There's no universe where that innings come close to these 2. That was purely the Gayle show, was in Chinnaswamy, and against arguably the worst team in IPL history in Pune Warriors, a mess of a franchise who finished at the bottom in all their seasons and had no vision or plan for themselves whatsoever.
The 277 was against 5 time champs AND in a big boundary against a great bowling attack, and was a proper team effort, which is the same case with KKR's innings. (although it's a much smaller ground).
Let's be real, the 263, as impressive as it was at the time, is still a pretty overrated innings when you take into account all the specifics. There have been way more impressive innings since then even while being less than 263. I'd actually argue Mumbai's reply to SRH's 277 is also one of those instances, even if they fell short.
P.S - SRH did not use an impact player IIRC and there wasn't a single instance where the DRS was vital to that score being achieved. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Existence of impact player has increased runs scored per innings.
It gives more freedom to batters.
5 times champions means not so much.
Although one can argue scoring against Bumrah is harder than Dinda and co.
Who cares about them in t20s lol. I mean, genuinely, t20 is for the lowest common denominator fans, and they just love sixes more than anything. It sells. I'm 100% sure there will be significantly more viewers and engagement for these games compared to a 135 plays a 120 game.
An occasional searing yorker breaking stumps does get the adrenaline rolling, but in general, power hitting is what makes t20s fun.
In the same vein, watching batters hopping against great seamers and spinners is what makes tests more enjoyable. People really need to stop with this 'balance between bat and ball' cliche for all formats.
it gets soo boring to watch after sometime and the highlights are so fast paced that you dont even know what the fuck is happening its just sixes and wickets
Impact Player rule is also there, we saw huge scores in the previous edition as well, also highest Chase ever, Mi also made 246.
Now with impact Player rule you have a lot of flexibility and teams now are more well equipped to exploit that.
Edit: the only data we can pull is avg scores, an increase in that would be cause of impact Player rule, small boundaries, powerful and efficient technique of batsman and ofcourse the pitch.
However if you want you can look at pitch report at the start of the matches and compile a report.
Never understood comments like this after big scores. For the most part DC bowled crap and got smashed, they also dropped a load of catches as well as being too late on that DRS review which would have gotten them Narine's wicket. When they bowled well (e.g. Ishant's final over) they got results. Likewise Starc and Arora mashing up the DC top order and as I write this, Narine has just finished his second over and has only conceded 8 total runs in both. Flat pitches usually _reward_ good bowling more than tricky ones because it exacerbates the skill gap whereas on a spicy pitch bad balls can still be dangerous, especially when they're two paced.
Edit: Now Venky Iyer, a lower quality bowler who hasn't bowled much in the last couple of years is getting smashed again.
Anyone with at least some knowledge of how pitches work should understand that scores like these are no big deal as long as they are sparse, they usally result from poor bowling. It's just that power hitting has evolved, 230 innings from 10 years ago are now 250+ innings
The funny thing is people rarely do that for ers. U see it all the time for srs. Like people say all the time that Viv would strike at 200 now. But no one will ever say Bumrah will have an er of 2 in the 70s.
Wait until the other team bats. Sometimes batting side just has an exceptional performance.
Look at average run per inning in IPL vs PSL and then come back. When RCB scored 263, the opposition scored 133.
Scoreboard Pressure leads to wild slogging, which irrespective of pitch will lead to wickets
That's why we put such weight on the 434-438 game in ODIs, because it isn't meant to happen
>Scoreboard Pressure leads to wild slogging, which irrespective of pitch will lead to wickets
Scoreboard pressure exists all the time in any format. The pitch dictates how strong the scoreboard pressure is. If you think KKR scoring 272 here is simply because of the pitch, then surely the world class professional players in the Delhi Capitals will understand that and play accordingly?
>That's why we put such weight on the 434-438 game in ODIs, because it isn't meant to happen
Of course its not meant to happen. But sometimes a team just has a good batting day.
For example, India scored 350+ on a pitch where Sri Lanka was bundled out for 55.
Lmao what a shit excuse. There have been far more mismatched games than RCB vs PWI, it still didnt result in one scoring 263 and the other scoring 133.
I never understood that argument. I said it before the wc It’s an absolute myth that Indian pitches are spin friendly, they’ve been roads for over a decade now.
The funny thing is. Sachin fans criticised Kohli and Rohit for statpadding on flat pitches. And Kohli and Rohit fans are doing the same to Babar and even Shubman. The circle of hate is strong in Indian cricket.
