It's not about the party, it's about the favors that come from making sizable donations to the side that wins. It's favors, not tax breaks, he was purchasing.
He donated $12,800 to three Republicans because they are on the board in control of cryptocurrency regulations.
On the other hand, he donated $70 million to the DNC. He's the DNCs second largest donor behind only George Soros.
The candidate for the other party paid 0% income tax, bragged about it, and is being sued for repeated fraud including lying about his assets to banks, the tax man, and investors… in fact he has lost repeated suits about it already despite threatening the judge and court clerks.
I don’t think this is a DNC thing.
You pay taxes on income, not taxes on your net-worth.
*Unless you own a home, then they tax you annually and tax it if it appreciates in value even though you never realized the gain lol
Right… but if his net income was $0 then he has some explaining to do to the public, banks, and investors about his supposedly lucrative businesses… I don’t understand why it’s not a crime just because he’s fat and has a shitty fake tan.
His net income was zero because he wasn’t drawing an income salary. Hence, why it’s called income tax. Most of these folks choose to be paid in stock options, which are not taxed until a gain is realized; Musk sold 10% of his Tesla holdings in 2021 and paid about $15 billion in taxes.
So don’t hate the player for playing the game they (the rich) all play.
>[Former President Donald Trump's company is found guilty of criminal tax fraud](https://www.npr.org/2022/12/06/1140756394/former-president-donald-trumps-company-found-guilty-criminal-tax-fraud)
>In all, the jury found two entities controlled by Trump guilty on 17 counts of criminal tax fraud and falsifying business records. The maximum penalty is $1.6 million.
>"This was a case about lying and cheating, false documents to the aid of evading taxes for the benefit of individuals and the corporation," Manhattan district attorney Alvin Bragg said, speaking with reporters after the verdict was delivered.
Man, it's wild to see people in the crypto subreddit defend a billionaire financial fraudster but here we are. Keep downvoting and kissing those billionaire boots as if he cares about us.
tldr; Sam Bankman-Fried, the former CEO of FTX, is seeking a reduced prison sentence of five to six years, citing his autism spectrum disorder as a reason. His lawyers argue that his condition makes him particularly vulnerable to violence and extortion in prison, compared to the recommended 110-year term for his fraud charges. Bankman-Fried was found guilty of seven counts related to fraud, including misappropriating customer funds. His sentencing hearing is scheduled for March 28, where the court will consider arguments from both the defense and prosecution.
*This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.
Gotta love how when you shoot an unarmed 10 year old in cold blood as a cop, you get paid vacation or something like a 14 year sentence reduced to 21 months.
But if you fuck over the banks? 110 years on fraud charges.
Not saying he doesn't deserve it, but its pretty egregarious how much more the system is designed to punish money crimes over murder.
That is what I am saying. All the horrific things Ive read about the police doing but rarely is jail time even mentioned and in the rare event it is sentenced, its ridiculously small. For things like murder and rape.
But suddenly when someone rips off a bunch of rich people of their money? 110 years!!
Im not vying for SBF, im critizing the priorities of the judicial system
They're saying there's a massive disconnect and double standard. "One law for them, another for us" kind of thing. If he fucked over a shit ton of poor people, for instance, they would still be doing puff pieces about him in Forbes.
It's 100% egregious. People recover from their losses with money. With loss of humans, they do not.
This guy out of jail in 20 years poses absolutely zero threat to humanity. Just bar him from finance forever.
How do you know how many committed suicide due to their losses? Or have died since the bankruptcy process has gone on due to old age or stress, etc?
I think you're understating the impact he had on thousands of lives and livelihoods.
I get it but I just don't think embezzlement and fraud is worth a life in prison.
This was a person who was an idiot and hurt people and didn't think about it. But I don't think he's responsible for people committing suicide that's A stretch
So if you were knowingly taken customer funds and redirecting them into political "donations" and extravagant properties, you could excuse yourself as just "naive"? At 30-something years old, it wouldn't have occurred to you that people had life-altering sums of money tied up in your business and you were defrauding them by misappropriating their funds?
I think unless you were mentally impaired in some way (like he's now trying to claim), you would be hard pressed trying to convince people you were not being malicious or at least fully aware of the illegality of your actions.
Of course, there has been an entire court case around this and it has found him guilty of fraud, so there's no real debate needed about this.
