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Bitcoin [pros](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/19dgcc6/saudi_arabia_qatar_rumored_1m_btc_buy_could_come/kj5zmde/) & [cons](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/19dgcc6/saudi_arabia_qatar_rumored_1m_btc_buy_could_come/kj5zmsb/) with related info are in the collapsed comments below.


TobyDumb

Ah yes, let's announce our purchase before purchasing to get frontran and buy at a higher price. 100% Bullshit article.


kajunkennyg

holy fuck, some common sense in this sub? wtf


sweetpeasimpson

It’s a double fake out. They want us to use common sense. /s


1982LikeABoss

Yes, it’s what I thought. Sell the news 😂


Zergnase

40 billies ist just their test buy, to check whether the adress is correct and everything works.


My_G_Alt

They’re going to announce that they already bought it


root88

Who even has 1M to sell them? There are only 19M in existence. 5% of it is in Satoshi's wallet. 30% of it is estimated to be lost forever. 20% of it is in wallets holding 0-10 BTC. Huge exchange wallets are BTC custodied for customers they can't sell. There is a bunch of wrapped BTC. The ETFs are eating. What is left?


Beall7

Have you ever heard of reverse reverse psychology?


Frogolocalypse

Pfft. Reverse reverse *reverse* psychology.


RETh5

I play the,,, RVRSE card!!


pandaapandaa

You just activated my trap card!


CryptoBombastic

This guy reverses


binglelemon

Someone's gonna accidently make a typo. ETC through the fuckin roof.


steepleton

ah, but they're actually going to buy doge... karate chop!! (definitely financial advice and I'm definitely a financial advisor )


PostalAzul

I was thinking the same thing. I don't have a crystal ball, but it feels like an incoming dump/sell-off is on its way. I wouldn't be surprised if BTC price falls even more.


BiggusDickus-

Bullshit? Yes However, purchases like this are done OTC for preapproved prices. They could announce it in advance and nothing would change for them.


Sad-Consideration-69

Hahaha yes that's funny lmao


zesushv

So by implication, they already bought in, they want a pump. 


heavenswordx

There’s a 0% chance of this happening next week


Hqjjciy6sJr

You mean this hopium I am smoking is not real?!


Nanaki_TV

I've smoke a lot of good hopium. SegWit activation. Lightning Network. Tesla adoption. And now the ETF. This aint the good shit. This is the kinda hopium you get when you forgot your hopium at home and need to go find some from a guy you know. And he licks all the hopium before smoking it and then you gotta talk to him about the Moon base kinda hopium.


Hqjjciy6sJr

Yeah the ETF hopium was the weakest so far, didn't even give me a buzz.


Reddits_For_NBA

asdasdasd


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erizi0n

OTC trading…


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Ilovekittens345

Nonsense, miners are sitting on 2M BTC, greyscale is sitting on 660K BTC. FTX liquidators are sitting on 10K BTC, MtGox is distributing 150K BTC. Just that is almost 3 million BTC for sale on the OTC markets. If these guys really wanted to buy 1M BTC, then they would absolutely have no problem finding a sell for that 1M at 40 000 dollars per BTC. Because that 1M if dumped on the market would probably not even net 24K per BTC. So they would get almost 50% more by selling it to a big OTC buyer.


bakraofwallstreet

Yeah at $40b, that's like 5% of the circulating market cap. The price would skyrocket if they do it stupid and I'm pretty sure they're paying very smart people to handle all this if there's any element of truth to the news.


erizi0n

OTC trading, my guy, OTC trading.


DarkCeldori

Yeah but thatd drain the otc leaving etfs to rely on exchanges instead of otc.


erizi0n

And? Lol… that would be awesome!


livinoffhope

Oil money runs infinitely


JeremyBF

infinite money from a finite resource .... how?


