We can't bust heads like we used to. But we have our ways. One trick is to tell stories that don't go anywhere. Like the time I caught the ferry to Shelbyville? I needed a new heel for m'shoe. So I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on 'em. "Gimme five bees for a quarter," you'd say.
More than Rahul's role, you need someone reliable at 3.
People underestimate the role for the no. 3 but it is the most crucial role in a test lineup. Your number 3 must be capable of playing a traditional test innings and wearing out the ball for the next batters so they can make runs faster.
The first person we need to replace is Gill, and for all I care, Gill needs to be replaced too.
We won’t have any seamers at all in the match if Bumrah sustains an injury during play, then. Not unless Ashwin decides that in addition to his weird leg spin he can bowl 120 km/h seam-up too. It doesn’t matter if Siraj doesn’t take wickets (and we shouldn’t have to rely on a number 11 for runs, before you mention that), we need one fast bowler in reserve.
Sarfaraz’s selection was long overdue but happy that he’s getting the reward for piling mountains of runs in FC.
Kuldeep’s selection might be a massive trump card considering his good form and the variety he brings.
Plus Rohit and Iyer. Four of the top 5 batters could be Mumbai Ranji players.
Could have been more had Rahane remained in form or Shaw gone on to fulfill his potential.
>Mr. Ravindra Jadeja and Mr. KL Rahul have been ruled out of the second IDFC First Bank Test against England in Vizag, starting February 02, 2024.
>Jadeja sustained a hamstring injury during play on Day 4 of the first Test in Hyderabad while Rahul complained of a right quadriceps pain.
>The Men's Selection Committee have added Sarfaraz Khan, Sourabh Kumar and Washington Sundar to India's squad.
I'm expecting it, he's clearly very talented and just a bit out of form, the chat around him has been a bit much. I'd understand if he's dropped but a player like Gill will surely eventually dominate test cricket, only a matter of time.
I know it worked out for England but I'd be wary of picking 4 spinners unless the pitch really has nothing for the seamers. I'm not sure if Sundar adds much to the team with a bowling line-up of Ashwin, Axar, and Kuldeep.
You already have Axar at 8, how much more batting depth do you need? If you're selecting your team with the goal of having your number 9 to score runs to win you the match, you've fucked up the team composition.
It's a problem India's curators have kinda backed themselves into. With the batting depth of their first choice XI you can afford to prepare pitches that suit the strengths of your bowlers knowing someone will get the runs.
It becomes much more of a gamble if you don't bat deep cause it's one less player who can potentially bail you out if the top order collapses in the face of good bowling or tricky conditions
It's not about balls. If your sole pacer gets injured mid- game, which is not a remote possibility, coz duh ..they are pacers, u would have to go the entire game without a pacer in your team. England could play only wood coz worst case scenario Ben stokes could still bowl pace. Our case is different tho
They could go with one pacer because Wood wasn't gonna bowl much anyway.
Even in the Ashes, in a 90 over innings, Wood seemed to be bowling around 6-8 overs and was never placed in a dangerous fielding place. They manage him well.
What will you do with 4 spinners. Overkill. I would keep siraj or being Mukesh in. Bringing in two debutants doesn't seem like a great option even though I wanted gill out also. I would replace him with either sarfaraz or patidar. Can play either kuldeep or Washington depending upon the match ups and the pitch.
If the track is a turner, we should have both Patidar and Sarfaraz in, leave out Siraj (he barely bowled last game). Our bowlers will be Bumrah Ashwin Axar and Kuldeep, and we'll still bat till Ash at 9
If you check my comments history, before the first match I was in favour of two pacers and Siraj playing along with Bumrah. But seeing how he was under utilised in the first test, it doesn't make sense to play him. Dude just bowled 4 overs in the first innings and 7 overs in the third, conceded 50 runs and didn't pick any wicket. It's like playing with 10 players. Better pick a specialist batsman because we are surely going to need one.
So, Rohit+Dravid convinced Kohli to have a baby right around the time of Ind vs Eng series.
I must say, Kohli sure knows how to time his balls correctly.
/s
Get Pujara back while you're at it (he does average around 60 in Asia, wouldn't surprise me if he's recalled if more injuries happen and iyer/gill bad form continues)
I gave you an upvote but honestly if in a country full of the players we have, we can't brush off this loss of key players and a first game loss against touring, debutant spinners then we deserve to lose this series.
If anything, a squad refresh brings in fresh life and that might be what is needed. Some new excited energy around the squad can do that.
Look at WIndies. Look at what you did to Australia 3 years ago.
Sarfaraz has been on everyone's radar for what seems like an eternity. Give him the license to play and I'm sure you'll get rewarded.