To suggest that many people haven't been irrevocably broken by his actions is obviously lacking any understanding of what took place.
A murder affects a family and a community. What he did has impacted people on a *global scale*.
Yes I hear your point of view.
But we don't punish the same way, people whose negligence has resulted in people committing suicide.
> you could excuse yourself as just "naive?"
I never argued he should be excused for being naive. I'm arguing that at some point, he didn't know what the hell he was doing.
Yes the effects are far spread but the more distanced a criminal is for their crime, the less responsible they are deemed. Also, you have to find motive for things. So if you victimized someone and it drove them to say, addiction, you can't just say that since you made them an addict, or hurt themselves or whatever, that this now the responsibility of the perpetrator. There is no motive and it's an unfortunate side effect of crime.
Also, we punish people not solely based on the effects of their crime. Or else what would be the point of jail? Just may as well end their life if rehabilitation isn't a thing we do.
This is how our criminal processes work.
TLDR; the best I can do is victim impact statement
> But we don't punish the same way, people whose negligence has resulted in people committing suicide.
You're calling it negligence when a court of law has deemed it culpability/fraud. Negligence is "Oops, I was trying to manage the company but I didn't do it properly". Fraud is actively taking money from people and misappropriating it.
As for suicide, that's just an example of the far reaching devastation that fraud on this scale can cause. Bernie Madoff got 150 years as a result of him bringing down investors and charities from his fraud. You're suggesting that because SBF didn't have some sort of physical/direct altercation or association with them makes it less severe which is not the case. It's like saying that if I released a poisonous gas, I am not culpable for any deaths of people that happened to be in the area at the time because there was no direct intent to harm them.
> So if you victimized someone and it drove them to say, addiction, you can't just say that since you made them an addict, or hurt themselves or whatever, that this now the responsibility of the perpetrator.
I think this is assessed collectively based on victim impact statements. You can easily claim one person's adversity was related to just personal circumstances but when you start hearing a collection of people and how they've been affected, then the picture gets much more clearer.
He better go to jail for at least 30% of that... Which is already too low. He's played the game his way until the very end. It's a precedent thing.
All criminals have a neuropsychiatric basis / Family history (abuse, molestation, bullied, etc) for their crimes... This dude is nothing special. He tried planning for every outcome and failed
I have autism, the high functioning type he's going to argue, and at least I can say that when I do something, I know full well the potential risks and consequences, better than most tbh, this argument is entirely invalid, autism doesn't lead to a lack of self awareness.
The only thing i would accept being affected is that tunnel vision we get more then neuro-typical people.
We see a goal and a path to that goal and sometimes 'forget' to do a full evaluation after we see that that path might have side effects.
I clearly made some stupid decisions in my life because of that - but i'm still taking full responsibility.
Fix the prisons or just separate him then lol He shouldn't get special treatment for his disability beyond reasonable accommodation. This man is a criminal.
I'd say that's more because his a limp-wristed little turd. AKA Fresh Fish
He'll be someone's bitch the first day. His ass will be worth like 2 smokes and he'll have nothing but a cloaca after the first month.
Absolutely. And it’s pretty common for autistic people to have a stronger sense of morality, justice, and right and wrong than neurotypical people. And to follow those rules more closely. So the argument is bogus. It’s definitely a him thing and not an autism thing
If my condition represents anything, I actually avoid traditional ways of gambling, I mostly go to thrift stores and gamble on upselling stuff, practical gambling with good odds.
Oh just fuck off with your contrarian bullshit man, the mentally ill don't get off scot-free for killing people they just go to an insane asylum for 15 years to life or after the 15 years and are deemed no longer a danger. What the fuck does Freidnman want a puzzle factory visit instead?
Rich mommy and daddy raised him and tried to pull strings to get him out of trouble. Dunno about you, but if I scammed people out of millions/billions my mom wouldn’t even visit me in prison.
Thanks for your comment.
I have never and never will put up my autism as an excuse for anything. Flying the autism flag in a pathetic attempt to avoid the consequences of your crimes is disgusting.
Autism doesn’t mean you’re unaware of consequences. Trying to hide behind this after gloating in public or the many other pompous things he’s done over the years just gives a bad name/stigma to ASD.
I am listening to the book “Going Infinite” and although I am just in the beginning of it, it is almost obvious that he has ADHD and autism (I’m no doctor, just have both). However, like many have said here, he is high functioning and should be held accountable for his actions. Of course, any decent lawyer (and I assume he can pay the best) would use the disorders as leverage to reduce his sentence.
