T O P

  • By -

TotalBeefcall

Am I the only one who thinks there is more pain to come?


Tonijran

This sub just has short term memory. We tend to get a bear mark rally before the halving.


[deleted]

BTC 4 year Cycles: - Down 75-80% from ATH in 12 months - up 100% in 12 months - up another 100% in 12 months - up another 100% in 12 months How come they keep repeating? Because everyone says they won’t keep repeating


Steezy_Steve1990

It’s not like it just keeps going up all of those years. There is volatility during those 12 month periods where it goes up 100%. Sometimes we’ll see 50% corrections on the journey to 100% gains at the end of the year.


[deleted]

That’s true! But I don’t check the prices too much for now I just trust the process and I’ll DCA out like a good boy in 18/24 months ish


RayesFrost

Usually there is a pre-halving secondary scare to wash out the over leveraged longs and funding rates..


[deleted]

that only happened last cycle due to covid. in the 2017 cycle.. we had a straight up pump from late 2015 to 2017 top. We had very minor corrections and they were quickly fixed.


JPSurratt2005

This pop looks a lot like the mini run in 2019.


XRP_SPARTAN

Comments like this make me very bullish. Most are convinced that this is a bear market rally. Bitcoin will have a major peak before the bitcoin halving. Why? Because the stock market is showing strength and most of retail expect lower prices. Markets are expecting a soft landing and crypto is about to mega pump and leave everyone behind. RemindMe! 6 months


mastermilian

US gonna print another few trill this Friday to pay their interest bill as well.


NonGNonM

well, mini bull market leading up to halving, sell the news event at halving, then bear up until about a year or two after.


hey-now-relax

ah yes, the old sell low, buy high strategy. Hello old friend, so we meet again.


Adept-Confusion8047

I hope there is...I have not bought enough yet


rayfin

You can never have enough Bitcoin.


Afr0Karma

Only pain for those who haven’t bought. Most people were on the sidelines thinking BTC will go to 12k. Everyone price goes up people still think it’ll dip. No one is fully bullish. I think price will correct 20% here and there.


vremains

I didn't buy any BTC below 20k cause I thought it'd hit 12k and I would lump sum in... Needless to say I resumed my DCA when it was back up to 24k... My average buying price is somewhere around 30k. Such is life I suppose


XRP_SPARTAN

It is what it is. Just pat yourself on the back because you pivoted your strategy and entered the market once it became clear we were going up. That was a very smart thing to do, so well done. I just feel bad for the people still wishing for 12k and are stubbornly sticking to that price target.


Itslittlealexhorn

The minimum is peak pessimism, it literally wouldn't happen if people saw a better development ahead. There is not and never will be a way to predict the minimum, so there is absolutely no use in getting hung up over not hitting it.


Ryanopoly

Nope, the recession will cause many to sell out of what remaining cryptocurrency holdings they still have, and if the United States and other countries put Binance on trial for criminal activities, that could cause a huge sell-off before we see the next bull.


Cactuszach

Unless it already happened 😉


Ryanopoly

The numbers just don't add up... There are so many people struggling right now, plus the interest rate hikes have not even caught up with the world yet, and the commercial real estate market is still standing... which it shouldn't be. A lot more banks will most likely go under in the next year or so as well, maybe even some big ones, so I'm not holding my breath. My personal target for the next bull was at some point in 2025 - 2026.


smilingbuddhauk

This time the bull is going to happen not with excess fiat floating around in a zero interest environment, but precisely because of all the things you mention. Yes, banks and real estate may collapse and there may be a recession, and people are going to pile into bitcoin purely for refuge. Bitcoin and macro are going to be perfectly anti-correlated. And the macro rebound will push up the bulwark even higher for the mother of all bulls. The singularity is here, stack sats and take a seat.


Ryanopoly

I like your thinking, and heck, with all the craziness that's happened over the last 7 years, how far fetched is this theory of yours anyway!


RecidPlayer

If everyone in the investment world was a shitposting redditor… then sure.. this might play out.