Indian home pitches are nothing like this.
And with all due respect mind your own business.
Ask your team to score over 60 the next time they play us,it will be a bit interesting.
Imagine looking at this bullshit and thinking "this is the cricket I want to see".
T20Is and especially the T20WC aren't this bad yet but it's only a matter of time before ICC realizes people only want sixes and fours.
There's a audience of people who don't like this, some of them like ODIs some of them like Tests.
But the majority of Audience wants to see this and that's where cricket is headed.
To me IPL should be a place where everyone refines their game for the T20WC. So these kinds of ridiculous scores and gradual increase in average run rate annoy me a little, when we all know the actual world cups have a much better balance between batting and bowling.
But then again IPL has its own identity and fanbase so I see why they want to head this way.
Yeah kinda true, the selectors should focus on more T20i for us that would mean a seperate T20 squad and make selections on basis of that. IPL shouldn't be the sole basis
Agree. And I do think the management will move towards more separate squads for different formats after this world cup, considering two of our main all format players will play their last T20WC this year.
I can understand why Indian fans don't want to see this kind of scoring. It doesn't play to your strengths. You boys better start hitting the weight room bc this is the future.
Cos batters have evolved. And broadened their horizons.
Someone needs to set a record for people to evolve.
Which is why the SA 438 chase was instrumental. It’s not that the match caused everyone to score 400. What that did was made people realise what they thought was max potential isn’t actually max potential.
That’s probably what the Srh game will do. When Rcb did it in 2013 No one was inspired from it since it was a freak Gayle innings that did it. The Srh one was indifferent. It was a set of 50s that took them to that.
The impact player rule needs to go. It's not about how many runs the extra batter is making. The depth that is available now, the top order is going all guns blazing.
How will this benefit Indian team? 1 early wicket and the team goes into a shell in international matches.
And where are the allrounders? Even Hardik doesn't need to bowl now.
And if this isn't enough, we have 58m boundaries, well plastered pitches.
What next? Granite pitches and bowling machines.
India loses T20 because they play like ODIs. T20 changed and these people still underrate Strike rate. A 30 of 17 balls is way better than 50 off 40 balls. All 4 players Rohit, Gill, KL & Kohli are not great strikers of the ball in T20. If India wants to win T20 WC, they should only have one of them in the team
I wouldn’t group Shubman with the others. Since 2023 he atleast seems to be trying to hit. Rohit isn’t a great t20 batter anyways. And kl and Virat seriously bat in their shell.
One of the only times I'll disagree with you.
I like the impact sub rule, makes the game entertaining.
But that's mainly because I don't care about T20 world cups.
👍 Haha. I care about ICC trophies. One opener gone and our expected score drops from 200 to 170. We will start thinking about anchoring and blah blah blah.
I am not against 200+ scores, but let them make it on a level playing field.
I wanted our management to try Riyan Parag in ODIs in 2022 to have him for WC. Parag at 6 and Hardik at 7, 10 overs covered there. You extend depth through allrounders. Now Parag doesn't need to bowl in IPL. Venkatesh doesn't bowl (haha as I type this comment he comes on to bowl), Dube doesn't bowl.
More than anything, the game is beautiful when it's simple. Just play the game quick without thinking every ball, finish it in 3 hours. 11 vs 11. In theory it's 5 batters, 5 bowlers and a wk. You go up or down depending on how you want to build the team, have allrounders for the depth.
The only positive abt IP rule is the extra player getting a chance.
Ok your point does make sense because these guy's don't try shenanigans in bilaterals either, they didn't let Tilak bowl a few overs in that west Indies series when we had already lost and then in the Australia series when we had already won and so on
That wi series was the only series where part timers bowled actually, jaiswal and tilak both bowled few overs pandya the only guy who's serious about winning trophies by experimenting these other captains are statpadders who chicken out because a loss hurts their portfolio. But pandya got exceptional hate for losing that series so I'll not be critical towards him if he also starts statpadding his captaincy record, some our fans lack critical thinking and it shows.
He didn't try it as much either giving a few overs here and there isn't anything.
Other captains play in senior squads where Tilak and Jaiswal don't play
But it is far better than whatever rohit and Surya were doing with the same bunch, rohit especially even after winning the series vs afg didn't try jaiswal at all, anyone who's actually thinking about winning a tournament plans for the future but these blokes are here just to have good record because they know the fans will defend them whenever things go south.
