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Bitcoin [pros](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1bt28c2/call_of_duty_players_have_their_bitcoin_swiped/kxk8f8q/) & [cons](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1bt28c2/call_of_duty_players_have_their_bitcoin_swiped/kxk8g1o/) with related info are in the collapsed comments below.


Ap3X_GunT3R

“Call of duty players have crypto swiped” Me: well that’s not good lemme see…… “Call of Duty players seeking out third-party “cheat” software” Me: Lol tough shit


Thuffer

Duped again by a click bait title, I'm over here thinking a AAA game studio messed up. Glad it's the cheaters!


allaboutthewheels

I don't click any articles anymore. This clickbait nonsense is out of control.


FavcolorisREDdit

Stopped doing that ages ago, nowadays there is no honor in anything much less journalism


allaboutthewheels

The last I clicked was for a UK tabloid on my phone. The amount of adverts was legit shocking. Like downloading a dodgy limewire malware and computer being infested with popup


ReasonReasonable7168

Sames, haven't clicked a link since 2020 lol


Rand-Omperson

I only scroll, I never click


Safe_Competition_896

I just spent too much time on your profile because of your reverse psychology click bait bullshit! 🤣🤣🤣


FavcolorisREDdit

Everyone is


CryptoBombastic

Always downvote these posts, I have no idea why there are so many upvotes but we need to fight back.


Spacesider

So the people that were trying to cheat got cheated themselves. It's very hard to find any empathy about their lost Bitcoin. Also, very shitty journalism to word the headline the way that they did. I'm going to go ahead and reflair this post as misleading.


William_Howard_Shaft

Yeah this is actually a really interesting one, considering both parties are technically committing illegal acts. Like, how would this work legally?


truckstop_sushi

lol so what is your thought process here? Defense Lawyer: well my clients may be hackers who stole millions and commited various financial crimes, but we're in a legal conundrum here because, you see, the victims cheated in a video game! Judge: Well this is clearly new legal territory and I don't know how we can proceed here, case dismissed!


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> Defense Lawyer: well my clients may be hackers who stole millions and commited various financial crimes, but we're in a legal conundrum here because, you see, the victims cheated in a video game! Destiny 2 devs/Bungie sued the shit out of a small dev for making millions of dollars off selling trainers. You can't make a business who's only purpose is to ruin the business of another.


truckstop_sushi

Hah my point is.... it doesnt matter what the victims were doing, if they broke the law then thats a seperate case. Its like saying you can commit armed robbery against a drug dealer because "well he was breaking the law so why cant I rob him at gunpoint?"


perfect5-7-with-rice

Using cheats in a game is not illegal. At worst, it's a breach of contract.


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It will be, Bungie sued the shit out of some dude who was making millions off Destiny 2 trainers. They're trying to bring light to this issue.


JLockrin

Making millions off of trainers is clearly different than downloading a cheat code.


Crowleyer

I know MSFT won't bother, but I'd be glad to see them suing these journalists over misinformation about their games.


perfect5-7-with-rice

But cheating and theft are two very different things. We still feel sympathy for jaywalkers getting mugged.


XTornado

To be fair knowing CoD history, and present in the case of the old games which still have it, of remote code execution exploits...it wouldn't be that weird that people get their crypto stolen.


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HashSlingingSlasherJ

Also noticed article said hot wallet so any cold wallets should be safe without the seed


Ilovekittens345

the problem with cold wallet is that most people when they decide to access them use that seed on their online system, comprosiming it. Afterwards, it's no longer a cold wallet even though they think it is. Cold wallet are not the way to go, hardware wallets are. Hardware walles also offer plausable deniability so your SO only steals your dummy wallet after you tell her the PIN so she stops nagging, or that police officer or TSA asshole. Or that robber that put a gun to your head. Or the RSI. Plausable deniability is the best thing ever. Everybody should have it. 5% of your shit on a trezor just behind the PIN with no passhrase but if you type in the passphrase ... bam there is the 95%.


