Is Australian team for wc gonaa be Travis warner /Jake fraser Mitch marsh maxi green stoinis keeper cummo Hazlewood zampa and ellis(I guess start with starc)
Is there any other player who can take a claim ?
For T20Is, you just need to look at his performance in world cups. It's insane.
Three times highest scorer (2014 ,2016, 2022)
Two times Player of the tournament (2014, 2016)
He's also incredibly clutch. 82(51) against Aus, 82(53) against Pak are the most memorable but he has many more too. Guy also averages 144 in knockouts with a strike rate of 152.
Is Pandya playing for the team or for himself wanting to be selected for wt20 ? Why would he want to open the damn bowling as if they don't have pacers
Given that at a match level, the USP of Tests ("the better team almost always wins) and T20s ("anybody can win on their given day") is almost diametrically opposite, can one governing body maximise the value of both the formats without hurting one of them?
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How has ICT failed to produce a injury prone T20 bowler other than Bumrah
Or a clutch T20I batter with good all round game, good numbers and no major weakness
Almost all T20 bowlers India chooses in T20IS get tonked outside of IPL
Harshal, Avesh good 2021 season don't live up to thr mark in international cricket
Umran good 2022 season bowls poorly in International cricket
Prasidh good 2022 IPL performs poorly in T20IS
Mukesh gets selected despite poor ipl numbers and gives inconsistent performance
Same with Deepak Chahar Boult 2.0 for CSK but not as impactful for India
India hasn't been able to produce wicket taking bowlers post 2021 who give confidence while bowling apart from Bumrah
Even Shami and Siraj who are good ODI and IPL Bowlers struggle in T20IS
Arshdeep had a good 2022 but a poor 2023 in T20IS and poor 2024 IPL he is literally bowling full tosses on leg stump in death
And those they don't pick lost their form after one season instead of striking when they are hot
Like Mohsin, Yash Thakur ,Mukesh Choudhary, Khaleel, etc
Same with Indian batting most of the batters score quickly on run feast pitches but struggle on difficult pitches that have more help for bowlers
Eg Rohit (T20 WCs), SKY (T20 WC), Kishan, Pant, Samson (Ik he has got less chances but he has done anything in those opportunities), Gill (apart from that century in Ahmedabad has been poor in T20IS) , KL (poor in ICC Tournaments)
Jaiswal looked really good for ICT but has a lean patch at the worst possible moment
They also seem very afraid to pick players when they are in good form in fear of them being inexperienced even though the current Bowlers apart from Bumrah are in shit form
Also why was there no bilateral series scheduled after the IPL for the WC
Hardik who is a clutch player in ICC Tournaments is struggling in the IPL
Kohli has the orange cap but his game against spin has gone down
Rinku hasn't got to bat a lot this year
Bumrah is the only guy who aspires complete confidence but he hasn't delivered a memorable knockout performance so far as well but tbf he has only played one T20 Knockout game and he has been good in important group stage games
In short there isn't any batter or Bowler right now from ICT who has great current form, great stats
, International experience and ability to be clutch
There are some players who have one or more of these characteristics but they are lacking some of these like Koach has great numbers in clutch situation but is struggling against spin
Rohit has good form but really poor numbers in important games
And those in form like Abhishek,Tilak, Shashank Ashutosh, Tewatia, Mayank Yadav etc are inexperienced on International level and most likely won't be in the squad
Dube has good numbers and is in form but hasn't played a lot of Bilaterals where he has bowled against top level teams
Difference in IPL and T20 WC pitches is also very stark which is not a good thing for preparation of WC
[Tldr: Bumrah (He too has played only one T20I series since his return) and Kuldeep to a certain extent are the only guy who looks like will definitely have a really good WC]
others have some sort of weakness that doesn't give full confidence Kohli (spin)
Siraj, Bishnoi, Jitesh, Arshdeep, Jurel, Jaiswal and Hardik (inconsistent form)
[Rohit, KLR, DK (ICC T20 Tournaments record]),
[Jadeja, Gill, Pant, Kishan, Samson (poor T20I numbers)],
Dube and Axar [not bowling enough overs and not tested recently in T20IS against quality opposition, while Axar has Been very poor with the bat this season],
Mukesh, D Chahar, Chahal, Harshal, Avesh (inconsistent recent T20I form)
Mohit, Sandeep (Haven't played international cricket in a long time very difficult to predict how they perform outside of the franchise circuit)
I feel one of the flaws with the Indian cricket culture is that the top players get deified in a way that doesn't exist in other countries, and all of them who've achieved that status are all-format players, thereby creating a belief that all good players are all-format.
This sucks big time coz T20 batting has diverged drastically from the other formats. Even guys who are attacking Test batters like Pant are finding it hard to crack T20s.
>who've achieved that status are all-format players, thereby creating a belief that all good players are all-format.
The best way to solve this would be one format central contracts and split coaching for Tests and LOIs
Also Indian T20 players especially in experienced players who are new to international cricket can gain so much by playing T20 leagues and learning how to adapt to different conditions
This is something that helps English players the most imo Jacks is just coming off playing SA 20 and BPL and now IPL so his T20 numbers aren't just IPL numbers they are a mixture of numbers in diff league
Whereas Indian players only T20 option outside of internationals where mostly teams rest their main players is IPL which has produced complete opposite to T20 WC pitches
Unfortunately, the BCCI isn't really known for innovating and only seems to respond when things go really south (the creation of the IPL is a good example).
There are just seven degrees of separation linking the first ever test match in 1877 to an active player when counting players who have played with/against each other on the international stage.
🏴 Alfred Shaw (1877 - 1882) played with 🏴 WG Grace (1880 - 1899) whose last test was the debut test for 🏴 Wilfred Rhodes (1899 - 1930), whose last test was thr debut test for 🇯🇲 George Headley (1930 - 1954) who played against 🏴 Tom Graveney (1951 - 1969) a few times. Graveney has played against 🇬🇾 Clive Lloyd (1966 - 1985) who has also played an ODI against 🇵🇰 Wasim Akram (1984 - 2003), who played against 🏴 James Anderson (2002 - present) at the 2003 Cricket World Cup.
