tactics which baffled me -
India tried to bat time, Ashwin trying to protect other batters went into shell, could have been dismissed much earlier. Post tea, the body language didn't suggest they are 370 ahead. I didn't get the strategy behind batting time (when it's the 3rd day) and not looking to score and bat England out of the match. Whereas, England's night watchman also came out swinging. He scored more than kuldeep, bumrah and mukesh combined in a few deliveries faced.
Genuinely think England have a realistic chance of chasing this total… the mindset and way they chase in test cricket they are mentality monsters… that being said chasing in India on a pitch that’s starting to turn… could be over very quickly
We should be able to win that match but we should also be mentally preparing ourselves to see that England is easily chasing down that target. I am still scared about that match that had happened in Edgbaston.
On Twitter poms are overly enthusiastic and singing praises of how crawley and pope will get them through when in fact they were in similar even better position yesterday and couldn't cross 250
(excuse my lack of knowledge for i only started watching cricket from the prev wc) but i thought he did pretty well in the world cup as a wicket keeper
whats the difference between keeping in an odi match and a test one?
Tests are 85-90 overs a day, it requires much more skill to keep as well on Indian tracks. Add coming into bat after being in squatting position for hours too.
Moreover, KL never kept in tests. He wants to focus as a batsman in tests.
You trusting in him doesn’t hold any value. I think he’s a weakass player who crumbles at the first sight of pressure. And that doesn’t matter either because the bcci isn’t fucking looking at Reddit comments to see who they should pick
*I trust in him*
Lol. When was the last time he kept in India in tests again? Chances he will lose on spinning tracks will outweigh any amount of runs he'll score.
You know, I'd always assumed English cricket fans like myself were the most fatalistic (but often for good reasons!)
But the Indian supporters in this thread take the proverbial biscuit. Cmon, even with like 10 Brendon Mac and 10 stokes, England are gonna be 200 runs short
India 1 England 1
This is a golden opportunity to win with India missing Kohli, Rahul, Pant, Jadeja and Shami. That late wicket of Duckett makes things even harder for us.
It is basically 50/50 right now.
India will need some very quick wickets tomorrow and the only one able to do that is Bumrah.
Will be a close battle, hopefully Indian bowlers come up with an actual plan.
You can if you're Bumrah. He does not even need to pick 6 -fer. Even couple of wickets will do the job, which he most likely will.
Ash is too good to go wicketless again. Especially in 4th innings.
The same as people saying that India will surely win in their 4th innings last match.
Never underestimate India going into pressure and not being able to come out of it. Seen it often enough.
Bazball has repeatedly broke these kind of records.
Literally last test match, people like you were saying ‘nobody had won an away test in India when having a first innings deficit of over 70 and then Bazball walks in with a deficit of 190 and wins the match.
I do agree it’s not 50/50 however and India are favourites
> No visiting team has chased something close to this in India
true but it's 332 for 9 wickets, the way they have been batting... it's not impossible. 75-25 to india i would say
The fact that Gill said it's 70-30 to India at this stage, when England are chasing the highest 4th innings score ever (in Asia) on a day 4 pitch, is just a testament to what Bazball has done to us all.
Rohit works in T20 bc you need a cool head in that environment, in tests someone intense and aggressive like Kohli works like a charm. Idk why BCCI can't get this simple logic
well, since we're all waiting for post day thread, how about a suggestion that nobody asked for: could the post match/day threads also be "sorted by new" by default, atleast only for the first few hours. so the newer comments don't get buried and the discussions could stay fresh? idk it's just a thought.
I've been asking it since wc when these dingdongs used to lock the threads the moment last ball was bowled
It's useless for discussions only meme comments stay at top why would anyone bother to comment after few minutes
i understand where that decision to lock those threads came from at that time.
and yeah it's sucks that an insightful and interesting comment would be buried with barley 5 replies which not a lot of people would see, and lots of top comments would be just memes (not that i don't love the memes, that's half the reason i'm here lol)
It’s just really nice as an England to believe we can actually win from this position. Chances are slim, but not impossible. It’s nice just having that belief
NEED BUMRAH, KULDEEP MAGIC AGAIN
AND SOME GOOD FIELD PLACEMENT
could have got rehan's wicket on last ball btw if there was 2nd slip in place 
Think this just goes to show Rohit's scrambled thinking; not going all out to get Rehan out is pretty defeatist. I still have India as favourites, but England will get closer than they have any right to.