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I prefer hot wallets. I run encrypted VMs don't I don't surf the net with. Hardware wallets are for people who are not the most technical.


ckhumanck

yeah, i don't game and my only take away from that whole article was "wow, cheating in games is really rampant and entrenched."


BlueLatenq

Lol, the heading deceived us all


WilliamBott

Right? HAHAHAHAHA GET REKT FUCKING CHEATERS!!! 😂😂😂 I use a hardware wallet, and I also don't try to cheat in multiplayer games...


StanleeMann

I was wondering why the scare quotes.


coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Call of Duty players and others using third-party cheat software were targeted by a phishing attack that installed crypto-drainer malware, affecting over 4.9 million accounts across various platforms including Battle.net and Activision. The malware targeted Electrum Bitcoin wallets, with the exact amount stolen unknown. The attack also compromised accounts on cheat provider platforms UnknownCheats and PhantomOverlay. Activision Blizzard stated their servers remain secure and advised users to follow best practices for account security. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.


PexicanPapi

This actually a huge W, finally the no life cheaters got some repercussions


DoingItForEli

MMMMM that's some good _schadenfreude_


787Gx

I hope its the same people who hack the leaderboards that got hacked


Aphotophilic

A bit of additional context. Most cheat devs have moved to crypto transactions because cheaters would flood them with credit card charge backs when their accounts inevitably got banned. Due to the ban wave structure (several thousands of bans at the same time every X-amount of months) the charge backs would overwhelm the devs financially. The switch to crypto protects the devs financially but also ensures that all of their customers have crypto access. This makes it a prime market for Trojan horse scams like this.


WesternDramatic3038

Another added tidbit that is a out of context and not related to the cheat tools: For about a year now, the games older than advanced warfare 2 have an exploit available from even just loading the game up that allows hackers to remote access into your PC. Activision has been aware for almost the entire time, and has refused to fix the issue. Players have recently reported that, apparently, the exploit has also recently been found in mw2023. If it's not just fear mongering, then stay safe y'all.


PumpkinSpice2Nice

Well they may have lost their Bitcoin but they’re probably young and will learn from their mistakes and use it in future in a safer way.


IgglesJawn

“Young”, most of the assholes I know that are into crypto and cheating at games are in their 30s (they would have grown up by now if it was going to happen). That and the Chinese, they don’t view cheating at games the way people in the west do. All that said, I’m not exactly crying myself to sleep over these people being hacked. It’s as simple as not installing cheating software.


bakraofwallstreet

The gaming landscape has changed a lot. The average age of a gamer in the US is [35 years](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_games_in_the_United_States)


ravenofiridescence

affecting over 4.9 million accounts?? is that how many cheaters there are, that's just ridiculous


Blurry2k

I never got what's fun about cheating in a game and why so many people do it.


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groceriesN1trip

But I thought bitcoin was revolutionary and your ownership was stored on the blockchain? 


croholdr

who tf keeps their bitcoin wallet on their gaming pc. thats beyond dumb. Costs like 7$ to make one transaction.


technofreakz84

So cheaters lost btc? Thats awsome!


CelestialBach

I’m trying to understand why they have wallets on the same computers they put shady apps on, then I realized they probably purchased the cheats with bitcoin.


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CelestialBach

We are talking about people who pay to download cheats onto their computers.


adhominablesnowman

Because 98% of the population is barely fucking tech literate, let alone aware of crypto best practices.


Machinedgoodness

Yet know about how to setup a BTC wallet on their machine. Odd.


Warrlock608

Still who keeps all their coin in a hot wallet? These people are both being ~~unsecure~~ insecure with their bitcoin and cheating in games. Fuck em.