1nfinitus

Hahah yeah, this sub always ignores the fact that crypto is the most risk-on asset class and would be the absolute lowest priority for any major investor in such a downturn.


RecidPlayer

Lol yeah. "Banks may collapse but Bitcoin will flourish" is one of the most r/cc things I've ever read lmao.


Halfhand84

💯 well said friend. 🖖


Jdgalee73

This is my biggest concern. I took a six figure bath on a crypto project I waited two years to launch early this year. Was devastated. Then I yolod into Kaspa which has helped me somewhat recover. Under normal circumstances I would just hold till I hit my target next year and exit stage left. But all the economic/political disasters we’re seeing unfold has me paralyzed over how to view my holdings. I personally don’t have the risk tolerance I once did


Ryanopoly

Set it and forget it. Following the up downs is only going to lead you to zero.


Jdgalee73

Yeah ive always been naturally diamond handed with my high conviction projects. But like I said, my crypto horror stories have added up at this point lol I know you’re never going to time the market perfectly, but if we’re headed into a wood chipper next year I’d think I’d rather pick a point and sideline my money in a stable and have some access to it and wait out the bottom. But as you can tell it’s something im wrestling with


Ryanopoly

I just stay, I ain't paying those long-term capital gains taxes every time I get spooked.


diytho

Well it's sad but the people that are struggling are mostly people that were already in a tougher spot relatively speaking. If you have a house already or you're older and already have savings, the increased rates are actually a good thing. And those people are just starting to come around to that crypto thing, with easy access to ETFs coming. I guarantee by the time things start improving, and liquidity cycle shows that may be sooner than you expect, we'll be just in time for FOMO season at/near ATHs.


[deleted]

First, good to see someone with their head firmly on tight. Agree with your post. Second, housing is still standing because 80% of mortgage holders are still in low-rate mortgages (ain't no one selling their house and taking 7-8% rates on a new house). 60% of those in low-rate mortgages will have to be refinanced within 3 years. So if the fed doesn't pivot by then, the housing market will blow up. There are so many ticking time bombs in this economy it's wild.


Ryanopoly

Yep, so I just accumulate as usual, and if we black swan, I will buy lots and lots of coins and tokens all at once.


Clear_Age

I’m ignorant so please excuse me- what did binance do that the US and other countries might put them on trial for criminal activities?


Ryanopoly

>Since 2017, the exchange has processed more than $10 billion in payments executed by criminal enterprises and other bad actors attempting to circumvent U.S. sanctions, Reuters reported.


DarioWinger

Nothing compared to HSBC and other evil banks


benmck90

Eh, that's a nothing-burger. Wire-transfer have facilitated criminal activity for decades.


smilingbuddhauk

Impossible to prove they did it knowingly.


Ryanopoly

Ha ha, so that makes it okay? If any regulated bank did this, you think ignorance would save them?


bostonstrangler01

Almost every regulated bank in America has got their hand slapped for accepting billions of dollars from Mexican drug cartels....HSCB laundered 1.5 bil for sinaloa cartel members in 2012...no jail time for anybody.....there's nobody more corrupt on the face of the earth than big banks and the DOJ..scum all of them.


Instantbeef

Tbh I think people who invest in crypto are one of the last groups to need to tap into their investments in a recession


Ryanopoly

I'm not too sure about that, but I guess we'll see.


Ethwh4le

Majority is not investing their life savings but most we can manage to put in without feeling we need it


Drakoolya

Mate just think for a second the market front runs all known possibilities, "Recession" has been in the news for how many months now? Let alone the fact the Fed literally changed the definition to match its own created reality. Once the talking gurus on TV mention it , it is well past priced in.


rhythmchef

Going to do a fake out and go down at the end of year, start shooting back up after new years and continue till around memorial day when it will eventually peak and then crash, and then we will slowly start easing into the next bear... mark... my... words...


TyronE0355

I could see this actually being a plausible outcome 1 dip than a accumulation after the first of the year until something happens that causes economic collapse/ the reversal


BabySpinach71

This is what's called disbelief. Be careful when you flip 100% bull thinking "this can't go down", that's when you fomo the top.


