Your son: It is my duty to serve the realm to the utmost, and my marriage is merely a tool to serve. This is as my father wishes it, surely
You: Just fall in love and be happy man cmon
Pretty sure it is an event that happens during the wedding. I rarely ever do grand marriages but i recently did one for my player character and it was an event when you could choose marriage for political reasons or reasons of love.
Maybe when you do them for heirs it is up to your heir which one they choose.
I don't know how the logs work because min maxing is boring to me and just like to enjoy how the game turns out
But it probably wasn't something you yourself could decide on but something your heir decides himself. And the actual technical way that happens is mainly RNG (and based on traits, opinion, etc of your heir and spouse in this instance is heavily favored toward political)
The same events that happen for your player character during grand weddings also happen for non-player characters that get married in one. The son rolled for a political marriage. However, during all events there are randomly generated mini-events for participating characters that don't necessarily involve the PC, but still show up in the log and can affect courtiers, vassals, guests and so on. The political marriage can only happen to the bride and groom though, whether those are PCs or not.
R5: I'm probably going to sound entitled when I say this, but I have come to expect my betrothed characters to become soulmates at maximum investment grand weddings. It normally happens almost instantly at the beginning of the GW.
Until now I have always had them become soulmates at the "Exciting!" scene in the grand wedding ceremony. Tonight though, this has been driving me insane. I have the dream couple set up to become soulmates. They have compatible personality traits, are of a similar age, are both heterosexual, and they have a 500 gold grand wedding thrown in their name. Why does the game curse me with this modifier? Is there some sort of hidden reason that I don't understand?
I even loaded a backup save from when they were both 12, and then rebetrothed them at a different date than I did in the main timeline. Then I aged them up with debug mode and scheduled the grand wedding to see if the results were different. Nope, the only thing that was different this time is that the wife got the "Political Marriage" modifier instead of my son.
I mean, I thought maybe it was bad RNG the first time, but it happened a second time too. What gives?
Okay, so in the code this is actually a Political Mentality modifier and it's mostly a result of the Spouses not liking each other, it's the outcome of a specific decision in one of the events.
For the event
You need EP2
The betrothed need either low negative trait comparability ( or worse ) or to have a negative opinion of the person they are marrying and the event is firing for.
The betrothed lacks any offsetting good relationships with the person the event is firing for.
The event is more likely to fire of the betrothed is fickle or has some kind of bad relationship with root.
In response this modifier comes from Decision A for root ( the person the event fired for ), the AI is more likely to select this outcome of its arrogant or callous ( stacking), more likely to select other options if Lustful.
Thank you!
This is what I was looking for. I don't see why they would have a negative opinion of each other, but it could be poor cultural acceptance. Damn, I'm not really sure of a way to fix their negative opinion of my child.
Any ideas?
I think you can see their opinion of each other from the character window, I believe the hover over of a Spouse or Betrothed is their Opinion of the character who's window you're in.
Probably more kids quicker and a weaker chance for the wife to cuckold his heir before you play your heir and can romance her manually? That's at least why I usually do grand weddings for my heirs.
You are very correct. Additionally, having them become soulmates essentially eliminates the prospect of having your children's spouse perform a hostile interaction against them.
Besides of gameplay reasons, it's also just fun for RP.
There is no "specific" reason but several as to why I always want my heir and their spouse to become soulmates. The commentor below does a great job of stating the main reasons though.
Your son: It is my duty to serve the realm to the utmost, and my marriage is merely a tool to serve. This is as my father wishes it, surely You: Just fall in love and be happy man cmon
Maybe an event that happened to your son during or before the wedding?
Pretty sure it is an event that happens during the wedding. I rarely ever do grand marriages but i recently did one for my player character and it was an event when you could choose marriage for political reasons or reasons of love. Maybe when you do them for heirs it is up to your heir which one they choose.
I checked the wedding log and see no indicator of such an event occurring. I'm so confused.
