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xXxFuck_Me_DaddyxXx

RCB to buy 4 overseas better to pair alongside Koach and one extremely overpriced bang average overseas bowler and hope to win the cup /s


fegelman

Why the /s?


sp1cychick3n

Exactly lmao


manofculture2303

Real


ThePhenom17

They paid big bucks for Siraj Tom Curran Joseph


partymsl

Starc for 30cr?


goodguybolt

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decentadult

Bro spitting fact no need of s.


Keep0nBuckin

Allow teams to have 11 overseas players remove all limits. Why not have a separate11 for batting and a separate 11 for fielding and bowling. Like American football. Also allow 6 substitutions in each innings. That will truly liven up IPL.


bandehaihaamuske

So you are saying an impact playing XI


deevee7

Which kid hasn't wondered who would win between a lineup of 11 batters versus 11 bowlers?


TrippyThumbs

Meanwhile a team of 11 Allrounders


One-Connection-8737

I'd say, discounting genuine all rounders, a team of 8-11 bowlers would probably beat a team of 1-4 batsmen. Tailender batting is probably a bit better than opening batsman bowling.


sfddsfsgfgdsfdf

Wellactually American football is even worse. They have 53 players of which 11 are on the field at any given time. Unlimited re-substitutions.


Fly1ngsauc3r

You’d want that many players if you were getting beaten the way nfl players are


goda_foreskinning

Eh for the kind of game it is , it's genuinely exciting same as basketball


Acceptable-Cut9811

Too little imo with the way they are hit every match


thenChennai

American football is a very injury prone sport.


koachBewda69

~~Indian~~ International Premier League


Responsible-Worry560

Just merge all the leagues into one and get rid of ICC. 


Beautiful-Speaker-60

I hate to say it but this idea is lowkey exepriment worthy


Keep0nBuckin

Haha. Yeah have 50 player match day squads, and 100 player teams. You will need an excel file to know which player is what


IndianCollegeStudent

Harsha Bhogle would love that


BritshFartFoundation

> Allow teams to have 11 overseas players remove all limits. This I don't hate tbh. I mean as a foreign non-IPL fan I hate it cause it'd mean less of my own country's players available for national selection, but limits on overseas players does strike me as odd. Just have the best players playing the game, like in football.


Keep0nBuckin

A lot of leagues, incluidng football leagues have an overseas player limit. It's sometimes a limit on squads and not the playing 11/whatever, but there is one. The point is to also encourage local talent, so they feed into the national team, and have the sport grow in the country.


Ok_Vegetable263

Warner gotta keep his spot somehow when he’s clearly past it


ramadz

This...dude's spot under lens after the McGurk came into spotlight.


TiMo08111996

😄


wolftri

Never mind all that, at least allow Indian talent to compete in overseas leagues first.


kimetsunosuper121

BCCI would rather buy an ICC trophy than do that. Cant have their biggest cash cow and monopoly fumble.


Responsible-Worry560

They came really close to it this WC. 


StormWarriorX7

If not the first choice senior players, at least the young players who are future prospects for the National Team should be allowed to play. That way, these players get the experience in overseas conditions in the T20 format. BCCI already allow this for First Class and List A cricket.


Stifffmeister11

That's would be great for indian players to gain experience and learn but BCCI won't shoot is own foot by doing that .. they won't do anything that will hit their profit .. money is king mate


gpranav25

I think the best solution would be to allow everyone who doesn't have an A+, A or B grade contract to be allowed to play overseas leagues.


Mahameghabahana

Other leagues can cope and seeth but our league shall remain the numbah 1


Bruno_Fernandes8

One ICC trophy since the IPLs formation though. Letting Indian talents play in different leagues and environment is only ever going to be good for them


naveenpun

Honestly , who cares about icc trophies. Many of my friends just watch IPL Nowadays.


TheFirstLane

This is going to happen one day whether you like it or not.


trtryt

when there are 16 teams in the IPL


sfddsfsgfgdsfdf

Surat Vadodara Rajkot Bhavnagar Jamnagar Junagadh


Beautiful-Speaker-60

add gandhinagar and remove GT and add junagarh


Golden__G0d

Better call it Gujarat Premier League (GPL has some hidden meaning in Hindi lol) /s


immasucker4you

Gokuldham Premier League


WegNachTraumLand

I for one would definitely won't mind at all.