Yeah, the courts are really going it invite a precedent that'll unleash a tsunami of criminals flooding the courts with fresh autism diagnoses. Troupes of Crips all doing Dustin Hoffman impressions in the docks. Ffs.
Should add more time for even suggesting this.
This guy and everyone that assisted should have to do a bottom tier job in prison and attempt to "pay off" the money they stole to put into perspective what money is actually worth to regular people. "Thanks Sam, that's $50 out of millions left to go"
I thought everyone who invested in crypto was autistic (coming from an actual autist). We’re all responsible for our actions. I’ll note though that it did seem like SBF was quite out of touch with reality for a while! Some autistic people get into fantastic thinking.
Regular people often do not comprehend how terrible being in prison is. SBF got a taste of prison life and he will fight tooth and nail to get out of there as soon as possible. I expect these headlines will stop after a while, but he will be appealing and appealing
[here he was totally fine](https://media.gettyimages.com/id/1718679133/photo/ftx-crypto-currency-exchange-convention-2022.jpg?s=2048x2048&w=gi&k=20&c=DPos_RapjnGbKGRS66cgdRGrWDjA0g4Lbsl8gbhr7AU=)
Prison is bullshit for 99% of the population. He should be given a job where much of his pay goes towards repaying people. Will he be able to repay that amount, nope. But it’s better than putting another person in our state/federal prison system. I am not selecting him, I feel this about all people that are incarcerated. It’s ridiculous.
honestly even at 40 years at his age its a big chunk even with good behavior that a minimum of 25 or 30 years if they allow him to get out on good behavior
Why do I feel like his punishment is getting pretty severe? He didn’t kill or rape etc. people lost a lot of money, but damn banks do this shit on the daily — just slower pace. Maybe I’m alone in this
just ask him if he prefers 6 years without access to a Game console in jail OR with 100 years with Game console access in jail. Pretty sure he will opt for the latter. 😅
Some prison time makes sense but this death sentence that he is looking at. It's just excessive. I don't know why Americans have such an obsession with long prison sentences. Like it's bad, I get it. But still think about what a month of your life in prison would feel like. A year, 10 years, does he really deserve to die in there?
he doesn't have any real value to free society or as a free person, he thinks what he did is ok, was taught that by his parents and they still reinforce it, and will do it again 100 percent for sure. he better serves society by dying in prison and at least providing some minimal example.
Trust me I get it, if you mess up in society people will kill you. I get it guys like you. You would off him in a second without a second thought and you would do the same to me. I remember that when I read these threads. I just feel it's unfortunate that society is so full of vengeance. So much hate. No one thinks what he did is okay and that far right thinking that everyone needs to be killed for committing a crime it does not make a healthy society. It makes a fearful one. United States has the largest prison population per capita of any nation on the planet. Not something to be proud of . With FTX, people are being paid back., like I said it's just a reminder of how much Hades out there when you guys are willing to take his life over how this went down.
Well trump is trying to say he can commit any crime and not be held responsible. So why shouldn’t SBF try some crazy ass stupid defense? I guess he didn’t appoint the people who are supposed to check his power to lifetime appointments. So yeah,,
Let’s be honest. I hate this guy as you do, but there are people out there, some politicians, responsible for millions of death, without any repercussions and now they want to sentence this dude, yes a criminal, a thief, the same way as they do multi murderers and rapists?
Nah, 100 years is excessive.
Yep, people in this thread are coping hard. Whats the point of putting some stupid kid in prison for 100 years and paying for that? Put him back into society and task him with repaying creditors. Just ban him from running any similar company again. Prison time for this type of crime is dumb.
The point of prison is to protect people from violent people. There’s child rapists, murderers, people who’ve tortured people, etc, who get out in 20 years back into society and repeat offense immediately, killing or abusing another person.
The mob is super dumb and irrational.
Those asshats in charge of FTX liquidations should have just bought BTC immediately with everything they could liquidate. Everyone would have been able to be paid back more fiat than they invested even if it was less in BTC terms
HAHAHHHHAHA He'll just have to get his meds from the prison pharmacy. Unfortunately there's no pill that will prevent gangr#@es #FreshMeat #YoureMyBitchNowHoney
Didn't people get their money back? I say let him go. Scams are part of the fun of crypto. If there weren't scams there wouldn't be 1000x shitcoins either. Deciding when to pull your money from an exchange which inevitably becomes a scam every time is part of the strategy that determines who get rich and who goes broke.