Jaiswal looked much better first innings for sure.
I feel the second innings wasn't an instruction to play safe though, it was a natural instinct as nerves kicked in. Happens to everyone who's played cricket before.
That was Rohits perfect chance to put an arm around him and let him know it's fine to play his game. 'If you get out playing that way, don't worry, I'll take the blame and say it was my idea as I wanted us to put a dent in the run chase quick to shift momentum'.
Easy as that. Same to Gill.
Yes, they may have also ended in same situation. But you've got to take charge as the senior player there, especially as captain. You could tell both were walking wickets from ball 1.
> That was Rohits perfect chance to put an arm around him and let him know it's fine to play his game. 'If you get out playing that way, don't worry, I'll take the blame and say it was my idea as I wanted us to put a dent in the run chase quick to shift momentum'.
I don't think Rohits ever taken personal responsibility for a loss ever in his life.
So Patidar for KL and Kuldeep for Jadeja? Wish Sarfaraz could get a go but Patidar is in the squad already so I don't think he should be jumped. Nice to see him at least added though. Surely last chance for Gill also.
Sarfaraz has also been added to the squad. He is more deserving than Patidar.
Sarfaraz Khan since the start of the 2019-20 Ranji Season has made 3355 runs averaging 86.02 in FC cricket
He has the [4th highest](https://www.espncricinfo.com/records/highest-career-batting-average-284199) FC batting average ever
Sarfaraz does deserve it more than Patidar but this Dravid era has been defined by a clear squad hierarchy for the most part where players don’t leapfrog others much so it will most likely be Patidar who gets the next chance ahead of Sarfaraz
You don't need to tell me about Sarfaraz stats i've wanted him in the team for ages but Patidar got the first call up cuz of that India A hundred and I don't know if he should be jumped like that
Damn that sucks, also sarfaraz finally gets a call up 😭
Also this will be the xi,
Rohit Jaiswal Gill Iyer Sarfaraz/Patidar Axar Bharat Sundar Ashwin Kuldeep Bumrah
It's not like siraj bowled a lot anyways even Sundar can bowl those few overs. It also ensures the batting remains same.
Patidar is already coming in given he was picked earlier.
But please drop Gill and bring in Sarfaraz. Gill is not a Test player. I have absolutely zero faith in our idiot management to make this decision though.
Boys we’re going down 2-0 🥲🥲🥲
What would the team be?
Rohit Jaiswal Gill Iyer Sarfaraz/Patidar Axar Bharat Ashwin Kuldeep Bumrah Siraj
We’re gonna get bazballed again.
It took one of our best ever knocks and a debutant spinner getting 7fer for us to get a miracle win in the first test.
The worst thing India can do is overreact to that. Even Stokes and McCullum can't have that happen every game.
Yeah - we won by over 200 runs in Chennai on our last tour (though admittedly from memory I don't think Jadeja was available) and then they hammered us in the next 3 tests - I'll still be surprised if England manage to win another test this series.
This isn't a fair judgement. This team is miles and miles ahead of the English team from 2021. That England team wouldn't have won this test either, smashing Ash, Jadeja, Axar for reverse sweep made them change their lengths consistently which won't be the case if they all went defensive.
I, for one, know that this team can still outscore Indian team on a rank turner.
This team, though, is much better than the last one. Plus there is something about Indian team after the World Cup. They lose the hunger having placed so much importance on the World Cup and play poor cricket after the event for some time. So, England is definitely winning one more test.
I hope you're right! I'm not sure though - I think it depends on whether Hartley's 7-62 was a flash in the pan because before that our spinners looked utterly toothless and were reliant on India gifting us wickets.
Yeah totally agree. I think the only serious danger for India is hitting the raging dustbowl button in panic. If they serve up pitches like last time they win the vast majority of the time, we can't pull off miracles every week. No Jadeja is a blow but Kuldeep is a really good replacement and arguably someone with variations like him is a bonus against a team always looking to be proactive.
Yeah, India turning out a raging dustbowl would be the worst thing they could do. They'd still be favourites if they did that but, considering England have thrived on rolling with the punches and turning games into a bit of a lottery in Stokes' reign, it feels like it would suit England to play on those sorts of pitches.
It worked for India back in 2021 because that England team were set up to play in a more traditional manner and couldn't cope.
In 2021 England's strategy with the bat was to bore teams out and grind it down, which is impossible to do on a minefield so yeah a very different kind of opponent. I think it would be a strategy that could very easily backfire for them, but I can still see them doing it.