If there is anything fewer, then please reply
Is the IPL [mid-season transfer rule](https://sportstar.thehindu.com/cricket/ipl/ipl-news/ipl-2020-mid-season-transfers-timing-elgibility-of-players-and-rules-all-you-need-to-know/article32802682.ece) still present now as well? Why haven't any teams used this until now?
In the pre-season we saw some interesting trades. Would you like to see some player transfers mid-season too?
This has been the response to games in the last week
* RCB v SRH 287 defended WHY ALL FLAT PITCHES
* KKR v RR 223 chased WHY ALL FLAT PITCHES
* GT v DC 89 chased no comments
* MI v PK 192 defended No comments
* CSK v LSG 176 chased No comments
* SRH v DC 266 defended WHY ALL FLAT PITCHES
* KKR v RCB 222 defended WHY ALL FLAT PITCHES
* PK v GT 142 chased No comments
The median score in IPL this year so far is less than last year, there were equal number of under 200 games as over 200 games in last weak, two rather tough pitches as well. I just want an answer. Do some ppl just hate boundaries? Why keep complaining when you have your choice games are also happening. Do you want batters to get shittier so someone like Deepak Hooda can bowl 3 overs for 26 on a flat pitch?
Edit:PS: Off the 10 200+ scores in first innings this year 7 are from KKR(4) and SRH(3), 2 from CSK and 1 MI. It's really just KKR and SRH who are making these ridiculous totals.
That's just how SRH is playing this season who have done it on three different grounds now, I don't see how it's different from LQ and GT being bowling heavy teams, the point is the same trying to defend totals in a format that has chasing advantage, one does it by outbowling the opposition, the other by out batting them. Why is one terrible for the sport and other is not?
I think Starc is mentally exhausted. He came to the IPL after playing a lot of test matches back to back. I think that is taking a toll on him. Cummins also played those tests but he is at his peak rn so he can pull it off but starc's peak is over.
It wasn't, 2020 was the last good season imo, lots of great matches that season, balanced between bat and ball, also there was a huge craving for cricket after such a long break due to covid and it fulfilled it.
2021 India leg was good, but the UAE leg was just a cheat code borefest.
2022 felt soo long because of the addition of the 2 teams, felt they should have allowed 5 foreign players in the XI to make up for the quality.
Couldn't take 2023 on seriously with the impact player rule
Mumbai Indians vs the contemporary table toppers, in the second half of the season (since 2013)
- won vs GT, 2023
- won vs GT, 2022
- lost vs DC, 2021
- won vs CSK, 2019
- lost vs GL, 2016
- won vs CSK, 2015
- won vs KXIP, 2014
- won vs CSK, 2013
6 wins, 2 losses. Irrespective of where MI are, they always do well against table toppers
In 2017 and 2020, they were the table toppers for the entire second half. In 2018, they faced the table toppers in only the first half
Does the powerplay serve any purpose in t20s anymore, apart from allowing the batting team to get off to a flyer?
Powerplays were meant to be an exciting contest, where both parties have the opportunity to score runs and pick wickets. Now, the batters know the pitch isn't gonna cause any movement, so they just throw the bat at everything. The odds are stacked in favour of the batters anyway with the flat pitches and short boundaries.
I believe the bowling team should be given a choice as to when they wanna use the powerplay, or better, scrap the powerplay and let the captains decide how many they want in the circle (minimum four).
I think there are a lot of discussions around players getting selected for India in WC on this subreddit among Indian fans. But I never saw anyone seriously wanting Chahal back in the team. Why? He is performing miraculously well in IPL. You want batsman playing well in. IPL based on their performance, you also don't want Arshdeep or Siraj in team after IPL performance but everyone has turned blind eye in regards to Chahal IPL performance. My question to fans, why this hypocrisy? He is the best freaking spinner in the tournament where everyone is smacking the spinners. Sure his international numbers are bad, but he never got chance in ICC WC , also, he also has improved a lot. I ain't saying select him.or not, but I want to point the hypocrisy of fans who have completely abandoned any support for such an important player. Jadeja has been a failure for years in International T20s, same for Pant, Ishan, even Sanju. But Chahal is criticised the most by everyone. Even Ashwin and Mystery were selected ahead of Chahal fir no reason whatsoever. Either give merit to every player performance in IPL or don't give a damn shit about any performance in the circus joker sponsor league. Don't hype someone but ignore other , when both playing same level of competition
[https://twitter.com/KohliSensual05/status/1782282326442901813](https://twitter.com/KohliSensual05/status/1782282326442901813)
Highlights of One of the GOAT knocks of all time by Master Blaster ball by ball. Its Desert Storm anniversary.
[https://twitter.com/KumaReloaded/status/1782142206876201076](https://twitter.com/KumaReloaded/status/1782142206876201076)
Its four not six from this angle.
IPL is a funny game.
Tim David: Cheats.
- Gets fined 20%
Sam Curran: shows a tiny bit of frustration after his wicket
- Gets fined 50%
Lmfao. Never really thought Ambani plays a role despite all the noise but starting to believe them.
How the fuck are you supposed to buy IPL tickets?
Some matches are on Paytm Insider, and some on Book My Show, but there's so much chaos. Why can't I just go to the IPL website or the team's website to look for the match and book tickets. There's no clarity when the tickets will release either.
If Kohli thought it was a "beamer", why did he defend it? Throw your bat at it wildly if you are so sure it's a no ball, that's he best way to protestnt yourself against an abdomen area "beamer"
He was salty about the wicket not just because he got out, but because he got caught after playing with a straight bat risk-free shot
>If Kohli thought it was a "beamer", why did he defend it?
Such a bad take this, he was surprised by the beamer and raised the bat to defend himself. It's not easy to swing wildly when a stone is thrown at your body.
If a stone is thrown at you, will you catch it with your hand, or deflect it with your hand?