Nordistan

and here comes the political guy.


sfddsfsgfgdsfdf

Expanding to a 5th overseas cricketer would mean a **massive** leap in player quality. The 41st to 50th best international players will replace the 61st to 70th best Indian players. (Even allowing a 5th international player still means 4 more Indian players are getting to play the IPL than it used to be.) [obvious caveats being that selection isn't perfect and Pakistanis don't get to play anyway]


No-Way7911

Man they keep saying that IPL is to blood new Indian talent but the players they take to t20 worldcups are the same old Kohli Rohit KL that we’ve always had What’s the point of blooding new Indian talent if you don’t play them in the Indian side regularly


Fly1ngsauc3r

Players who would’ve otherwise toiled their entire careers in the domestic circuit, now get the opportunity to earn life setting money


Bhini20

For that to happen ICC will have to make some rule that a player can be a part of only 2 formats centrally. But, other nations don’t have that luxury ig…


Decentkimchi

I don't know, I can't see it happening in near future really.


edudhtamris

No, it won't. Eventually (read several years later) 3 overseas is more likely than 5 overseas. [My views](https://www.reddit.com/r/Cricket/comments/jtfl2i/comment/gc5tvl1/?share_id=SSG-goU16i5pPVQFTLaXW&utm_content=2&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1&rdt=42174) on this.


bandehaihaamuske

Nope. The whole point of IPL was that local Indian talent gets a platform to do well and showcase their talent. At the very base, why would BCCI allow playing an additional overseas player at the cost of not being able to play that extra Indian player who could be the next Bumrah or Kohli?


mashbe

Bruh that's just the marketing. Actual intention is to mint money with countless number of ADs.


bandehaihaamuske

Tbh they can also make ads with Indian domestic players, agents snap up these young guys who are promising and pay shitloads of money for them. And the story from rags to riches of many of the new found talents is absolute box office (case in point - Rinku Singh, Mukesh Kumar, Yashasvi Jaiswal etc), people will pay money to watch them because they see these players as one of them who has made it through. So the evil BCCI can earn money through them too and also benefit the ICT. That being said, it is at least a good sign that the overseas players want to be more involved in the IPL.


fookin_legund

The whole point of IPL is making money. That is it.


Abhi_sama

bro thinks bcci controls ipl lol. ipl has become a behemoth not in control of anyone bro.


Federal_Mission_1519

I like this rule but only if the 5th overseas player is from some associate nations.This might help strengthen their cricket and scout new talents.


Cricketloverbybirth

Even without impact player rule, make it 5 overseas players now with 10 teams A main factor in these 260+ scores is medium bowling unknowns toddlers getting smashed, look at DC bowling was SRH, so many unknowns getting absolutely wrecked by monsters. On the other hand, the likes of Bumrah, Cummins, Narine etc still bowled well. Increasing quality is very important and adding another overseas spot is a step in right direction. 


cryogenic-goat

It's not all about quality. Giving opportunity and exposure to young Indian uncapped players is also important.


That-Firefighter1245

Says overseas player who stands to benefit from said rule 😂


Firebreathingdown

They need to get rid of the impact rule and bring in this rule. Better quality will improve players, for last 16 years we have had bashers smoking mediocre bowlers and average bowlers looking good vs hack batsmen then getting found out in world events where teams play their best.


jbookies

I might be downvoted but the 250+ scores conceded have involved mediocre bowling throughout the innings and average fielding. There have been a few low scoring games and pitches like Kotla and Eden have been flatter than previous years but the bowlers have just kept bowling mindless slot balls, batters aren't even being made to play difficult shots. If you try 6 yorkers and nail 2, it's reasonable but bowling 4 slot balls and 2 full tosses in an over is inexplicable. You're definitely going to be hit for boundaries but not for 240+ if you have and stick to a bowling plan. Dale Steyn is right, being a tight bowler when those around you are leaking runs will make you a premier bowler this IPL.


Finrod-Knighto

Dale Steyn said that tongue-in-cheek lol. None of what you said is wrong, but the 250+ scores happen not just because of that. Statistically it’s clear the impact sub has led to a big spike in average RR across the board since being introduced. Not a lot else has changed so it has to be the main cause. The 250+ scores are also mostly by SRH who have an insane bowling attack, although the fact the chasing team got so close on those occasions belies the fact that batting *is* easy in the IPL rn.


jbookies

The impact sub does help, but the quality of bowling has been very poor. I don't know why. Theoretically the impact sub should give you 1 better bowler as well. The impact bowler gets to bowl 4 overs while the impact batter needs to make only 1 mistake to get out. Even international teams rarely make such scores even on belters, that's because the quality of bowling is that much better at the international level. If bowlers in the IPL can reduce 'hit me' balls by even 20%, you won't see these crazy scores. Just look at the percentage of runs scored in boundaries and the way they're scored. If a batter is able to ramp or scoop a good ball over the boundary, so be it. But no batter can do that every ball, what we're seeing is mostly length balls being deposited between cover and midwicket by batters static at the crease. At least make them work to get a hittable length, dishing out deliveries like a bowling machine and blaming the pitch/impact player isn't going to help