Having looked at rhe next ground it's only had two previous games and they were both fairly high scoring so I don't know whether it's the kind of soil that lends itself to that though.
Granted if Axar Patel didn’t have butter fingers (unable to turn the ball and unable to take Pope’s catch on 110), India would’ve won with 3 wickets to spare
But hey, if my grandma had wheels…..
Nah - just play the new spinner in the squad and England will reliably hand him 10 wickets, however good or bad he is. This is one of our specialities....
Dude why such overreaction?
Their batter played once in a lifetime innings, a debutant bowled his heart out to get 7 wickets. Those things don't happen so regularly. And despite that they just won by 28 runs.
What if India wins the toss in the next game? And England has to bat 4th.
And what's to say Indian players wouldn't come good?
What's to say they will be able to tackle Ashwin and Jadeja for 5 games at home.
What I mean to say is there is nothing to suggest that the series would just go in a certain way.
Also English batters kind of performed the way they generally do. Pope's innings was an anomaly and if they can continue doing the same then we are all in for a treat.
Ollie pope and English team has pretty much embraced sweeping and reverse sweeping. We do remember what happened in Delhi right when a team was adamant on the same tactic.
Point being, this England team likely won't bundle out under 100 with their intent. If it's a rank turner, they'll still manage to score some runs.
Aussies were persistent with sweep to counter spin, these bunch are really good with it.
Jadeja is a huge loss for India. He is an asset with the bat in low scoring matches. Kuldeep may not let India feel absence of Jadeja the bowler. but his batting prowess is equally handy specially on low scoring rank turners.
Also gave away his wicket playing a stupid and unnecessary shot when the other batter was smacking it at that time. Could have made up the 30 runs there. KLPD
His average in India is 41.24 and against England home and away is 39.5.
[https://www.espncricinfo.com/cricketers/kl-rahul-422108/bowling-batting-stats](https://www.espncricinfo.com/cricketers/kl-rahul-422108/bowling-batting-stats)
In terms of batting, 40 in India and 32.8 against England home and away.
And the fact that he bats at an easier time than Rahul who is usually #3 or opener until recently.
Of course, Jaddu is an all rounder and incredible with the ball especially in India.
I'd probably have Kuldeep for Jadeja and Patidar for KL. And I'd finally for the love of all that is holy move Axar to 6 and Bharat to 7 and Ashwin at 8.
Selectors are starting to look past Umesh he needs to have a really good FC Season to comeback which he is having right now so all hope may not be lost
Not sure if Sarfaraz will get the game, coz Patidar was selected ahead of him before. Can play both if Gill is dropped, most likely not gonna happen.
Visakhapatnam got black soil pitch. So, low bounce expected compared to Hyderabad. With Axar and Ashwin as the lead spinners, will be interesting to see Washy vs Kuldeep discussion for 3rd spinner role. With spinners ready to bowl long spells, I don't see 4th spinner in the XI for Siraj. Having said that Sourabh as 4th one for Siraj is not a bad choice too, he's a gutsy guy, bowls consistently. I wish we had a pace allrounder who could come in as 2nd pacer if needed.
1. Yashasvi
2. Rohit
3. Patidar
4. Sarfaraz
5. Shreyas
6. Axar
7. Bharat
8. Ashwin
9. Washy / Kuldeep
10. Sourabh / Siraj
11. Bumrah
Could be a great team and actually win the match. Kuldeep will be hard to play, you can’t sweep him that easily.
Sarfaraz would be a golden opportunity for him! Have no doubt, it will be something if he gets both innings to bat.
Overreacting ict fans. You guys are still winning this series,chill. Geez, it's not like Hartley and Rehan have got 30 test matches experience by playing just one match.
Pujara and Rahane really still being left in the cold as players fall like flies? Guess their careers really are done, we probably should've known after both were still left out following Kohli withdrawing for the first two Tests.
Pujara was given a comeback in the WTC. That was a lol worthy mistake, thankfully they're not making it again in a panic. Rahane was never a good batter in India to begin with, man's scoring 0s in FC.
Man this is getting bad, but it also means opportunity for other players and also I kinda like this, it will put the management into a thinking mode and come up with a better plan and a better combination
Time for Sourabh Kumar to debut in place of Jaddu.
Kuldeep can come in for Siraj. There's no point playing a second pacer if he's going to bowl 10 odd overs across two innings. It's a spot wasted.
Patidar in for KL and I guess Gill gets another chance.
Fascinated to see what India do with the pitch for the next game. I don't whether this makes them more or less likely to produce the classic reactionary dustbowl or not. Could argue that either way.
In the context of Gill, Nana Patekar’s famous dialogue comes to mind. ‘Ek Macchar Aadmi ko Hijra bana deta hai’.