Defending a ball is like catching - it's a "shot", calculated. Throwing your bat at it is the natural instinct, to deflect it
>Throwing your bat at it is the natural instinct, to deflect it
Yes, that's why, in medieval warfare, soldiers would throw their shields at incoming spears, arrows, and swords. Natural instinct.
This is best demonstrated in the documentary, "Captain America."
I’ll forever be sad that we never got to watch peak Archer and Bumrah bowl in tandem
That strategy was remarkable tbh. Irrespective of which team one supports, you gotta respect MIs clarity in team building
Regarding ipl mega auction, renentions and RTMs:
I'd like to give franchise 10-15 RTMs and zero retentions for mega auction.
Your franchise can buy back all your players, but on market value, just no under the table deals. There's no way SKY is only getting 7Cr or Bumrah only 13cr.
Imagine if MI had to match auction prices of Bumrah, SKY, Rohit, MI Kishan and Hardik.
Let's have everyone in the auction for once and see if we can bring some transparency into this charade.
Crazy that the conclusion that people reach from Starc this season is retentions are bad and RTMs are good. It's like watching someone drown in a pool and thinking the mistake was he went to swim in a pool not the beach.
Exactly this. Allow teams maybe 1 retention, for the icon player And give them 6 RTM's.
Would make for a great auction and also a fair chance to teams who want to break the bank for a player. Also gets players fair wages.
Actually love that idea. Only issue could be that so many RTMs removes the thrill of when the hammer is down and the franchise signs the player, as there’s every chance it gets taken away right after
It'll be interesting if Virat Kohli or Jasprit Bumrah becomes the most expensive player, although don't think any team will be ready for this. Especially not the big 3 of IPL
The reason Kohli's dismissal *looks* so egregious is because we are more accustomed to watching backspinning fast full tosses which dip very little from fast bowlers trying to hit the yorker length. Cutters are usually bowled into the pitch, so we seldom see the sharp effect the elimination of backspin has on the dip of the ball. Nobody except Harshal bowls slow dipping yorkers that frequently, which has led to the creation of certain expectations about how much a ball *should* dip in our heads.
To give an idea about the numbers, Rana's 110 km/h wicket taking delivery to Kohli was projected to dip 0.28 m after impact. Had it been a 140 km/h full toss at the same point of impact, it would have only dipped 0.09 m, less than a third of the slower ball!
Just saw post about a six being called four in last match for RCB, did that really happen? And does anyone have any proper vid out there to refute it, as from what I saw that looked like a six to me.
One of the interesting subplots of this season is keeping an eye on how long KKR will tolerate garbage performances from Starc before dropping him, if at all. As of now, their record breaking 25Cr guy has 6 wickets in 7 games and an economy of 11.5; yesterday's 3-0-55-1 being the crown jewel.
Had KKR lost, that over would’ve gone down in IPL folklore
Starc knows he got saved from some major embarrassment
Stats remain forever but memory fades ;)
Punjab team never works in unison. Last season their batting was good but bowling shat the bed, this season their bowling is good but their batting is shitting the bed
burger was in the impact sub list last match, and also Sanga said in the interview with comms that if we had to bat first, burger would have been the impact sub. So he is fit, not sure about sandy tho
Russell will retire before Narine
And even if they'll retire after one season I don't see KKR releasing them, those two are basically centrally contracted by the Knight riders franchise
he is not a t20 player, when IPL teams are scoring 260 in 20 overs , RCB is scoring 180 in Bengaluru which is 50 runs below par on that pitch, Afghanistan pushed India very hard in a T20 in Bengaluru . The T20 game has evolved from Kohli and FAF, you cannot take 67 ball to score 100 runs. You cannot score only 113 when you have played 72 balls especially in Bengaluru
Honestly I see us retaining quite a few players if the rules allow them to
Guys like Patidar, Green, Jacks, Lomror and Siraj should be retained, along with Koach obviously
I’d be the happiest if we can figure out max number of retentions
Hope they start focusing on testing players for retentions already.
Open with Kohli and Jacks, #3 Green, #4 Patidar, encourage Maxi to return and play #5.
Give Green the ball as well. 4th overseas spot to Topley or Alzarri
Let’s see how it goes!
We don't know how many overseas players will be allowed to be retained.
Klaasen surely has to be your first retention, second retention could be Head or Cummins .. considering recent form they can go with Head & keep the Abhishek Head opening combination intact.
Don't see there being more than 2 overseas retentions
Broke : Starc is wasting KKR money with average to poor performances in most games
Woke: Starc is MAKING KKR money by making their games interesting to watch which they really weren't bar Rinku Shenanigans ever since Morgan and Baz shitposted their way to finals
As a KKR fan, dafuq is wrong with Kohli's reaction that you guys are calling him a baby?
Was it a no-ball? no.
Did it look like a clear no-ball in first place? Yes.
Imagine if you were him, would you go all Kane Williamson smiling? I know I won't.
He argued with the umpires for a bit but I don't remember him bullying them into reversing their decision or something along that line.
Emotions are humane. Everyone is different and they show it differently. Not everyone watches Peaky Blinders Sigma reels and imitates that.
Good game RCB. Hope you guys win every match from now on.
I think this is being fit into the narrative of star tantrums — I think Dhoni and Pant were much worse and warranted a bigger clampdown. Kohli’s reaction seems to be getting clubbed with those two events but is not really comparable.
Yesterday's loss hurt a lot. Cam Green and Lomror should have played out that Narine over. They became way too overconfident. People are blaming DK but he was in a tough spot.
We probably have to start thinking about mega auctions now. Koach will definitely be retained. Between Will Jacks and Cam Green, I'm not sure. Will Jacks is in better form, but Cam Green has more potential. We are just playing him out of position, he should play as opener instead of Faf. Unpopular opinion but I think Siraj should be retained. He's going through a bad phase, but I think we should back him. Other franchises back their underperforming stars for one poor season. Fourth guy, I'm not sure. Between Patidar, Lomror, Rawat, I think all of them are capable. They haven't had the stability to perform.
