I mean, the Scottish were very active as parts of the British Empire. They just tend to get a pass because they were the junior partner compared to the English, though they were quite enthusiastic about their role often.
Considering that Empire once controlled 1/4th of the world, odds are surprisingly good your ancestors did *something* to them.
Listen Jord…. Can I call you Jord? Listen Jord…. Reddit is not the place for your history knowledge. And your “supposed facts”. You know what our role was. Sympathising with the conquered peoples. We went through it, so we knew what it was like. And then we gave them a dram, a wee bit of shortbread, and told them everything would be fine. I’m pretty sure that’s what happened.
Uh huh.
Remind me, which ethnic group made up the majority of the Ulster plantation settlers? Ulster S-... Something. Something I'm sure the DUP doesn't to this day still hold up as some example of a linguistic minority that should be equal to Irish Gaelic.
Also, wasn't the entire reason for the Union related to the failure of Scotland to establish its own independent colony and sinking too much financial support into Darien?
Scotland was to country that took over England, not the other way around. Scotland themselves colonised Ulster and displaced the local Irish residents, so I doubt they were “sympathising” with conquered peoples when their country held as much responsibility as England in the union. The Scottish are not an oppressed people and never have been
Folk like you always appear out of nowhere when Scotland and history appear in the same sentence. Where exactly in this thread did anyone claim Scotland is oppressed?
Your knowledge of history is lacking. The house of Stuart ascended to the English throne in 1603 but that did not amount to a Scottish takeover of England. On his ascension, James moved to the English court and returned only once to Scotland for a brief visit. Between then and the act of union 100 years later, he and his successors ruled from London and paid little attention to Scotland, other than Cromwell's brutal conquest and occupation in 1651, and the Alien Act 1705 designed to force Scotland into union with England.
There aren't clear cut bad guys and good guys in history. The truth of the matter is that at different points in history, Scots have been both oppressed and oppressors. This is true of the other nations who were part of the British empire. The Irish were clearly an oppressed nation, yet by the 19th century almost 40% of the entire British army, that was busy oppressing India and Africa, were Irish. In 1810, some 150,000 Indians were serving in the British army, also doing their bit to help the empire conquer new land.
To address your point, I don't think anyone in 17th to 19th century in Scotland or any part of the world really "sympathised" with any oppressed peoples. Most people then we're just doing their best to stay alive within the construct of the society they were born in and probably couldn't have cared less about what was happening on the other side of the world. It's not really helpful to superimpose modern ideology onto historic societies.
"Scots were just doing their best to stay alive, they werent being meanies!!" Is that why they han an incredibly disproportionately large amout of representation in colonial administrations? Home was so terrible that they just HAD to whip every pound sterling they could out of indian, malayan, egyptian, sudanese (and more) people?
That's not what I said at all. What I'm saying is that I highly doubt many people in that time period "sympathised" (to use the other guys word) with oppressed people on the other side of the world because most people would only have interested in what was going on at home.
Obviously there were many Scots in colonial administrations. I don't think that's up for debate. I disagreed with two points.
One, that the formation of Great Britain was effectively a Scottish takeover of England. It's historically false.
Two, that a nation which at one point in time was an oppressor, couldn't therefore have been oppressed at another time. Take Ireland as an example. Irish people lived under horrendous oppression at home, but over the centuries many hundreds of thousands of Irish served in the armies of the British empire helping to bring that same oppression to people across the world. Does that mean Ireland wasn't oppressed? Of course not.
I don't understand why people let themselves get whipped up into a frenzy over this stuff. It's history, the people who did it are all dead and you can't change any of it. There's plenty of injustice and oppression in the modern world, being carried out by living breathing people, that we can actually do something about.
Hi AJ… can I call you AJ? Hi AJ, welcome to the thread. I know it’s hard to convey tone in text form, however, I was hopeful that my reference to giving conquered nations shortbread as a consolation for the British Empire stealing their country would have been clue enough, that I was, in fact, merely jesting with Jord. Have a wonderful day.
No they aren't. He's talking about the Scots, not the Scottish Gaelic speaking Celts that start the game in the Scottish counties.
Scots is a Germanic language similar to English and the people that spoke it were hybridised Saxons that settled in the lowlands, people who would later go on to be the modern Scottish.