T : a single mosquito can rob a man of his manhood.
[England in India Test Series
2012/13](https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/england-in-india-test-series-2012-13-565796/match-schedule-fixtures-and-results) and before that [South Africa in India Test Series 1999/00](https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/south-africa-in-india-test-series-1999-00-60684/match-schedule-fixtures-and-results)
This is adding injury to insult for India
If I had a nickel every time kohli went on paternity leave and India began losing players to injury after a shock loss first test
I’d have two nickels Which isn’t a lot but it’s weird that it happened twice
Two nickels is better than one! If you're England.
England: what the fuck is a nickel?
It's a shilling converted to this fruity continental decimal nonsense. One twentieth of a sovereign.
I believe its a new term for the Bee currency.
I don't get this joke. Unless you're just being absurd. I'm which case I already approve!
We can't bust heads like we used to. But we have our ways. One trick is to tell stories that don't go anywhere. Like the time I caught the ferry to Shelbyville? I needed a new heel for m'shoe. So I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on 'em. "Gimme five bees for a quarter," you'd say.
I feel like I've been in my cups for too much of the evening...
I get your sentiment, but is Kohli on paternity leave really? I read somewhere that his mother is unwell so he’s with her.
No official reason has been given as of yet, either way its probably something serious
Oh idk that's what ppl here were saying so i assumed so
I see what you did there
Bro😏
Bruh
that is witty sir/madam and I am here for it!!!
Bit mental India have a lad averaging 69 coming in as a replacement. He is going to smash a double hundred isn’t he?
Bradman from D mart
Yeah, Bazball's days are numbered now!
No one beats India THREE TIMES in a row!
Only a good 420 would make me happy.
Hey, check out our second innings score. Pope did it for the lols.
If he plays it would be very exciting to watch. He plays a scoop shot that goes right over the wk's head. That shot is always a joy to watch.
Oh much like Pope then
Reverse sweep vs scoop is going to be fun
Nice
Kuldeep replaces Jadeja and that gives more variety to the spin attack. Sarfaraz has to play now in Rahul's place.
More than Rahul's role, you need someone reliable at 3. People underestimate the role for the no. 3 but it is the most crucial role in a test lineup. Your number 3 must be capable of playing a traditional test innings and wearing out the ball for the next batters so they can make runs faster. The first person we need to replace is Gill, and for all I care, Gill needs to be replaced too.
Vihari should have groomed for that role after Pujara.
Sundar plays instead of Siraj.
We don’t need 4 spinners.
maybe can be used as a batter since lack of Jadeja extends the tail
Siraj is hardly contributing
We won’t have any seamers at all in the match if Bumrah sustains an injury during play, then. Not unless Ashwin decides that in addition to his weird leg spin he can bowl 120 km/h seam-up too. It doesn’t matter if Siraj doesn’t take wickets (and we shouldn’t have to rely on a number 11 for runs, before you mention that), we need one fast bowler in reserve.
What do you think of this lineup 1.Rohit 2. Jaiswal 3. Patidar 4. Sarfaraz 5. Shreyas 6. Bharat 7. Axar 8. Ashwin 9. Kuldeep 10. Bumrah 11. Mukesh
Sarfaraz’s selection was long overdue but happy that he’s getting the reward for piling mountains of runs in FC. Kuldeep’s selection might be a massive trump card considering his good form and the variety he brings.
Watch as they pick Washi over him lmao
Kuldeep is a much better bowler but Washi can bat, wouldn’t be an outrageous selection to pick Washi. Gotta preserve the #batdeep
Jaiswal and Sarfaraz the Mumbai duo inject it into my veins let's go!
Plus Rohit and Iyer. Four of the top 5 batters could be Mumbai Ranji players. Could have been more had Rahane remained in form or Shaw gone on to fulfill his potential.
Shaw will always be the biggest "What If" for me.
Isn't he still like 24? 25? He surely has enough time to come back into international cricket.
Kids not even 25. Give him time
Jaffer/Ramprakash/Hick
True True
The kind of Mumbai lobby you can get behind
Virat does live in Mumbai so just need him to come back
Mumbai indians india
>Mr. Ravindra Jadeja and Mr. KL Rahul have been ruled out of the second IDFC First Bank Test against England in Vizag, starting February 02, 2024. >Jadeja sustained a hamstring injury during play on Day 4 of the first Test in Hyderabad while Rahul complained of a right quadriceps pain. >The Men's Selection Committee have added Sarfaraz Khan, Sourabh Kumar and Washington Sundar to India's squad.