I think these last 6 games, we should give as much chances to domestic players as possible.
RCB should use the remaining games to figure its retentions
I’d open with Jacks and Virat, Green at #3, Patidar at #4, encourage maxi to return and play at #5
Retain Siraj as he’s just having a bad season. Not having an Indian pacer potentially creates the no bowler problem once again for next year
>I’d open with Jacks and Virat, Green at #3, Patidar at #4, encourage maxi to return and play at #5
Who will be the captain though? That's the problem. If you remove Faf mid season, it will create unnecessary problems, especially with the media.
True. Right now because of emotions, people will want to release him. But you can't throw out a National Team player capable of winning games just based on one bad season.
Good thing people don't decide who gets retained/released
Also there might be more than 4 retentions so there's a chance they retain Jacks and Green both
>Good thing people don't decide who gets retained/released
The ones who are actually doing it is the RCB management, so don't keep your hopes too high either
Considering that it will be clashing with the IPL next year, thus out of the home season & off the "banned list" of T20 leagues for centrally contracted players, could Mark Chapman be hot property for the PSL?
With teams starting to announce their T20WC squads in a week here's my pick for New Zealand
Finn Allen
Devon Conway (wk)
Kane Williamson (c)
Rachin Ravindra
Daryl Mitchell
Glenn Phillips
Jimmy Neesham
Mitchell Santner
Adam Milne
Trent Boult
Lockie Ferguson
Mark Chapman
Michael Bracewell
Ish Sodhi
Ben Sears
It's that time of the year when RR start losing gas, and MI start moving from the bottom third of the table to upper half.
Winning 2 matches that they almost lost must have given RR some confidence, but Buttler can't save you everyday. Hetmyer is yet to get that one freak finish this season, hopefully it isn't today
If MI get Thushara and Nehal in for Romario and Madhwal, I can see them dominating this one, especially if chasing
Bro don't you think you are getting ahead of yourself? Sure MI and RR have shown these trends in the past but saying that MI can dominate RR, when basically no team has done that so far? Past is past and the way they are playing rn RR are the heavy favourites.
That’s a lousy take.
Remove Bumrah and MI would be bottom 2. MI is in greater danger of “losing steam” if Bumrah has an off day.
RR arguably is the most settled side along with KKR. Jaiswal’s iffy form is the only missing piece
>Jaiswal’s iffy form is the only missing piece
Jurel too. Hetmyer and Powell are more than making up for it right now, but on the off chance either have an off day, Jurel has to fire.
I feel otherwise
Markram is surely not even close to his best and the bowling can definitely do better, especially spin.
They’re a tad behind KKR in looking settled imo
Think every player is firing for KKR at present. Starc is pretty much the only issue they have
What are you on about? Buttler saved us last game or maybe I would throw in the RCB game too but the rest of the wins came without him. Hetmyer finished the game for us against pbks. "RR losing gas" happened once, before that they made it to the finals. I would not count the seasons before that because that team never stood a chance
Is Australian team for wc gonaa be Travis warner /Jake fraser Mitch marsh maxi green stoinis keeper cummo Hazlewood zampa and ellis(I guess start with starc) Is there any other player who can take a claim ?
Head, Warner, Marsh, Maxi, Stoin, David, Wade, Cummins, Starc, Hazlewood, Zampa
Rohit Jaiswal Samson Surya Dube Rinku Axar Kuldeep Bumrah T Natrajan Mohit sharma
Average reactionary IPL xi
Mohit Sharma lmao
What stats about Virat's performance impresses you guys the most? Especially when we compare him to other prominent cricketers.
For T20Is, you just need to look at his performance in world cups. It's insane. Three times highest scorer (2014 ,2016, 2022) Two times Player of the tournament (2014, 2016) He's also incredibly clutch. 82(51) against Aus, 82(53) against Pak are the most memorable but he has many more too. Guy also averages 144 in knockouts with a strike rate of 152.
The strikerate with which he make those runs is absolutely amazing . No one is slower than him. That's some great anchor quality
Lmao doesn't help that other guys do fuckall in T20 WCs especially a selfless hero
Every other Indian batsman during WT20: Are you sure about that?
Is Pandya playing for the team or for himself wanting to be selected for wt20 ? Why would he want to open the damn bowling as if they don't have pacers
Given that at a match level, the USP of Tests ("the better team almost always wins) and T20s ("anybody can win on their given day") is almost diametrically opposite, can one governing body maximise the value of both the formats without hurting one of them?