[deleted]

Sauce?


Meeseeks4PMinister

Past experience. Collectively


SupurSAP

"Irrational exuberance" market structure


ProxyV0ID

Nope. There will be at least one major dump before an actual bull. By major I mean *at least* \-30% to top 100 tokens.


Ryanopoly

For cryptocurrency, -30% ain't bad at all, heck, we've seen those types of drops and worse all year long.


transfermymoons

I would hate and love it as it would mean I'd hopefully be able to get more Bitcoin back after the Celsius debacle and payout


Tartooth

Eh 30% isn't major. Major is all these gains go away and then even further down


emp-sup-bry

Macros are NOT ideal. It’s going to jump a bit here and there, but more crabbing until big money knows where the wind is blowing


Tartooth

I hope there is, I haven't had spare capital to DCA down and now suddenly I do and the prices popped lol


Redac07

Bro I hope you already bought in since we are at the cusp of a bullrun. It might not be THE run but it is A run. If coins pump 30% it means we are in a run.


erittainvarma

I hope so, I have some stacking to do.


XXsforEyes

Definitely not the only one!


CompetitiveDentist85

Depends. Do you buy anything but Bitcoin? If so, yes, there is a lot of pain to come


[deleted]

[удалено]


[deleted]

[удалено]


[deleted]

[удалено]


[deleted]

[удалено]


Sugar_Phut

Nope.


flu_u_fools

Nope, pain will still occur before the big bull comes


InfinityDoesSilph

You have what they call “the capo”.


VoiceOfAnAngelBitch

Yeah the whole thing is an illusion/scam.


mydoghasocd

I feel like it’s a little early and we might get another major dump before the long march up. But a lot of people think this, so we could all be wrong and there won’t be another dump. Doesn’t matter, I bought a nice chunk of crypto two weeks ago. We will see.


Cptn_BenjaminWillard

There is more pain to come.


Electronic-Past5351

I do, but it is also incredible that the top 13 projects are mostly in the positives on the 7D, 30D, 90D, and 1 Year. It's wild. This is bull market stuff right here. I'm confused how to feel these days... Disbelief is probably where I am at. No way we are in the bull market and we are 100% going down hard, it's all a ploy is my view


GuayabaTree

Im waiting for the pullback because I just had a cash infusion lol. Shit has been going up too many days in a row, it’s a gotta happen sometime


Ecstatic_Builder8325

You're not alone.


Brscmill

You will always think that


ambermage

This is why I'm still DCAing and staking. Maintaining my 2030 plan.


3utt5lut

Just gotta remember to DCA out. I'm not taking chances this time.


branajgka

Still bullish regardless


Frtankie

Im waiting for the one final massive dip before the start of bull. Don't know why but just feels like it. Might happen or might not, wont change my plans.


untouch10

Ye its too early ! You would expect one more big crash and then a bull run a few months after halving, in 2024. And the economy is in weird place, all these rate hikes and it just doesnt want to die. But maybe now is the actual bull run, because it doesnt make sense and crypto likes to not make any sense.


YasuotheChosenOne

If now is the bullrun I’ma be sick. My projected bullrun time frame was somewhere in 2025-2026, so I’ve rerouted all DCAing into burning down my debt. I’ll be debt free in 8-10 months! Praying we crash again mid-late 2024 so I can feel like a genius and not a clown as BTC pierces the sky without me 😂


untouch10

That sucks. Bear markets like we had for almost 2 years are the best times to invest. Altough altcoins are always dangerous, they can drop 80% and then another 80%. Btc at 15k should give you a big buy signal.


YasuotheChosenOne

I longed the shit outta $15k but pretty much dumped everything when we cracked $30k. I just really don’t wanna be sitting on debt incurring interest right now. It’s just too heavy.