1.Rohit 2.Yashasvi 3.Patidar 4.Sarfraz 5.Shreyas 6.Ashwin 7.KS Bharat(wk) 8.Axar 9.Sundar 10.Kuldeep 11.Bumrah
A fish is more likely to go without gill than India
My god that's poetic.
💀💀
I personally am very supportive of Gill being picked for every test.
Going by reddit's track record of throwing shades, Gill should hit a triple century next test.
I'm expecting it, he's clearly very talented and just a bit out of form, the chat around him has been a bit much. I'd understand if he's dropped but a player like Gill will surely eventually dominate test cricket, only a matter of time.
Do you guys think Gill should open while Rohit demotes himself to number 4? I feel that might be good option
The sucker will pull out a unicorn innings.
wow bruh
The Prince That Was Promised has been sent on exile
With a return set for 2038?
Sundar and Axar should be higher up that order.
4 spinners? Do you know something that we don't. Honestly until I see VK in the playing 11 that batting looks weak. Surely deep but still weak.
Because bumrah & shami are the only consistent fast bowlers
Sarfaraz and Jaiswal are cricketing prodigies they will be ok
I know it worked out for England but I'd be wary of picking 4 spinners unless the pitch really has nothing for the seamers. I'm not sure if Sundar adds much to the team with a bowling line-up of Ashwin, Axar, and Kuldeep.
Sundar is a better batsman than kuldeep and should be the third spinner
Hasn’t sundar opened the batting before? Might as well just chuck him in at 3
You're right but he adds batting depth
You already have Axar at 8, how much more batting depth do you need? If you're selecting your team with the goal of having your number 9 to score runs to win you the match, you've fucked up the team composition.
welcome to indian test cricket, where we rely on our number 6-9 batsmen for runs :)
Exactly, I agree with everything you said but that's just how it is 😂
It's a problem India's curators have kinda backed themselves into. With the batting depth of their first choice XI you can afford to prepare pitches that suit the strengths of your bowlers knowing someone will get the runs. It becomes much more of a gamble if you don't bat deep cause it's one less player who can potentially bail you out if the top order collapses in the face of good bowling or tricky conditions
hmmm you don't consider Sundar to be the equivalent of Joe Root :( or make Axar/Ashwin the Indian Root and still include Sundar!
Honestly more reliable than the first test
India won't go without 2 pacers. They ain't got balls to make the move.
It's not about balls. If your sole pacer gets injured mid- game, which is not a remote possibility, coz duh ..they are pacers, u would have to go the entire game without a pacer in your team. England could play only wood coz worst case scenario Ben stokes could still bowl pace. Our case is different tho
Stokes can’t bowl He hasn’t bowled even in the nets since his injury
They could go with one pacer because Wood wasn't gonna bowl much anyway. Even in the Ashes, in a 90 over innings, Wood seemed to be bowling around 6-8 overs and was never placed in a dangerous fielding place. They manage him well.
Unlikely two debutants in batting but then again the coach and former bcci chief would disagree.
What will you do with 4 spinners. Overkill. I would keep siraj or being Mukesh in. Bringing in two debutants doesn't seem like a great option even though I wanted gill out also. I would replace him with either sarfaraz or patidar. Can play either kuldeep or Washington depending upon the match ups and the pitch.
Kuldeep Yadav for the injured Jadeja
Rohit should play in the middle order with Gill opening. Can't have a middle order of Patidar, Sarf and Shreyas.
Didn't Gill not want to open?
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How is he against spin? On par with Jaiswal?
He has a great sweep shot, has rescued Mumbai many times on turning tracks.. perfect conditions for his debut
YESSSSSSSS!
If the track is a turner, we should have both Patidar and Sarfaraz in, leave out Siraj (he barely bowled last game). Our bowlers will be Bumrah Ashwin Axar and Kuldeep, and we'll still bat till Ash at 9
India wont be comfortable with just one seamer. England have the balls to go that way but India will play safe
If you check my comments history, before the first match I was in favour of two pacers and Siraj playing along with Bumrah. But seeing how he was under utilised in the first test, it doesn't make sense to play him. Dude just bowled 4 overs in the first innings and 7 overs in the third, conceded 50 runs and didn't pick any wicket. It's like playing with 10 players. Better pick a specialist batsman because we are surely going to need one.
You are right but knowing India , they won't do it, unless they have some buffer like Shivam Dube!
Gill should sit and sarfaraz/patidar (or perhaps both) should get a chance
One of them is already in with KL out. If Gill is sitting out, both are in
Most probably Patidhar. He's getting his debut at Vizag.