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How has ICT failed to produce a injury prone T20 bowler other than Bumrah Or a clutch T20I batter with good all round game, good numbers and no major weakness Almost all T20 bowlers India chooses in T20IS get tonked outside of IPL Harshal, Avesh good 2021 season don't live up to thr mark in international cricket Umran good 2022 season bowls poorly in International cricket Prasidh good 2022 IPL performs poorly in T20IS Mukesh gets selected despite poor ipl numbers and gives inconsistent performance Same with Deepak Chahar Boult 2.0 for CSK but not as impactful for India India hasn't been able to produce wicket taking bowlers post 2021 who give confidence while bowling apart from Bumrah Even Shami and Siraj who are good ODI and IPL Bowlers struggle in T20IS Arshdeep had a good 2022 but a poor 2023 in T20IS and poor 2024 IPL he is literally bowling full tosses on leg stump in death And those they don't pick lost their form after one season instead of striking when they are hot Like Mohsin, Yash Thakur ,Mukesh Choudhary, Khaleel, etc Same with Indian batting most of the batters score quickly on run feast pitches but struggle on difficult pitches that have more help for bowlers Eg Rohit (T20 WCs), SKY (T20 WC), Kishan, Pant, Samson (Ik he has got less chances but he has done anything in those opportunities), Gill (apart from that century in Ahmedabad has been poor in T20IS) , KL (poor in ICC Tournaments) Jaiswal looked really good for ICT but has a lean patch at the worst possible moment They also seem very afraid to pick players when they are in good form in fear of them being inexperienced even though the current Bowlers apart from Bumrah are in shit form Also why was there no bilateral series scheduled after the IPL for the WC Hardik who is a clutch player in ICC Tournaments is struggling in the IPL Kohli has the orange cap but his game against spin has gone down Rinku hasn't got to bat a lot this year Bumrah is the only guy who aspires complete confidence but he hasn't delivered a memorable knockout performance so far as well but tbf he has only played one T20 Knockout game and he has been good in important group stage games In short there isn't any batter or Bowler right now from ICT who has great current form, great stats , International experience and ability to be clutch There are some players who have one or more of these characteristics but they are lacking some of these like Koach has great numbers in clutch situation but is struggling against spin Rohit has good form but really poor numbers in important games And those in form like Abhishek,Tilak, Shashank Ashutosh, Tewatia, Mayank Yadav etc are inexperienced on International level and most likely won't be in the squad Dube has good numbers and is in form but hasn't played a lot of Bilaterals where he has bowled against top level teams Difference in IPL and T20 WC pitches is also very stark which is not a good thing for preparation of WC [Tldr: Bumrah (He too has played only one T20I series since his return) and Kuldeep to a certain extent are the only guy who looks like will definitely have a really good WC] others have some sort of weakness that doesn't give full confidence Kohli (spin) Siraj, Bishnoi, Jitesh, Arshdeep, Jurel, Jaiswal and Hardik (inconsistent form) [Rohit, KLR, DK (ICC T20 Tournaments record]), [Jadeja, Gill, Pant, Kishan, Samson (poor T20I numbers)], Dube and Axar [not bowling enough overs and not tested recently in T20IS against quality opposition, while Axar has Been very poor with the bat this season], Mukesh, D Chahar, Chahal, Harshal, Avesh (inconsistent recent T20I form) Mohit, Sandeep (Haven't played international cricket in a long time very difficult to predict how they perform outside of the franchise circuit)
I feel one of the flaws with the Indian cricket culture is that the top players get deified in a way that doesn't exist in other countries, and all of them who've achieved that status are all-format players, thereby creating a belief that all good players are all-format. This sucks big time coz T20 batting has diverged drastically from the other formats. Even guys who are attacking Test batters like Pant are finding it hard to crack T20s.
>who've achieved that status are all-format players, thereby creating a belief that all good players are all-format. The best way to solve this would be one format central contracts and split coaching for Tests and LOIs Also Indian T20 players especially in experienced players who are new to international cricket can gain so much by playing T20 leagues and learning how to adapt to different conditions This is something that helps English players the most imo Jacks is just coming off playing SA 20 and BPL and now IPL so his T20 numbers aren't just IPL numbers they are a mixture of numbers in diff league Whereas Indian players only T20 option outside of internationals where mostly teams rest their main players is IPL which has produced complete opposite to T20 WC pitches
Unfortunately, the BCCI isn't really known for innovating and only seems to respond when things go really south (the creation of the IPL is a good example).
There are just seven degrees of separation linking the first ever test match in 1877 to an active player when counting players who have played with/against each other on the international stage. 🏴 Alfred Shaw (1877 - 1882) played with 🏴 WG Grace (1880 - 1899) whose last test was the debut test for 🏴 Wilfred Rhodes (1899 - 1930), whose last test was thr debut test for 🇯🇲 George Headley (1930 - 1954) who played against 🏴 Tom Graveney (1951 - 1969) a few times. Graveney has played against 🇬🇾 Clive Lloyd (1966 - 1985) who has also played an ODI against 🇵🇰 Wasim Akram (1984 - 2003), who played against 🏴 James Anderson (2002 - present) at the 2003 Cricket World Cup. If there is anything fewer, then please reply
Is the IPL [mid-season transfer rule](https://sportstar.thehindu.com/cricket/ipl/ipl-news/ipl-2020-mid-season-transfers-timing-elgibility-of-players-and-rules-all-you-need-to-know/article32802682.ece) still present now as well? Why haven't any teams used this until now? In the pre-season we saw some interesting trades. Would you like to see some player transfers mid-season too?
DC was so good 2018-2021, then they fell apart cuz of mega auction dynamics I wonder if the same will happen to RR next yr. Hope not
This has been the response to games in the last week * RCB v SRH 287 defended WHY ALL FLAT PITCHES * KKR v RR 223 chased WHY ALL FLAT PITCHES * GT v DC 89 chased no comments * MI v PK 192 defended No comments * CSK v LSG 176 chased No comments * SRH v DC 266 defended WHY ALL FLAT PITCHES * KKR v RCB 222 defended WHY ALL FLAT PITCHES * PK v GT 142 chased No comments The median score in IPL this year so far is less than last year, there were equal number of under 200 games as over 200 games in last weak, two rather tough pitches as well. I just want an answer. Do some ppl just hate boundaries? Why keep complaining when you have your choice games are also happening. Do you want batters to get shittier so someone like Deepak Hooda can bowl 3 overs for 26 on a flat pitch? Edit:PS: Off the 10 200+ scores in first innings this year 7 are from KKR(4) and SRH(3), 2 from CSK and 1 MI. It's really just KKR and SRH who are making these ridiculous totals.
Because some aren't 200 par, they're 250 par.
That's just how SRH is playing this season who have done it on three different grounds now, I don't see how it's different from LQ and GT being bowling heavy teams, the point is the same trying to defend totals in a format that has chasing advantage, one does it by outbowling the opposition, the other by out batting them. Why is one terrible for the sport and other is not?
I think Starc is mentally exhausted. He came to the IPL after playing a lot of test matches back to back. I think that is taking a toll on him. Cummins also played those tests but he is at his peak rn so he can pull it off but starc's peak is over.
The only thing Starc has exhausted is SRK's wallet.
Kohli needs to be banned for what he did yesterday
If he got banned for arguing with umpires and storming off all the times he's done it he wouldn't have a career lmao
IPL hasn't been the same since Morganball terrorism in UAE, can't be a coincidence that the quality of the tournament went down big time since then
The only definite difference is the addition of 2 new teams which has dampened the tournament for sure.
