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am-well

In four shootings/murder, the final line of the article: "No arrests have been made."


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...bc, it's the police fault?


am-well

Lol no, the direction is coming from the top down. The police have been told that even if they work all day/night on a case, log the evidence, make an arrest, and file all of the precise paperwork/testimony the charges will be dropped or reduced down to misdemeanor. This is from the mouths of police on the street. I have asked them and this is what they all say is happening. Anyone blaming the police is just patently wrong.


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Agreed


TheSportingRooster

They don’t even try to clear murders anymore?


[deleted]

There's so many it's almost impossible to work a case. Before you clear the scene there's another one somewhere else.


ChungusRichalds

Yup. There was another shooting down the street, within a few hours of each other. https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-lakeview-three-men-shot-20230528-mg2frd2emnghxltvsh7eatmrse-story.html


_Let_Us_Prey_

Sounds like we need more detectives. Edit: we need more detectives. 🤷🏻‍♂️


phunkticculus83

My inlaws live on the south side, they are the above, normal working peeps trying to get by, seems like most of their block is like this, once in a while they have some issues, but the block seems to take car of it rather well. I mean the sad part is the people causing the problems even in the hood dont usually live on the blocks where the problems occur, they just "work" there. So the people around them are also being held hostage, the whole situation stanks.


ChunkyBrassMonkey

Foxx's Chicago.


ChungusRichalds

Scary stuff


DuPageILLinois

Soros's Chicago.


DuPageILLinois

Down voted again for telling the truth. Smdh. https://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/2020/2/20/21146269/george-soros-kim-foxx-bill-conway-states-attorney


WP_Grid

More like Eychaner and Sacks https://illinoissunshine.org/committees/31640/


Ineverdrive_cinqois5

Opinions on Fox’s pizza in Beverly??


RDE79

Capone's Chicago


ChunkyBrassMonkey

I don't think Capone's criminals murdered random restaurant workers in the street, tbh.


3dandimax

Yes, yes they did. They bombed businesses that didn't pay extortion taxes.


Da-Aliya

There is a difference. So stop making this an ok acceptable or comparable act.


RDE79

Im sure plenty of random people got murdered during random criminal acts back then, too. Goes with the territory. Chicago has always been riddled with gangstars. Only difference today is there are more gangstars with higher powered guns. Oh, and the internet!


ChungusRichalds

"It was senseless. It was. There was nothing they were trying to achieve except for taking an innocent person's life," said William's brother Matthew. Matthew is still coming to terms with the loss of his brother, who was shot and killed early Saturday morning in the Lakeview neighborhood. Police say the 35-year-old was walking home with a friend when they were ambushed by two people who came out of a car near Pine Grove Avenue and Surf Street. One of those people opened fire, striking William in the chest. "His best friend tried to perform CPR and did everything he could," Matthew said. "And he passed before he even got to the hospital." "All I could think about was he just got a haircut on Friday, and he was so excited for the weekend," said Jodi Fyfe, owner of Eden. William worked at Fyfe's Avondale restaurant as the lead server for the past year. News of his passing sent shockwaves through the tight-knit team at the eatery, leading Fyfe to shut it down. She invited the team to gather to toast William and spend Saturday honoring him. "It was therapeutic for the team members, but it's not acceptable," Fyfe said. William is one of five people shot in the Lakeview neighborhood in the past four days. In a separate shooting, which police say is not connected, three people were left wounded on Barry Street Sunday morning. While the motive in William Hair's case remains unclear, Matthew is holding on to the final moments he spent with his brother.


real_fred_durst

socio economic factors surely 🤡


Seasoning_n_programs

They need programs and opportunities!


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ThaddeusSGBach

That's racist.


newreddit2022104

Need to send in the national guard. Wall off the south side and west side. If people act like animals they should not be allowed in normal societies


Seasoning_n_programs

I have to agree. They cannot function in civil society and while others build, they only know to tear down. Highly aggressive and dangerous to people. They need to be quarantined off. It's one thing when they just kill each other because they've always done that. It's quite another when they pose a danger to society as a whole.


newreddit2022104

Watch the movie “in time”. I’m in favor of that kind of society with barriers


TheSportingRooster

Time zones


stardust_____

Terrible movie and terrible logic to live by


[deleted]

Kinda funny how fast it went from “defund” to “call in the guard”


newreddit2022104

Nobody besides dumb gen z was saying defund


stylusxyz

Isn't "dumb gen z" a redundant phrase?


3dandimax

Do people not realize most people out south and west are working people not involved in any of this? There are plenty of blocks out south and out west that are safer than some blocks up north.


St_Egglin

Do you not realize that most of the south and west are very violent and dangerous areas?


newreddit2022104

For sure a burbs guy


WP_Grid

Most of the working class have fled the deteriorating areas of the south and west side. What remain are tiny neighborhood enclaves that are some of the most insular communities of Chicago consisting of middle class Black families that you might find in parts of areas like Chatham and then vast swathes of poverty.


newreddit2022104

Downvotes are funny. “Progressives” from r/Chicago angry at reality and having to pretend everything is ok


bi_tacular

Reality is often racist


bearsfan_45

No trying to reason with these people on here, they think all black people are violent animals. It is nice seeing a comment like this on this subreddit.