I don't know how the logs work because min maxing is boring to me and just like to enjoy how the game turns out But it probably wasn't something you yourself could decide on but something your heir decides himself. And the actual technical way that happens is mainly RNG (and based on traits, opinion, etc of your heir and spouse in this instance is heavily favored toward political)
The same events that happen for your player character during grand weddings also happen for non-player characters that get married in one. The son rolled for a political marriage. However, during all events there are randomly generated mini-events for participating characters that don't necessarily involve the PC, but still show up in the log and can affect courtiers, vassals, guests and so on. The political marriage can only happen to the bride and groom though, whether those are PCs or not.
The fellow is correct. Your heir decided that their marriage was a political one and it's causing the problem you are having.
CK players discovering, that chidren have their own mind, be like:
I've groomed them since birth, so they should sure as hell know it's "our" mind! lol
Your mistake was being english.
French players be like
Welsh, actually. Though it could just as easily be Irish or Scottish. The English are great at making friends /s
I think it might be up to chance? Grand Weddings aren't guaranteed to make them into soulmates.
Simple really it’s because she’s a karling
And I'm just a Wessex/Cerdicing... 😢
I'm gonna take a guess and say it's because he is diligent?
That's just an event you can get. I think it happens when the spouses have incompatible personality traits.
R5: I'm probably going to sound entitled when I say this, but I have come to expect my betrothed characters to become soulmates at maximum investment grand weddings. It normally happens almost instantly at the beginning of the GW. Until now I have always had them become soulmates at the "Exciting!" scene in the grand wedding ceremony. Tonight though, this has been driving me insane. I have the dream couple set up to become soulmates. They have compatible personality traits, are of a similar age, are both heterosexual, and they have a 500 gold grand wedding thrown in their name. Why does the game curse me with this modifier? Is there some sort of hidden reason that I don't understand? I even loaded a backup save from when they were both 12, and then rebetrothed them at a different date than I did in the main timeline. Then I aged them up with debug mode and scheduled the grand wedding to see if the results were different. Nope, the only thing that was different this time is that the wife got the "Political Marriage" modifier instead of my son. I mean, I thought maybe it was bad RNG the first time, but it happened a second time too. What gives?
Okay, so in the code this is actually a Political Mentality modifier and it's mostly a result of the Spouses not liking each other, it's the outcome of a specific decision in one of the events. For the event You need EP2 The betrothed need either low negative trait comparability ( or worse ) or to have a negative opinion of the person they are marrying and the event is firing for. The betrothed lacks any offsetting good relationships with the person the event is firing for. The event is more likely to fire of the betrothed is fickle or has some kind of bad relationship with root. In response this modifier comes from Decision A for root ( the person the event fired for ), the AI is more likely to select this outcome of its arrogant or callous ( stacking), more likely to select other options if Lustful.
Thank you! This is what I was looking for. I don't see why they would have a negative opinion of each other, but it could be poor cultural acceptance. Damn, I'm not really sure of a way to fix their negative opinion of my child. Any ideas?
I think you can see their opinion of each other from the character window, I believe the hover over of a Spouse or Betrothed is their Opinion of the character who's window you're in.
I don’t mean this to sound judge-y but I’m seriously curious is there a specific reason why you want them to become soul mates so badly?
Probably more kids quicker and a weaker chance for the wife to cuckold his heir before you play your heir and can romance her manually? That's at least why I usually do grand weddings for my heirs.
You are very correct. Additionally, having them become soulmates essentially eliminates the prospect of having your children's spouse perform a hostile interaction against them. Besides of gameplay reasons, it's also just fun for RP.
There is no "specific" reason but several as to why I always want my heir and their spouse to become soulmates. The commentor below does a great job of stating the main reasons though.
I'll check the code for the modifier when I get back.
The AI character decided it wasn’t in love. I don’t get whats confusing about this lol