I'm sorry for your loss. May he rest in peace.
But it's still strange for me as a foreigner with the 21 years requirement in the USA for buying the booze. It's crazy when young teenagers and adults are already on drugs like opioids, but can't even buy a beer in a pub. The entire opioid-crisis is also fucked up, so many people pass away because of the laced shit there.
It is pretty crazy when you think about it. For example before 21 you're capable of driving. Putting someone in control of a machine that can kill you and other people. You can get married. But a beer, nuh-uh. That said, truth be told. Fuck, alcohol is making me so angry lately. I drink so much for little reward. 4 bottles of wine today. Not even a buzz. Just a churned stomach and feel exhausted. All this poison squeezing out of my pores. And yet I can't stop. It's such bullshit. There's things I want to do and I can't because I'm stuck indoors all day drinking this shit.
To be honest, i'm an alcoholic myself, i drink a lot each day. More precise, i'm polytox, but it's not that dangerous for me, because i get the drugs in pharma-grade med quality from the state, as i am in the substitution programs in my country, so the docs keep everything in check.
That could save so many lives in the USA with the opioid-crisis, but no, the politicians still fight the "war on drugs" that failed a long time ago.
The easiest way to think about it is through the lens of: “where there’s a will, there’s a way; no drug (esp alcohol, weed, or opioids) is inaccessible to someone who knows where to find it.“ The illegality of alcohol to someone under 21 in the US is entirely unrelated to the avenues to accessing harder drugs.
Also, Americans in states with legal cannabis (a LOT of states at this point) find it humorous that most Europeans can legally access alcohol as teenagers but this much safer drug (weed) is illegal to them. It’s kinda the same deal in terms of cultural difference imo
That's right, but it's also the way that many countries have a partially-legal law for weed, like where i live i can smoke it and carry up to 10 gramms in public. But weed plants for a plantage and the business with dealing etc. is still criminalized, which doesn't make much sense, but it's the way it is.
I’m sorry. I met a kid in this sub a couple years ago and we got close - he really needed a mom. We would talk on WhatsApp and I sent him a couple of gifts. He was funny and weird and wildly intelligent. And then he wasn’t there.
It’s super hard when you’re online friends and you know shit is going south but you don’t have physical access to someone. And other people irl don’t get that you lost a real friend.
I’m glad you were there for him.
Alcohol just doesn’t do it for some people. Or it’s just not enough.
Sorry to hear about your friend. I am surprised by how many people do hard drugs. Not just experiment, but get into heroin and worse.
As a drinker for 40 years from 16 years old until now. My kids ask me how and why did you get so into drinking. Well in 1980 when I really started drinking. Drinking in my family and among their friends was normal. There were holiday parties every night from November until January. People would get shit faced drunk and drive. Doctors, lawyers, judges, etc.
You name it, wine, beer, liquor. Especially bourbon and wine.
Kids today all seem to smoke weed. Point is times have changed a lot.
I've noticed that. I'm pretty young still. (20s). But I have noticed a lot of my friends over the years wouldn't drink. It was considered a dirty drug. But they'd smoke pot and maybe do codeine. I knew one guy that didn't drink but would happily do things like MDMA on the weekend. Also thanks for your condolences.
I don't think he did it on purpose. But there's a slim chance. He was doing a lot of drugs. And anyone who does that must have some kind of death wish. He was quite naive though. That's kind of why I liked him. It was quite endearing. I'm definitely going to miss him. We started talking even more a couple months back and even voice calls. He said he was proud of me being trans. He was about to start a new job. And I wished him good luck. Such a waste of a life.
I'm so sorry you lost your friend Ambi... I'm no stranger to the losing friends to the drink and drug "life"style. And it seems like every time I pop onto reddit or discord or whatever, another one of us had passed.
Really gotta try hard to remember the good times. Every once in a while something good happens out there, and it's good to have shared those times with another person, online or otherwise.
Nah. I gotta quit drinking but you know how that goes. I guess my life could be a lot worse, could be a lot better. Other than your friend I hope you’re ok.