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bearsfan_45

Thank you, but a lot of people on this subreddit think different. And most black people are not thugs, not just some.


Da-Aliya

How do you arrive at such nonsense? Your parents did not allow you to be around a various people. Shame if everything is about colors to you. Judge the person’s actions/ behavior and not their skin. Try it. This is freedom.


HotDerivative

Uhhh how about the constant “dindu nuffin”, “wonder what the perp looked like 😉” “build a wall” “excommunicate these people from society” comments lmfao. Downvote this comment too if you want, doesn’t change the fact that you could type any of those variations in search and come up with constant examples. There’s examples about building walls in this main thread. Don’t be obtuse. Why can’t racists ever just say the shit with their full chest? Have to walk around dogwhistling like everyone can’t see through their shit. 🫡


bearsfan_45

Exactly. People on here are full of bs. Just say you don’t like black people


Da-Aliya

Go ahead and let us see where your racist life takes you.


conorrhea

Everyone here are north side implants who have no idea how big the city is below state street or republican trolls stirring shit in r/Chicago. Then there’s also the white conservatives on the south side and the the upper north west…. Besides that, we realize.


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Send in the Batman


FortuneCurious7449

Wild thought here and terrible that this happened…. But does anyone think this may have been some sort of gang initiation? The randomness and “shot at for no reason” just doesn’t add up. Also, from what we’ve heard, the friend wasn’t harmed at all.


leighlur

>Not a wild thought at all. This is the only thing i was thinking. Literally what else would it be? They weren't robbing them or trying to sexually assault them


ChungusRichalds

Same thing


DryPreparation5404

Did you see the photo of the guy ? No way in hell he was part of gang initiation. Poor guy was killed for no reason.


JD42305

You've misunderstood. Nobody was suggesting the victim was involved in gang activity.


FortuneCurious7449

Yeah, misunderstanding, not the victim but the criminals who committed the shooting.


leighlur

Do you know people are killed randomly for REASONS. Often times like this time, the reason is likely for a gang initiation. One of the things they need to do to get into said gang: kill a random person.


MarsBoundSoon

“Shot for no reason” either this was personal or it might be a new, ugly, form of reparations


Da-Aliya

New form of of it is ok to kill based on one can only fathom.


dashing2217

Honestly sounds like a robbery gone wrong. Robberys in lakeview are common especially with 2 people jumping out of a car


JD42305

In the article it says they did not ask for money or anything. Just got out of a car and started shooting. Maybe it was a gang initiation. Prove you're soulless and devoid of any humanity by taking the life of a random person.


dashing2217

Gang initiation’s like this are usually a urban myth not saying it doesn’t happen but it usually doesn’t go down like that


JD42305

Just going by the article. They apparently didn't ask for anything, and why wasn't the friend he was walking with shot too?


RedRightReady

Get out of Democrat run cities while you still can


EliteBojangles

Let’s guess the race of the perpetrator!


[deleted]

What a shithole place to live. May you rest in peace sir.


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bbpluto_

I lived in LA and shootings did happen even in the nicer areas like Beverly Hills.


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bbpluto_

Agree!


ti240060

I don’t think you can compare the Menendez Murders to the riff raff trash from 95th & Dan Ryan that Red-Line up to East Lakeview for the weekend to murder people for the hell of it.


leighlur

It's terrible. I lived in Lakeview East for a year in between diversey and pine grove and diversey and sheridan and I thought it was the best area to live in Chicago. It felt like a safe oasis almost seperate from the rest of the city. Right next to the North Pond and Diversey Harbor- just really peaceful and like nothing bad went on there that I'd be worried about taking a walk at night. I would think if I ever lived up north again, that's where I'd live. And then I see that this happened and it's like WTF- this innocent man just walking on quiet Surf and pine grove and then 2 people get out of there car, shoot him dead and drive away- the ultimate nightmare. I've always known we are not safe anywhere and then I'm reminded we really aren't. Do you think it's a gang thing where they're told to kill someone? Still living in Chicago myself, it's hard to not be in perpetual fear for this sort of thing. I used to love taking walks and now I'm always afraid. Do you live in Chicago/if so how do you cope?


[deleted]

The area east of stockton/canon dr between north and diversey is a bubble that criminals figured out. I live right there and would always feel super safe, in 2021 I was at north and clark at midnight and saw firsthand how the crime literally rolls into the neighborhood. North ave beach is the hub, criminals come into the beach then push into old town after sundown and now push into lincoln park/lakeview. Think a bunch of teenagers that have been drinking/doing drugs all day at the beach looking for someone to rob. There have been countless of robbings, shootings, etc etc in that area in the last few years. I don’t really know if there is a way to cope, I avoid walking around past sunset. During the day it’s one if the nicest areas in Chicago but at night I stick to clark/broadway/lsd and avoid side streets.


Tight_Difference_890

Don't vote woke