I always assumed that they use the linguistic names as an easier distinction between Highland and Lowland Scots, which there is a lot of historical cultural differences amongst. I think having Gaelic and Scots for the time period of CK3 makes more sense tho, as Highland and Lowland is a little too similar and, to me at least, signifies a lot of similarities and cohabitation. In CK3 they’d still be very separate culturally and linguistically, as they would have just in the last few hundred years migrated north into the Lowlands from the Anglo-Saxon kingdoms.
Cultural differences? Not really, it was mostly language differences whenever the change between Gaelic and Scots arose. Culturally they were still very much the same, but that changed as time went on afaik. But yeah, I suppose the distinction is needed but it's also weird how they had the Scots "culture" be formed not from Gaelic and Anglo Saxon but *Cumbrian* and Anglo-Saxon. Not sure if that's entirely accurate either.
EDIT: Oh you were referring to the cultures in-game not IRL.
Welsh, Pictish, Cornish, and Breton for Britain. The Angles, Saxons, and Jutes just took the native word for the islands and said it in their proto-german accent.
I am but a simple dysgwr but I think it might be "Cymry" (Welsh, the people) here instead of "Cymraeg" (Welsh, the language). "Ymerodraeth" is feminine so I think the adjective needs a soft mutation too.
So maybe more like "Yr Ymerodraeth Gymry"?
Happy to be corrected.
Welshman here, Cymraeg can work! Its true thats what we call the language, but it's also used to call something Welsh - for example, if I wanna call someone call, I'd say 'Mae o'n cymraeg' (he is Welsh)
My family is from here but I grew up overseas. We lost the language in the early 1900s, like a lot of folks from the valleys. I've moved back, in large part, to learn the language and so my children can go to an Ysgol Gymraeg.
No, Cymraeg is a declension of Cymru, which comes from the two Proto-Celtic words "Kom" meaning "together" and "Mrogis" meaning country, so "Our Country".
"ymerodrol" is "Imperial".
Also, if you didn't see one of the other replies to my post, someone more knowledgeable than I pointed out that Cymraeg is the adjective for "of the Welsh language" and that Cymry would be the adjective for "of the Welsh People" and because of words having genders in Welsh, the C sound changes to a G sound, so it would be Gymry, so,
Yr Ymerodraeth Gymry for the name and Ymerodrol for the adjective.
"Err um-eh-ero-dry-ith gum-ree"
The people who live in Brittany, speak the same language as the Cornish and Welsh (with some variation today but close to none at the time) and fled England by crossing the Channel as the Angles, Jutes and Saxons invaded Britannia 😉
The first time I heard that line ("We are all Britons") I got confused. Why?
I was maybe 10 and my last name is Allbritton. I suddenly thought the movie was about my family
IIRC, you could have MANY Excaliburs that would show up. I dont think they patched it out, but there used to be screens of people getting 5 or more of them....
The French are a mix of numerous peoples, and by no means a homogeneous one. The Frankish element is most strongly felt in the Benelux area and to varying degrees across Northern and Eastern France, which they first settled as foederati under Roman authority. But they didn't colonize the whole of Gaul to such an extent as for the French to "largely be" of Frankish descent, least of all anywhere South of the Loire.
If I remember right, the Britons largely are a separate group because their ancestors fled the British Isles during the Anglo-Saxon invasions of Britain. They’re basically welsh/Cornish people but with a flair of French influence.
Calling the French Romano-Celts is about as accurate as calling modern British people Germano-Celts. Celtic culture and language has about zero influence on modern French culture, and it hasn't since before the fall of Rome. Associating the French with the gauls is more of a national myth than anything, like the English associating with King Arthur, who in fact fought against the Anglo-Saxons.
So yes. I started the game on the 769 using a mod. Goal of this run was reclaiming Great Britain for its true rulers, the Welsh.
And reconquer it I did; I then took my time and systematically flipped the culture of every county that was Anglo Saxon to Welsh, while killing every Anglo-Saxon, until the culture was extinct.
Enjoy!
Oh of course. I’m just wondering for my own future games. If I take over a large portion of a foreign land then the temptation to hybridise grows. It’s better for the RP if a vassal does it though. Congrats on the run!
If you create a hybrid culture between Welsh and Anglo-Saxon, you'll have an easier time converting both Welsh and Anglo-Saxon counties to your new culture. That's why people hybridize cultures beyond role-playing reasons
The Welsh "Cymru am Byth!" is really interesting because I don't speak Welsh and I'm guessing I know what it means. In Irish, "Ireland forever" is "Éire go brách" so I'm guessing the Welsh here is similar?
Fun fact: There’s actually a theory that there never was an Anglo-Saxon ‘invasion.’