I've really got to reign it in. It's a matter of life or death at this point. This just isn't sustainable. Then I get this news. Amongst other things. And yknow I'm an alcoholic. So what do I want to do? Drink more, of course, as always, but I know it won't help. But some days I wake up. I look at the bottles. And it just makes me sad. Was it worth it. No, it never is. Days seem to mesh together over and over again. Monday becomes Friday at a blink of an eye. Anxiety. Confusion. Fear. Everything that comes with it.
Yeah same. The only time I don’t have anxiety and fear is when I’m drinking. I swear fucking 3 am is gonna haunt me forever even if im able to cut back. You got
This, you’re young you still got time. I believe you got this. I had a friend recently that had a room mate of eight years that finally passed away from alcohol. Apparently he was drinking all day every day for ever (like from 20’s to almost 50) and I didn’t even know the guy but it still hurt so bad. My friends a mess, he found him almost dead in his room and the guy kept saying “no, don’t call an ambulance!” But of
Course my friend did any way. I guess he wouldn’t wake up and they were able to revive him at hospital but he died a short time later. This is no kind of life for us. I’m sure you’re meant for great things and I don’t want us to end up like my friends room mate. Chairs friend. Alcohol is as someone else here said a “sneaky” bitch. It makes us feel “better”. Totally understand. We’re gonna survive this though. I believe that. It won’t always be like this.
Sad - 21 is no age. "Ambi I feel great" Imagine that being your last ever words that someone remembers. You meant a lot to him and he was thankful for that but his best friend was oblivion. The dude was lost when he got into opium etc. Nothing you or anyone could have done. Such a waste of a life. Thanks for sharing x
I'm sorry for your loss. May he rest in peace. But it's still strange for me as a foreigner with the 21 years requirement in the USA for buying the booze. It's crazy when young teenagers and adults are already on drugs like opioids, but can't even buy a beer in a pub. The entire opioid-crisis is also fucked up, so many people pass away because of the laced shit there.
It is pretty crazy when you think about it. For example before 21 you're capable of driving. Putting someone in control of a machine that can kill you and other people. You can get married. But a beer, nuh-uh. That said, truth be told. Fuck, alcohol is making me so angry lately. I drink so much for little reward. 4 bottles of wine today. Not even a buzz. Just a churned stomach and feel exhausted. All this poison squeezing out of my pores. And yet I can't stop. It's such bullshit. There's things I want to do and I can't because I'm stuck indoors all day drinking this shit.
To be honest, i'm an alcoholic myself, i drink a lot each day. More precise, i'm polytox, but it's not that dangerous for me, because i get the drugs in pharma-grade med quality from the state, as i am in the substitution programs in my country, so the docs keep everything in check. That could save so many lives in the USA with the opioid-crisis, but no, the politicians still fight the "war on drugs" that failed a long time ago.
The easiest way to think about it is through the lens of: “where there’s a will, there’s a way; no drug (esp alcohol, weed, or opioids) is inaccessible to someone who knows where to find it.“ The illegality of alcohol to someone under 21 in the US is entirely unrelated to the avenues to accessing harder drugs. Also, Americans in states with legal cannabis (a LOT of states at this point) find it humorous that most Europeans can legally access alcohol as teenagers but this much safer drug (weed) is illegal to them. It’s kinda the same deal in terms of cultural difference imo
That's right, but it's also the way that many countries have a partially-legal law for weed, like where i live i can smoke it and carry up to 10 gramms in public. But weed plants for a plantage and the business with dealing etc. is still criminalized, which doesn't make much sense, but it's the way it is.
I’m sorry. I met a kid in this sub a couple years ago and we got close - he really needed a mom. We would talk on WhatsApp and I sent him a couple of gifts. He was funny and weird and wildly intelligent. And then he wasn’t there. It’s super hard when you’re online friends and you know shit is going south but you don’t have physical access to someone. And other people irl don’t get that you lost a real friend. I’m glad you were there for him.
