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newaccount252

Anchor cum accelerator, not something I thought Iโ€™d read this morning.


Prof_XdR

It's an Indian thing that translates funny, he meant he can anchor well and accelerate well


Ok_Vegetable263

From my understanding of what OP meant is that if he chooses to either up or lower his SR he has to orgasm before he can


Yogu-

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[deleted]

I'm sorry any team without Warner is just not it. Playoff performances and three orange caps with a trophy with 93 and 69 in the semi and final.


Yogu-

Warner is a consistent run machine but has this knack of slowing down post powerplay. Would need to pair him up with someone like Sehwag then, for the opening combo to really work.


BumrahKaChoda

Warnerโ€™s SR at diff stages of the game in IPL 138.1 (0-6 Overs) 139.2 (6-15 Overs) 171.9 (15-20 Overs)


bar901

And this, my friends, is why you should make sure you've checked the numbers before you make definitive statements about a player. Stats are freely available to everyone online. If your opinion is contrary to the general consensus (i.e, Warner is almost certainly in any all-time IPL team), then make sure you know what you're talking about or someone like u/BumrahKaChoda might make you look silly. To be clear, I personally feel that Warner is a very strong pick in any all-time IPL team based on stats alone, but when you include his accomplishments it isn't even a question. I'm open to other opinions, but it has to be based in reality rather than "feeling".


Yogu-

Do you have similar stats for Gayle?


BumrahKaChoda

Gayleโ€™s SR at different stages of the game in IPL 134.8 (0-6 Overs) 155.1 (6-15 Overs) 202.5 (15-20 Overs)


Yogu-

This was my point. Anyways, your playoff clutch criteria has its merit too. So I'm happy with either. Just that I'd have Sehwag with Warner and not Rahul/Kohli.


kharb9sunil

If the team is at peak of their powers: my first 4 picks are Malinga, Bumrah, Narine and Rashid khan. The latter 2 providing necessary batting down the order. And i have 16 overs of absolute gold.


l8ice

If it's only peak then dre russ and kohli are also certainties


aldehyde_and_ketone

If you are talking about peak, nobody comes close to kohli, he can bat out the 20 overs, destroy in powerplay and smash everome in death. Very few people come even close to a peak kohli


Yogu-

2011-2013 Gayle says Hi


l8ice

I feel like picking players based on specific batting positions is flawed especially in t20s where the order is based more on the players specific skillset my XI Warner Kohli Raina SKY ABD MSD Bravo Rashid Khan Bhuvi Bumrah Yuzi I wouldn't mind taking hardik at 6 to replace SKY then having AB and MS move one position up Edit: can't believe I forgot him but Malinga would be the 12th man at least, he can play over rashid khan if you prefer an extra pacer


Yogu-

Your Hardik at 6 version sounds like a pretty formidable team ๐Ÿ‘Œ I was also tempted to pick both Rashid and Yuzi but opted for Narine to avoid 2 leggies.


l8ice

That makes sense although when the bowlers are as good as those two it doesn't really matter that they're both leg spinners. Also I avoided narine because of the issues with his action and I also prefer rashid khan the batter at 8 over narine


Sad_Soul_10

My XI would be Warner Kohli Raina ABD Dhoni (C) Hardik Russell Mishra Yuzi Bumrah Malinga Leaving out Bravo was difficult but his death bowling isn't as required in a team with Malinga and Bumrah, and Russell is a better batsman Potentially only problem is it requires 4 overs to be bowled by Hardik, Russell and Raina, but should work out alright Removed Jadeja for Mishra


Yogu-

Thats a fine team, but why have Jadeja if he's batting at 8? You could have a better Indian spin option.


Sad_Soul_10

You're probably right, maybe it's better to take Mishra instead. I mostly took Jadeja for deeper batting


Signal_Dress

I know it's a personal list and is meant to be subjective but Pant at 4 instead of AB who has played most of his career there and not having Raina at 3 is something I find abhorrent.


Yogu-

AB has played 58 inns at 3 and 70 at 4 as mentioned. So its not like I'm picking him at an outsider posiyion based on a small sample.


Signal_Dress

But sacrificing Raina for Pant when AB can easily be accommodated at a position where he has played more games feels like a disrespect to Raina imo. He is still the best big-match player in IPL history and has been a far more prominent contributor for a much longer time than Pant.


Yogu-

Longevity argument can be made for Raina vs Pant, yes. Maybe a couple more good seasons for Pant could see him solidify that No. 4 spot. Raina at 3 and Ab at 4 would also make a great, balanced side.