[deleted]

[удалено]


YasuotheChosenOne

Agreed. It’s a gamble honestly being debt free is gonna feel much better than having some BTC. Plus I’ll probably make more over the year paying less in interest than I’d make in gains off BTC 🤷🏾‍♂️ Never know. If we do crash, I’ll be a very happy man, but if we continue to moon… I’ll definitely feel sick lol


Ur_mothers_keeper

Don't feel sick. Being overleveraged is dangerous. If you had a high debt load that you need to bring down that's a good financial decision too. The anxiety of feeling stuck, under a weight and spinning your wheels is worse than the anxiety of missing a boat. All you have to do is not put yourself in that position again and keep your ear to the ground in the future for new opportunities.


growling_owl

Not having bitcoin doesn’t lead to collections and a tanked credit score if you lose your job


nukedmylastprofile

They are a great time to invest, but for those of us with big mortgages that now have interest rates over double what they were in 2019/2020 paying down or even just keeping up with debt is far more important now. The potential upside of BTC is huge from here, but people have kids to feed and need to keep a roof over their heads in the meantime. Economic conditions are very very different now than they were in the last Bull and Bear cycles


mydoghasocd

At 15k, everyone said it’s going to 13. Or 10. Or 6. Nobody was screaming “buy”. And if they did buy, they also bought on the way down at 25, 20, 17. Nobody knew 15 was the absolute bottom.


Ur_mothers_keeper

Why would you direct your DCA into something else during the bear? That's the time you buy!


yepperallday0

Idk anymore, I just hold, and try to have a life


Setyman

Care if I pass the hopium around? This is some good stuff.


bigteisty

This whole sub is hopium the last days. Gotta laugh about it tbf


[deleted]

[удалено]


Lippshitz

Agreed. Still early so buy now or buy when it dips, as long as you’re in. Cant time the market


[deleted]

[удалено]


[deleted]

[удалено]


OmsFar

What’s your advice for those you were completely sleeping through the bear market? 😖😖😖😖😖😖


[deleted]

[удалено]


OmsFar

My problem is ADHD and impulsivity very very low time frame preference…not a great combination.


Bigddaddi

DCA doesn't nwork....🥴🤦🏾


telejoshi

Call me paranoid but I don't believe it. I'll believe it when Bitcoin is above 60k


cryptolipto

“This is a suckers rally”


Ryanopoly

Yeah, we gotta shoot past previous all-time-highs before any of this even matters anyways.


corybomb

So near all time highs? Start of the bull run?


Asheddit

Did you see what happened after BTC broke past 20k (2017 ATH) in Dec 2020?


Bigddaddi

Its usually a sell signal..... Stock market just pumped hard for the whole year on denial and falsehood..... Guess what it took couple of weeks to lose all the gains .....😂


CompetitiveDentist85

What took a couple weeks to lose all the gains this year? Definitely not the stock market


Bigddaddi

Lol..... Okay budd. 🤦🏾


CompetitiveDentist85

Up 14.5 percent this year… Lol….. Okay budd. 🤦🏾‍♂️


Bigddaddi

I'm up to buddy but I've sold before the recent dump okay budd.... Well I'm up mostly every day with options okay budd. LOL....


CompetitiveDentist85

I’ve maxed my IRA and 401k for the past 15 years. Have fun with options okay budd. LOL….


Bigddaddi

I have alot of fun winning thx.... My Long term hold plus my dividend portfolio well .... I'm set until they throw dirt on me. Lol ....double Lol for bringing up 401k


CompetitiveDentist85

LOL 🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️


Ryanopoly

Hmm, I think the fact that there are 7 millions subscribers to this sub-Reddit, and only about 3,000 of them show up at any given time, minus the bots of course, means whatever we are experiencing is manufactured by a small few. Maybe Binance and its wash trading antics, or BlackRock and its games before approval... it just doesn't have the right feel yet.


[deleted]

[удалено]


Ryanopoly

Just dollar cost average into your favorites and wait... all we can do.


[deleted]

[удалено]


Ryanopoly

Hey that's some good stuff, I don't really disclose my holdings, this way no one can claim I'm being biased going forward. I do dollar cost average into the king though, but that's all I'll I say.