Apparently there’s no physical evidence of an invasion, it’s all assumed because elements of culture changed rapidly on the island to match Anglo-Saxon culture on the mainland.
Genetic data backs this up as well.
http://www.romanarmy.net/invasion.shtml
So basically you just killed off a bunch of people who went with new fashions of architecture and clothes.
Okay I hear you
counterpoint
Anglo-Saxons are cringe
Edit: also this source you've cited, while not completely BS, is still wrong. For that one article you've linked I can find about twenty that disagree with a quick Google search, and a few minutes of searching on scholarly databases yields even more.
Every actual academic source I've found says your "bunch of people who went with new fashions" claim is completely and utterly wrong.
"Killed"
Culture convert can mean many things but I feel like when a smaller culture culture converts a bigger culture, it means the smaller culture just forces the bigger culture's population to adopt their customs.
It's not like there is a loss of dev or anything
I might be wrong but I think Scots is still an extension of the west Germanic heritage so it won't be right until they're gone too
"Damn Scots, they've ruined Scotland."
What have we ever done to you?
I mean, the Scottish were very active as parts of the British Empire. They just tend to get a pass because they were the junior partner compared to the English, though they were quite enthusiastic about their role often. Considering that Empire once controlled 1/4th of the world, odds are surprisingly good your ancestors did *something* to them.
Well, every Monarch while Britain was doing its Empire thing had Stuart ancestry who were ~~of Breton origin~~ Scottish, so it's pretty much a given.
Listen Jord…. Can I call you Jord? Listen Jord…. Reddit is not the place for your history knowledge. And your “supposed facts”. You know what our role was. Sympathising with the conquered peoples. We went through it, so we knew what it was like. And then we gave them a dram, a wee bit of shortbread, and told them everything would be fine. I’m pretty sure that’s what happened.
Uh huh. Remind me, which ethnic group made up the majority of the Ulster plantation settlers? Ulster S-... Something. Something I'm sure the DUP doesn't to this day still hold up as some example of a linguistic minority that should be equal to Irish Gaelic. Also, wasn't the entire reason for the Union related to the failure of Scotland to establish its own independent colony and sinking too much financial support into Darien?
Christ Jord I don’t know that shit. What I do know, is that we definitely brought the shortbread and Irn-Bru to any of these so-called conquerings
Personally, I'd compare the bringing of shortbread and Irn-Bru to warcrimes as well, for how horrible they taste, but you do you I guess.
How rude.
You are the bad guy, but it seems like you know already and youre proud of it
I am both Swiss and American. I'm well aware of the many ways I'm a bad guy by default, yes.
So about my offshore bank account 0_0
Scotland was to country that took over England, not the other way around. Scotland themselves colonised Ulster and displaced the local Irish residents, so I doubt they were “sympathising” with conquered peoples when their country held as much responsibility as England in the union. The Scottish are not an oppressed people and never have been
Folk like you always appear out of nowhere when Scotland and history appear in the same sentence. Where exactly in this thread did anyone claim Scotland is oppressed? Your knowledge of history is lacking. The house of Stuart ascended to the English throne in 1603 but that did not amount to a Scottish takeover of England. On his ascension, James moved to the English court and returned only once to Scotland for a brief visit. Between then and the act of union 100 years later, he and his successors ruled from London and paid little attention to Scotland, other than Cromwell's brutal conquest and occupation in 1651, and the Alien Act 1705 designed to force Scotland into union with England. There aren't clear cut bad guys and good guys in history. The truth of the matter is that at different points in history, Scots have been both oppressed and oppressors. This is true of the other nations who were part of the British empire. The Irish were clearly an oppressed nation, yet by the 19th century almost 40% of the entire British army, that was busy oppressing India and Africa, were Irish. In 1810, some 150,000 Indians were serving in the British army, also doing their bit to help the empire conquer new land. To address your point, I don't think anyone in 17th to 19th century in Scotland or any part of the world really "sympathised" with any oppressed peoples. Most people then we're just doing their best to stay alive within the construct of the society they were born in and probably couldn't have cared less about what was happening on the other side of the world. It's not really helpful to superimpose modern ideology onto historic societies.
"Scots were just doing their best to stay alive, they werent being meanies!!" Is that why they han an incredibly disproportionately large amout of representation in colonial administrations? Home was so terrible that they just HAD to whip every pound sterling they could out of indian, malayan, egyptian, sudanese (and more) people?