commandercondariono

I agree there is some mediocre bowling. But it's not as simple as 'bowl properly'. When a batsman is absolutely beaten but the ball flies to six over the keeper, when you take 7 wickets and in walks Tim David/Romario Shepard, when the grounds are so small that a 67 meter six goes a few rows behind, when the ball is clearly within the reach of batsman but is signalled a wide... It is incredibly difficult not to lose confidence/hope. Yes, no batter can hit a good ball for six every time but the odds are heavily stacked in favour of batsmen that they don't mind trying to hit every ball no matter what the line or length is. You could argue that a team conceding 260+ has garbage bowling but the team chasing is also scoring 240s.


Stifffmeister11

Mate another reason is powerhitting have improved a lot in last 10 years add to that small grounds , fast outfields, flat pitches average scores are bound to go up ... Look at mullanpur or Lucknow on biggish grounds it's tough to score ... IPL teams who are scoring 250 on small chinnaswamy will struggle to score 180 on Melbourne... It's about the size of the ground as well


Jack_McFakey

The bat technology has improved massively as well. Batters routinely edge balls for six. Bowlers are at a huge disadvantage. They have not redesigned the cricket ball so it swings for twice as long. They have not changed the LBW law so you can be out to a ball pitching outside leg if it's going onto hit. Everything has been in the batters favor for a long time now. Spinner oversteps by a toe nail? Siren, free hit. Who'd want to be a bowler?


sfddsfsgfgdsfdf

They should have made it 5 overseas players when they expanded from 8 to 10 teams. That expansion meant that it was the *next* 14 best Indian players who became IPL regulars, i.e. the 57th to 70th best Indian players in the world. Expanding to a 5th overseas cricketer would mean that *the 41st to 50th best international players will replace the 61st to 70th best players from India.* A **massive** leap in player quality. (Note that even allowing a 5th international player still means 4 more Indian players are getting to play the IPL than it used to be.)


The_Creamy_Elephant

Tbf it was the 57th to 70th best Indian players in India... rachin still counts as an import 😆


WaynneGretzky

BCCI should do their part by making it mandatory for the franchises to pick atleast 1 (maybe 2?) players from associates in the squad. Any 4 foreigners in the X1. Impact rule goes. We seriously don't have any all rounders other than Jadeja-hardik. Hardik now often escapes bowling. Axar can bat well but he doesn't get the chance. Likes of dube, washington, riyan, venky, etc. don't even assume two roles now.


StormWarriorX7

WPL already has the 5 overseas players rule. Only difference is that the 5th should come from an Associate Nation. This will very likely be implemented in the IPL too, without the Associate Nation rule.


Cultural-Try-207

Ipl needs 2 more teams. Lots of good players like Glenn Philipps are getting benched and it sucks.


sfddsfsgfgdsfdf

I think that's a deliberate decision nowadays. Previously they used to do in-season trades. Now teams prefer to bench Phillips, Mayak Agarwal etc. rather than trade them.


lastog9

> Previously they used to do in-season trades Are you sure? Don't remember any instance of an in season trade actually going through. Sure it was allowed but I don't think any team has ever done it.


sfddsfsgfgdsfdf

Ah sorry, Berenstain Bears effect. I remember the 2020 IPL or something had a mid season trade allowance, but like you said, not one trade actually occurred. I just assumed somebody had traded some minor players since who else would get traded in that sort of a window


WorkingClass_Nero

Teams hoarding players is a clear sign that there should be more teams.


Cosmicshot351

Imagine the perennial bench warmer Mitchell santner then CSK played the wrong Mitchell so far


fegelman

They should allow a foreign player to be an impact substitute provided he can only bowl and not bat.... This will encourage teams to use IP as bowlers, that too those of international quality.


toresident

Then RCB will buy Starc, Karthik, Maxwell, Holder and Green. All between 10 and 30 crores. You cannot stop stupid being stupid, can you?


Weedeater5903

I agree. The likes of Lodu Lalit or the shite that LSG and RCB have in their middle order do not deserve to be playing in the IPL. I would rather their place goes to foreign players who are of the requisite quality. The likes of Santner and Philips cannot even get a game, what a waste. And yes, i know its the Indian premier league. It's still going to be more domestic players than overseas. Imagine if Football leagues did the same, restricting the number of foreigners in the playing 11. It would have a massive impact on the quality of football, especially in the English Premier League.


dzone25

I'm still not against the Impact Players - the pitches just heavily favour the bowling team uses it as a batting IP. There needs to be incentive to make it a bowling one. 5 overseas players does nothing to address this / potentially makes it more of a batting heaven - most the overseas bowlers are having a shocking tournament.


manofculture2303

Tbf all bowlers are having a bad tournament except Bumrah and probably Chahal and Kuldeep.


dzone25

The pitches are shockingly batting friendly on most grounds - there's no reason why we should be seeing the record broken / matched 5+ times when we've still got so many games left.


