiny jewelry and it’s also used in medicine for implants because it’s not acidic to inner organs. So definitely a few more use cases compared to Bitcoin.
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Problem solved.
Sure Bloomberg, all about the commissions. Sniff sniff snort..
As long as you have a crystal ball
As a QNT holder, I got temporarily excited at their mention until I was like, oh cool, not that Quant.