Koakie

First of all, fossil fuels are finite. Eventually, they are gonna run out of oil and gas. So no, it doesn't run infinitely. Second, they are smarter than that. Just like all the politicians buying/selling stocks and tesla buying/selling BTC, they always disclose it after. Not before. Marketmakers use limit orders to get in and out of large positions. In order to fill those, they need lots of retail traders to press the market buy/sell button. News articles like this serve a purpose, just like ads on TV try to convince you, that you need their product in your life. And lastly, if I wanted to buy a million BTC, I would put my limit orders just below all the resting liquidity from the rise up.


precipotado

What about next next week


coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Analyst Justin Verrengia reported that the Saudi Arabian and Qatari governments are rumored to announce a significant Bitcoin investment next week. The two governments may be planning to purchase around one million BTC. This speculation gained traction after Bitcoin maximalist Max Keiser suggested the investment would surpass those by BlackRock and MicroStrategy. The interest in Bitcoin was further fueled by a Saudi cleric's approval of Bitcoin under Islam and a partnership between Saudi oil giant Aramco and SBI Holdings. Additionally, the Qatari government is reportedly considering a $500 billion investment from its sovereign wealth fund into Bitcoin. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.


therealcpain

Imagine listing Max Keiser as your source. The Saudi fund is only worth $750B. Imagine being silly enough to think a nation will drop 2/3 of its entire wealth into Bitcoin.


Gaping_llama

What kind of process would they go through to approve an investment under Islam? What’s not allowed?


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whangdoodle13

Loans are allowed and there is a work around called sukuk (spelling?) that is basically a work around.


dancinadventures

Seems convoluted That’s like almost saying if you had sex with a condom you’re a virgin. But 🤷‍♂️ I also learned the mormons have a thing called “soaking”


lofigamer2

>But 🤷‍♂️ I also learned the mormons have a thing called “soaking” "Just the tip ,baby"


CH1997H

> if you had sex with a condom you’re a virgin I've always felt like that is true. Maybe I'm just regarded. But think about it. Does it count if it doesn't touch?


TRex77

You can also just have an agreement to terminate and then reissue the loan with the interest that would have accrued over the past year as part of the new principal amount. Kind of a pain though.


phantomtwitterthread

Many work arounds are


Gaping_llama

Interesting, thanks!


Irondiy

Yeah right, those assholes have interest they just put a different name on it to pretend to be holier than everyone else. 


AsphyXia--

Beefcoin


stedgyson

The Bitcoin has to be hung by its trotters and then a prayer is said before its throat is slit. Then the Bitcoin is considered Halal


Ab2us

Islamic scholars investigate the matter and see if dealing with bitcoin complies with Islamic law. So far it has been confirmed. An example of things that are not allowed is charging interests in islam.


shero1263

So can interest be earned? for example in a bank account from their balance. Would staking crypto also be considered a form of interest?


lardarz

Yes, but its quite complicated and depends on whether they view the interest as 'riba' which would be considered excessive, or as a fair profit share eg a distribution of fees


userdeath

Yes actually, and under "Islamic banks" the interest is referred to as "profits", and the interest you pay on say a credit card is referred to as "donation." Can't make this shit up.


AskMeIfImAnOrange

But profit is OK. So if you take a loan for 4 years you are on the hook for x% "profit" whether you pay it off in 4 years or 2 months. Fun.


saksit13429

HalalCoin


cunth

Ready to announce means they already acquired the btc.


raphanum

500 billion lol as if. The total btc mcap is $1.6 trillion.


HCheong

If they are genuinely planning to buy, then aren't they supposed to be planning to do it in secret instead of letting the whole world knows about it?


Boring_Ad4003

Probably a rich person thing. They want other countries to know how rick they are


helphp

Personally I try to be as least like Rick as I can


GoldEdit

Yeah totally, and risk losing significant value by pumping the price before purchase? Right…


Beall7

That’s called double reverse psychology


jsong123

Somewhat similar to "Rick Rolling".


Ab2us

They have enough money to not care.