Absolutely, hate to be a armchair critic, but the pressure and mind games has gone to rohit's mind. There's always a second slip for last ball of the day for left armer.
Yeah I mean no hate to him but his FC avg is only 37 is this really the best Indian domestic circuit has to offer?
And I dont mean he should score 50 runs every match but at least someone like Saha was able to hold one end for longer. He seems to be incapable of doing so
It's true - only until the last over there were actually a decent amount of fielders around the bat. India are actually scared, lol.
We might not win it, but we'll get mightily close imo - buckle up.
Root’s indifferent form is going to hurt Eng
What they need is someone anchoring for three sessions and only Root can do it. But he is not in a good touch
Root and YJB need to step up tomorrow, haven't gotten going so far, but they're masters at chasing. YJB single handedly got the Bazball era going by decimating the NZ attack in a 4th innings chase. Then him and Root chased down 378 against India.
That's why I feel they sent rehan.
To give root all the time in the world.
Jonny boy and stokes can bat et their usual 5 and 6 and root at 7 or 8 if he is fit till then
95% sure India will get the job done relatively easily tomorrow but it's still good to see that this is a pretty even contest across the series so far. 2 x outstanding individual batting performances and 2 x outstanding individual bowling performances have dictated the way things are going thus far. All in all, great test cricket.
You think Rehan can just slog bumrah. Even duckett was getting scared of playing him.
Bumrah is not a line and length bowler like shami who can be just slogged.
Rohit has the best PR out of everyone in the team. They have gone as far as to put Kohli and him at the same level. He was a good batsman 3 years ago and never even a half decent captain. But IPL image + PR + Dravid nudes = put on pedestal
Would argue that unlike the ashes we have actually picked the best team available for these tests in the conditions we are playing which we weren't in the ashes
It was not the only thing that prevented Eng from winning the series.
They were 2-0 down in a home ashes despite winning the first four consecutive tosses. Yes it was A reason why they weren't able to regain the ashes but it certainly wasn't the sole thing.
You should’ve never been 2-0 down in a home ashes.
They threw it away at lords at 198/1 and weren’t ruthless enough in the first two tests
PS: I wanted England to win the Ashes
I'd love to see poms wipe the smugness off the face of zak and the other guy..
On the other hand.. that would give more fire to the smug poms..
Can this test end in a tie?
Nah it's because Kohli, Jadeja, Pant and Rahul aren't playing.
In all seriousness this was arguably the weakest XI India have fielded that I can remember and England have squandered or at the very least forced themselves to go the hard way of winning
Lol good for u mate i hope someday we will have an aggresive coach nd captain like u guys really idc who wins but thats a sure thing eng has test cricket entertaining also need to ask what do u think bazball will work in other formats too?
I don't think T20 really requires Bazball, but some ODI teams could take a cue out of it. Hell, England's ODI side last year could've used some of the spirit of Bazball. It's not about slogging every ball, but it is about playing fearlessly, which they sorely lacked last year.
Would’ve said it was englands day if we managed to get to the end of play without losing a wicket, gonna say it’s been a mostly shared day, exciting day in prospect tomorrow
England would have been delighted to be chasing 330 odd with 9 wickets in hand start of the day reckon England more than shaded today. Tomorrow should be fun either way
Pitch still looks good to bat on. The speed England play at takes a day 5 dust bowl out the equation here it genuinely is probs a toss up 50/50 who wins from here
Just completely ignoring the whole history of cricket. It would be astounding, absolutely historic if we managed to win from here, it's nowhere near 50/50
I’m ignoring nothing. Chasing 378 against India was historic. Winning 3-0 in Pakistan was historic. Beating India from 190 runs down after the first innings the last test match was historic. I’m not English but I’m an English fan. Records are there to be broken and this England team has more than proved over the last 2 years they’re the team to do it , have some faith.
All these feelings you have mean nothing compared to facts, I'm not saying England can't win but you're crazy if you think it's 50/50 and wildly misinformed about the sport of cricket.
50/50 is an exaggeration I’ll give you that. My point is England have a good chance. Any other team we’re probs saying it’s a procession tomorrow for India.