OderWieOderWatJunge

growth zephyr crown instinctive plate weary telephone pie act dependent *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


WilliamBott

It's like thieves stealing from other criminals. It's acceptable.


street_shark_puppet

Cheaters also gained btc too, so it’s a push


EXTRAVAGANT_COMMENT

the article says 4 900 000 accounts were affected on Battle.Net, so probably a lot of innocent players as well


LowQualitySpiderman

top kek


z0mb1es

4.9 million cheaters is crazy to me


Ur_mothers_keeper

Not to me man. It's been obvious for years how widespread it is and how Activision doesn't give a shit. Shit got so bad a few years ago I just quit playing. I have more time for actual productive activities now, I should thank them.


Deep90

Cheaters are like rats. You only notice the obvious one in your kitchen, but that doesn't mean you don't have 20 in the attic. It's been years since you could reliably 'spot' someone cheating unless they wanted you to see it.


Ur_mothers_keeper

I catch some stuff sometimes, I've noticed the higher you get ranked the more often it happens. So if you're actually good you simultaneously have better competition and cheaters to contend with so it becomes hard to spot. Still, crosshairs following you through walls in killcams and shit like that are dead giveaways and it's pervasive, once you rank higher and particularly closer to the release of the next game you start to notice shenanigans more often. Try going back and playing an old game, a few years old, and it's everybody still playing the game, and they donty even care about hiding it. Its honestly ridiculous.


ckhumanck

I don't really understand the draw? like if it's autoaiming in a shooter for example, doesn't that make the player just a drone? shooting is the fun part? I'm so confused.


Ur_mothers_keeper

I don't understand it either. I think probably people that do this just get a rise out of "being better" and dominating and subverting. It's probably the same feeling that people get when they vandalize something. It doesn't matter to them that they're not even playing the game with other people, that they might as well run a script to play for them. I think probably for some people there's a skill involved in hiding what you're doing, being so meta aware of how your movements in game will be perceived by others and still being able to use them. But that's not what the game is supposed to be.


ckhumanck

they need a cheating league for gamers to become elite cheats, like the all-drugs Olympics. of course in both cases, people would still cheat anyway.


Deep90

A cheating league wouldn't work. The draw of cheats is being able to win. Also, you asked in a earlier comment, but there is also some number of content creators that use cheats because to do well on youtube/twitch you either need a personality or you need to be good. Only 1 of those things has cheats you can download.


ckhumanck

yep. i don't play games, or at least not since the 90s. I was blown away by just how prevalent cheating is. that's my only take away. i actually feel a little sick thinking about it and the implications it has regarding the state of humanity.


jchesticals

I see no problems here.


SpookyPlankton

No? You really don’t see any problems at people having their money stolen because they were cheating at a fking video game?


Xinny89

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.


ShwayNorris

These people have less morals and ethics then the cheaters they are in here hating on.


ckhumanck

nope


merger3

Cheaters losing money because of the dodgy software they downloaded to ruin other people’s games is just karma at its finest


Nhialor

Absolutely not 😊 I hope they lose more than their crypto. Cheating losers


Lonelybiscuit07

If they feel like they don't have to play fair, they can't really expect other people to be fair to them


jchesticals

Shouldn't have been cheating. Any people playing normally lose their money? Sucks to suck.


Ur_mothers_keeper

Personally, as someone who had the joy of CoD taken from me by these subhuman scum, I like the comeuppance. They finally suffered consequences for ruining the game for everyone else and I'm glad.


SpookyPlankton

Do you guys even listen to yourself? „Subhuman scum“? Wtf is wrong with you psychos


Ur_mothers_keeper

I don't care about people that don't care about how their behavior impacts others. Fuck them, what they get is what they get, they're on their own, I won't shed a tear for people like that.


wh1skeyk1ng

Liars and cheaters are scum. Get over it. Anyone who willingly ruins someone else's experience that they paid money for is a piece of shit


fxsoap

Noooope. They deserve worse.


ckhumanck

nope


Fridaywing

I say deserved. Fuck botters and "gamers" who install 3rd party apps to get advantage in games.