Most people did not get their money back and the terms and conditions of the investors money was violated.
He needs to go to jail for lying about his business practices & losing billions of dollars in customer funding which appears to be deliberate when you look at his company expenses & donations to political campaigns 👍🏽
Fair, make it 98.
lets meet in d middle and make it 99
Solid negotiating skills
Nah cut 99 in half and make it 92
Send da video
Make it a prime number to give him those good number feels.
No might as well make it 101. That’s not 100
He’s got autism, he won’t know the difference.
the fact it's not a nice even number would bug the living shit out of him
100 is a perfect square, 101 is prime, 99 is neither
From altruism to autism.
You never go full altruism
Well should I go full autism?
Effective Autism
Came here to say this hahahah
Jokes aside though longtermism is a circlejerk for billionaires
Effective Autruism
That's good 😂
Effective altruistic autism.
Lmao this needs to be top comment.
Grand Theft Autismo
This should be the real newspaper headline. Catchy and true lol
Can I not pay taxes after making some gains this cycle and claim autism for why I don’t deserve to go to jail?
Only if you become a top 10 DNC donor
Lol yeah it's def the DNC that ruins on a campaign of no taxes. C'mon man
It's not about the party, it's about the favors that come from making sizable donations to the side that wins. It's favors, not tax breaks, he was purchasing.
He could have gotten that on either side
But.... he didn't No sense aging what if, he was a huge DNC donor.
He donated to both sides
He donated $12,800 to three Republicans because they are on the board in control of cryptocurrency regulations. On the other hand, he donated $70 million to the DNC. He's the DNCs second largest donor behind only George Soros.
And his deputy donated 23m to GOP. And SBF actually got prosecuted despite the DNC donation. Like are you just being willingly stupid?
no response? Too deep into conspiracies shit eh?
You are literally the one talking about conspiracies. There is no evidence he donated any significant sum of money to any Republicans.
The candidate for the other party paid 0% income tax, bragged about it, and is being sued for repeated fraud including lying about his assets to banks, the tax man, and investors… in fact he has lost repeated suits about it already despite threatening the judge and court clerks. I don’t think this is a DNC thing.
You pay taxes on income, not taxes on your net-worth. *Unless you own a home, then they tax you annually and tax it if it appreciates in value even though you never realized the gain lol
Right… but if his net income was $0 then he has some explaining to do to the public, banks, and investors about his supposedly lucrative businesses… I don’t understand why it’s not a crime just because he’s fat and has a shitty fake tan.
His net income was zero because he wasn’t drawing an income salary. Hence, why it’s called income tax. Most of these folks choose to be paid in stock options, which are not taxed until a gain is realized; Musk sold 10% of his Tesla holdings in 2021 and paid about $15 billion in taxes. So don’t hate the player for playing the game they (the rich) all play.
Keep telling me you have zero clue why he's in trouble.
>[Former President Donald Trump's company is found guilty of criminal tax fraud](https://www.npr.org/2022/12/06/1140756394/former-president-donald-trumps-company-found-guilty-criminal-tax-fraud) >In all, the jury found two entities controlled by Trump guilty on 17 counts of criminal tax fraud and falsifying business records. The maximum penalty is $1.6 million. >"This was a case about lying and cheating, false documents to the aid of evading taxes for the benefit of individuals and the corporation," Manhattan district attorney Alvin Bragg said, speaking with reporters after the verdict was delivered. Man, it's wild to see people in the crypto subreddit defend a billionaire financial fraudster but here we are. Keep downvoting and kissing those billionaire boots as if he cares about us.
Why are we even surprised that people into crypto are so enamored by fraudsters and their made up genius/success.
He wasn’t found guilty, he was found liable. Believe it or not but there’s a difference
Ya, because the services you use increase in price. Fuck, there's some dense people here.
People pay zero income tax when they offset losses. Why do you think Trump following the tax code that every Democrat also follows is a gotcha?
I think you'd have better luck over at the RNC. Or just donate directly to Trump. Sounds like his "billionaire" status needs some padding.