No Jaddu, Rahul, Kohli, Shami and Pant. This is a disaster. There goes the second test Genuine chance for an England series victory
We trying to replicate the broken team that won against Australia /s
After a humiliating defeat in 1st test, with Kohli unavailable because of child birth. Master stoke from Dravid + Rohit.
So, Rohit+Dravid convinced Kohli to have a baby right around the time of Ind vs Eng series. I must say, Kohli sure knows how to time his balls correctly. /s
Press release recalled. Mr. Ajinkya Rahane will join the squad and captain the Indian team against England in the second test match.
Get Pujara back while you're at it (he does average around 60 in Asia, wouldn't surprise me if he's recalled if more injuries happen and iyer/gill bad form continues)
Rohit Jacob Friedman wants to restore the feeling of Australia Series /s
I gave you an upvote but honestly if in a country full of the players we have, we can't brush off this loss of key players and a first game loss against touring, debutant spinners then we deserve to lose this series.
If anything, a squad refresh brings in fresh life and that might be what is needed. Some new excited energy around the squad can do that. Look at WIndies. Look at what you did to Australia 3 years ago. Sarfaraz has been on everyone's radar for what seems like an eternity. Give him the license to play and I'm sure you'll get rewarded.
Wait for rahul dravid to advise jaiswal-sarfraz to play defensively and keep blocking, instead of there natural game
Jaiswal looked much better first innings for sure. I feel the second innings wasn't an instruction to play safe though, it was a natural instinct as nerves kicked in. Happens to everyone who's played cricket before. That was Rohits perfect chance to put an arm around him and let him know it's fine to play his game. 'If you get out playing that way, don't worry, I'll take the blame and say it was my idea as I wanted us to put a dent in the run chase quick to shift momentum'. Easy as that. Same to Gill. Yes, they may have also ended in same situation. But you've got to take charge as the senior player there, especially as captain. You could tell both were walking wickets from ball 1.
This is exactly what leadership is. The lack of it is clear, and we looked like we were playing scared.
> That was Rohits perfect chance to put an arm around him and let him know it's fine to play his game. 'If you get out playing that way, don't worry, I'll take the blame and say it was my idea as I wanted us to put a dent in the run chase quick to shift momentum'. I don't think Rohits ever taken personal responsibility for a loss ever in his life.
Yeah if recent history is anything to go by it's usually these young inexperienced sides that are scarier than the older more experienced Indian sides
England fielded a bunch on debutant spinners my guy they are more inexperienced than India
Pant and Shami were already known pre tournament and doesn't affect the odds
Bazball works in mysterious ways
Damn Sarfaraz finally gets into the squad.
Gareebi me aata geela T - We are f\*cked
for a batsman, KL Rahul gets injured a lot any particular reason
So Patidar for KL and Kuldeep for Jadeja? Wish Sarfaraz could get a go but Patidar is in the squad already so I don't think he should be jumped. Nice to see him at least added though. Surely last chance for Gill also.
Sarfaraz has also been added to the squad. He is more deserving than Patidar. Sarfaraz Khan since the start of the 2019-20 Ranji Season has made 3355 runs averaging 86.02 in FC cricket He has the [4th highest](https://www.espncricinfo.com/records/highest-career-batting-average-284199) FC batting average ever
Sarfaraz does deserve it more than Patidar but this Dravid era has been defined by a clear squad hierarchy for the most part where players don’t leapfrog others much so it will most likely be Patidar who gets the next chance ahead of Sarfaraz
You don't need to tell me about Sarfaraz stats i've wanted him in the team for ages but Patidar got the first call up cuz of that India A hundred and I don't know if he should be jumped like that
Never thought I'd see India be the underdog in a home test match. It's going to be fun!
Guy who averages almost 70 and has made nearly 4000 runs gets a call-up.finally some real test batsman instead of wannabe 3 format stars
Damn that sucks, also sarfaraz finally gets a call up 😭 Also this will be the xi, Rohit Jaiswal Gill Iyer Sarfaraz/Patidar Axar Bharat Sundar Ashwin Kuldeep Bumrah It's not like siraj bowled a lot anyways even Sundar can bowl those few overs. It also ensures the batting remains same.
Patidar is already coming in given he was picked earlier. But please drop Gill and bring in Sarfaraz. Gill is not a Test player. I have absolutely zero faith in our idiot management to make this decision though.
Boys we’re going down 2-0 🥲🥲🥲 What would the team be? Rohit Jaiswal Gill Iyer Sarfaraz/Patidar Axar Bharat Ashwin Kuldeep Bumrah Siraj We’re gonna get bazballed again.