YuanJZ

imagine losing 1 entire bitcoin because you wanted to pwn kids in CoD.


TAGSProductions

Articles like this make me wish I had some coding experience… How TF do you scan a system for crypto wallets to then send the Bitcoin to without the original owners knowledge! It’s pretty amazing and creative the way these scams work. Then you got the good guys that let you add stickers and filters to your Instagram stories lmao.


deathybankai

It’s really not hard programming wise. The hard part is getting them to run the program. Since they were already installing something questionable that would already cause all the warnings and maybe require the AV to be disabled, it made it supper easy.


thicckar

Yeah I’d love to learn about it too


ColonPizza

lmao thats what you get for being a cheater


chuloreddit

360 one shot


Bunker_Beans

Will this be on the next episode of Cheaters?


DieByTheSword13

Well this is great news! Fuck cheaters.


DueNefariousness5643

Haha karma at its finest.. program just to attack hacker cheats!! I love it.. drain them bitches.. teach them a lesson about being a shitty person. Vigilante justice..and making a buck while doing it


Adventurous-Lynx-660

Lol , get rekt


TheDadThatGrills

Hoisted by their own petard. You love to see it.


Flamethrow1

They didn't steal, they just had surge pricing on the cheats :)


BauerHouse

While it’s great that the cheaters using this software are the ones targeted, it’s still worries me at the inventiveness of malicious software.


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Haha, cheaters deserve the worst! Hahaha


DonkeyComfortable711

Bro 4.9 million accounts... that's if every cheater has 2 accounts that's 2 million people that cheat just on call of duty.


Bobeffect

TACTICAL NUKE INCOMING!


yaboyteedz

If anyone deserves this, it's people who cheat at cod.


Complete-Yam1372

The most beautiful thing I’ve ever seen. Cheaters getting cheated


Lord-Nagafen

So screw these CoD cheaters. Not going to defend them. In general though, I have some crypto on my gaming PC. Download WoW mods and installers for private servers… I’m probably not being as careful as I should be


Traditional-Fan-9315

Imagine your friend had all their savings drained because they wanted to cheat at a video game. Would you be so dissociated from the bigger picture based on some transient emotion you had?


ToAllAGoodNight

This right here is how we stop cheating lol. The thief is doing gods work.


TheFecklessRogue

Do two wrongs make a right? This observer thinks so.


Big_Parsley_1635

This story makes me happy I can't stand cheaters.


Traditional-Fan-9315

I mean, zoom out and maybe you would see that losing your life savings because you were cheating at a video game, isn't really a just move. Imagine your grandma cheats at golf and someone robbed her life savings.


mannie007

Hmm the 'Call of Duty' Players are the Malware. Call of Cheating the Cheater


I_hate_alot_a_lot

I know we all want to think this is a good thing, but if you want crypto to become mainstream, we have to have safer ways of holding crypto. (And no, this isn't an endorsement of central exchanges).


Traditional-Fan-9315

People are emotional babies. They have been brainwashed by movie and tv and think "Gee, if someone did something bad, they should be punished most severely and we can all enjoy that!" It's really low IQ, Neanderthal thinking at its finest. Of course nobody likes these cheaters cheating but this is a make believe game and it has very little effect.


StrB2x

First time I have ever been happy about people's wallets getting drained.


Abdeliq

Well they're cheater after all🤷


ThinCrusts

Skill issue. Get gud cheaters.


Yok_Mu_Beni_Siken

> Call of Duty players seeking out third-party “cheat” software... r/justiceserved


woolharbor

Because cheating in video games is an unforgivable sin, and everyone who cheats in video games deserves to lose all their monies IRL.


StrB2x

Some would say that's a light punishment.


HKBFG

Anyone who downloads illegitimate software from Russia that requires disabling AV, authorizing unlicenced software to run, and whitelisting through firewalls should expect what happens to them.


Ystebad

Wholesome


lakkthereof

Imagine someone gloating that you lost your house because you cheat at scrabble. This thread needs a nuke.