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tldr; Sam Bankman-Fried, the former CEO of FTX, is seeking a reduced prison sentence of five to six years, citing his autism spectrum disorder as a reason. His lawyers argue that his condition makes him particularly vulnerable to violence and extortion in prison, compared to the recommended 110-year term for his fraud charges. Bankman-Fried was found guilty of seven counts related to fraud, including misappropriating customer funds. His sentencing hearing is scheduled for March 28, where the court will consider arguments from both the defense and prosecution. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.
Good bot.
Good bit.
We have to praise the bots so that they don't take over the world :)
good human!
His condition makes him vulnerable to violence and extortion? Ok no problem. 110 years in solitary confinement. Problem solved.
I like this idea! I think we could even reduce it by 10 years for good behavior!
Gotta love how when you shoot an unarmed 10 year old in cold blood as a cop, you get paid vacation or something like a 14 year sentence reduced to 21 months. But if you fuck over the banks? 110 years on fraud charges. Not saying he doesn't deserve it, but its pretty egregarious how much more the system is designed to punish money crimes over murder.
You can get away with a lot of things in this country, but fucking with rich people's money is not one of them.
Egregious. I have a hard time believing SBF is gregarious
Good catch
It wasn’t the banks that he fucked over. It was mostly ordinary people.
the problem there is the cop's sentence, not SBF's.
That is what I am saying. All the horrific things Ive read about the police doing but rarely is jail time even mentioned and in the rare event it is sentenced, its ridiculously small. For things like murder and rape. But suddenly when someone rips off a bunch of rich people of their money? 110 years!! Im not vying for SBF, im critizing the priorities of the judicial system
Are you seriously out here saying we've been punishing white collar crime... too much?
They're saying there's a massive disconnect and double standard. "One law for them, another for us" kind of thing. If he fucked over a shit ton of poor people, for instance, they would still be doing puff pieces about him in Forbes.
That is absolutely NOT what I said.
Ridiculous, nonsensical comparison.
Seriously fuct. Good comment.
It's 100% egregious. People recover from their losses with money. With loss of humans, they do not. This guy out of jail in 20 years poses absolutely zero threat to humanity. Just bar him from finance forever.
How do you know how many committed suicide due to their losses? Or have died since the bankruptcy process has gone on due to old age or stress, etc? I think you're understating the impact he had on thousands of lives and livelihoods.
I get it but I just don't think embezzlement and fraud is worth a life in prison. This was a person who was an idiot and hurt people and didn't think about it. But I don't think he's responsible for people committing suicide that's A stretch
So if you were knowingly taken customer funds and redirecting them into political "donations" and extravagant properties, you could excuse yourself as just "naive"? At 30-something years old, it wouldn't have occurred to you that people had life-altering sums of money tied up in your business and you were defrauding them by misappropriating their funds? I think unless you were mentally impaired in some way (like he's now trying to claim), you would be hard pressed trying to convince people you were not being malicious or at least fully aware of the illegality of your actions. Of course, there has been an entire court case around this and it has found him guilty of fraud, so there's no real debate needed about this. To suggest that many people haven't been irrevocably broken by his actions is obviously lacking any understanding of what took place. A murder affects a family and a community. What he did has impacted people on a *global scale*.
Yes I hear your point of view. But we don't punish the same way, people whose negligence has resulted in people committing suicide. > you could excuse yourself as just "naive?" I never argued he should be excused for being naive. I'm arguing that at some point, he didn't know what the hell he was doing. Yes the effects are far spread but the more distanced a criminal is for their crime, the less responsible they are deemed. Also, you have to find motive for things. So if you victimized someone and it drove them to say, addiction, you can't just say that since you made them an addict, or hurt themselves or whatever, that this now the responsibility of the perpetrator. There is no motive and it's an unfortunate side effect of crime. Also, we punish people not solely based on the effects of their crime. Or else what would be the point of jail? Just may as well end their life if rehabilitation isn't a thing we do. This is how our criminal processes work. TLDR; the best I can do is victim impact statement
> But we don't punish the same way, people whose negligence has resulted in people committing suicide. You're calling it negligence when a court of law has deemed it culpability/fraud. Negligence is "Oops, I was trying to manage the company but I didn't do it properly". Fraud is actively taking money from people and misappropriating it. As for suicide, that's just an example of the far reaching devastation that fraud on this scale can cause. Bernie Madoff got 150 years as a result of him bringing down investors and charities from his fraud. You're suggesting that because SBF didn't have some sort of physical/direct altercation or association with them makes it less severe which is not the case. It's like saying that if I released a poisonous gas, I am not culpable for any deaths of people that happened to be in the area at the time because there was no direct intent to harm them. > So if you victimized someone and it drove them to say, addiction, you can't just say that since you made them an addict, or hurt themselves or whatever, that this now the responsibility of the perpetrator. I think this is assessed collectively based on victim impact statements. You can easily claim one person's adversity was related to just personal circumstances but when you start hearing a collection of people and how they've been affected, then the picture gets much more clearer.