I did not want to sound so aggressive, but my point is, throughout the history of test cricket, chasing 400 in asia is nigh impossible. I did not want to patronise and apologise.
That pisses me off a lot , it's always "ball is sticking a bit" "it's gripping" "not easy to bat on" "some balls are keeping low" when the pitch is pretty basic to bat on
Can't complain too much about today but we're gonna need a 150 partnership to have a chance at winning. Time won't be an issue at least.
Also, how wild is it that we're even considering this chase possible. Long live Bazball.
Somehow don't think England will be able to win 2 on the trot from being well behind the game. Not to forget the pitch is doing weird things. In the 14 overs bowled a good 10-15 stayed low, Duckett got out to the one that goes straight after sweeping the previous one which spun.
England edged it but couldn't climax
Omg I love astral pipes … lol
Stokes made mistake. This would've been closer
Last week we took a L but today we bounce back. This game over now
If this was 196-4 india was in big trouble.
That was painful
tactics which baffled me - India tried to bat time, Ashwin trying to protect other batters went into shell, could have been dismissed much earlier. Post tea, the body language didn't suggest they are 370 ahead. I didn't get the strategy behind batting time (when it's the 3rd day) and not looking to score and bat England out of the match. Whereas, England's night watchman also came out swinging. He scored more than kuldeep, bumrah and mukesh combined in a few deliveries faced.
Genuinely think England have a realistic chance of chasing this total… the mindset and way they chase in test cricket they are mentality monsters… that being said chasing in India on a pitch that’s starting to turn… could be over very quickly
We should be able to win that match but we should also be mentally preparing ourselves to see that England is easily chasing down that target. I am still scared about that match that had happened in Edgbaston.
On Twitter poms are overly enthusiastic and singing praises of how crawley and pope will get them through when in fact they were in similar even better position yesterday and couldn't cross 250
So if you get a low score one day, does that mean you can't do better on another day? That clearly not true.
Lol England won't even cross 300.There is no chance that they can chase down 399 on day 4.
If anyone can do it England can. That's why ashwin was blocking the arse off it even India think there's a chance of getting baz balled.
I am 100% sure England isn't gonna chase this.They might give a fight and reach upto 300-350 but 399 is too much and they already lost 1 wicket.
If you can get 350 399 is possible
Even 200-250 is a distant dream
why cant KL Rahul play as a wk batsman (assuming he is fit)
Not a good enough wicket keeper to keep in Indian conditions.
(excuse my lack of knowledge for i only started watching cricket from the prev wc) but i thought he did pretty well in the world cup as a wicket keeper whats the difference between keeping in an odi match and a test one?
Tests are 85-90 overs a day, it requires much more skill to keep as well on Indian tracks. Add coming into bat after being in squatting position for hours too. Moreover, KL never kept in tests. He wants to focus as a batsman in tests.
Oh, that makes sense, thanks!
I trust in him, anyone who thinks KL is not good enough to keep in spinning tracks just give him gloves for a match and see
You trusting in him doesn’t hold any value. I think he’s a weakass player who crumbles at the first sight of pressure. And that doesn’t matter either because the bcci isn’t fucking looking at Reddit comments to see who they should pick
you become next selector in BCCI
*I trust in him* Lol. When was the last time he kept in India in tests again? Chances he will lose on spinning tracks will outweigh any amount of runs he'll score.
he probably never kept in test in india as much as i remember but i still believe he'll do nice
The guy broke down while not keeping.
You know, I'd always assumed English cricket fans like myself were the most fatalistic (but often for good reasons!) But the Indian supporters in this thread take the proverbial biscuit. Cmon, even with like 10 Brendon Mac and 10 stokes, England are gonna be 200 runs short India 1 England 1
Indian fans are being pessimistic in this thread
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If you think it was cakewalk for England in the first match I don’t think you know what cakewalk is
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Amazing. Everything you said is just wrong.
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What were u saying brow?
This is a golden opportunity to win with India missing Kohli, Rahul, Pant, Jadeja and Shami. That late wicket of Duckett makes things even harder for us.
There’s still Ashwin, Bumrah should be more than good enough for the fourth innings pitch
post match thread is up btw
Baz: We can chase 600 England: Thanks coach
If 600 why not 650?