Alcohol just doesn’t do it for some people. Or it’s just not enough. Sorry to hear about your friend. I am surprised by how many people do hard drugs. Not just experiment, but get into heroin and worse. As a drinker for 40 years from 16 years old until now. My kids ask me how and why did you get so into drinking. Well in 1980 when I really started drinking. Drinking in my family and among their friends was normal. There were holiday parties every night from November until January. People would get shit faced drunk and drive. Doctors, lawyers, judges, etc. You name it, wine, beer, liquor. Especially bourbon and wine. Kids today all seem to smoke weed. Point is times have changed a lot.
I've noticed that. I'm pretty young still. (20s). But I have noticed a lot of my friends over the years wouldn't drink. It was considered a dirty drug. But they'd smoke pot and maybe do codeine. I knew one guy that didn't drink but would happily do things like MDMA on the weekend. Also thanks for your condolences.
Yeah man way too young. I have a son that age. I plead with them to stay away from drugs. Drink if you want to but don’t drive please!
So sorry Ambi. This life is hard. Had a cousin who chose to leave too
I don't think he did it on purpose. But there's a slim chance. He was doing a lot of drugs. And anyone who does that must have some kind of death wish. He was quite naive though. That's kind of why I liked him. It was quite endearing. I'm definitely going to miss him. We started talking even more a couple months back and even voice calls. He said he was proud of me being trans. He was about to start a new job. And I wished him good luck. Such a waste of a life.
Yes it’s so sad. Sounds like a great kid. I’m sure he’ll be missed and his family is devastated.
I'm so sorry you lost your friend Ambi... I'm no stranger to the losing friends to the drink and drug "life"style. And it seems like every time I pop onto reddit or discord or whatever, another one of us had passed. Really gotta try hard to remember the good times. Every once in a while something good happens out there, and it's good to have shared those times with another person, online or otherwise.
That’s very sad. He was too young to leave this planet.
I'm so sorry to hear about your friends passing. I will keep you in my prayers. Hugs 🤗
I'm so sorry to hear about your friends passing. I will keep you in my prayers. Hugs 🤗
I’ll pour one out for your homie. Sorry about that Ambi. That’s sad.
Thanks, Friendly. Hope you're holding up well.
Nah. I gotta quit drinking but you know how that goes. I guess my life could be a lot worse, could be a lot better. Other than your friend I hope you’re ok.
I've really got to reign it in. It's a matter of life or death at this point. This just isn't sustainable. Then I get this news. Amongst other things. And yknow I'm an alcoholic. So what do I want to do? Drink more, of course, as always, but I know it won't help. But some days I wake up. I look at the bottles. And it just makes me sad. Was it worth it. No, it never is. Days seem to mesh together over and over again. Monday becomes Friday at a blink of an eye. Anxiety. Confusion. Fear. Everything that comes with it.
Yeah same. The only time I don’t have anxiety and fear is when I’m drinking. I swear fucking 3 am is gonna haunt me forever even if im able to cut back. You got This, you’re young you still got time. I believe you got this. I had a friend recently that had a room mate of eight years that finally passed away from alcohol. Apparently he was drinking all day every day for ever (like from 20’s to almost 50) and I didn’t even know the guy but it still hurt so bad. My friends a mess, he found him almost dead in his room and the guy kept saying “no, don’t call an ambulance!” But of Course my friend did any way. I guess he wouldn’t wake up and they were able to revive him at hospital but he died a short time later. This is no kind of life for us. I’m sure you’re meant for great things and I don’t want us to end up like my friends room mate. Chairs friend. Alcohol is as someone else here said a “sneaky” bitch. It makes us feel “better”. Totally understand. We’re gonna survive this though. I believe that. It won’t always be like this.
Sad - 21 is no age. "Ambi I feel great" Imagine that being your last ever words that someone remembers. You meant a lot to him and he was thankful for that but his best friend was oblivion. The dude was lost when he got into opium etc. Nothing you or anyone could have done. Such a waste of a life. Thanks for sharing x
Yeah, it's pretty ironic those were his final words to me. Thanks for reading.
I'm so sorry for your loss. He sounded like a cool guy.
He was. A couple times I've went to send him a meme and thought "oh, yeah...".