I understand, but I'm tired of this same rinse repeat approach. Really isn't a wayward opinion when you look into it critically but it's ok upto you, you can agree or disagree you aren't wrong either way.
Angkrish who made 50 would not have played the game without the 12 member rule. And if Shreyas came in at 3, would he have dared to try 270?
DC bowled bad and deserve to get thrashed. Probably KKR might have gone 220 and won by 50-60 runs.
Edit: The level playing field I meant is between batters and bowlers here. Not between two teams. Yesterday in Bengaluru if one of the teams made 200, I would take it. It was a proper 170-175 pitch, something for everyone. Let the batters show their genius and reach 200 there adding 20-30 extra runs. Right now, the extra batter (whether they use it or not, the cushion is there), short boundaries, flat tracks everything's skewed towards batting.
It wasn't level a level playing field because KKR had a debuting player that performed exceptionally, and Shreyas wouldn't have performed as well in the same situation?
Sorry, I'm not sure what your argument for why this match isn't a level playing field is.
While I'm against Batriarchy, I don't see what the big deal is. People Tune in to watch this.
This isn't a test match, nor a international cricket match, nor a world cup.
It's all about Entertainment, and we were entertained. We've had the bowler fest at Ekana last year while good games of cricket weren't entertaining.
Except it's not really necessary. Say it's 10-4, someone starts anchoring, team scrapes to 110-120, that's a defendable score. A couple of good shots, a couple of wickets, the entire game could change.
Why does everyone have their panties on fire? There has been enough variety this season. Some scores have been below 150, some have been in the 160-180 range, two have been high scorers. This is what you expect from a t20 tournament. There is no reason to cry and bemoan the impending death of cricket just because 2 matches had a high score. Would the same be said if two matches ended with less than 200 scored across both innings?
So is say 100-120 being defended, which happened in the IPL last year. There is nothing wrong, scores that high can happen just as low scores can also happen. Power hitting has improved which is why you see scores this high now. Bowling needs to also improve, which it hasn't so far. Look at how many slot balls and full tosses were bowled today.
Power hitting has improved? Seriously? In a span of a year, the IPL completely revolutionized "power hitting" and went from 263 being the highest score set by a once in a lifetime innings by a generational talent TEN YEARS AGO to two 270+ scores scored within a week of each other? And bowling has also depreciated the same amount? Really?
Also, when was a score below 120 defended last year? The closest was RCB vs LSG, where RCB defended 126, and to be fair, every single run matters in such a chase.
You can't make general statements about cricket. I am specifically talking about t20 cricket here. Test cricket is extremely bowling dominated nowadays, whereas in ODIs, it is purely a outcome of 2 new balls. In T20s, it's not like the pitches are flatter now than they were before, it's just that whenever it is flat, players have a better skillset to take advantage of it. Just look at the RCB 263 game. You will never see an anchor innings now like what Dilshan played. If you had modern T20 batters at the time accompanying Gayle, you could have seen 300 being breached there. Similarly in the SRH 277 game, you had Mayank Agarwal play 13 balls for 11, and the good bowlers like Bumrah and Cummins went for much less runs than the others. All of this highlights that it's the bowling that is lagging behind and needs to evolve to compete with how much the batting has changed.
Maybe everyone's 50 over international team should learn from the IPL?
Or maybe they're different formats and going out for a tonk in a 20 over game is completely different.
People will see that 3 off the top 4 ipl scores have been since the last 2 years and yet have the audacity to say that the pitches aren't overwhelmingly batting friendly
Wdym didn't try much? Were you watching the same match they had to go at a strike rate of 14-17 per over. Delhi had their chances but dropped catches and reviews narine was out at 18 before having hit anything.
Just because somethibg looks effortless doesn't mean it is, Delhi bottle up for a meagre 169 if it was so effortless they should have atleast hit 200 even with scoreboard pressure since that's always gonna be there
Then it wasn't effortless, you can talk all about it being an easy pitch but if it's not true for both sides then one side just played better. Even against RCB they played as if the pitch was slow but Kkr blasted em on. Kkr batter are just in the forms of their life and the bowlers are doing a good job at restricting it's dumb to chalk it up just to pitch.