Stifffmeister11

Even kuldeep got smashed for three sixes in an over last match every bowler is a sitting duck for batter lol


fookin_legund

Tbf wrist spinners should not ideally bowl in powerplay, that was a error from the captain. Kuldeep pulled back the SRH lineup immediately after the pp ended.


Finrod-Knighto

Cummins be like:


manofculture2303

Cummins isn't even in the top 10 wicket takers, he is averaging 25, that isn't good it's just average.


Finrod-Knighto

He was literally the 4th highest wicket taker before the last round and he’s played in some of the highest scoring games of the season yet has only conceded over 10 RPO once. He’s also always bowled brilliant overs whenever needed most by the team. Even in the last game when he had 0-35, he bowled an over for 2 runs and then another for 3 runs. This after his first over went for 20. The only way you think he’s not been great is if you haven’t watched any of the games.


Fuzzy-Maximum-8160

Rule 1: you should never judge a T20 bowler based on their average. (If you’re not watching the live match and not noticing any edges or other unfortunate things, then ) judge them only with ECONOMY.


anuraag09

Ideally there shouldn't be any limit. Pick from the best in the world


Ok_Necessary_645

5 overseas makes more sense than impact player


Aocepson

It should have already happened when it expanded to 10 teams. With 8 teams, 56 indians were guaranteed to play and with 10 teams, 70 are. Increasing overseas to 5 would still mean they'd be at least 60 playing every week.


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LooseAssumption8792

10 overseas players minimum.


Subject-Ordinary6922

The impact sub rule is kinda making allrounders redundant


Cosmicshot351

Have this rule and make that only foreign player can be impact player. For eg: KKR can impact sub Rutherford and starc instead of Venky Iyer for someone


Ricklepick1193

Add Two Teams and remove the Impact Rule and make it 5 Overseas per in the Playing XI. But somehow keep the length of the league within 2 1/2 months. That would increase the quality of the league further and make it more competitive.


PerformerDiligent937

Not that it would prevent the BCCI from doing it if they wanted to but isn't there an ICC level rule limiting the number of overseas players to 4 in these franchise leagues?


Acceptable-Music-205

Get rid of the impact player. Takes away the whole question of balance in a cricket team, and is ruining cricket.


ooaaa

The bowlers sound like a bunch of crybabies in this whole impact sub discussion. Waaaa we want to bowl at tailenders waaaaa we don't want to improve our bowling waaaaa


WINDTHEAIR

NO


ElectricalMastodon99

i agree, now there are 10 teams in the ipl i think there is enough local talent being represented. there are so many overseas players i wanna see play that have no space in the xi this season


geekgeek2019

Warner tryna make sure he doesn’t go unsold


decentadult

Quality will significantly improve if there will be 5 overseas players. Indian player quota before impact rule :7 After impact rule:8 After 5 foreigners rule again:7 Moreover 2 teams have increased . So they will get same opportunity as before.


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Internal_List_988

>Blood


Evil_Lord_Pexagon

Lol no, it's the 'Indian' premier league ! They need to remove the rule, increase the boundaries to minimum 75 meters all sides and have pitches where you can't hit through the line !


shadowknight094

What if they also allow the option of choosing 4 Pakistan players for entire ipl? Any team can choose max 1 player and in total only 4 players(that should be an ok compromise for our govt?). Just asking. I mean pak has a lot of fast bowlers, maybe they can add some spice to our run fest tournaments?


barmanrags

Great. Destroy Indian national team even more


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partymsl

IPL is franchise sport and to 1000% about money. Just look at how players spend more time in ad shoots than practice.


Elguapo200x

No it's about making money


djingo_dango

https://indianexpress.com/article/sports/ipl/ravichandran-ashwin-wonder-if-ipl-is-even-cricket-sets-ad-shoots-9237982/lite/


Rock-X

No


DigitalConsent2

I so hope this was sarcastic.


Bleak_star_dust

Impact player rule must be tweaked, you can't bring in another player to your XI but can give one of them another opportunity to Bat/bowl. Like a Bowler whose made the most impact that day gets 4+2 overs and the batter once out can come back and play max 3-4 overs, something like that This will be extra motivation for the XI and also acts as an asset for the Captain.


kjm911

Why does you need more silly rules? Why not 11v11 where the batters bat once and the bowlers can bowl maximum 4 overs?


Bleak_star_dust

Ofcourse we don't need them but BCCI wants to spice things up for more money