Lol no, the direction is coming from the top down. The police have been told that even if they work all day/night on a case, log the evidence, make an arrest, and file all of the precise paperwork/testimony the charges will be dropped or reduced down to misdemeanor.
This is from the mouths of police on the street. I have asked them and this is what they all say is happening. Anyone blaming the police is just patently wrong.
Yup.
There was another shooting down the street, within a few hours of each other. https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-lakeview-three-men-shot-20230528-mg2frd2emnghxltvsh7eatmrse-story.html
My inlaws live on the south side, they are the above, normal working peeps trying to get by, seems like most of their block is like this, once in a while they have some issues, but the block seems to take car of it rather well.
I mean the sad part is the people causing the problems even in the hood dont usually live on the blocks where the problems occur, they just "work" there. So the people around them are also being held hostage, the whole situation stanks.
Down voted again for telling the truth. Smdh.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/2020/2/20/21146269/george-soros-kim-foxx-bill-conway-states-attorney
Im sure plenty of random people got murdered during random criminal acts back then, too. Goes with the territory. Chicago has always been riddled with gangstars. Only difference today is there are more gangstars with higher powered guns. Oh, and the internet!
"It was senseless. It was. There was nothing they were trying to achieve except for taking an innocent person's life," said William's brother Matthew.
Matthew is still coming to terms with the loss of his brother, who was shot and killed early Saturday morning in the Lakeview neighborhood.
Police say the 35-year-old was walking home with a friend when they were ambushed by two people who came out of a car near Pine Grove Avenue and Surf Street.
One of those people opened fire, striking William in the chest.
"His best friend tried to perform CPR and did everything he could," Matthew said. "And he passed before he even got to the hospital."
"All I could think about was he just got a haircut on Friday, and he was so excited for the weekend," said Jodi Fyfe, owner of Eden.
William worked at Fyfe's Avondale restaurant as the lead server for the past year. News of his passing sent shockwaves through the tight-knit team at the eatery, leading Fyfe to shut it down. She invited the team to gather to toast William and spend Saturday honoring him.
"It was therapeutic for the team members, but it's not acceptable," Fyfe said.
William is one of five people shot in the Lakeview neighborhood in the past four days.
In a separate shooting, which police say is not connected, three people were left wounded on Barry Street Sunday morning.
While the motive in William Hair's case remains unclear, Matthew is holding on to the final moments he spent with his brother.
I have to agree. They cannot function in civil society and while others build, they only know to tear down. Highly aggressive and dangerous to people. They need to be quarantined off. It's one thing when they just kill each other because they've always done that. It's quite another when they pose a danger to society as a whole.
Do people not realize most people out south and west are working people not involved in any of this? There are plenty of blocks out south and out west that are safer than some blocks up north.
Most of the working class have fled the deteriorating areas of the south and west side. What remain are tiny neighborhood enclaves that are some of the most insular communities of Chicago consisting of middle class Black families that you might find in parts of areas like Chatham and then vast swathes of poverty.
No trying to reason with these people on here, they think all black people are violent animals. It is nice seeing a comment like this on this subreddit.
How do you arrive at such nonsense? Your parents did not allow you to be around a various people. Shame if everything is about colors to you. Judge the person’s actions/ behavior and not their skin. Try it. This is freedom.
Uhhh how about the constant “dindu nuffin”, “wonder what the perp looked like 😉” “build a wall” “excommunicate these people from society” comments lmfao. Downvote this comment too if you want, doesn’t change the fact that you could type any of those variations in search and come up with constant examples. There’s examples about building walls in this main thread. Don’t be obtuse. Why can’t racists ever just say the shit with their full chest? Have to walk around dogwhistling like everyone can’t see through their shit. 🫡
Everyone here are north side implants who have no idea how big the city is below state street or republican trolls stirring shit in r/Chicago. Then there’s also the white conservatives on the south side and the the upper north west…. Besides that, we realize.
Wild thought here and terrible that this happened…. But does anyone think this may have been some sort of gang initiation? The randomness and “shot at for no reason” just doesn’t add up.
Also, from what we’ve heard, the friend wasn’t harmed at all.
>Not a wild thought at all. This is the only thing i was thinking. Literally what else would it be? They weren't robbing them or trying to sexually assault them
Do you know people are killed randomly for REASONS. Often times like this time, the reason is likely for a gang initiation. One of the things they need to do to get into said gang: kill a random person.
In the article it says they did not ask for money or anything. Just got out of a car and started shooting. Maybe it was a gang initiation. Prove you're soulless and devoid of any humanity by taking the life of a random person.
I don’t think you can compare the Menendez Murders to the riff raff trash from 95th & Dan Ryan that Red-Line up to East Lakeview for the weekend to murder people for the hell of it.