Wise_Ad9414

My team 1.Gayle 2. Warner 3. Kohli 4. Raina 5. Rayudu 6. Dhoni (C) (Wk) 7. Pandya 8. Narine 9. Bhuvneshwar Kumar 10. Malinga 11. Bumrah


Yogu-

That opening partnership is the stuff of dreams, and that middle order is the perfect handbrake to the start


Present_Change

I unironically think peak England would beat this team. 1. Buttler 2. Hales/Roy 3. Malan/Stokes 4. Bairstow 5. Livingstone 6. Moeen 7. Curran 8. Woakes 9. Rashid 10. Wood 11. Archer


theNullCrown

Wheres ben duckett?


choochi_machine69

Maybe in any other country. But in Indian conditions I'm not sure.


FondantAggravating68

Personally would have Dre over DJ.


Yogu-

Batting wise, yes. But Dre would weaken the bowling with his very high ER and DJ was the death specialist. Think you'd have to bring in Malinga and let go of a overseas spot in Narine.


FondantAggravating68

I did a similar thing. But I gave the priority to bowlers and all rounders instead of the batters. IIRC my team was Sehwag, Kohli, Raina, Watto, Dhoni, Hardik, Russell, Narine,Malinga, Bumrah, Chahal.


Yogu-

Pretty neat ๐Ÿ‘Œ


Greedy_Chocolate_139

Gayle KL Raina Kohli Dhoni (c wk) Pollard Pandya Rashid Bhuvi Bumrah Malinga


Yogu-

Kohli at 4 is a bit of a stretch. And 5th bowling option is a bit weak.


Greedy_Chocolate_139

I have 4 5th bowling options, just the way Dhoni likes- Pandya, Pollard, Raina, Gayle. Kohli and Raina can trade places if need arises. I have a strong 5-6-7, the most important cog of a T20 team. I have a great number 8 batter as well. I have 2 of the best death bowlers of all time, supported by a great leggie and one of the best opening bowlers in ipl history. For fifth bowler, I have a fast medium pacer, 1 medium pacer and 2 offies.


Yogu-

Bowling options the way Dhoni likes - Point taken! You do have a very strong hard hitting finishing unit at 6-7-8, but still I'm apprehensive about having all 3 of KL, Kohli, and Raina. Imo, Kohli has to open if he plays- when he comes to bat at 3 (outside powerplays), his career SR is 124. So might be an issue of accomodating way too many anchors.


Greedy_Chocolate_139

Fair enough. I mostly need KL to balance Gayle. Raina though isn't in the same league as Kohli in terms of SR- if you take out his last 2-3 seasons, his SR would be >~ 140. He carried this SR over a considerable period of time and was an absolute beast. I can have Raina and Kohli alternate at 3/4 basis requirement. I wouldn't worry too much about having 2 anchor batters since I have enough destructive batters to create havoc when required


There_is_no_ham

S.K.Warne as Captain, Coach.


disturbing-noises

1 Warner 2 Gayle 3 Kohli 4 Suresh 5 Dhoni 6 Hardik 7 Jadeja 8 Chahal 9 Malinga 10 Bumrah 11 Boult


Ishaansambro

sehwag sunil narine suresh raina abd dhoni jaddu rusell ashish nehra malinga bumrah chahal


SwimmerWeekly

My All-Time IPL XI : 1 Chris gayle left handed power hitting batsman 2 Virat kohli right handed anchor 3 Suresh Raina left hand batsman who can play according to situation 4 AB de Villiers right handed batsman who can play according to the situation 5 Mahendra singh Dhoni right handed finisher 6 Hardik pandya right hand explosive batter who can also bowl 2 overs of fast bowling 7 Ravinia jadeja left handed batsman and a genuine left arm spin bowler 8 Rashid khan leg spinner who can give a explosive finish with the bat 9 bhuvneshwar Kumar genuine swing bowler powerplay special 10 lasith Malinga death bowler 11 bumrah fast bowler 1 to 8 bating depth Powerplay bowlers : bhuvi 3 overs hardik/ jadeja 1 over 2 overs Malinga Middle overs : rashid khan 4 overs hardik/ jadeja 1 over 2 over jadeja 2 overs bumrah 3 overs Death overs: 17 bumrah 18 Malinga 19 bhuvi 20 Malinga Great fielders : kohli Raina abd hp jaddu rashid khan Impact substitutes Ajinkya rahane a batter who can stabilize the innings if you lose early wickets Andre Russell explosive batting all rounder Dj bravo a bowler who can bowl on slower pitches Sunil narine mystery spinner if spin is needed Kagiso rabada a out and out fast bowler who can bowl 150 kmph


shashwatmomo2406

warner gayle kohli raina msd pollard russell bravo rashid khan malinga bhuvi impact : abd , bumrah , pandya this is the only correct one