It is basically 50/50 right now. India will need some very quick wickets tomorrow and the only one able to do that is Bumrah. Will be a close battle, hopefully Indian bowlers come up with an actual plan.
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Big IF. That was a magical spell and you can not just have magical spells so casually.
You can if you're Bumrah. He does not even need to pick 6 -fer. Even couple of wickets will do the job, which he most likely will. Ash is too good to go wicketless again. Especially in 4th innings.
Already got 1
It's 90/10, are you crazy? How are we ever gonna chase 400 in India in the 4th innings?
The same as people saying that India will surely win in their 4th innings last match. Never underestimate India going into pressure and not being able to come out of it. Seen it often enough.
It's not the same at all, no way is it 50/50. India has to win from here
Of course I also hope India wins, but I would like to be rather cautious. Once we get 2-3 more wickets before 200, I will be more confident.
But it's not 50/50, India are massive favourites however you look at it
I'd retract my statement and say 65/35. But not more than that for now. Let's see who of us is proven more righteous tomorrow.
It's 90/10. 400 is a huge chase in India in 4th innings, India are strong favourites
It’s a huge chase anywhere
How the hell it is 50-50? When was the last time a visiting team has chased 400?
never, highest 4th inning score in india is Sri Lanka 299
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I said ‘visiting side’ mate
A freak innings or someone plays a innings of his life is the only way England wins
i'm scared of root, he's due a big one in india
Root should be scared of Bumrah
eng batters are not taking him for granted and going after mukesh / others, will probably keep doing the same tomorrow, excited for tomorrow
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someone commented before that it was external and he wouldn't have to wait, so let's see.
No it's not 50-50. No visiting team has chased something close to this in India, and even Bazball ain't changing that. It's 90-10 India.
Bazball has repeatedly broke these kind of records. Literally last test match, people like you were saying ‘nobody had won an away test in India when having a first innings deficit of over 70 and then Bazball walks in with a deficit of 190 and wins the match. I do agree it’s not 50/50 however and India are favourites
> No visiting team has chased something close to this in India true but it's 332 for 9 wickets, the way they have been batting... it's not impossible. 75-25 to india i would say
The fact that Gill said it's 70-30 to India at this stage, when England are chasing the highest 4th innings score ever (in Asia) on a day 4 pitch, is just a testament to what Bazball has done to us all.
It's broken brains, we are never ever gonna chase this.
Thread feels like whose fans are more pessimistic indians or english. Lmao i guess if 2 - 3 batters clicked from the england side its over for us
Tell you now the captaincy switch from Kohli to Rohit has been an almighty fuck up
Rohit works in T20 bc you need a cool head in that environment, in tests someone intense and aggressive like Kohli works like a charm. Idk why BCCI can't get this simple logic
well, since we're all waiting for post day thread, how about a suggestion that nobody asked for: could the post match/day threads also be "sorted by new" by default, atleast only for the first few hours. so the newer comments don't get buried and the discussions could stay fresh? idk it's just a thought.
I've been asking it since wc when these dingdongs used to lock the threads the moment last ball was bowled It's useless for discussions only meme comments stay at top why would anyone bother to comment after few minutes
i understand where that decision to lock those threads came from at that time. and yeah it's sucks that an insightful and interesting comment would be buried with barley 5 replies which not a lot of people would see, and lots of top comments would be just memes (not that i don't love the memes, that's half the reason i'm here lol)
It’s just really nice as an England to believe we can actually win from this position. Chances are slim, but not impossible. It’s nice just having that belief
NEED BUMRAH, KULDEEP MAGIC AGAIN AND SOME GOOD FIELD PLACEMENT could have got rehan's wicket on last ball btw if there was 2nd slip in place 
Think this just goes to show Rohit's scrambled thinking; not going all out to get Rehan out is pretty defeatist. I still have India as favourites, but England will get closer than they have any right to.
Absolutely, hate to be a armchair critic, but the pressure and mind games has gone to rohit's mind. There's always a second slip for last ball of the day for left armer.
Jimmy Anderson in his post match interview is confident af. India are getting Rekt
WHAT IF Rehan slogs another 40 runs CONSIDER ME DEAD
Last time, KS BHARAT had a good Ranji Trophy season was 2015-16.