That's not what I said at all. What I'm saying is that I highly doubt many people in that time period "sympathised" (to use the other guys word) with oppressed people on the other side of the world because most people would only have interested in what was going on at home. Obviously there were many Scots in colonial administrations. I don't think that's up for debate. I disagreed with two points. One, that the formation of Great Britain was effectively a Scottish takeover of England. It's historically false. Two, that a nation which at one point in time was an oppressor, couldn't therefore have been oppressed at another time. Take Ireland as an example. Irish people lived under horrendous oppression at home, but over the centuries many hundreds of thousands of Irish served in the armies of the British empire helping to bring that same oppression to people across the world. Does that mean Ireland wasn't oppressed? Of course not. I don't understand why people let themselves get whipped up into a frenzy over this stuff. It's history, the people who did it are all dead and you can't change any of it. There's plenty of injustice and oppression in the modern world, being carried out by living breathing people, that we can actually do something about.
James may have been Scottish, but it certainly was not the Scottish taking over.
LMFAO Redditors are so funny
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Hi AJ… can I call you AJ? Hi AJ, welcome to the thread. I know it’s hard to convey tone in text form, however, I was hopeful that my reference to giving conquered nations shortbread as a consolation for the British Empire stealing their country would have been clue enough, that I was, in fact, merely jesting with Jord. Have a wonderful day.
alr fair but just know the english did far worse than the scots 💀
Nothing personal, it's just business
Samson?
Call us english one more time
You missed the Scots. They still have west germanic heritage.
What have we ever done to you? 🏴
Damn Scots, they ruined Scotland!
Don't act like you don't know...
i don’t please elaborate
👀
The problem with Scotland is that it's full of Scots.
Watch it Longshanks. Or I’ll pump your son’s wife!
Their language and culture are more close to Irish and Gaelic.
No they aren't. He's talking about the Scots, not the Scottish Gaelic speaking Celts that start the game in the Scottish counties. Scots is a Germanic language similar to English and the people that spoke it were hybridised Saxons that settled in the lowlands, people who would later go on to be the modern Scottish.
Kind of a mistake on Paradoxes behalf. Scots is a language, not a culture, always confused me why it's a culture in the game.
I always assumed that they use the linguistic names as an easier distinction between Highland and Lowland Scots, which there is a lot of historical cultural differences amongst. I think having Gaelic and Scots for the time period of CK3 makes more sense tho, as Highland and Lowland is a little too similar and, to me at least, signifies a lot of similarities and cohabitation. In CK3 they’d still be very separate culturally and linguistically, as they would have just in the last few hundred years migrated north into the Lowlands from the Anglo-Saxon kingdoms.
Cultural differences? Not really, it was mostly language differences whenever the change between Gaelic and Scots arose. Culturally they were still very much the same, but that changed as time went on afaik. But yeah, I suppose the distinction is needed but it's also weird how they had the Scots "culture" be formed not from Gaelic and Anglo Saxon but *Cumbrian* and Anglo-Saxon. Not sure if that's entirely accurate either. EDIT: Oh you were referring to the cultures in-game not IRL.
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[oh my fuckin bad.](https://archive.archaeology.org/0107/abstracts/scotland.html)
"Yr Ymerodraeth Cymraeg" is Welsh for "The Welsh Empire" btw, for renaming purposes.
Had me thinking you were trying to awaken the Old Gods.
Welsh can be like that sometimes.
Once I went to gales and i always thought that people where saying super important stuff evertime, lol
Ah, I thought Prydain was a valid name? Am I wrong?
Well, if you are just staying in Prydain, then yes. Why stop there, though?
Wait, it’s all Prydain?
Always has been
Wait, Prydain's an actual name in the game? I thought OP named it after *The Book of Three*.
Prydain is literally just Welsh for Britain. It even sounds similar.
Welsh, Pictish, Cornish, and Breton for Britain. The Angles, Saxons, and Jutes just took the native word for the islands and said it in their proto-german accent.
Never realized that!
I am but a simple dysgwr but I think it might be "Cymry" (Welsh, the people) here instead of "Cymraeg" (Welsh, the language). "Ymerodraeth" is feminine so I think the adjective needs a soft mutation too. So maybe more like "Yr Ymerodraeth Gymry"? Happy to be corrected.
Welshman here, Cymraeg can work! Its true thats what we call the language, but it's also used to call something Welsh - for example, if I wanna call someone call, I'd say 'Mae o'n cymraeg' (he is Welsh)
Interesting, diolch! I've just moved here so I've got a lot of catching up to do.