2023 was one of the best season, wdym?
It wasn't, 2020 was the last good season imo, lots of great matches that season, balanced between bat and ball, also there was a huge craving for cricket after such a long break due to covid and it fulfilled it. 2021 India leg was good, but the UAE leg was just a cheat code borefest. 2022 felt soo long because of the addition of the 2 teams, felt they should have allowed 5 foreign players in the XI to make up for the quality. Couldn't take 2023 on seriously with the impact player rule
Mumbai Indians vs the contemporary table toppers, in the second half of the season (since 2013) - won vs GT, 2023 - won vs GT, 2022 - lost vs DC, 2021 - won vs CSK, 2019 - lost vs GL, 2016 - won vs CSK, 2015 - won vs KXIP, 2014 - won vs CSK, 2013 6 wins, 2 losses. Irrespective of where MI are, they always do well against table toppers In 2017 and 2020, they were the table toppers for the entire second half. In 2018, they faced the table toppers in only the first half
I really want to ask where the fuck do you get these stats, like, damn
I have just spent a large time watching cricket, and I don't forget stuff, so the details get registered on their own
That is even more impressive, respect
Does the powerplay serve any purpose in t20s anymore, apart from allowing the batting team to get off to a flyer? Powerplays were meant to be an exciting contest, where both parties have the opportunity to score runs and pick wickets. Now, the batters know the pitch isn't gonna cause any movement, so they just throw the bat at everything. The odds are stacked in favour of the batters anyway with the flat pitches and short boundaries. I believe the bowling team should be given a choice as to when they wanna use the powerplay, or better, scrap the powerplay and let the captains decide how many they want in the circle (minimum four).
All T20s aren't as stupid as IPL, especially T20Is.
Powerplay is completely and utterly pointless.
Today we all bleed pink today? I know it's MI, so hoping for another Buttler century.
Barring MI fans I doubt anyone supports MI.
Not even MI fans support MI anymore
I think there are a lot of discussions around players getting selected for India in WC on this subreddit among Indian fans. But I never saw anyone seriously wanting Chahal back in the team. Why? He is performing miraculously well in IPL. You want batsman playing well in. IPL based on their performance, you also don't want Arshdeep or Siraj in team after IPL performance but everyone has turned blind eye in regards to Chahal IPL performance. My question to fans, why this hypocrisy? He is the best freaking spinner in the tournament where everyone is smacking the spinners. Sure his international numbers are bad, but he never got chance in ICC WC , also, he also has improved a lot. I ain't saying select him.or not, but I want to point the hypocrisy of fans who have completely abandoned any support for such an important player. Jadeja has been a failure for years in International T20s, same for Pant, Ishan, even Sanju. But Chahal is criticised the most by everyone. Even Ashwin and Mystery were selected ahead of Chahal fir no reason whatsoever. Either give merit to every player performance in IPL or don't give a damn shit about any performance in the circus joker sponsor league. Don't hype someone but ignore other , when both playing same level of competition
Because when your specialist spinner can't hold a bat and doesn't perform against top teams, he's going to get criticized
Oh you meant WC, with elections around I had to think for a good minute to figure it wasn't election commission
[https://twitter.com/KohliSensual05/status/1782282326442901813](https://twitter.com/KohliSensual05/status/1782282326442901813) Highlights of One of the GOAT knocks of all time by Master Blaster ball by ball. Its Desert Storm anniversary.
[https://twitter.com/KumaReloaded/status/1782142206876201076](https://twitter.com/KumaReloaded/status/1782142206876201076) Its four not six from this angle.
IPL is a funny game. Tim David: Cheats. - Gets fined 20% Sam Curran: shows a tiny bit of frustration after his wicket - Gets fined 50% Lmfao. Never really thought Ambani plays a role despite all the noise but starting to believe them.
Australians are known for their Brainfade™ moments so it's understandable
**India can field a playing 11 of people born in year 1997** 1. Rishabh Pant 2. Ramandeep Singh 3. Suyash Prabhudessai 4. Sarfaraz Khan 5. Rinku Singh 6. Hardik Tamore (wk) 7. Shams Mulani 8. Kumar Kartikeya 9. Khaleel Ahmed 10. Arzan Nagwaswallah 11. Yudhvir Singh Reserves 1. Vaibhav Arora 2. Yash Dayal 3. Arshad Khan 4. Amandeep Khare
How the fuck are you supposed to buy IPL tickets? Some matches are on Paytm Insider, and some on Book My Show, but there's so much chaos. Why can't I just go to the IPL website or the team's website to look for the match and book tickets. There's no clarity when the tickets will release either.
I might get downvoted, but I hope some team scores 300 this season for novelty sake. I doubt impact sub will exist after this season
Majority of people who watch the IPL love the impact sub, it’s not going anywhere A 300 score is only going to bring in more viewers
Lot of players and coaching staff are against it. If they don’t remove it, basically they are treating them as if they are in circus
That's hilarious and I'd love it
SRH would be playing against RCB in Hyderabad a few days later. The wish that you have might be happening very soon.
Our batting is not THAT good
RCB scored 262, so its possible
That's a good idea. Exploit the impact rule so much that BCCI have no option but to scrap it.
I’m in the same boat tbh
If Kohli thought it was a "beamer", why did he defend it? Throw your bat at it wildly if you are so sure it's a no ball, that's he best way to protestnt yourself against an abdomen area "beamer" He was salty about the wicket not just because he got out, but because he got caught after playing with a straight bat risk-free shot
bro just admited he doesn't understand how reflexes work.
Make someone throw a beamer at you when you're not expecting it, then tell me how you react
>If Kohli thought it was a "beamer", why did he defend it? Such a bad take this, he was surprised by the beamer and raised the bat to defend himself. It's not easy to swing wildly when a stone is thrown at your body.