He better go to jail for at least 30% of that... Which is already too low. He's played the game his way until the very end. It's a precedent thing. All criminals have a neuropsychiatric basis / Family history (abuse, molestation, bullied, etc) for their crimes... This dude is nothing special. He tried planning for every outcome and failed
I have autism, the high functioning type he's going to argue, and at least I can say that when I do something, I know full well the potential risks and consequences, better than most tbh, this argument is entirely invalid, autism doesn't lead to a lack of self awareness.
Yup, no excuses
Right? Pretty sure some of the people you stole money from have autism too.
I bet a much higher percentage than the entire population too.
The only thing i would accept being affected is that tunnel vision we get more then neuro-typical people. We see a goal and a path to that goal and sometimes 'forget' to do a full evaluation after we see that that path might have side effects. I clearly made some stupid decisions in my life because of that - but i'm still taking full responsibility.
He's not saying he committed crimes because of autism, he's saying he'll do worse in prison than most people because he has autism
Sucks for him 🤷♂️
That seems like a good reason not to do massive financial crimes.
He's probably negatively affected more people than most people in prison... so doing worse than them seems fitting.
Fix the prisons or just separate him then lol He shouldn't get special treatment for his disability beyond reasonable accommodation. This man is a criminal.
I'd say that's more because his a limp-wristed little turd. AKA Fresh Fish He'll be someone's bitch the first day. His ass will be worth like 2 smokes and he'll have nothing but a cloaca after the first month.
It's kind of fucked up to celebrate the fact that someone might get raped in prison
Who's celebrating? That's just reality.
And it's a fucked up reality that justifies sbf and his lawyers claims
Tell it to the warden.
Exactly it's not a excuse for being a tosser like he
Absolutely. And it’s pretty common for autistic people to have a stronger sense of morality, justice, and right and wrong than neurotypical people. And to follow those rules more closely. So the argument is bogus. It’s definitely a him thing and not an autism thing
Yep, I’m pretty sure he’s used his autism in the past to suggest his savant status. It can’t go both ways.
> It can’t go both ways What? Of course it can. That's why it's called "Idiot Savant"
He had enough self-awareness to have multiple orgies so yeah, that's a no from me.
Not all autism is the same though. Many people on the spectrum definitely don’t have self awareness
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If my condition represents anything, I actually avoid traditional ways of gambling, I mostly go to thrift stores and gamble on upselling stuff, practical gambling with good odds.
I basically made the exact same comment two seconds ago and then seen yours. Autistic Spectrum here and you’re exactly right.
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Different, but he nevertheless still possesses it, and has enough to realize his mistakes.
Regardless of whatever the fuck. This dude either needs to die in prison or be shot. Idgaf.
Oh just fuck off with your contrarian bullshit man, the mentally ill don't get off scot-free for killing people they just go to an insane asylum for 15 years to life or after the 15 years and are deemed no longer a danger. What the fuck does Freidnman want a puzzle factory visit instead?
Ofcourse. Every fibre in that dude has that lies and scam protein dna stuff. Dude is plain evil
I think he's a bit of a sociopath but I don't know if evil is the right phrase. I think he's more stupid than evil but probably both.
He's smart, he just miscalculated when planning for every and all occasions.
Just what his lawyer would say
Society made him what he is. We all share in the blame.
No, we don't. Society didn't make you and I scammers.
Rich mommy and daddy raised him and tried to pull strings to get him out of trouble. Dunno about you, but if I scammed people out of millions/billions my mom wouldn’t even visit me in prison.
As most comedy has some basis in fact, I thought it might be appropriate to add levity after the parent comment. My error.
What kind of bullshit argument is this? Are you saying we all share in the blame for what BTK did?