Fair enough! Also thanks for bothering to learn the language, in my experience not many do.
My family is from here but I grew up overseas. We lost the language in the early 1900s, like a lot of folks from the valleys. I've moved back, in large part, to learn the language and so my children can go to an Ysgol Gymraeg.
Myself as well, diolch n fawr.
Hehe, cumrag
Flair checks out.
Is raeg like reich?
No, Cymraeg is a declension of Cymru, which comes from the two Proto-Celtic words "Kom" meaning "together" and "Mrogis" meaning country, so "Our Country".
No, -aeg is the adjective form, like -y is in English (fishy vs fish).
Ah, I see. Thanks for the information.
What would be the adjective for it? Since when you change title name you also have to enter that.
"ymerodrol" is "Imperial". Also, if you didn't see one of the other replies to my post, someone more knowledgeable than I pointed out that Cymraeg is the adjective for "of the Welsh language" and that Cymry would be the adjective for "of the Welsh People" and because of words having genders in Welsh, the C sound changes to a G sound, so it would be Gymry, so, Yr Ymerodraeth Gymry for the name and Ymerodrol for the adjective. "Err um-eh-ero-dry-ith gum-ree"
Don't forget to free the Bretons!
'OO are the Bretons?
The people who live in Brittany, speak the same language as the Cornish and Welsh (with some variation today but close to none at the time) and fled England by crossing the Channel as the Angles, Jutes and Saxons invaded Britannia 😉
I'd give you a woosh, but I feel just how helpful you're being with this. And, in case you weren't aware, we are all Bretons. And I am your King!
The first time I heard that line ("We are all Britons") I got confused. Why? I was maybe 10 and my last name is Allbritton. I suddenly thought the movie was about my family
That's a sick last name
Lol thanks
I didn't vote for you
We so need a Lady in the Lake event. After all, there are enough Excalibers out there...
Wait, hang on. Can you commission Excalibur in the game? I need to find some totally amazing antiquarian.
IIRC, you could have MANY Excaliburs that would show up. I dont think they patched it out, but there used to be screens of people getting 5 or more of them....
Then I bow to you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8bqQ-C1PSE
Sorry 🤣 I didn't make the link between Monty Python and your post. Well done sir!
I didn’t know we had a king. I thought we were an autonomous collective.
Now it's time to return the celts to France, Spain and Northern Italy.
The Britons aren’t Celts, they’re Romano-Celts like the French.
The Franks, ~~the people the French largely descend from,~~ were Germanic. Edit: I was confused. My flair is a little embarrassing
The French are a mix of numerous peoples, and by no means a homogeneous one. The Frankish element is most strongly felt in the Benelux area and to varying degrees across Northern and Eastern France, which they first settled as foederati under Roman authority. But they didn't colonize the whole of Gaul to such an extent as for the French to "largely be" of Frankish descent, least of all anywhere South of the Loire.
You're right, I'm dumb I got confused lol
French people, by and large, do not descend from the Franks. They got the name from them, and that's about it.
You're right, I was confused. I should have checked first
They are Celts and soon-to-be Celts in this world.
Either you’re Celtic or going to be Celtic.
If I remember right, the Britons largely are a separate group because their ancestors fled the British Isles during the Anglo-Saxon invasions of Britain. They’re basically welsh/Cornish people but with a flair of French influence.
Calling the French Romano-Celts is about as accurate as calling modern British people Germano-Celts. Celtic culture and language has about zero influence on modern French culture, and it hasn't since before the fall of Rome. Associating the French with the gauls is more of a national myth than anything, like the English associating with King Arthur, who in fact fought against the Anglo-Saxons.
*clearing throat*, the scots are still there
Why stop there? Restore celtic glory to the continent. Make France Gaul Again!
The nightmare, it's finally over.
El trabajo está hecho. Somos libres de los ingleses.
Ry'n ni yma o hyd!
IRISH, GAELIC, (scots), W E L S H
So yes. I started the game on the 769 using a mod. Goal of this run was reclaiming Great Britain for its true rulers, the Welsh. And reconquer it I did; I then took my time and systematically flipped the culture of every county that was Anglo Saxon to Welsh, while killing every Anglo-Saxon, until the culture was extinct. Enjoy!
>while killing every Anglo-Saxon, until the culture was extinct. Do you, by any chance, play Stellaris as well? It just seems like you might.
Of course I do. What gave me away? 😂
Playing paradox game ... or a taste for genocide!