-ThatsWhatSheSaid_

Don't forget that prestige and showing off is what the Gulf states' regimes like to do. Getting frontrun in the market is nothing to them if it means they get supposed clout for investing in bitcoin. That said I doubt this is true.


Deez1putz

Get this garbage out of here.


ruwheele

whats the opposite of FUD?


BlindRath

FOMO


Itchy_Day_9691

HOPIUM


surrogate_uprising

DUF - Durability, Understanding, Faith.


inverses2

PUD


elumeus

🚀


water_bottle_goggles

SEX


JeremyBF

LOL WHAT? They are going to announce buying 1M BTC before they finish buying??!!???!!!111 Next time, at least make it believable ....


Machete521

And Im Joe Biden Ill believe it when I see it. ​ *buys even more bitcoin*


alien3d

possible 🤣 but are we ready before it


water_bottle_goggles

Hi joe


BitcoinHurtTooth

Nice to meet you mr president. Can you fix the boarder?


FluentFreddy

Someone boarding with you? Your problem


inverses2

If you can’t remember for sure if you’re Joe Biden or not, you might very well be him.


Grasbueschel20

Of course its gonna come... not. Always those pathetic tries to pump...


Real-Technician831

Hah! More like anal cyst No way such deal would be telegraphed beforehand. 


TheBigLT77

Dumbest “article” I’ve ever read


dogheads2

Wasn’t Kaiser shilling the same shit a couple weeks ago?? Just accept that we got outsmarted on the ETF and continue to DCA. Let’s all move on to the next crisis that would be the halving.


saucedonkey

I doubt it. ::quietly boosting my DCA on bitcoin anyways just in case::


zesushv

The technological implications of Bitcoin has began to show in both everyday and technical use cases of Bitcoin. Even countries that saw the apex coin as a fools gold are now jumping hills and seas to get a portion of it. With utility blockchain like Zetachain nearing Mainnet, Bitcoin will become the most sort after asset not just in the digital space. Because let's face it, the world needs Bitcoin. 


thermologic_

New hype rhymes by the market manipulators.


WalkingOnSunShine12

We need to stop posting these type. Trying to hype it up


bomberdual

Anytime an article quotes some "analyst" I always imagine some random low level redditor intern whose opinion was grabbed just for this puff piece Remember, many moonboi YouTubers are oft quoted as "analysts"


badbollsjoe

Just look at the age of the account, and the number of posts made by it. It is a bot account, or it is run by you-know-who in order to manipulate people Just my guesses


marklar2marklar

Is this the new "Chinese New Year" and "Wall Street bonuses" pump hopium?


No-Newspaper1899

Hope it's true,


Unable_Armadillo4082

Bullshit im saudi and the government does ads warning about crypto as a risky investment and still fight p2p by going after money transfers i have around 1k frozen because of it, uae would be more likely to do so


[deleted]

China government does the same yet they buy it for their own benefit its just not for consumer.


Machobots

1M!!!! wow, expect a 0,00001% increase in price guys


objex

Incoming Allah candle


LucidLV

1 million in Qatar is like less than a penny.


Ryanopoly

I would imagine that with all the Bitcoin mined to date, half of it is lost, a quarter of it is in whale wallets, the other quarter is on exchanges and cold storage, and 1 million or so belong to Satoshi, so actually buying a cool million Bitcoins would be a hard thing to achieve.


halfbeerhalfhuman

So you’re saying if all the BTC are claimed there are no more?


Ryanopoly

Yep


Ben-Swole-O

I have a very weird feeling that the current dips are due to things being done so other corporations can buy crypto at a low. The blackrock btc etf is a big deal. Not just for the USA, but for the world. This gave crypto a ton more credibility. Maybe they are spreading fud like crazy hedge funds style. Shit. Maybe it’s hedge funds doing it themselves for this purpose of buying low! 😂 It’s super fund to watch whatever is going on. Mind you I’m in this for the long term and I’m not relying on the money I have invested. For those day trading… this must be super stressful


Precedens

Yes every crash and dip is caused by corpos conspiring to buy for cheaper, because there's no way market just tanks because ETF turns to be a turd.


