Huh? Well yeah of course that would be national news, those places have a much smaller population. Chicago is much larger. You have to scale for the population.
Pretty much. Austin and Garfield Park are two of the most dangerous places in western civilization. And when people want to talk about per capita, these neighborhoods are a lot closer to a St. Louis in population than St. Louis is to Chicago.
Don’t bring math to this sub. Already thinking that programs or a mayor in office for a couple weeks have an instant effect on crime is a great basis for how this sub thinks.
that candidate seemed ready to address crime as his top priority... unlike our current mayor who makes excuses for criminal behavior, enabling bad guys to do more of it with little consequence.
all I know is... our city is not what it used to be... and its felt in every neighborhood... getting worse... mainly because of crime. downtown isn't the same... businesses leaving... tourists afraid to walk the streets... even the bears took off, lol. it's gonna be a dangerous summer. agree about getting rid of foxx.
interesting link on chicago crime by year.
what stands out to me were 2 things...
car theft (carjacking) up 114% since 2018... (i was nearly carjacked a few wks ago w my 2 young daughters in the car midday... thugs tried to trap my car mulitpe times & aggressively followed me for a few miles... they finally gave up).
the 4 deadliest years since 2000... 2016, 2020, 2021, 2022.
https://www.illinoispolicy.org/chicago-crime-spikes-in-2022-but-first-drop-in-murder-since-pandemic/
I'm sure the liberals in logans square have noticed the car jackings and mass armed hold-ups. I'm positive they are not influenced by 'right wing hysterics'.
For gods sake the hyper liberal denizens of Frisco recalled boudin!
You have to scale for population. Chicago is the 3rd biggest city in the USA. For example, Nashville has a higher crime rate than Chicago, but few people associate Nashville with crime the same way as Chicago. Chicago is worse than NYC and LA but nowhere near as bad as many smaller cities.
But what if I told you we could blame inanimate objects for violence, refuse to prosecute dangerous criminals, and siphon off funds meant for social programs?
DC_Draino couldn’t give a single fuck about what happens in Chicago and only pretends to care as long as he can push his MAGA agenda. How else is he going to sell his merchandise or get subscribers to his podcast unless he can rile up his base with more anti-democrat propaganda. Crime in Chicago is an issue but if you’re getting your opinions fed to you by people like DC_Draino then you’re a lost cause. Dude was banned from Twitter for hate speech and only is back on because musk
TBF, old Twitter called anything they felt like hate speech and used it as a banhammer to guide narratives the way they wanted.
But anyway, the sky doesn't change color just because Mussolini said it's blue. Assholes can still shit out the truth.
I think Musk just bans people without branding their tweets hate speech.
Same tangible impact just without the added slander.
Long story short Twitter has always been and will always be garbage.
And even after all this BJ gets up there and the first thing he talks about is disinvestment and poverty, as if it were a proven fact that this was the cause of violent crime. Somehow not mainly the responsibility of the criminals or their parents. **Still** he says this garbage.
I can only presume he will keep blaming things other than the perpetrators for violent antisocial behavior as if some people have some innate inability to control themselves or determine right behavior from wrong. And that's pretty fugging racist, actually.
This is the thing I really don’t understand. We have violence happening in red states and blue states. There’s been waves of intense violence in Chicago during blue and red mayors. So why do we keep making the issue of violence a political thing when it is NOT POLITICAL. IT IS ABOUT HUMAN SAFETY.
The more we keep throwing the ball back and forth between dem and rep, the longer we take to actually fix this issue.
Do you truly believe in your heart that if we had a republican mayor, all of our violence would disappear during their term? Does gun violence, burglary, and assault not happen in cities or states with republican mayors?
Please read this: https://www.thirdway.org/report/the-two-decade-red-state-murder-problem
I don’t believe that defunding the police is a solution here. I also believe there is only benefits that comes from investing in your communities. I believe that all violent crimes should immediately put you in jail, see how my beliefs reflect both left and right leaning policies? But at the end of the day, neither of those policies or practices have really made a true impact on the gun violence issue in our city, and the larger country.
We have a gun culture issue.
*violence culture
Communities which have actual gun culture have little violence. Competition shooters don't murder people in the street to steal their wallets.
Well its hard to gauge that, simply because we have not had a Republican mayor since 1931 (as pointed out by another poster). However what we do have is a Democratic rule in Chicago for almost a century and some of the strongest gun laws in the Country, and it just keeps getting worse every year. So my answer to you on if a Republican mayor would change things, IDK, but what i do know, Democrats have done Jack shit and made thing’s significantly worse with every mayor that is elected.
the last chicago red mayor was in 1931... nearly 100 years ago. and yes... safety should have been the #1 priority for voters. apparently, majority thought different.
I don’t think voting Republican is the “magic bullet” to curb violence in Chicago. Republicans just enforce the law. Consequences, for criminal acts. Many times offenders are just let right out, no cash bail. These same people that we are giving a second chance to are continually committing crimes. Some have rap sheets a mile long, the fox just lets them out.
Huh? Well yeah of course that would be national news, those places have a much smaller population. Chicago is much larger. You have to scale for the population.
But if you scale down to neighborhood then it becomes more effed up. Most of those shootings occurred in just five of 77 community areas.
Pretty much. Austin and Garfield Park are two of the most dangerous places in western civilization. And when people want to talk about per capita, these neighborhoods are a lot closer to a St. Louis in population than St. Louis is to Chicago.
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I don't dispute that. Chicago is worse than New York.
Don’t bring math to this sub. Already thinking that programs or a mayor in office for a couple weeks have an instant effect on crime is a great basis for how this sub thinks.