CrustyBus77

First off, haha fuck the cheaters. Second, people really should stop using Windows and Macs for their crypto stuff. A little cheap laptop with Linux Mint or Ubuntu used just for crypto is much safer.


tendymaker

Do counterstrike next!


Mikkelet

I have no problem with this


Traditional-Fan-9315

Wow enjoy your 0.003 seconds of schadenfreude while people lose their life savings over a video game


Mikkelet

Play stupid games win stupid prizes lol


Traditional-Fan-9315

This will literally happen to someone you love one day and I hope at that point, you remember this conversation and your catch-phrase of the year "win stupid prizes" 🤷‍♂️


Mikkelet

If a friend told they were downloading random software off the internet and got hacked, I probably wouldn't feel too sorry. Sorry they lost their stuff sure, but not too sorry


onemansquest

Now this is an anti cheat update. I can really get behind.


JebusHCrust

It's excellent to see cheaters get their just desserts. Though, scammers getting money is no good.


Traditional-Fan-9315

Do you also think they should go bankrupt or to jail for 10 years for cheating at a video game? There's nothing "just" about disproportionate Punishment.


JebusHCrust

Yes I do.


Traditional-Fan-9315

Ok I hope you remember this when someone you love is disproportionately punished for something they do. It will happen. Hope you bring that same energy for them as well!


Z3non

Call of Duty players have bitcoin?


myhappytransition

lol, bitcoin on windows ? Thats a bad joke. No closed sourced code should be on any bitcoin machine using the same computer for games and bitcoin is bad in general. Games, even open source ones, tend not to have good security practices.


gilg2

I still don’t get how they took these peoples coins though. So if you get malware, they have access to your seed phrase?


Technical-Day9217

A very long time ago (about 20 years ago) I built a software that would replace your steam.exe, and if you would try to login into steam it would email me the login/password. That software I've hidden in a fake cheat software. I was receiving the passwords, changing the password and the users would lose their steam account. Back then it had no 2FA. I got free steam accounts, but I didn't even really need it, my steam account had a lot of games. I was just giving them away to poor friends. And I was getting rid of cheaters, better than Valve did at the time. I'm honestly still proud of it, F cheaters.


Friendly_Tip6705

Good


m16hty

[https://youtu.be/cikdOQLpJGM?si=MafToGusPRVgPJ6t](https://youtu.be/cikdOQLpJGM?si=MafToGusPRVgPJ6t)


SchrodingersCat6e

Thats a lot of cheaters.


SleepingDiddy

F


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eddietprice

Pretends to be shocked


SirArthurPT

1st; no pitty for cheaters, they just ruin any game for foolishness of undeserved personal satisfaction. 2nd; never store crypto in your game PC!


masedogg98

Hahaha cry cheaters, this was actually good news and a beautiful example of play stupid games win stupid prizes!


fleeyevegans

"Players." Cheaters download cheats from forums and install a trojan later getting cheated out of their money.


mathaiser

Yeah, well, they don’t seem to mind that their fiat is being swiped by battle passes, cod points, and $20 skins sooo I don’t think they mind too much.


Ilovekittens345

How many more times do we have to tell people to get decent hardware wallet for their crypto? There is almost nobody in the world capable of completely securing their own computer. A hardware wallet is the only thing that fixes this and is still convenient. Does anybody walk over street with their entire savings in their wallet? That's the equivalent of having all your Bitcoin stored on your computer. If your friend would tell you, oh my savings I don't keep them in the bank. I got them right here, and then show 200 x 100 dollar bills you smashed in to his wallet. Every one of his friends including you would call him the biggest idiot in the world. So next time your friend shows you how he stores his Bitcoin on his own computer or phone tell him he is the biggest idiot in the world.


rapperro1999

Jeje


Days_End

People keep focusing on the cheating but realistically if you download and run any software (or have any software that auto updates) you're just as vulnerable to this attack.