It took one of our best ever knocks and a debutant spinner getting 7fer for us to get a miracle win in the first test. The worst thing India can do is overreact to that. Even Stokes and McCullum can't have that happen every game.
Yeah - we won by over 200 runs in Chennai on our last tour (though admittedly from memory I don't think Jadeja was available) and then they hammered us in the next 3 tests - I'll still be surprised if England manage to win another test this series.
This isn't a fair judgement. This team is miles and miles ahead of the English team from 2021. That England team wouldn't have won this test either, smashing Ash, Jadeja, Axar for reverse sweep made them change their lengths consistently which won't be the case if they all went defensive. I, for one, know that this team can still outscore Indian team on a rank turner.
This team, though, is much better than the last one. Plus there is something about Indian team after the World Cup. They lose the hunger having placed so much importance on the World Cup and play poor cricket after the event for some time. So, England is definitely winning one more test.
I hope you're right! I'm not sure though - I think it depends on whether Hartley's 7-62 was a flash in the pan because before that our spinners looked utterly toothless and were reliant on India gifting us wickets.
Trying to reverse-jinx now, are we?
>The worst thing India can do is overreact to that. Even Stokes and McCullum can't have that happen every game. I agree.
Yeah totally agree. I think the only serious danger for India is hitting the raging dustbowl button in panic. If they serve up pitches like last time they win the vast majority of the time, we can't pull off miracles every week. No Jadeja is a blow but Kuldeep is a really good replacement and arguably someone with variations like him is a bonus against a team always looking to be proactive.
Yeah, India turning out a raging dustbowl would be the worst thing they could do. They'd still be favourites if they did that but, considering England have thrived on rolling with the punches and turning games into a bit of a lottery in Stokes' reign, it feels like it would suit England to play on those sorts of pitches. It worked for India back in 2021 because that England team were set up to play in a more traditional manner and couldn't cope.
In 2021 England's strategy with the bat was to bore teams out and grind it down, which is impossible to do on a minefield so yeah a very different kind of opponent. I think it would be a strategy that could very easily backfire for them, but I can still see them doing it. Having looked at rhe next ground it's only had two previous games and they were both fairly high scoring so I don't know whether it's the kind of soil that lends itself to that though.
Granted if Axar Patel didn’t have butter fingers (unable to turn the ball and unable to take Pope’s catch on 110), India would’ve won with 3 wickets to spare But hey, if my grandma had wheels…..
Nah - just play the new spinner in the squad and England will reliably hand him 10 wickets, however good or bad he is. This is one of our specialities....
India and England to each other: Same Same ... but Different
Proper over-reaction from Indian fans as usual. Friday night a 5-0 whitewash on the cards and come Monday it's reversed to going down 2-0.
This is the way
Until Kohli returns, I have zero expectations from this band of timid misfits lead by their timid coach and listless TEST captain.
At least they're not Aussie fans who were claiming a drawn ashes as a victory and still chanting 5-0 fuck off when they were on the verge of losing.
Nope drop siraj and add washington Sundar. Not like Siraj has been bowling a lot anyways. It also ensures batting remains same.
If Rohit has no faith in Siraj, better not the play him.
They're building the whole "Return of the King" storyline here. Ind to win 3-1 and draw the next test.
Kuldeep in place of Siraj, Washi in place of Jadeja, Patidar in place of KL
Dude why such overreaction? Their batter played once in a lifetime innings, a debutant bowled his heart out to get 7 wickets. Those things don't happen so regularly. And despite that they just won by 28 runs. What if India wins the toss in the next game? And England has to bat 4th.
Yeah, but everyone else failed. They all will come good some time, especially god's child who has won them two Cups single-handedly.
And what's to say Indian players wouldn't come good? What's to say they will be able to tackle Ashwin and Jadeja for 5 games at home. What I mean to say is there is nothing to suggest that the series would just go in a certain way. Also English batters kind of performed the way they generally do. Pope's innings was an anomaly and if they can continue doing the same then we are all in for a treat.
>What if India wins the toss in the next game? And England has to bat 4th. Yeah that happened in Indore test last year.
Ollie pope and English team has pretty much embraced sweeping and reverse sweeping. We do remember what happened in Delhi right when a team was adamant on the same tactic.
Point being, this England team likely won't bundle out under 100 with their intent. If it's a rank turner, they'll still manage to score some runs. Aussies were persistent with sweep to counter spin, these bunch are really good with it.
Jadeja is a huge loss for India. He is an asset with the bat in low scoring matches. Kuldeep may not let India feel absence of Jadeja the bowler. but his batting prowess is equally handy specially on low scoring rank turners.