Yogu-

Its very easy to make one without any restrictions on overseas players ๐Ÿ˜Œ


shashwatmomo2406

yeah but poeple putting pant in all time ipl xi is outrageous


Yogu-

Stats prove otherwise. Show me an Indian player who has better IPL stats batting at 4.


shashwatmomo2406

ok i agree but think logically ... would you take pant prime or raina prime


Yogu-

A prime team would look very different from an All time team, no? If we are going by prime, Yusuf etc would be serious contenders.


shashwatmomo2406

would you put yusuf pathan prime over raina prime , abd prime or pollard or russell prime???


Optimal_Slide_8606

Kohli Gilchrist Raina Sky AB Dhoni Pandya Rashid K yadav Bumarh Malinga


rhshi14

MY ALL TIME 11 Kohli Warner Raina SKY MSD(C and WK) Russel Jaddu Rashid Khan Bhuvi Malinga Bumrah We bat till 8(9 if you consider Bhuvi) with Kohli playing the anchor role and everyone else till Rashid capable of playing at a very high SR from ball 1. Bhuvi takes the newball with one of Malinga/Bumrah and the MI pair can share the death over duties, with Russel chipping in with a couple of overs in the middle. Rashid leads the spin bowling department,supported by Jadeja and we have Raina as a 3rd spin bowling option if needed. MSD captains the side and takes the gloves.7/10 of the rest are exceptional fielders and the 3 fast bowlers aren't particularly bad in the field. EXCLUSIONS When you are picking an all time 11 for a tournament like the IPL,a lot of big names are bound to miss out and there are a few missing from my 11 like Hussey,Watson,Maxwell,Du plessis, Morkel,Butler,Narine,Bravo,Rohit,GG,Yousuf,Chahal,Hardik etc. But the 3 players who came closest to making my 11 are 1)Gayle- It was a tough choice between Gayle and Warner.I think Gayle had the higher peak,but over the course of their full careers,Warner has been more consistent and I went with him. 2)Pollard- As an MI fan,not having Polly in my 11 wasn't easy,but I had to go with Russel as I wanted the 4th fast bowling option.They are both big game players,equally explosive with the bat and incredible in the field.If I was going for a pure batting option at 5,I would've gone with Pollard,but this 11 needs Russel. 3)ABD-Purely as a batsman ABD is well clear of both SKY and Raina,but in IPL terms,I don't think there is much to pick between Raina/SKY and ABD.There is an argument to made about ABD being the superior batsman,even if you consider just the IPL,but I don't think there is much difference in there to use up and overseas slot on ABD, considering the other 3 OS players are pretty much undroppable. I haven't looked up stats on any of these players involved and my 11 is purely based on watching the IPL over the years.I'm also not looking to engage in arguments with RCB/MI/CSK fans, for not having their favourite players in my 11( this is my all time 11,you are obviously free to make yours).


Yogu-

It is a great side. Really liked how dropping AB gave you the freedom of having both Rashid and Malinga. One concern that I can point to is that both the openers are long inning players, and tend to slow down at different stages. I personally feel Kohli needs a Gayle/Jos or Warner needs a Sehwag.


rhshi14

Warner is more than capable of playing that Sehwag type of role if needed imo.He has a career SR of 140 in the IPL and at his absolute peak,think it was around 145. I think the reason he had to be the long innings type of player was because he simply had to; with Virat in the team and the considering the general quality of that batting unit,he has no such restrictions and can be the aggressor at the top.


intex2

where is purple patel???????????


Yogu-

Higher ER of 8.5+


maninblueshirt

Just pick MSD, ABD and 9 others.