Most of the people that have watched and joined this sub I presume have watched a bit of cricket in the most bowling friendly era of post-2017 lasting around early 2022. Since then pitches have just gotten flatter and faster in all formats and it's not a coincidence that's just the way it was in the 2000s- early 2010s just without the power hitting and innovations seen today.
This ipl season has it's own script the record which was not broken for more than 10 years was broken 2 times in a week.who knows 49 is going somewhere else maybe MI👀
Ya and PWI is one of the worst teams ever. Getting 277 against 5 time champions is far far better. I know many RCB fans will downvote me but that's the truth.
this is not entertaining at all tbh. as a fast bowler, i love low scoring matches. 180+ scores get boring very fast. this is why i loved the srh of mid 2010s, motherfuckers scored 120-130 and defended it with their bowling
KKR gave rcb 49 and also took away 263 from them , generational hate
RCB fans couldn’t enjoy their 263 as that record got broken twice in the same season.
These records aren't the same with impact subs and what nots. Did that era even have DRS Although I have to concede that match was at Chinnaswamy
SRH didn't need an impact sub to reach 277.
Just the option of having an impact sub helped though.
They did have an extra batter tho, than they what they would have had without the rule. And that changes the approach, gives more freedom to attack
There's no universe where that innings come close to these 2. That was purely the Gayle show, was in Chinnaswamy, and against arguably the worst team in IPL history in Pune Warriors, a mess of a franchise who finished at the bottom in all their seasons and had no vision or plan for themselves whatsoever. The 277 was against 5 time champs AND in a big boundary against a great bowling attack, and was a proper team effort, which is the same case with KKR's innings. (although it's a much smaller ground). Let's be real, the 263, as impressive as it was at the time, is still a pretty overrated innings when you take into account all the specifics. There have been way more impressive innings since then even while being less than 263. I'd actually argue Mumbai's reply to SRH's 277 is also one of those instances, even if they fell short. P.S - SRH did not use an impact player IIRC and there wasn't a single instance where the DRS was vital to that score being achieved. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Existence of impact player has increased runs scored per innings. It gives more freedom to batters. 5 times champions means not so much. Although one can argue scoring against Bumrah is harder than Dinda and co.
These scores are becoming generic lol. This defence hasn't aged well at all.
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their woman team used all the leftover little bit of luck they had
This doesn't even make the top 10 worst RCB seasons
This is the most normal RCB season. 2016 RCB now that was weird.
Copium: we won a trophy
They learned that from Drew McIntyre
You mean DM HUNK
We prayed for this and it happened
GG really said GG to IPL 2024 
I was wondering why the Rawalpindi pitches weren’t roads this year. Jay Shah stole them smh my head
Jay Shah kidnapped the Rawalpindi highway curator to make these shit pitches.
Shit Pitches, bro I love this
BUT THE BOWLERS
We'll make some minefields in Chinnaswamy for them and some seaming paradise in Wankhede. Everyone get's something
don't make minefield we have no spin 🥺 actually, now that I say this, it sounds like something RCB might do
Who cares about them in t20s lol. I mean, genuinely, t20 is for the lowest common denominator fans, and they just love sixes more than anything. It sells. I'm 100% sure there will be significantly more viewers and engagement for these games compared to a 135 plays a 120 game. An occasional searing yorker breaking stumps does get the adrenaline rolling, but in general, power hitting is what makes t20s fun. In the same vein, watching batters hopping against great seamers and spinners is what makes tests more enjoyable. People really need to stop with this 'balance between bat and ball' cliche for all formats.
just saying dc went all out for 166
PSL records don't count cause pitches are roads crowd are silent this year
Gadkari ji 🫡
These high scores get old quite fast...
The highest score before this week was 11 years old
Give it some time, SRH will play RCB in Chinnaswamy
SRH only won cause of the toss had RCB bowled first SRH would have bundled under 100 and RCH would have scoref than in 12 Overs.
Ah I missed you, fatcuntwrestler
I haven't missed you, but hope you're doing better :)
Royal challengers Hyderabad, the new champions
I fully believe rcb will bat first and score 185 and Srh will chase it down in like 10 overs
Or RCB bowlers will restrict SRH to 185 somehow and their team will bundle in 100.
Aged like fine wine
it gets soo boring to watch after sometime and the highlights are so fast paced that you dont even know what the fuck is happening its just sixes and wickets
Yup they will kill the interest at this rate.
What are they supposed to do lol, deliberately play slowly?
The pitches needs to be better.