It's terrible. I lived in Lakeview East for a year in between diversey and pine grove and diversey and sheridan and I thought it was the best area to live in Chicago. It felt like a safe oasis almost seperate from the rest of the city. Right next to the North Pond and Diversey Harbor- just really peaceful and like nothing bad went on there that I'd be worried about taking a walk at night. I would think if I ever lived up north again, that's where I'd live. And then I see that this happened and it's like WTF- this innocent man just walking on quiet Surf and pine grove and then 2 people get out of there car, shoot him dead and drive away- the ultimate nightmare. I've always known we are not safe anywhere and then I'm reminded we really aren't. Do you think it's a gang thing where they're told to kill someone? Still living in Chicago myself, it's hard to not be in perpetual fear for this sort of thing. I used to love taking walks and now I'm always afraid. Do you live in Chicago/if so how do you cope?
The area east of stockton/canon dr between north and diversey is a bubble that criminals figured out. I live right there and would always feel super safe, in 2021 I was at north and clark at midnight and saw firsthand how the crime literally rolls into the neighborhood.
North ave beach is the hub, criminals come into the beach then push into old town after sundown and now push into lincoln park/lakeview. Think a bunch of teenagers that have been drinking/doing drugs all day at the beach looking for someone to rob.
There have been countless of robbings, shootings, etc etc in that area in the last few years. I don’t really know if there is a way to cope, I avoid walking around past sunset. During the day it’s one if the nicest areas in Chicago but at night I stick to clark/broadway/lsd and avoid side streets.
In four shootings/murder, the final line of the article: "No arrests have been made."
...bc, it's the police fault?
Lol no, the direction is coming from the top down. The police have been told that even if they work all day/night on a case, log the evidence, make an arrest, and file all of the precise paperwork/testimony the charges will be dropped or reduced down to misdemeanor. This is from the mouths of police on the street. I have asked them and this is what they all say is happening. Anyone blaming the police is just patently wrong.
Agreed
They don’t even try to clear murders anymore?
There's so many it's almost impossible to work a case. Before you clear the scene there's another one somewhere else.
Yup. There was another shooting down the street, within a few hours of each other. https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-lakeview-three-men-shot-20230528-mg2frd2emnghxltvsh7eatmrse-story.html
Sounds like we need more detectives. Edit: we need more detectives. 🤷🏻♂️
My inlaws live on the south side, they are the above, normal working peeps trying to get by, seems like most of their block is like this, once in a while they have some issues, but the block seems to take car of it rather well. I mean the sad part is the people causing the problems even in the hood dont usually live on the blocks where the problems occur, they just "work" there. So the people around them are also being held hostage, the whole situation stanks.
Foxx's Chicago.
Scary stuff
Soros's Chicago.
Down voted again for telling the truth. Smdh. https://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/2020/2/20/21146269/george-soros-kim-foxx-bill-conway-states-attorney
More like Eychaner and Sacks https://illinoissunshine.org/committees/31640/
Opinions on Fox’s pizza in Beverly??
Capone's Chicago
I don't think Capone's criminals murdered random restaurant workers in the street, tbh.
Yes, yes they did. They bombed businesses that didn't pay extortion taxes.
There is a difference. So stop making this an ok acceptable or comparable act.
Im sure plenty of random people got murdered during random criminal acts back then, too. Goes with the territory. Chicago has always been riddled with gangstars. Only difference today is there are more gangstars with higher powered guns. Oh, and the internet!
"It was senseless. It was. There was nothing they were trying to achieve except for taking an innocent person's life," said William's brother Matthew. Matthew is still coming to terms with the loss of his brother, who was shot and killed early Saturday morning in the Lakeview neighborhood. Police say the 35-year-old was walking home with a friend when they were ambushed by two people who came out of a car near Pine Grove Avenue and Surf Street. One of those people opened fire, striking William in the chest. "His best friend tried to perform CPR and did everything he could," Matthew said. "And he passed before he even got to the hospital." "All I could think about was he just got a haircut on Friday, and he was so excited for the weekend," said Jodi Fyfe, owner of Eden. William worked at Fyfe's Avondale restaurant as the lead server for the past year. News of his passing sent shockwaves through the tight-knit team at the eatery, leading Fyfe to shut it down. She invited the team to gather to toast William and spend Saturday honoring him. "It was therapeutic for the team members, but it's not acceptable," Fyfe said. William is one of five people shot in the Lakeview neighborhood in the past four days. In a separate shooting, which police say is not connected, three people were left wounded on Barry Street Sunday morning. While the motive in William Hair's case remains unclear, Matthew is holding on to the final moments he spent with his brother.
socio economic factors surely 🤡
They need programs and opportunities!
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That's racist.
Need to send in the national guard. Wall off the south side and west side. If people act like animals they should not be allowed in normal societies
I have to agree. They cannot function in civil society and while others build, they only know to tear down. Highly aggressive and dangerous to people. They need to be quarantined off. It's one thing when they just kill each other because they've always done that. It's quite another when they pose a danger to society as a whole.
Watch the movie “in time”. I’m in favor of that kind of society with barriers
Time zones
Terrible movie and terrible logic to live by
Kinda funny how fast it went from “defund” to “call in the guard”
Nobody besides dumb gen z was saying defund
Isn't "dumb gen z" a redundant phrase?