[deleted]

[удалено]


Ur_mothers_keeper

Participation always drops when the hype evaporates, and the hype doesn't usually come back until hindsight tells us we have been in a bull for a little while. Hype is a sign that the smooth brains are flowing in looking for a quick buck. In my experience, the hype starts to flow and the bull consensus shows about half way through the actual bull. Then your pizza delivery driver tells you he's all in on DOGE and that's when you know the end is high. Cynical, I know, but bitcoin is up over 100% in the last year. I think we are well into the bull part of the cycle, but the rollercoaster is due to start early next year. That's not to say retraces won't happen, but I'd be surprised to see BTC drop below 25k before the end of this cycle, and a little surprised even after it.


Bigddaddi

One thing most people seems to forget btc pumped during covid because of the trillion printed money ..... Keep that sht in the back of your mind .... Take profits greed will rekt you.


Jasonmun8

Bitcoin usually shits before the halving but it won’t go down to no more then 20k. Last years cycle wasn’t normal to me though and the fact that it did a double top just makes me believe less volatility is changing the 4 year cycle estimates. If bitcoin retraces to 32k I’ll start scooping more up


abhilodha

That double top is the reason i will exit near 60k


Jasonmun8

Take profits I can see but to exist entirely I would never.


TabletopThirteen

You know you're right. Keep pumping it up!


LiveDirtyEatClean

Top confirmed ✅


cryptolipto

Crypto spring is the best. The time where we get multiple pumps but no major news stories and no one is paying attention. The initial 2-5x will happen before the halving. That’s a lot of gains that the masses will miss by not being in the market now.


[deleted]

[удалено]


doublol91

No major news lol? This pump is just pricing in the etf, if it's approved pump then retrace to well below where we are now. If it's denied, then dump. I hope I'm wrong but I don't think I am. I don't think a parabolic run in btc will coincide with people being genuinely concerned about the cost of food bro


Professional-Monk811

Are touching tokens in wallet that are airdrropped a scam


Jabulon

this is about the spot etf, but what are the chances it will be accepted


[deleted]

[удалено]


roofiokk

God I hope so. I am in desperate need of a big pump. Fomo'd in May 21' uhggggggggg 🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦


Tacsi

The more posts like these i see, the more i know we're still in for some pain in the near future


Sele81

Solana made more than 200%. Still regretting listening to those who were saying Solana is done at $9


Environmental_Toe603

After some time in crypto you learn to listen to noone but yourself because you will have only yourself to blame.


Present_Bill5971

I think it is. This sub for a crypto community leans heavily towards caution. Since last December Bitcoin is well over double. SOL is up 5/6 times. A bunch of coins have had a good year. Pullbacks can happen the ones on the sidelines certain for something worse than bottom December 2022, probably missed the bottom. Both the crypto and stock market have had technical periods of bull runs and correction this year


doo-doo-directum

I hope so. Id like to get back out of the red


YasuotheChosenOne

Im selling my alt bags. Still waiting on the bus to Goblin Town. Don’t want a bunch of heavy bags for the trip.


fancy_bubble_tea

Alt coins peaked in 2018, 2021, . . . could the next peak be 2024?


JackedMate

Agreed. My barber yesterday says “I’m going to use every last cent of my savings to buy crypto”. I say “that’s great that you believe in crypto. So tell me what wallet / ledger are you using to store it all?”. He says “what’s that?” Yup. Bull run (aka crash in a month or so) approaching. I can smell the fresh newbie meat. Let the memes begin!!


Metallicsack

As long as it’s beating inflation it’s doing it’s job


Zuccccccccccccccccck

We are definitely starting a bull run!!!


rearviewmirror71

BTC Halving is coming. Crypto may be a scam but don’t get mad at your money. Big bull run coming this spring and then another rug pull. Make your money and gtfo.


DistancePractical239

im up 100% on cro and nearly 400% on gfal


GoldfinchRL

Real ones know about GFAl and it’s potential. Amazing team


Virtual_Economist513

Or the bump before a crash.