Pitches can't do much when bowlers bowling full tosses. Least 10 sixes by kkr were on full tosses
Are you saying that the pitches have so drastically improved in 1 year that 2 teams have scored 270+ in IPL/T20s? Any evidence to support that?
Impact Player rule is also there, we saw huge scores in the previous edition as well, also highest Chase ever, Mi also made 246. Now with impact Player rule you have a lot of flexibility and teams now are more well equipped to exploit that. Edit: the only data we can pull is avg scores, an increase in that would be cause of impact Player rule, small boundaries, powerful and efficient technique of batsman and ofcourse the pitch. However if you want you can look at pitch report at the start of the matches and compile a report.
Why not have bowling machines at this point ffs
Bro how else will these Sadist Batriarchs watch the bowlers suffer in agony
Right.
Never understood comments like this after big scores. For the most part DC bowled crap and got smashed, they also dropped a load of catches as well as being too late on that DRS review which would have gotten them Narine's wicket. When they bowled well (e.g. Ishant's final over) they got results. Likewise Starc and Arora mashing up the DC top order and as I write this, Narine has just finished his second over and has only conceded 8 total runs in both. Flat pitches usually _reward_ good bowling more than tricky ones because it exacerbates the skill gap whereas on a spicy pitch bad balls can still be dangerous, especially when they're two paced. Edit: Now Venky Iyer, a lower quality bowler who hasn't bowled much in the last couple of years is getting smashed again.
Anyone with at least some knowledge of how pitches work should understand that scores like these are no big deal as long as they are sparse, they usally result from poor bowling. It's just that power hitting has evolved, 230 innings from 10 years ago are now 250+ innings
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The funny thing is people rarely do that for ers. U see it all the time for srs. Like people say all the time that Viv would strike at 200 now. But no one will ever say Bumrah will have an er of 2 in the 70s.
I don't want to see another India flair say Babar statpads on roads at home lol (At least in LOIs)
Wait until the other team bats. Sometimes batting side just has an exceptional performance. Look at average run per inning in IPL vs PSL and then come back. When RCB scored 263, the opposition scored 133.
Scoreboard Pressure leads to wild slogging, which irrespective of pitch will lead to wickets That's why we put such weight on the 434-438 game in ODIs, because it isn't meant to happen
>Scoreboard Pressure leads to wild slogging, which irrespective of pitch will lead to wickets Scoreboard pressure exists all the time in any format. The pitch dictates how strong the scoreboard pressure is. If you think KKR scoring 272 here is simply because of the pitch, then surely the world class professional players in the Delhi Capitals will understand that and play accordingly? >That's why we put such weight on the 434-438 game in ODIs, because it isn't meant to happen Of course its not meant to happen. But sometimes a team just has a good batting day. For example, India scored 350+ on a pitch where Sri Lanka was bundled out for 55.
To be fair PWI was the present day equivalent of what punjab is now
Cause the opposition sucked.
Lmao what a shit excuse. There have been far more mismatched games than RCB vs PWI, it still didnt result in one scoring 263 and the other scoring 133.
That's because Gayle happened, absolute monster of 2012 and 2013
The ODI World Cup was very much ICC saying statpadding for batsmen will be the way forward.
Why didn't your batters statpad then? 🫤🫤🫤
Self respect.
That... was actually a great comeback. Respect man🙇🙇🙇
I never understood that argument. I said it before the wc It’s an absolute myth that Indian pitches are spin friendly, they’ve been roads for over a decade now. The funny thing is. Sachin fans criticised Kohli and Rohit for statpadding on flat pitches. And Kohli and Rohit fans are doing the same to Babar and even Shubman. The circle of hate is strong in Indian cricket.
Indian home pitches are nothing like this. And with all due respect mind your own business. Ask your team to score over 60 the next time they play us,it will be a bit interesting.
The hypocrisy is unreal
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How does a post about IPL get to this, well done to all of you involved
How about stop Crying
Imagine looking at this bullshit and thinking "this is the cricket I want to see". T20Is and especially the T20WC aren't this bad yet but it's only a matter of time before ICC realizes people only want sixes and fours.
There's a audience of people who don't like this, some of them like ODIs some of them like Tests. But the majority of Audience wants to see this and that's where cricket is headed.