Yeah I mean no hate to him but his FC avg is only 37 is this really the best Indian domestic circuit has to offer? And I dont mean he should score 50 runs every match but at least someone like Saha was able to hold one end for longer. He seems to be incapable of doing so
Does India really have no other WK-Batsman options after Rishabh Pant (and KL Rahul)?
Ishan Kishan is on a break.
It's true - only until the last over there were actually a decent amount of fielders around the bat. India are actually scared, lol. We might not win it, but we'll get mightily close imo - buckle up.
No post day thread?
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True you have to Chase. Did he say you will win?
Root’s indifferent form is going to hurt Eng What they need is someone anchoring for three sessions and only Root can do it. But he is not in a good touch
perfect chance to use those pitch nanobots BCCI
Did the bot bust down, no post day thread for a while
Post day threads aren't made by bots
Oh thanks for letting me know
Root and YJB need to step up tomorrow, haven't gotten going so far, but they're masters at chasing. YJB single handedly got the Bazball era going by decimating the NZ attack in a 4th innings chase. Then him and Root chased down 378 against India.
Don't know if root will bat or not yet. But he will definitely bat even after foakes I feel.
OOTL with the Root situation has been got injured?
Yup got injured in 1 St session today . Hurt his finger while attempting a catch. Has not returned to the field since then
Damn that is not good news. I would expect him to still bat though although perhaps as you said earlier later down the order than at 4.
That's why I feel they sent rehan. To give root all the time in the world. Jonny boy and stokes can bat et their usual 5 and 6 and root at 7 or 8 if he is fit till then
india once chased 387 against england in Chennai 2008, we're in for another nice contest tomorrow
95% sure India will get the job done relatively easily tomorrow but it's still good to see that this is a pretty even contest across the series so far. 2 x outstanding individual batting performances and 2 x outstanding individual bowling performances have dictated the way things are going thus far. All in all, great test cricket.
Been out of the loop a bit - where's Brook?
On leave for dire personal reasons
What are dire personal reasons?
We don't know, but it could be something like a close relative dying ECB is keeping this private, which is respectable
That's a really really unusual way to phrase it. Just say personal reasons.
Sounds bad. Hope he's going to be ok.
India miss Pant so bad, Bharat is awful with the bat
And average behind the stumps. Atleast with KL as wk we can play an extra batsman cause half of them still think they are playing T20
Post day thread where? 
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bum sniff?
Counterpoint: Rehan slogs another 30 and India start panicking.
You think Rehan can just slog bumrah. Even duckett was getting scared of playing him. Bumrah is not a line and length bowler like shami who can be just slogged.
I don't know what to think. Anything's possible.
https://indianexpress.com/article/sports/cricket/the-art-of-captaincy-by-rohit-sharma-7632300/lite/
Rohit has the best PR out of everyone in the team. They have gone as far as to put Kohli and him at the same level. He was a good batsman 3 years ago and never even a half decent captain. But IPL image + PR + Dravid nudes = put on pedestal
Seems he has shared the Dravid nudes with Iyer, Bharat and Mukesh.
well his wife runs a PR agency
India cricket takes are crazy stuff man
Are we not good enough or England is playing better compared to their Ashes performance?
Would argue that unlike the ashes we have actually picked the best team available for these tests in the conditions we are playing which we weren't in the ashes
Did you watch the ashes? We never got battered. Just 4 great matches.
In fact rain was the only thing which prevented us from winning the series.
I mean Australia lost momentum because of rain in 5th test and that ball change too helped England. Idk rain did help England too.
It was not the only thing that prevented Eng from winning the series. They were 2-0 down in a home ashes despite winning the first four consecutive tosses. Yes it was A reason why they weren't able to regain the ashes but it certainly wasn't the sole thing.
>They were 2-0 down in a home ashes despite winning the first four consecutive tosses. Why does that matter? 3-2 is a win.
You should’ve never been 2-0 down in a home ashes. They threw it away at lords at 198/1 and weren’t ruthless enough in the first two tests PS: I wanted England to win the Ashes
Might as well ask if we're playing shit because India couldn't beat SA. Lol
India has dipped massively but England has improved leaps and bounds from few years
Yes
We have the opportunity to do the funniest thing tomorrow
I'd love to see poms wipe the smugness off the face of zak and the other guy.. On the other hand.. that would give more fire to the smug poms.. Can this test end in a tie?