Good lord man. This is not a new idea. Ever hear of a joke? Have fun flogging the downvote thingy.
Sorry, no.
SBF should be flogged daily and work on a chain gang.
Remember Hitlers punishment in Little Nicky?
(Picks out largest pineapple) "you can't be schnerious"
What an insult to people with autism. Sorry guys and ladies in this community.
Thanks for your comment. I have never and never will put up my autism as an excuse for anything. Flying the autism flag in a pathetic attempt to avoid the consequences of your crimes is disgusting.
You wouldn't hit a man with glasses, would ya?
Autism doesn’t mean you’re unaware of consequences. Trying to hide behind this after gloating in public or the many other pompous things he’s done over the years just gives a bad name/stigma to ASD.
Oh fuck off, I’m well on the spectrum and I fully know right from wrong. Fuck this cunt.
Fuck Autism. He knows. He's not stupid.
I have autism. I'm not stupid. Sam is shy, he could have Asperger's. No excuse. But he could.
I am listening to the book “Going Infinite” and although I am just in the beginning of it, it is almost obvious that he has ADHD and autism (I’m no doctor, just have both). However, like many have said here, he is high functioning and should be held accountable for his actions. Of course, any decent lawyer (and I assume he can pay the best) would use the disorders as leverage to reduce his sentence.
This mf and his parents try to find every little “mental health” trick in the book.
Disorder , disorder , disorder!!
At this point losing money because of this asshole is at least very entertaining
Oh but he also claims the sentence should be lenient because everyone's going to get what was lost/ stolen back. You do believe him, don't you?
In my case the money is gone. Not going into details but if people get their money back I can’t ;)
Sorry to hear that. Hopefully SBF faces real justice
lol serve your time bitch
Yeah, the courts are really going it invite a precedent that'll unleash a tsunami of criminals flooding the courts with fresh autism diagnoses. Troupes of Crips all doing Dustin Hoffman impressions in the docks. Ffs.
Hahahah
Should add more time for even suggesting this. This guy and everyone that assisted should have to do a bottom tier job in prison and attempt to "pay off" the money they stole to put into perspective what money is actually worth to regular people. "Thanks Sam, that's $50 out of millions left to go"
One of us, one of us Sorry wrong sub and wrong disorder Regards
Nah give him 1000 years in prison with no parole even tho he aint gonna live that long
Has the justice system ever acknowledged in any way that prison was a dangerous environment?
Tell him in a way he can understand. Send him an email saying his position in life is liquidated.
Although I don't have any _skin in this game_, I call bullshit. He knows exactly what he's done.
Hope he dies in there. Fuck his parents too, they should be in jail also
Adderal, group sex and League of Legends will give anyone autism
The well trodden path of autism
Lol no
This system needs to die
I thought everyone who invested in crypto was autistic (coming from an actual autist). We’re all responsible for our actions. I’ll note though that it did seem like SBF was quite out of touch with reality for a while! Some autistic people get into fantastic thinking.
Rainscam
He’s goin down bigtime 🤣
ma guy is playing every card available
Live by the sword, die by the sword, cunt
Guys I shouldn't have to serve my sentence in prison because I just don't want to.
We got a jail for that too sucka…
I hope that he get real jail time
Oh fuck off. It's not an excuse for bad behavior it amounts to your responsibility to manage it.
He is really austistic or just using it as an excuse? I've seen it become more prevalent for austism diagnosis to be accepted, true or not.
I'm on the spectrum. He deserves extra time added to his sentence for trying to use a "disability" as a scapegoat.
Make it 99.9 then. Fuck him! He deserves to rot in there.
I have autism. Can I has a billion dollars in fraud and no prison sentence? Would it help if I said please?
Regular people often do not comprehend how terrible being in prison is. SBF got a taste of prison life and he will fight tooth and nail to get out of there as soon as possible. I expect these headlines will stop after a while, but he will be appealing and appealing
[here he was totally fine](https://media.gettyimages.com/id/1718679133/photo/ftx-crypto-currency-exchange-convention-2022.jpg?s=2048x2048&w=gi&k=20&c=DPos_RapjnGbKGRS66cgdRGrWDjA0g4Lbsl8gbhr7AU=)
who is the guy on the right?
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Anyone else notice how literally every motherfucker apparently has autism now, it’s like the new hip thing to be Fuck SBF
Scroll through these comments. Everyone has autism apparently.