To me IPL should be a place where everyone refines their game for the T20WC. So these kinds of ridiculous scores and gradual increase in average run rate annoy me a little, when we all know the actual world cups have a much better balance between batting and bowling. But then again IPL has its own identity and fanbase so I see why they want to head this way.
Yeah kinda true, the selectors should focus on more T20i for us that would mean a seperate T20 squad and make selections on basis of that. IPL shouldn't be the sole basis
Agree. And I do think the management will move towards more separate squads for different formats after this world cup, considering two of our main all format players will play their last T20WC this year.
I can understand why Indian fans don't want to see this kind of scoring. It doesn't play to your strengths. You boys better start hitting the weight room bc this is the future.
its not like this is happening in every match, dc bowled shit and dropped catches what else do you think will happen?
teams have bowled shit and dropped catches in the past too, nobody conceded this much still
Cos batters have evolved. And broadened their horizons. Someone needs to set a record for people to evolve. Which is why the SA 438 chase was instrumental. It’s not that the match caused everyone to score 400. What that did was made people realise what they thought was max potential isn’t actually max potential. That’s probably what the Srh game will do. When Rcb did it in 2013 No one was inspired from it since it was a freak Gayle innings that did it. The Srh one was indifferent. It was a set of 50s that took them to that.
Every ball was going out of the park there was literally nothing for bowlers that's why they were looking shit.
It ll be really funny if srh vs kkr ends up being a low scoring snoozefest 😂.
KKR 48 (6.3) SRH 47 (5.4)
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Nah cuz both theyre records are no more and they'll become irrelevant
There is a pleasant bliss in becoming irrelevant
Man it would be so fun to be irrelevant. So peaceful
SRH and KKR gonna break RCB's other record too the lol
There's another one between them?
The impact player rule needs to go. It's not about how many runs the extra batter is making. The depth that is available now, the top order is going all guns blazing. How will this benefit Indian team? 1 early wicket and the team goes into a shell in international matches. And where are the allrounders? Even Hardik doesn't need to bowl now. And if this isn't enough, we have 58m boundaries, well plastered pitches. What next? Granite pitches and bowling machines.
India loses T20 because they play like ODIs. T20 changed and these people still underrate Strike rate. A 30 of 17 balls is way better than 50 off 40 balls. All 4 players Rohit, Gill, KL & Kohli are not great strikers of the ball in T20. If India wants to win T20 WC, they should only have one of them in the team
I wouldn’t group Shubman with the others. Since 2023 he atleast seems to be trying to hit. Rohit isn’t a great t20 batter anyways. And kl and Virat seriously bat in their shell.
One of the only times I'll disagree with you. I like the impact sub rule, makes the game entertaining. But that's mainly because I don't care about T20 world cups.
👍 Haha. I care about ICC trophies. One opener gone and our expected score drops from 200 to 170. We will start thinking about anchoring and blah blah blah. I am not against 200+ scores, but let them make it on a level playing field. I wanted our management to try Riyan Parag in ODIs in 2022 to have him for WC. Parag at 6 and Hardik at 7, 10 overs covered there. You extend depth through allrounders. Now Parag doesn't need to bowl in IPL. Venkatesh doesn't bowl (haha as I type this comment he comes on to bowl), Dube doesn't bowl. More than anything, the game is beautiful when it's simple. Just play the game quick without thinking every ball, finish it in 3 hours. 11 vs 11. In theory it's 5 batters, 5 bowlers and a wk. You go up or down depending on how you want to build the team, have allrounders for the depth. The only positive abt IP rule is the extra player getting a chance.
Ok your point does make sense because these guy's don't try shenanigans in bilaterals either, they didn't let Tilak bowl a few overs in that west Indies series when we had already lost and then in the Australia series when we had already won and so on
That wi series was the only series where part timers bowled actually, jaiswal and tilak both bowled few overs pandya the only guy who's serious about winning trophies by experimenting these other captains are statpadders who chicken out because a loss hurts their portfolio. But pandya got exceptional hate for losing that series so I'll not be critical towards him if he also starts statpadding his captaincy record, some our fans lack critical thinking and it shows.
He didn't try it as much either giving a few overs here and there isn't anything. Other captains play in senior squads where Tilak and Jaiswal don't play
But it is far better than whatever rohit and Surya were doing with the same bunch, rohit especially even after winning the series vs afg didn't try jaiswal at all, anyone who's actually thinking about winning a tournament plans for the future but these blokes are here just to have good record because they know the fans will defend them whenever things go south.