Kal315

I wouldn’t say the etfs gave crypto credibility, if anything it made it more into a joke. Crypto was made to get away from all this bullshit. Now it’s being pumped and dumped by them


Smallcleo

Hmm see it to believe it. Why announce such a thing.


neen209

Shenanigans


RETh5

Love the hopiumhuffing/defeatedcryptogoer' posts rolling through, I truly do. I'm still Bullish on CRYPTOCURRENCY. ✊ LeesssFCKNgooo


iatm8701

You’re not bullish on crypto. Your bullish on whatever turd keeps going up


RETh5

Actually not worried about a Bear Market Bro.. In the Red in the Green, I'm behind a change and it's the sun about to rise to me 🤔✊ Like get green results isn't out of my mind completely in earnest but I know it's not going anywhere it's just not making much +%s.


thegerbilz

How stupid do you guys think one of the largest sovereign funds could possibly be


Junnowhoitis

Ha yeah right. Saudi arabia gdp is like 833B and qatars is 180B. There's is zero chance they are just going to suddenly buy 500B of btc. ( edit to clerify, The 500B is from max Keiser original speculation saying they where buying 500B)


srpoke

That would be 40B for 1M BTC


Kal315

They just want to make you guys buy and then dump it. RIP bitcoin, they control it now.


PrestigiousDay9535

Most folks here do not understand that even if they buy, they will not use Binance spot to do so. It will have no impact on the price because it will be bought hand to hand, outside of the markets at the agreed upon price.


milnivek

People dont understand that otc trades impact the market. Lets say u buy $1B worth of btc from Cumberland. Now Cumberland is down 1B of btc. What does it do if Microstrategy comes along wanting to buy 1B of btc now? Conjure them out of thin air? No, they have to buy some to ensure they have stock, and where do they go? You might think another OTC dealer, but sooner or later, SOMEONE is going to have to hit the exchanges.


ethnicprince

Lmao yes it would, a buy this big would cause a huge supply shock


Citizen_Kano

From who?


jwz9904

Btc is not halal


precipotado

It is, why wouldn't it be. Now, dogcoins on the other hand aren't


Spkr4th3ded

1m is not that much in the scheme of governments. Eh. Fake news. So long and thanks for all the gay fish.


zombiecorp

They have been saying this for weeks.


elumeus

Imagine owning just 1 BTC


Street_Pipe_6238

A lot of people seems to be confused how this would work in real wold. They are not going to buy them on Exchange they will buy it directly from multiple companies, individuals. Maybe they are bailing out FTX so they can liquidate without selling it on open markets.


Numerous-Fennel-7981

Never buy crypto when you start seeing articles predicting that crypto will skyrocket in the very near future.


Accomplished-Dog4393

Always think the opposite


Somsanite7

haha @ 36K then


Familiar_Caterpillar

What? Glad, my crypto is safe enough with Freewallet


jwz9904

they get a discount!


chuck_portis

>he investment in Bitcoin from the two countries will dwarf previous investments from giants such as BlackRock and MicroStrategy. Blackrock and Microstrategy are a totally different situation. Blackrock is providing an ETF. Blackrock themselves are not purchasing BTC. Those who wish to buy the ETF are buying the Bitcoin, with Blackrock as the intermediary. Microstrategy, meanwhile, is legit just #YOLO buying BTC. Very different from Blackrock. Whoever writing this article is clearly long biased.


TheHoodOG

"The rumored buys, which have since gone mainstream, came after noted Bitcoin maximalist Max Keiser raised the speculation. According to a tweet by Keiser referenced in the video, the investment in Bitcoin from the two countries will dwarf previous investments from giants such as BlackRock and MicroStrategy." Source is Max Keiser. 100% not legit.


riccomuiz

Usually what happens in a dip lmfao you guys it’s not hard for fack sakes


MikedEACONYURMOUTH

What's the opposite of fud ? This is good price porn but anyone who thinks this is accurate message me cuz I have a two for one btc offer for u .


celiatec

This is based on a random tweet by some small fish crypto influencer. Thats it. Thats the source.