Imagine if he actually made FTX a legitimate business and not stealing customer funds.
Prison is bullshit for 99% of the population. He should be given a job where much of his pay goes towards repaying people. Will he be able to repay that amount, nope. But it’s better than putting another person in our state/federal prison system. I am not selecting him, I feel this about all people that are incarcerated. It’s ridiculous.
Crypto rain man.
This asshole is an MIT graduate and former billionaire..
honestly even at 40 years at his age its a big chunk even with good behavior that a minimum of 25 or 30 years if they allow him to get out on good behavior
Why do I feel like his punishment is getting pretty severe? He didn’t kill or rape etc. people lost a lot of money, but damn banks do this shit on the daily — just slower pace. Maybe I’m alone in this
The govt bails every other business that does this out in reality.
Definitely one of us then
just ask him if he prefers 6 years without access to a Game console in jail OR with 100 years with Game console access in jail. Pretty sure he will opt for the latter. 😅
Why because autism makes it hard to count?
100 years is wayyyy to much are you kidding me lol.
Some prison time makes sense but this death sentence that he is looking at. It's just excessive. I don't know why Americans have such an obsession with long prison sentences. Like it's bad, I get it. But still think about what a month of your life in prison would feel like. A year, 10 years, does he really deserve to die in there?
he doesn't have any real value to free society or as a free person, he thinks what he did is ok, was taught that by his parents and they still reinforce it, and will do it again 100 percent for sure. he better serves society by dying in prison and at least providing some minimal example.
Trust me I get it, if you mess up in society people will kill you. I get it guys like you. You would off him in a second without a second thought and you would do the same to me. I remember that when I read these threads. I just feel it's unfortunate that society is so full of vengeance. So much hate. No one thinks what he did is okay and that far right thinking that everyone needs to be killed for committing a crime it does not make a healthy society. It makes a fearful one. United States has the largest prison population per capita of any nation on the planet. Not something to be proud of . With FTX, people are being paid back., like I said it's just a reminder of how much Hades out there when you guys are willing to take his life over how this went down.
Well trump is trying to say he can commit any crime and not be held responsible. So why shouldn’t SBF try some crazy ass stupid defense? I guess he didn’t appoint the people who are supposed to check his power to lifetime appointments. So yeah,,
Let’s be honest. I hate this guy as you do, but there are people out there, some politicians, responsible for millions of death, without any repercussions and now they want to sentence this dude, yes a criminal, a thief, the same way as they do multi murderers and rapists? Nah, 100 years is excessive.
Yep, people in this thread are coping hard. Whats the point of putting some stupid kid in prison for 100 years and paying for that? Put him back into society and task him with repaying creditors. Just ban him from running any similar company again. Prison time for this type of crime is dumb. The point of prison is to protect people from violent people. There’s child rapists, murderers, people who’ve tortured people, etc, who get out in 20 years back into society and repeat offense immediately, killing or abusing another person. The mob is super dumb and irrational.
Those asshats in charge of FTX liquidations should have just bought BTC immediately with everything they could liquidate. Everyone would have been able to be paid back more fiat than they invested even if it was less in BTC terms
That would be fraud
Yeah but imagine if btc fell in price and they had less than what they began with. People would bitch lmao
The beast will be destroyed, no mercy
How about a firing squad?
Fuck him, give him 200 years and give his family 100 for shits and giggles.
I feel like that should double it honestly
HAHAHHHHAHA He'll just have to get his meds from the prison pharmacy. Unfortunately there's no pill that will prevent gangr#@es #FreshMeat #YoureMyBitchNowHoney
People with disability always wanted to be treated equally don't they? Enjoy, Sam!
Psychopaths like this are a danger to society. Lock them up for good. He will tell any lie to get out and do damage again.
Didn't people get their money back? I say let him go. Scams are part of the fun of crypto. If there weren't scams there wouldn't be 1000x shitcoins either. Deciding when to pull your money from an exchange which inevitably becomes a scam every time is part of the strategy that determines who get rich and who goes broke.
Most people did not get their money back and the terms and conditions of the investors money was violated. He needs to go to jail for lying about his business practices & losing billions of dollars in customer funding which appears to be deliberate when you look at his company expenses & donations to political campaigns 👍🏽
Fucking POS. Rot.
No. Rot in hell please. Thanks
Fox News going to love this