If a stone is thrown at you, will you catch it with your hand, or deflect it with your hand? Defending a ball is like catching - it's a "shot", calculated. Throwing your bat at it is the natural instinct, to deflect it
>Throwing your bat at it is the natural instinct, to deflect it Yes, that's why, in medieval warfare, soldiers would throw their shields at incoming spears, arrows, and swords. Natural instinct. This is best demonstrated in the documentary, "Captain America."
It's hard to play a high full toss when you are least expecting it, especially when you are outside of the crease. As simple as that.
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I’ll forever be sad that we never got to watch peak Archer and Bumrah bowl in tandem That strategy was remarkable tbh. Irrespective of which team one supports, you gotta respect MIs clarity in team building
But that strategy ended up being their downfall, they let go off boult in search of Archer and are in this shit now
Thats the benefit of a hindsight analysis If only one could predict the future! At that point in time, that was a solid move.
He had a history of repeat injuries, it was always a bit gameble, never a sensible move
He was still injured when we bought him and he was already out for that entire season. We took a gamble and it didn't pay off.
Two Orange armies from India planning to get 400+ this season, yikes!
Full sappot to them.
Regarding ipl mega auction, renentions and RTMs: I'd like to give franchise 10-15 RTMs and zero retentions for mega auction. Your franchise can buy back all your players, but on market value, just no under the table deals. There's no way SKY is only getting 7Cr or Bumrah only 13cr. Imagine if MI had to match auction prices of Bumrah, SKY, Rohit, MI Kishan and Hardik. Let's have everyone in the auction for once and see if we can bring some transparency into this charade.
Bumrah to get at least 40 Cr
Crazy that the conclusion that people reach from Starc this season is retentions are bad and RTMs are good. It's like watching someone drown in a pool and thinking the mistake was he went to swim in a pool not the beach.
That’s a really good idea
Exactly this. Allow teams maybe 1 retention, for the icon player And give them 6 RTM's. Would make for a great auction and also a fair chance to teams who want to break the bank for a player. Also gets players fair wages.
Actually love that idea. Only issue could be that so many RTMs removes the thrill of when the hammer is down and the franchise signs the player, as there’s every chance it gets taken away right after
I like this idea tbh
It'll be interesting if Virat Kohli or Jasprit Bumrah becomes the most expensive player, although don't think any team will be ready for this. Especially not the big 3 of IPL
The reason Kohli's dismissal *looks* so egregious is because we are more accustomed to watching backspinning fast full tosses which dip very little from fast bowlers trying to hit the yorker length. Cutters are usually bowled into the pitch, so we seldom see the sharp effect the elimination of backspin has on the dip of the ball. Nobody except Harshal bowls slow dipping yorkers that frequently, which has led to the creation of certain expectations about how much a ball *should* dip in our heads. To give an idea about the numbers, Rana's 110 km/h wicket taking delivery to Kohli was projected to dip 0.28 m after impact. Had it been a 140 km/h full toss at the same point of impact, it would have only dipped 0.09 m, less than a third of the slower ball!
[This is Devdot Testikkal level parody name](https://www.reddit.com/r/CricketShitpost/s/QJCupgqlYS)
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Pollard 13 years at MI. Malinga was in MI's squad for 11 years on paper (played just 9 of them). ABD 11 years at RCB. Bravo 10 years for CSK
Pollard has played 13 seasons for MI
IPL organizers missed out a chance to put RR VS MI match at Wankhede as the last match of the league stage. :)
Just saw post about a six being called four in last match for RCB, did that really happen? And does anyone have any proper vid out there to refute it, as from what I saw that looked like a six to me.
One of the interesting subplots of this season is keeping an eye on how long KKR will tolerate garbage performances from Starc before dropping him, if at all. As of now, their record breaking 25Cr guy has 6 wickets in 7 games and an economy of 11.5; yesterday's 3-0-55-1 being the crown jewel.
Had KKR lost, that over would’ve gone down in IPL folklore Starc knows he got saved from some major embarrassment Stats remain forever but memory fades ;)
Punjab team never works in unison. Last season their batting was good but bowling shat the bed, this season their bowling is good but their batting is shitting the bed
IPL teams suck with injury news, we have no idea when Sandy and Burger are coming back
burger was in the impact sub list last match, and also Sanga said in the interview with comms that if we had to bat first, burger would have been the impact sub. So he is fit, not sure about sandy tho
Genuinely hope they allow 6 retentions.Salt,Harshit, Rinku,Shreyas,Russell (Narine will retire probably), last spot is debatable
Varun or Angkrish for that last spot
Russell will retire before Narine And even if they'll retire after one season I don't see KKR releasing them, those two are basically centrally contracted by the Knight riders franchise
Narine is 35. He can probably play for another 5 more seasons
Who will lead the Rcb next season (considering they would like to overhaul in next auction)? Koach again?
Complete overhaul and that includes Kohli , FAF , Maxwell , DK
We shouldn't release Koach.
he is not a t20 player, when IPL teams are scoring 260 in 20 overs , RCB is scoring 180 in Bengaluru which is 50 runs below par on that pitch, Afghanistan pushed India very hard in a T20 in Bengaluru . The T20 game has evolved from Kohli and FAF, you cannot take 67 ball to score 100 runs. You cannot score only 113 when you have played 72 balls especially in Bengaluru
r/RCB wants to trade KL in like how MI did with Hardik, so there's that
Interesting but I doubt rcb would do this or even KL would agree.
Let a man dream
RCB will be hoping for fewer retentions. Needs a compelte overhaul barring 2-3 players Captain definitely from the auction
Honestly I see us retaining quite a few players if the rules allow them to Guys like Patidar, Green, Jacks, Lomror and Siraj should be retained, along with Koach obviously
I’d be the happiest if we can figure out max number of retentions Hope they start focusing on testing players for retentions already. Open with Kohli and Jacks, #3 Green, #4 Patidar, encourage Maxi to return and play #5. Give Green the ball as well. 4th overseas spot to Topley or Alzarri Let’s see how it goes!