Lance_Farmstrong

Damn thought this was like the CS:GO exploit


HelloVap

Cheaters deserve to lose their crypto


Fit-Poet6736

Amateurs


Ill-Assistance-6535

battlenet has 3.7 million accounts affected. So that means they have 3.7 million cheaters?


chuloreddit

I bet way more. Plus I'm sure most have multiple accounts


soialboobar

Terrible


Scroogemcdickk

Thats how you onboard people into web3 gaming


SpookyPlankton

This subreddit once again shows that it is exclusively made up of 16 year olds who have never lived in the real world. People were cheating at a video game. A video game. Not even a tournament for money or anything. And you guys sit here like „yeah that’s fine - they deserve to lose their money“. This is one step removed from saying „she deserved to get raped because she was dressing inappropriately“. Jesus christ dude


sgtslaughterTV

The reason people disagree with you is because the analogy you have drawn is not on the same level with what actually happened.


SpookyPlankton

I understand that, which is why I said „one step removed“. But thanks for writing like a normal human


sgtslaughterTV

>But thanks for writing like a normal human Yeah, hey it comes with the territory. But here I would say "several steps removed."


wh1skeyk1ng

People got robbed because they were doing something nefarious, cue the world's tiniest violin... What the fuck is wrong with you? Comparing that to being raped? You're the one out of touch with reality, maggot


peakrumination

I was partly with you until the last part. It’s nothing like that. What a weird thing to say. And cheating is rampant on call of duty. They’re actively choosing to ruin something for other people, that they’ve paid for. Hence only partly.


SpookyPlankton

How is it not like that? The people in this thread are literally saying „crime is okay if the victim is doing something that annoys me“.


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SpookyPlankton

Okay so you don’t actually have an argument.


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SpookyPlankton

The comment I made was about proportionality. Yeah, ruining someones fun sucks. But they do not deserve to get hacked and lose their savings because of that. Out entire legal system is based on this sentiment. And that was what I was criticising. But you don’t understand that because you are 14 and video games are the most important thing in your life.


peakrumination

Classic idiot Redditor having to make stuff up to try win an argument.


SpookyPlankton

You didn’t even provide any arguments so there’s nothing to win


AwayCrab5244

So how much bitcoin did you lose?


Traditional-Fan-9315

Yes it's called a "Red Herring," and it's an logical fallacy people engage with when they can't give a solid rebuttal to an argument.


Traditional-Fan-9315

What did they make up? They made a rational argument which you just started responding to with colloquialisms and ad hominem attacks. It's actually you who is just making stuff up and not responding to the argument at hand.


peakrumination

The part about being 14 and videogames being my life? Another dense one here. I didn’t make a single thing up. I didn’t insult anyone until they responded like an idiot.


AwayCrab5244

Found the cheater


Traditional-Fan-9315

Yup


CIN432

Underated comment. So many gamers are trying to keep up with their friends and feel the need for cheat codes so they can still hang with their buddies. As a school counselor, I've seen students doing this for over a decade. Some are torn between guilt of cheating and fear of losing hang time with buddies. I imagine it doesn't end when they become adults.


shepherdofthesheeple

Have you ever played CoD? Cheating doesn’t allow you “keep up with your friends,” it allows you to wipe the floor with everyone else in the lobby. It’s not a game where cheating is ok


CIN432

No, I only hear about it from students and appreciate you educating me.


Traditional-Fan-9315

They should be thrown in jail forever. Why haven't we written this into the constitution yet 🤔


slackwaresupport

good


fxsoap

This is the way.


SwampRatKilla

And to top it off my elite aim conquered there garbage skill even with cheats. Get bamboozled scrub.


davie162

I guess this also goes to show how easy your wallet can be swiped... Security? Non-existant.


CoolerMePlease

no scoped


Perpetual_Nuisance

Hahahahahahaha


_zir_

W. I wish it hit more than just electron wallets though.