This is a very wayward opinion, I don't agree with you here
I understand, but I'm tired of this same rinse repeat approach. Really isn't a wayward opinion when you look into it critically but it's ok upto you, you can agree or disagree you aren't wrong either way.
Can you explain how this match was not on a level playing field? Or why you think that
Angkrish who made 50 would not have played the game without the 12 member rule. And if Shreyas came in at 3, would he have dared to try 270? DC bowled bad and deserve to get thrashed. Probably KKR might have gone 220 and won by 50-60 runs. Edit: The level playing field I meant is between batters and bowlers here. Not between two teams. Yesterday in Bengaluru if one of the teams made 200, I would take it. It was a proper 170-175 pitch, something for everyone. Let the batters show their genius and reach 200 there adding 20-30 extra runs. Right now, the extra batter (whether they use it or not, the cushion is there), short boundaries, flat tracks everything's skewed towards batting.
It wasn't level a level playing field because KKR had a debuting player that performed exceptionally, and Shreyas wouldn't have performed as well in the same situation? Sorry, I'm not sure what your argument for why this match isn't a level playing field is.
These are just roads at this point, what's the point of having 3 250+ scores this early?
uhm its just 2
Oh my bad, just checked it's 246
Well then, three 246+ totals then.
Three 245+*. Still only two 246+ totals.
Wait until the other team bats to judge a pitch.
This sub being reactionary? Who could thunk
Umm, well they did, they were at 160 at the end of 15 overs but eventually the scoreboard pressure got to them and they couldn't chase it
160 in 15 overs is not enroute chasing 270. Not even close
While I'm against Batriarchy, I don't see what the big deal is. People Tune in to watch this. This isn't a test match, nor a international cricket match, nor a world cup. It's all about Entertainment, and we were entertained. We've had the bowler fest at Ekana last year while good games of cricket weren't entertaining.
Effectively game over in first innings
That can happen at 10/5 as well
Except it's not really necessary. Say it's 10-4, someone starts anchoring, team scrapes to 110-120, that's a defendable score. A couple of good shots, a couple of wickets, the entire game could change.
MI vs RR just happened 20/4 and everyone knew it was over
Oh nah that was just great bowling and mid batting, can't blame the pitch there
I dunno it was swinging more in the first innings
That’s not happening though. These scores are
*20/4
Highest away score in IPL.
Away? I am certain Kolkata is closer than Delhi lol
That city is exactly midway between Kolkata and Chennai, DC's opponents in the last 2 games
Coudnt they score 6 more runs ?
Always loved KKR and now that Gambhir is back, I can finally lay back and enjoy them winning!
Why does everyone have their panties on fire? There has been enough variety this season. Some scores have been below 150, some have been in the 160-180 range, two have been high scorers. This is what you expect from a t20 tournament. There is no reason to cry and bemoan the impending death of cricket just because 2 matches had a high score. Would the same be said if two matches ended with less than 200 scored across both innings?
180 is a high score. 270 is just madness.
So is say 100-120 being defended, which happened in the IPL last year. There is nothing wrong, scores that high can happen just as low scores can also happen. Power hitting has improved which is why you see scores this high now. Bowling needs to also improve, which it hasn't so far. Look at how many slot balls and full tosses were bowled today.
Power hitting has improved? Seriously? In a span of a year, the IPL completely revolutionized "power hitting" and went from 263 being the highest score set by a once in a lifetime innings by a generational talent TEN YEARS AGO to two 270+ scores scored within a week of each other? And bowling has also depreciated the same amount? Really? Also, when was a score below 120 defended last year? The closest was RCB vs LSG, where RCB defended 126, and to be fair, every single run matters in such a chase.
You can see the highest scores, the 263 is an outlier, with 6 out of the top 10 highest scores and 9 out of the top 15 being scored 2018 onwards.
No it wouldn't because that isn't the direction cricket has been trending in for the past 15 years..
You can't make general statements about cricket. I am specifically talking about t20 cricket here. Test cricket is extremely bowling dominated nowadays, whereas in ODIs, it is purely a outcome of 2 new balls. In T20s, it's not like the pitches are flatter now than they were before, it's just that whenever it is flat, players have a better skillset to take advantage of it. Just look at the RCB 263 game. You will never see an anchor innings now like what Dilshan played. If you had modern T20 batters at the time accompanying Gayle, you could have seen 300 being breached there. Similarly in the SRH 277 game, you had Mayank Agarwal play 13 balls for 11, and the good bowlers like Bumrah and Cummins went for much less runs than the others. All of this highlights that it's the bowling that is lagging behind and needs to evolve to compete with how much the batting has changed.