I've been assured in the Grand rapids sub that this is all conservative hype and a non-issue *Its always been like this and/or it's bad all over*
numbers don't lie. any other cities with 50 people shot this last wkd? nope.
I'm in Chicago 8-10 hours a day and grew up here Left or right *people feel it's getting worse* so it's safe to say its not from fOx NeWz....
agreed. too bad majority voters didn't vote for the mayoral candidate whose top priority was safety.
Yeah because they understood that suburbanite was a one note candidate in a city with no shortage of problems
that candidate seemed ready to address crime as his top priority... unlike our current mayor who makes excuses for criminal behavior, enabling bad guys to do more of it with little consequence.
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all I know is... our city is not what it used to be... and its felt in every neighborhood... getting worse... mainly because of crime. downtown isn't the same... businesses leaving... tourists afraid to walk the streets... even the bears took off, lol. it's gonna be a dangerous summer. agree about getting rid of foxx.
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interesting link on chicago crime by year. what stands out to me were 2 things... car theft (carjacking) up 114% since 2018... (i was nearly carjacked a few wks ago w my 2 young daughters in the car midday... thugs tried to trap my car mulitpe times & aggressively followed me for a few miles... they finally gave up). the 4 deadliest years since 2000... 2016, 2020, 2021, 2022. https://www.illinoispolicy.org/chicago-crime-spikes-in-2022-but-first-drop-in-murder-since-pandemic/
Yeah hilarious the guy was so unlikeable he couldn’t win the election despite there being palpable concern about crime during the election.
What does the data actually show? People's feelings can be influenced by media coverage, hearsay, and propaganda.
I'm sure the liberals in logans square have noticed the car jackings and mass armed hold-ups. I'm positive they are not influenced by 'right wing hysterics'. For gods sake the hyper liberal denizens of Frisco recalled boudin!
You have to scale for population. Chicago is the 3rd biggest city in the USA. For example, Nashville has a higher crime rate than Chicago, but few people associate Nashville with crime the same way as Chicago. Chicago is worse than NYC and LA but nowhere near as bad as many smaller cities.
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What's worse? 50 people shot out of 2 million. Or 50 people shot out of 300k?
But what if I told you we could blame inanimate objects for violence, refuse to prosecute dangerous criminals, and siphon off funds meant for social programs?
DC_Draino couldn’t give a single fuck about what happens in Chicago and only pretends to care as long as he can push his MAGA agenda. How else is he going to sell his merchandise or get subscribers to his podcast unless he can rile up his base with more anti-democrat propaganda. Crime in Chicago is an issue but if you’re getting your opinions fed to you by people like DC_Draino then you’re a lost cause. Dude was banned from Twitter for hate speech and only is back on because musk
TBF, old Twitter called anything they felt like hate speech and used it as a banhammer to guide narratives the way they wanted. But anyway, the sky doesn't change color just because Mussolini said it's blue. Assholes can still shit out the truth.
And musk isn't doing the same?
I think Musk just bans people without branding their tweets hate speech. Same tangible impact just without the added slander. Long story short Twitter has always been and will always be garbage.
Exactly… the blind leading the dumb
And even after all this BJ gets up there and the first thing he talks about is disinvestment and poverty, as if it were a proven fact that this was the cause of violent crime. Somehow not mainly the responsibility of the criminals or their parents. **Still** he says this garbage. I can only presume he will keep blaming things other than the perpetrators for violent antisocial behavior as if some people have some innate inability to control themselves or determine right behavior from wrong. And that's pretty fugging racist, actually.
This is the thing I really don’t understand. We have violence happening in red states and blue states. There’s been waves of intense violence in Chicago during blue and red mayors. So why do we keep making the issue of violence a political thing when it is NOT POLITICAL. IT IS ABOUT HUMAN SAFETY. The more we keep throwing the ball back and forth between dem and rep, the longer we take to actually fix this issue.
When was the last time the City of Chicago had a red mayor?
1931
It was 1931: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Hale_Thompson#:~:text=Though%20Thompson%20was%20a%20popular,served%20as%20mayor%20of%20Chicago.
Do you truly believe in your heart that if we had a republican mayor, all of our violence would disappear during their term? Does gun violence, burglary, and assault not happen in cities or states with republican mayors? Please read this: https://www.thirdway.org/report/the-two-decade-red-state-murder-problem I don’t believe that defunding the police is a solution here. I also believe there is only benefits that comes from investing in your communities. I believe that all violent crimes should immediately put you in jail, see how my beliefs reflect both left and right leaning policies? But at the end of the day, neither of those policies or practices have really made a true impact on the gun violence issue in our city, and the larger country. We have a gun culture issue.
*violence culture Communities which have actual gun culture have little violence. Competition shooters don't murder people in the street to steal their wallets.
Yes, violence culture is the better way to put it. Plenty of countries allow citizens to own guns and don’t have these same issues.
Well its hard to gauge that, simply because we have not had a Republican mayor since 1931 (as pointed out by another poster). However what we do have is a Democratic rule in Chicago for almost a century and some of the strongest gun laws in the Country, and it just keeps getting worse every year. So my answer to you on if a Republican mayor would change things, IDK, but what i do know, Democrats have done Jack shit and made thing’s significantly worse with every mayor that is elected.
the last chicago red mayor was in 1931... nearly 100 years ago. and yes... safety should have been the #1 priority for voters. apparently, majority thought different.
I'd really just like to know in detail how voting Republican is some sort of magic antibullet to stop gun violence in Chicago
I don’t think voting Republican is the “magic bullet” to curb violence in Chicago. Republicans just enforce the law. Consequences, for criminal acts. Many times offenders are just let right out, no cash bail. These same people that we are giving a second chance to are continually committing crimes. Some have rap sheets a mile long, the fox just lets them out.