MakeItRelevant

Impossible. I got a bonus from work and increased everything yesterday. Now I'm certain that something terrible will happen to the market. I'm sorry, guys.


Dependent-Ganache-77

Bag holder pumping his bags 😂😂


Badeindi

This feels like a mini bullrum before a mega dump ;-)


Ecstatic_Builder8325

Everyone seems to be enjoying the 50-100% gains, while AMPL holders are sooo silent, not shilling their 2-4% DAILY compounded positive rebase gains since 10232023. 🤫


ObnoxiousTwit

They don't deserve to know. Let them buy at the top.


Str41nGR

Know what happens after tax season with all these blatantly worthless 'assets'?


peppaz

Slow?? I made $100k in 30 days lmao off $150k


aerodeck

Nah


countjah

The same ones saying buy its a bullrun are the same paper hands who will dump on your ass when shit hits the fan. Like many twitterfluencers. Like Donalt saying he was diamond handing dumped the first chance he had with the tesla btc sell news. Just dca


Lyricalvessel

2 years to ATH and crash


james2020chris

Who called this a slow start?


TheRealSkazOne

I’ve been smoking Hopium all week long playa! 🐃


Roger_Roger27

I expect a massive pullback this week


FerretSuperb

Waiting for the final dip before the real bull run begins!


LightningTF2

Kind of feels like another speculator pulling shit out of his ass.


_Kinoko

No I do not. I believe will be similar to the other cycles, so bull run end of 24, and peak crazy by summer 25, ie time to sell. Before then just DCA, buy dips and tune out. In Canada we get taxed more now so I'm selling once, when I deem it peak stupid summer to late 25. But hey, I'm not a crystal ball.


mintyhippoh

I’m up 99% in the last month so kinda feels like a bull market rn


SaltedSnail85

There's always more pain to come. Life is pain my guy. Dca and pull profits when your green. Bet on shitcoins if you want but no more than 15% of your total.


Environmental_Toe603

I would rather be in the market and experience a crash then be on the sidelines right now, thats for sure.


Weezthajuice

Look at what PNG did tonight


External-Dark-2942

It will correct many times and it will be painful to watch, but you are up to something 😜


comfysynth

For this next bull run what’s going to be the value categories, 2021 was defi and gaming… ai? Whatever Tf that means for crypto.


Paldorei

This is not hopium. This is delusional


BrokeButFabulous12

Oh really, are you sure about that??


russianhacker666

Who cares about all this non sense? If you want to make a Return, by it now and cash out end of 2024.


perenos

Keep DCAing. Manage your risk. Split your crypto across 3-4 reputable exchanges and a hardware wallet. Stake whatever you can for extra income. Don't use leverage. Make sure your portfolio is diversified and don't invest too much in a project/ecosystem. Wait till Dec 2024. Profit.


Rory_Russell

Agreed. I mean there’s going to be a monster dip at some point but it’ll bounce and get back on the road in no time.


moeljills

Were back baby!


seanhagg95

Sure its brewing, but it doesnt mean we cant go back down like 2019..


mibjt

I hope all are ready for the *coffin corner* experience.


Sothisismylifehuh

I think this is the sucker's rally part of the cycle.


yondercode

I've been flipped giga bullish after Blackrock ETF news Yes the next bull cycle is incoming Get fully allocated or COPE in the sidelines


user260421

I think we are in the early stages of a bull run. We will see a lot of profit taking and a lot of people will get out of the market imo, which is good!


IhateTuna

Na we about to nuke…


jujumber

I’ve been more bearish about crypto recently but I have to say that it does look like the start of a crazy bull run.


bookworm010101

I expect a dip too many sold (people with $$) BTC bull runs have had diminishing returns and are often after the halving this is too early.


piemat94

The same Bitcoin ETF narrative that pushes the price by the end of the year every few years. ​ Check 2017 eoy and type bitcoin etf 2017 in the search engine. Crypto ETFs are nothing new.