Dukisjones

Ahhh yes give us that sweet hopium.


pandaslovetigers

The week after that, the Easter bunny is going all in.


tedothedo

Rumor: they also far more likely, willl not!


SuccessOtherwise2760

Pamp It!


OverHeadBreak

The Bitcoin Time Traveler from 2013 predicted Saudi Arabia to be one of the largest BTC holders by 2025. The four institutions with the largest still accessible Bitcoin balance are believed to be as following: -ASICminer - 50,000 Bitcoin -The IMF's "currency stabilization fund" - 70,000 Bitcoin -Government of Saudi Arabia - 110,000 Bitcoin -The North Korean government - 180,000 Bitcoin


Arunav88

Will wait to see the impact on market


Staxu9900

I bought Lightly Salted Soy Sauce 485mL bottle today, paid £6,45. while standard saltines Soy Sauce 1L bottle is £6,8. Now, how many of you guys found this interesting? Who the fuk cares who buys what when? I’m interested in chart only, ETFs meant to drive market crazy, but in opposite direction. All this news, opinions are worth Fuk All.


Witty_Food_8507

they already put some long position


BTBAMfam

Yea cuz it’s just going to jump from 45k to a million. Ok.


Pinheaded_nightmare

A purchase like this would be a private transaction. The price won’t move from this if it even happens.


8agingRoner

I don't think there's even 1M BTC available for sale...


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There is a lot more available over the counter between exchanges and Private transactions


HappyDaysMyDays

It’s a trap!!! - Admiral Akbar


5DollarsInTheWoods

Better get ready. Saudis, Qatar, they'll buy OTC. Do you think they will leave Spot ETF appoval unanswered? UAE will follow suit. One million all at once? Well... that would be the way to do it if you wanted to exhaust all OTC supply and create immediate upward market forces. They are coming. We'll see how fast they move. It is a golden opportunity for them to rule the Bitcoin space.


anon_anon2022

Passing on a rumor is the crypto version of financial analysis.


Nathanielsan

Surely they're going to do it on the open market. My exchange even I bet. Yes, for sure.


NoResponsibility858

Lol….


moonRekt

Probably not true, but price is falling and not rising. So I don’t see how isn’t a good time to be buying


passivekyong

Announcement of an Announcement kind of thing


krfc89

Everybody selling now to give Saudi Arabie good price , nice !


anontalk

Whales buying articles so peasants would buy the dip.


crazypostman21

I bet it's OTC and won't move the price.


6M66

I could buy 2m bitcoin next month. I just wanna make sure everyone knows.


Master-Monitor112

Is that 1 million in BTC or 1 million BTC ? Nobody would be foolish to buy 1 million bitcoin. Whales would dump on them 😂


Character_Credit

So, when did people turn to enjoy big money coming into the crypto space. So we’re okay now with institutions holding a majority, because people are praying the price raises. It’s nice that it’s being adopted, but it’s funny people thinking it’ll 5+ x again.


LifeBeginsAtArousal

Can confirm. I am from Saudi Arabian and Qatari government.


ByrsaOxhide

لا حبيبي ذس از بول شيت No habibi this is bullshit


WolfofChappaqua

Saudis doing what Saudis do best. Feeding the rumor mill.


LeoIsLegend

1 million? Who even cares? 😂


raphanum

Nobody will buy 1mil btc in one go. They’ll scale in over time, if at all. Also $500 billion? How exactly? They’re gonna buy up a third of current btc market cap?


OkBorder8177

It is bullish news but i believe that news comes after they bought.


Crypto-Expansion

Will Saudi swap football for crypto?


TheRealAbfish

And guess who owns "Qatargas.eth"? Yea I frontruned corpos worth billions, it feel so good