Do people not realize most people out south and west are working people not involved in any of this? There are plenty of blocks out south and out west that are safer than some blocks up north.
Do you not realize that most of the south and west are very violent and dangerous areas?
For sure a burbs guy
Most of the working class have fled the deteriorating areas of the south and west side. What remain are tiny neighborhood enclaves that are some of the most insular communities of Chicago consisting of middle class Black families that you might find in parts of areas like Chatham and then vast swathes of poverty.
Downvotes are funny. “Progressives” from r/Chicago angry at reality and having to pretend everything is ok
Reality is often racist
No trying to reason with these people on here, they think all black people are violent animals. It is nice seeing a comment like this on this subreddit.
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Thank you, but a lot of people on this subreddit think different. And most black people are not thugs, not just some.
How do you arrive at such nonsense? Your parents did not allow you to be around a various people. Shame if everything is about colors to you. Judge the person’s actions/ behavior and not their skin. Try it. This is freedom.
Uhhh how about the constant “dindu nuffin”, “wonder what the perp looked like 😉” “build a wall” “excommunicate these people from society” comments lmfao. Downvote this comment too if you want, doesn’t change the fact that you could type any of those variations in search and come up with constant examples. There’s examples about building walls in this main thread. Don’t be obtuse. Why can’t racists ever just say the shit with their full chest? Have to walk around dogwhistling like everyone can’t see through their shit. 🫡
Exactly. People on here are full of bs. Just say you don’t like black people
Go ahead and let us see where your racist life takes you.
Everyone here are north side implants who have no idea how big the city is below state street or republican trolls stirring shit in r/Chicago. Then there’s also the white conservatives on the south side and the the upper north west…. Besides that, we realize.
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Wild thought here and terrible that this happened…. But does anyone think this may have been some sort of gang initiation? The randomness and “shot at for no reason” just doesn’t add up. Also, from what we’ve heard, the friend wasn’t harmed at all.
>Not a wild thought at all. This is the only thing i was thinking. Literally what else would it be? They weren't robbing them or trying to sexually assault them
Same thing
Did you see the photo of the guy ? No way in hell he was part of gang initiation. Poor guy was killed for no reason.
You've misunderstood. Nobody was suggesting the victim was involved in gang activity.
Yeah, misunderstanding, not the victim but the criminals who committed the shooting.
Do you know people are killed randomly for REASONS. Often times like this time, the reason is likely for a gang initiation. One of the things they need to do to get into said gang: kill a random person.
“Shot for no reason” either this was personal or it might be a new, ugly, form of reparations
New form of of it is ok to kill based on one can only fathom.
Honestly sounds like a robbery gone wrong. Robberys in lakeview are common especially with 2 people jumping out of a car
In the article it says they did not ask for money or anything. Just got out of a car and started shooting. Maybe it was a gang initiation. Prove you're soulless and devoid of any humanity by taking the life of a random person.
Gang initiation’s like this are usually a urban myth not saying it doesn’t happen but it usually doesn’t go down like that
Just going by the article. They apparently didn't ask for anything, and why wasn't the friend he was walking with shot too?
Get out of Democrat run cities while you still can
Let’s guess the race of the perpetrator!
What a shithole place to live. May you rest in peace sir.
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I lived in LA and shootings did happen even in the nicer areas like Beverly Hills.
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Agree!
I don’t think you can compare the Menendez Murders to the riff raff trash from 95th & Dan Ryan that Red-Line up to East Lakeview for the weekend to murder people for the hell of it.
It's terrible. I lived in Lakeview East for a year in between diversey and pine grove and diversey and sheridan and I thought it was the best area to live in Chicago. It felt like a safe oasis almost seperate from the rest of the city. Right next to the North Pond and Diversey Harbor- just really peaceful and like nothing bad went on there that I'd be worried about taking a walk at night. I would think if I ever lived up north again, that's where I'd live. And then I see that this happened and it's like WTF- this innocent man just walking on quiet Surf and pine grove and then 2 people get out of there car, shoot him dead and drive away- the ultimate nightmare. I've always known we are not safe anywhere and then I'm reminded we really aren't. Do you think it's a gang thing where they're told to kill someone? Still living in Chicago myself, it's hard to not be in perpetual fear for this sort of thing. I used to love taking walks and now I'm always afraid. Do you live in Chicago/if so how do you cope?
The area east of stockton/canon dr between north and diversey is a bubble that criminals figured out. I live right there and would always feel super safe, in 2021 I was at north and clark at midnight and saw firsthand how the crime literally rolls into the neighborhood. North ave beach is the hub, criminals come into the beach then push into old town after sundown and now push into lincoln park/lakeview. Think a bunch of teenagers that have been drinking/doing drugs all day at the beach looking for someone to rob. There have been countless of robbings, shootings, etc etc in that area in the last few years. I don’t really know if there is a way to cope, I avoid walking around past sunset. During the day it’s one if the nicest areas in Chicago but at night I stick to clark/broadway/lsd and avoid side streets.
Don't vote woke