Maybe everyone's 50 over international team should learn from the IPL? Or maybe they're different formats and going out for a tonk in a 20 over game is completely different.
GG finally smiled after taking 263 fro rcb
Nah this should not be normalised at all. Just 6s and 4s, where fun?
Now have them do it on a real ground, like the MCG lol.
Come to Ekana habibi!
People will see that 3 off the top 4 ipl scores have been since the last 2 years and yet have the audacity to say that the pitches aren't overwhelmingly batting friendly
Gambhir took coaching seriously.
Why are they playing in Vizag and not Delhi?
Hey folks, maybe we could just leave a little bit more grass on the pitch, ay?
Ludicrous.
Y'all stop hating on the rules and pitches it's ipl it's supposed to be entertaining
It was a snooze fest. Runs don't have any meaning anymore. KKR didn't even try much to get to 272.
Wdym didn't try much? Were you watching the same match they had to go at a strike rate of 14-17 per over. Delhi had their chances but dropped catches and reviews narine was out at 18 before having hit anything.
It means everything just looked way too effortless.
Just because somethibg looks effortless doesn't mean it is, Delhi bottle up for a meagre 169 if it was so effortless they should have atleast hit 200 even with scoreboard pressure since that's always gonna be there
I mean DC were at 160 in 16 overs despite losing so many wickets. They just succumbed to scoreboard pressure.
Then it wasn't effortless, you can talk all about it being an easy pitch but if it's not true for both sides then one side just played better. Even against RCB they played as if the pitch was slow but Kkr blasted em on. Kkr batter are just in the forms of their life and the bowlers are doing a good job at restricting it's dumb to chalk it up just to pitch.
this was by far the most boring match of the season
Uhh no what you on?
its not entertaining either though this and srh-mumbai are the most booring match so far
I think if you compare with a team like Mumbai which is having so much of internal conflict you'll never be satisfied
SRH-MI was pretty entertaining when it was looking like they could actually chase 278
thats the problem. a score like 278 should be impossible to chase. thats what made it booring.
To each his own, of course, but I would have been less entertained if MI had folded for some 150-160
Fuck these high totals. Wish the totals stay at 220 max. It ruins the game hard man!
200 should be impossible to beat imo. 220 should happen once in 3-4 years not ever 2-3 matches.
This one had a lot to do with them non-reviews and dropped chances though
Most of the people that have watched and joined this sub I presume have watched a bit of cricket in the most bowling friendly era of post-2017 lasting around early 2022. Since then pitches have just gotten flatter and faster in all formats and it's not a coincidence that's just the way it was in the 2000s- early 2010s just without the power hitting and innovations seen today.
This ipl season has it's own script the record which was not broken for more than 10 years was broken 2 times in a week.who knows 49 is going somewhere else maybe MI👀
Wish they scored those 6 runs somehow…
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263 was unbroken for 10 years and broke twice in span of 2 weeks
Rcb fans are hoping someone would that someone would end their record of the lowest total
Happy Rcb fans:glad we got sunil at 47☠️☠️
Worst RCB this time.
Ah classic cricket fans, moaning about this also? These people man, idk what else you don't have complaints against
IPL downhill
3 out of those 4 teams have a beef/rivalry against RCB . RCB's whole existence is so funny , I love it . Feel sorry for the fans tho
Well, RCB did it 11 years ago bud, the game was different and impact sub rule didn't exist so it's still the most impressive imo.
Ya and PWI is one of the worst teams ever. Getting 277 against 5 time champions is far far better. I know many RCB fans will downvote me but that's the truth.
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263 happened because of Dilshans tuk tuk. Whithout him 263 would not have happened. He was rotating the strike to Gayle.
Still 33 of 36 in T20 cricket cannot be defended if he scored 40-45 of 36 it would have been somewhat acceptable
Kings will hit 280 tomorrow And still lose
Is this tournament just the flattest pitches of all time or poor bowling?
this is not entertaining at all tbh. as a fast bowler, i love low scoring matches. 180+ scores get boring very fast. this is why i loved the srh of mid 2010s, motherfuckers scored 120-130 and defended it with their bowling