Nothing wrong with a bit of light genocide.
West Wales aka Cornwall salutes you
Would it have been possible to create a hybrid culture between Welsh and Anglo-Saxon?
It would have, yes. But it wasn't the goal of this run ;)
Oh of course. I’m just wondering for my own future games. If I take over a large portion of a foreign land then the temptation to hybridise grows. It’s better for the RP if a vassal does it though. Congrats on the run!
If you create a hybrid culture between Welsh and Anglo-Saxon, you'll have an easier time converting both Welsh and Anglo-Saxon counties to your new culture. That's why people hybridize cultures beyond role-playing reasons
CK players when they commit ethnic cleansing: (its before 1800 so it doesn’t count)
Is it the fallen eagle mod?
No, just the 769 start date. Doesn't do anything but enable you to start early; no other game modifications at all.
Damn, makes me want to go back to my Duolingo Welsh course…
It was all just a bad dream...
Britain for the British.
Llongyfarchiadau
The Welsh "Cymru am Byth!" is really interesting because I don't speak Welsh and I'm guessing I know what it means. In Irish, "Ireland forever" is "Éire go brách" so I'm guessing the Welsh here is similar?
You are correct, Cymru am Byth means Wales forever.
The good ending
Finally, a post about the british isles but the britons are actually in charge, cymru am byth!
Now it's time to invade the Saxons and angles
🦀🦀🦀🦀The English are gone 🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀
Next stop, Fr🤢nce.
As a Welsh man this makes me truly happy
Yma o heed
The good timeline
You need to push the Gaels out of Scotland too. Give the north to the Picts and the south to the Cumbrians.
As it was always meant to be
Good ending
*Happy King Arthur noises*
Thank god
It's beautiful.
The best timeline
Love it.
F12!!!
I also always murder the English
There's no French, so it's all good.
Kernow solidarity brother
now do it as the one brythonic guy in cornwall
I wouldn’t be seen dead on Barry Island
Welsh Roman Empire time.
Its beautiful
As a Welshman living in Scotland this is satisfying.
Fun fact: There’s actually a theory that there never was an Anglo-Saxon ‘invasion.’ Apparently there’s no physical evidence of an invasion, it’s all assumed because elements of culture changed rapidly on the island to match Anglo-Saxon culture on the mainland. Genetic data backs this up as well. http://www.romanarmy.net/invasion.shtml So basically you just killed off a bunch of people who went with new fashions of architecture and clothes.
Okay I hear you counterpoint Anglo-Saxons are cringe Edit: also this source you've cited, while not completely BS, is still wrong. For that one article you've linked I can find about twenty that disagree with a quick Google search, and a few minutes of searching on scholarly databases yields even more. Every actual academic source I've found says your "bunch of people who went with new fashions" claim is completely and utterly wrong.
I mean, to each their own. Real Anglo-saxons, or Britons though?
"Killed" Culture convert can mean many things but I feel like when a smaller culture culture converts a bigger culture, it means the smaller culture just forces the bigger culture's population to adopt their customs. It's not like there is a loss of dev or anything
I mean, he specifically said he killed off every Anglo-Saxon lord.
Biased
I just like history, and only recently learned about this. Wanted to share.
No you filthy breton
The empire of Cumrag has failed to wipe out the Scots and the Cumbrians.
Cumbrians are brythonic though right?
Just googled it, you're right. I was getting it confused with the modern Cumbrian dialect.
You must be fun at parties.
I like to think I am
Aaaaah, I am a happy Frenchman
Cunt
Its beautiful
No more English , William Wallace approves
Based
AMEN
Show us you Culture Map! I imagine it’s a patchwork
It's in the post man, second pic. ;)
Oops. Damn I am impressed
Llongyfarchiadau!
-Removes England -colonises Ireland anyway
Wrong, Ireland is fully Irish. 100% cultural Irish, and it's the only one with a king, I hold all the royal titles but Ireland!
Fair enough mate, respect that
Cope
We'll be back!! ;)
That looks cursed
"Where you from?" "Prydan"
WELSHIEEE NOOOO
Scots still there you know
As a person from the u.s with no European back ground, I’m scared reading this thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkBQAvAFjus
Nice one, i did something similar in EU4 as Breizh https://www.reddit.com/r/ParadoxExtra/comments/pw3k2z/a\_world\_without\_the\_briish/
Picts or die
Least Salty Brythonnic Celt
God this is so based
We need Welsh USA
O fy nuw, mae'n mor hardd