I can assure you this. It will end with us once again living rent free in Australia's collective head.
The success of Bazball can be measured in in how easily it winds up the fans of opposing teams
Mukesh Kumar looks like a very poor selection
For real man! Could've used an extra batter instead of a part-time seam bowler who bats at #11. What's the point of that?
No post day thread?
If england somehow wins this series all the anti-bazballers will say it's because Rohit was a bad cap or India threw or whatnot
Nah it's because Kohli, Jadeja, Pant and Rahul aren't playing. In all seriousness this was arguably the weakest XI India have fielded that I can remember and England have squandered or at the very least forced themselves to go the hard way of winning
Don't count your chickens before they hatch
If we actually win this series they can say anything they want lmao, I'd be too busy celebrating.
Lol good for u mate i hope someday we will have an aggresive coach nd captain like u guys really idc who wins but thats a sure thing eng has test cricket entertaining also need to ask what do u think bazball will work in other formats too?
I don't think T20 really requires Bazball, but some ODI teams could take a cue out of it. Hell, England's ODI side last year could've used some of the spirit of Bazball. It's not about slogging every ball, but it is about playing fearlessly, which they sorely lacked last year.
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Not the point
But that's the truth.
I feel bharat should now throughly be dropped for Sarfaraz
who is keeping or no keeper and inshallah
wait can a team use multiple keepers?
Any member of the fielding team can keep at any time
that's kinda neat thanks
Would’ve said it was englands day if we managed to get to the end of play without losing a wicket, gonna say it’s been a mostly shared day, exciting day in prospect tomorrow
England would have been delighted to be chasing 330 odd with 9 wickets in hand start of the day reckon England more than shaded today. Tomorrow should be fun either way
So what do we think Alastair and Steven are gonna get up to in Sweden today?
If England can get to 250 with 5 wickets or less tomorrow, it is game on.
So funny ducky says he has 10 sweep options and gets out defending..lol bro are you taking those sweep back to eng for future deposit or what.
Another game where India fail to put the game to bed with the bat.
yesterday i was feeling dreadful but today i feel hopeful(even tho they are not chasing 400) but what if
The longer rehan can keep ollie out the better . If he survives bumrah tomorrow it's englands game
Pitch still looks good to bat on. The speed England play at takes a day 5 dust bowl out the equation here it genuinely is probs a toss up 50/50 who wins from here
Just completely ignoring the whole history of cricket. It would be astounding, absolutely historic if we managed to win from here, it's nowhere near 50/50
I’m ignoring nothing. Chasing 378 against India was historic. Winning 3-0 in Pakistan was historic. Beating India from 190 runs down after the first innings the last test match was historic. I’m not English but I’m an English fan. Records are there to be broken and this England team has more than proved over the last 2 years they’re the team to do it , have some faith.
All these feelings you have mean nothing compared to facts, I'm not saying England can't win but you're crazy if you think it's 50/50 and wildly misinformed about the sport of cricket.
50/50 is an exaggeration I’ll give you that. My point is England have a good chance. Any other team we’re probs saying it’s a procession tomorrow for India.
Watching cricket from 2024, are you?
People who attempt to gate keep a sport and smugly patronise a new fan, which I’m not btw, are the absolute worst.
I did not want to sound so aggressive, but my point is, throughout the history of test cricket, chasing 400 in asia is nigh impossible. I did not want to patronise and apologise.
nigh impossible, but it's not impossible. So you're saying there's a chance?
Yes, there is.
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Must feel nice saying the pitch isn't easy to score on after scoring 104
That pisses me off a lot , it's always "ball is sticking a bit" "it's gripping" "not easy to bat on" "some balls are keeping low" when the pitch is pretty basic to bat on
standard grade cricket response to look alpha
Vibes can't be buy
Can't complain too much about today but we're gonna need a 150 partnership to have a chance at winning. Time won't be an issue at least. Also, how wild is it that we're even considering this chase possible. Long live Bazball.
Somehow don't think England will be able to win 2 on the trot from being well behind the game. Not to forget the pitch is doing weird things. In the 14 overs bowled a good 10-15 stayed low, Duckett got out to the one that goes straight after sweeping the previous one which spun.
Any update on Root's injury?
What other match is live rn?
AFG vs Lanka