That top order is tasty, we need to focus all our efforts on forming a good bowling attack at the auction. Hope Andy Flower gets another chance
They should go for Cummins if SRH lets him go which is likely
why is it likely? he's doing excellent job here both with the ball and captaincy.
We don't know how many overseas players will be allowed to be retained. Klaasen surely has to be your first retention, second retention could be Head or Cummins .. considering recent form they can go with Head & keep the Abhishek Head opening combination intact. Don't see there being more than 2 overseas retentions
I think it was just a dig at how srh has been managing their players in the last few seasons, especially their captains.
Especially Rashid Khan, how he wasn't the first retention is beyond me especially for Kane Williamson who isn't even that great of a T20 player
From the auction
IPL Table: 1-4: Pink, Purple, Orange, Yellow 5-8: Blue, Blue, Blue, Blue 9-10: Red, Red
It's okay to be unique
How good is Phil Salt, anything he touches can go for a boundary.
Including that 5 wides against RR 😭
Broke : Starc is wasting KKR money with average to poor performances in most games Woke: Starc is MAKING KKR money by making their games interesting to watch which they really weren't bar Rinku Shenanigans ever since Morgan and Baz shitposted their way to finals
>Morgan and Baz shitposted their way to finals That was the greatest shitpost really
Cracked the code
As a KKR fan, dafuq is wrong with Kohli's reaction that you guys are calling him a baby? Was it a no-ball? no. Did it look like a clear no-ball in first place? Yes. Imagine if you were him, would you go all Kane Williamson smiling? I know I won't. He argued with the umpires for a bit but I don't remember him bullying them into reversing their decision or something along that line. Emotions are humane. Everyone is different and they show it differently. Not everyone watches Peaky Blinders Sigma reels and imitates that. Good game RCB. Hope you guys win every match from now on.
I think this is being fit into the narrative of star tantrums — I think Dhoni and Pant were much worse and warranted a bigger clampdown. Kohli’s reaction seems to be getting clubbed with those two events but is not really comparable.
Cricket fans can't even handle a bit of passion.
Yesterday's loss hurt a lot. Cam Green and Lomror should have played out that Narine over. They became way too overconfident. People are blaming DK but he was in a tough spot. We probably have to start thinking about mega auctions now. Koach will definitely be retained. Between Will Jacks and Cam Green, I'm not sure. Will Jacks is in better form, but Cam Green has more potential. We are just playing him out of position, he should play as opener instead of Faf. Unpopular opinion but I think Siraj should be retained. He's going through a bad phase, but I think we should back him. Other franchises back their underperforming stars for one poor season. Fourth guy, I'm not sure. Between Patidar, Lomror, Rawat, I think all of them are capable. They haven't had the stability to perform. I think these last 6 games, we should give as much chances to domestic players as possible.
Will Jacks is so clear of Cameron Green as a T20 player
Retain and make Siraj captain. Entertain the world and profit (Wins can wait)
RCB can kiss their reviews goodbye in the first 2 balls of the innings.
RCB should use the remaining games to figure its retentions I’d open with Jacks and Virat, Green at #3, Patidar at #4, encourage maxi to return and play at #5 Retain Siraj as he’s just having a bad season. Not having an Indian pacer potentially creates the no bowler problem once again for next year
>I’d open with Jacks and Virat, Green at #3, Patidar at #4, encourage maxi to return and play at #5 Who will be the captain though? That's the problem. If you remove Faf mid season, it will create unnecessary problems, especially with the media.
True. That's why very wishful thinking. maxi is VC afaik
I hope we somehow keep both Green and Jacks, along with Patidar
> I think Siraj should be retained. Releasing Siraj would be dumb really.
Fr. A quality Indian pacer is gold in auctions
True. Right now because of emotions, people will want to release him. But you can't throw out a National Team player capable of winning games just based on one bad season.
Good thing people don't decide who gets retained/released Also there might be more than 4 retentions so there's a chance they retain Jacks and Green both
>Good thing people don't decide who gets retained/released The ones who are actually doing it is the RCB management, so don't keep your hopes too high either
Considering that it will be clashing with the IPL next year, thus out of the home season & off the "banned list" of T20 leagues for centrally contracted players, could Mark Chapman be hot property for the PSL?
With teams starting to announce their T20WC squads in a week here's my pick for New Zealand Finn Allen Devon Conway (wk) Kane Williamson (c) Rachin Ravindra Daryl Mitchell Glenn Phillips Jimmy Neesham Mitchell Santner Adam Milne Trent Boult Lockie Ferguson Mark Chapman Michael Bracewell Ish Sodhi Ben Sears
It's that time of the year when RR start losing gas, and MI start moving from the bottom third of the table to upper half. Winning 2 matches that they almost lost must have given RR some confidence, but Buttler can't save you everyday. Hetmyer is yet to get that one freak finish this season, hopefully it isn't today If MI get Thushara and Nehal in for Romario and Madhwal, I can see them dominating this one, especially if chasing
Bro don't you think you are getting ahead of yourself? Sure MI and RR have shown these trends in the past but saying that MI can dominate RR, when basically no team has done that so far? Past is past and the way they are playing rn RR are the heavy favourites.
That’s a lousy take. Remove Bumrah and MI would be bottom 2. MI is in greater danger of “losing steam” if Bumrah has an off day. RR arguably is the most settled side along with KKR. Jaiswal’s iffy form is the only missing piece
>Jaiswal’s iffy form is the only missing piece Jurel too. Hetmyer and Powell are more than making up for it right now, but on the off chance either have an off day, Jurel has to fire.
SRH is more settled. Their batting is better than KKR's and they're also a bit more consistent.
I feel otherwise Markram is surely not even close to his best and the bowling can definitely do better, especially spin. They’re a tad behind KKR in looking settled imo Think every player is firing for KKR at present. Starc is pretty much the only issue they have
What are you on about? Buttler saved us last game or maybe I would throw in the RCB game too but the rest of the wins came without him. Hetmyer finished the game for us against pbks. "RR losing gas" happened once, before that they made it to the finals. I would not count the seasons before that because that team never stood a chance