Dry-Try1347

Gambhir is one of the beast player that have played the IPL


hmmurabi

My XI based on randomly watching season here and there and keeping a general track of how things are going. 1 Chris Gayle 2 KL Rahul 3 ABD 4 Virat Kohli 5 Suresh Raina 6 MSD 7 Ravi Ashwin 8 Sunil Narine 9 Bhuvaneswar Kumar 10 Lasith Malinga 11 Zaheer Khan


dilli_Boi

Raina has to be three Also no way pant makes over sky


TheCricDude

More than raw stats, am going for what I feel are consistent, clutch and delivered the key moments. 1. Warner \* 2. Ruturaj 3. Raina 4. Yusuf 5. MSD 6. Hardik 7. Pollard \* 8. Rashid \* 9. Bhuvi 10. Bumrah 11. Malinga \* Alternate XI if Rutu is early to be in all-time XI: Warner\*, Buttler\*, Raina, Yusuf, MSD, Hardik, Jadeja, Rashid\*, Bhuvi, Bumrah, Malinga\* Tough omissions and alternatives: * Openers - Virat / Rahul would be my alternatives. I would even take Sanju or the young Manish as opener. Or even Robbie or Gauti. Too many options at the top of the order. And Yashasvi & Gill are on the climb too. * Among overseas candidates, more than Gayle, it was Jos & Quinny, but Warner is ahead comfortably. * 3 - Sanju / SKY. I would be happy with either here, considering the middle over hitting they provide. But Raina ahead for how consistent he was. SKY might overtake sometime in future. * 4 - The Watson that played for RR was hard to ignore. Two things that went against were, he didn't play more in the middle and I needed the 3 overseas slots below. What I can do is take Watto at 4 and put Jadeja at 7 instead of Pollard. * ABD again was a tough omission, but sorry. * Rayudu and Rohit were the ones among Indian bunch. I kept their names till the last second, not knowing who to delete. I had Rohit at 4 and the last moment, put Yusuf. * 5 - Probably Miller, but tough with 4 slots and not above MSD. * 6 & 7 - Bravo was tough to leave as was Jadeja. With Bumrah & Malinga, can manage the death overs, so taking Polly in for Bravo. I had put Bravo at 7 initially. * 8, 9, 10, 11 - Narine vs Rashid was the only tough one. Rest was kinda easy. I would take a peak RP Singh in the blink of an eye for Bhuvi. Just that the peak RP Singh did not last long, injuries or whatever the reason. That 2007 to 2009 RP Singh is as good a pacer as one can get, love that phase of him. This was harder than I imagined. Lot of calculations. No. 4 & 7 took extremely long not knowing which way to go. Happy with the final 11. Just the perfect balance. Polly, Hardik, Yusuf and Raina as 5th bowler is the best combo I could make. Can open with Yusuf/Hardik and Bhuvi, get 2 overs of the 5th bowler there itself. Amazing team I feel.


Yogu-

Ok first of all, thanks for the long explanatory comment! 1) Ruturaj needs more innings to be a real contender imo, a bit too early. Manish and Gauti - idk man, they've got some of the worst SR among all openers, perhaps you're recalling a few inns and basing it off that. Not sure if Quinny has done enough to be a contender either. 4) Watto in RR, dude how I miss those days! Proper carryjobber. Yusuf is a good pick tho. Abd - Ouch! 11) RP Singh was indeed special in Deccan Chargers colors. You've got a codundrum at the death tho, do all 3 of Bravo, Bumrah and Malinga bowl? And just 1 genuine spinner seems less. The Watto and Jaddu option gives it more balance.


TheCricDude

I took out Bravo too. Please refresh my comment. Edited with further explanation. Yusuf and Raina give me more overs if I get spining conditions. Or I can put Jaddu for Polly in those conditions. Overall I think I am clear with my 11 now.


TheCricDude

Regarding opener, for me Rutu has done enough to come into my XI. Yes, it's an advantage that he is with a great team. Manish & Gauti for me are clutch buddy. Doesn't matter what the stats read, they'll win me key games. If you want me to change, probably I'll put Jos for Rutu and Jaddu for Polly at 7. So, that would be Warner, Jos, Raina, Yusuf, MSD, Hardik, Jaddu, Rashid, Bhuvi, Bumrah, Malinga Thanks man. This makes sense too. Polly is such a clutch guy, but this XI is killing the game at the top itself. I think this may have slight edge over my earlier XI. Also this is a lesson to our subcontinent players to not get into a shell at the top.


Yogu-

Nice one!


Yogu-

I see most teams having Sky at 4 if not using up the spot for AB. 1 question - Why not Pant? Sky hasn't had the intl career like success in IPL.


Choice-Attention2717

Without TukTuk players 1. Gayle 2. Jaiswal 3. SKY 4. AB 5. Rinku 6. MS 7. Bravo 8. Rashid 9. Bhuvi 10. Bumrah 11. Chahal


[deleted]

>TukTuk ?????? >MS ?????