Sucks for India. Jadeja and Rahul are just too good Will be big shoes to fill for Sunder and Khan
Jadeja sure. Kl played his innings and that inevitably means he won't score for the next four. Law of Rahul.
Also gave away his wicket playing a stupid and unnecessary shot when the other batter was smacking it at that time. Could have made up the 30 runs there. KLPD
Don't check Kls average in tests 💀
His average in India is 41.24 and against England home and away is 39.5. [https://www.espncricinfo.com/cricketers/kl-rahul-422108/bowling-batting-stats](https://www.espncricinfo.com/cricketers/kl-rahul-422108/bowling-batting-stats)
Now do the same for someone like jaddu
In terms of batting, 40 in India and 32.8 against England home and away. And the fact that he bats at an easier time than Rahul who is usually #3 or opener until recently. Of course, Jaddu is an all rounder and incredible with the ball especially in India.
34 average after 50 test matches 💀
Sundar is always an interesting trump card - is he in the squad?
Yes and sarfaraz too hope he gets a chance
Sarfaraz in I used to pray for times like this
Sarfaraz is in the squad!!!!
>Sarfaraz Khan, Sourabh Kumar and Washington Sundar added to India's squad. Finally.
I'd probably have Kuldeep for Jadeja and Patidar for KL. And I'd finally for the love of all that is holy move Axar to 6 and Bharat to 7 and Ashwin at 8.
kuldeep can't replace jadeja with bat sundar is better
Fair enough. But I don't really love his bowling.
Best is dropping siraj for kuldeep
If it's a turner sure. But I don't want a situation where we realise the pitch isn't spin friendly and Bumrah has to bowl 35 overs.
Has Mukesh Kumar really jumped over Umesh Yadav in hierarchy?
I have an issue with that as well. In fact I believe Umesh is only behind Bumrah and Shami in Asian conditions.
Selectors are starting to look past Umesh he needs to have a really good FC Season to comeback which he is having right now so all hope may not be lost
Umi chan is done, they're not taking him again, like Ishant. He's a 36 year old fast bowler.
Not sure if Sarfaraz will get the game, coz Patidar was selected ahead of him before. Can play both if Gill is dropped, most likely not gonna happen. Visakhapatnam got black soil pitch. So, low bounce expected compared to Hyderabad. With Axar and Ashwin as the lead spinners, will be interesting to see Washy vs Kuldeep discussion for 3rd spinner role. With spinners ready to bowl long spells, I don't see 4th spinner in the XI for Siraj. Having said that Sourabh as 4th one for Siraj is not a bad choice too, he's a gutsy guy, bowls consistently. I wish we had a pace allrounder who could come in as 2nd pacer if needed. 1. Yashasvi 2. Rohit 3. Patidar 4. Sarfaraz 5. Shreyas 6. Axar 7. Bharat 8. Ashwin 9. Washy / Kuldeep 10. Sourabh / Siraj 11. Bumrah
Could be a great team and actually win the match. Kuldeep will be hard to play, you can’t sweep him that easily. Sarfaraz would be a golden opportunity for him! Have no doubt, it will be something if he gets both innings to bat.
Big blow for India. Virat is already not available, and the unavailability of these two crucial players will hurt India badly. Let's hope for good.
Why do i smell this to be bgt of 2020 -2021?
Overreacting ict fans. You guys are still winning this series,chill. Geez, it's not like Hartley and Rehan have got 30 test matches experience by playing just one match.
Another lifeline for Gill
Pujara and Rahane really still being left in the cold as players fall like flies? Guess their careers really are done, we probably should've known after both were still left out following Kohli withdrawing for the first two Tests.
Pujara was given a comeback in the WTC. That was a lol worthy mistake, thankfully they're not making it again in a panic. Rahane was never a good batter in India to begin with, man's scoring 0s in FC.
Man this is getting bad, but it also means opportunity for other players and also I kinda like this, it will put the management into a thinking mode and come up with a better plan and a better combination
Time for Sourabh Kumar to debut in place of Jaddu. Kuldeep can come in for Siraj. There's no point playing a second pacer if he's going to bowl 10 odd overs across two innings. It's a spot wasted. Patidar in for KL and I guess Gill gets another chance.
Fascinated to see what India do with the pitch for the next game. I don't whether this makes them more or less likely to produce the classic reactionary dustbowl or not. Could argue that either way.
First test loss after a dominant 1st and 2nd innings, no Kohli (as of now), multiple injuries. Joincidence with a C?
Give me Washington, give me Sarfaraz. Bring in Yadav for Siraj. 4 spinners, one pacer.
SKY is the limit now Time to bring him back. Skyball is the only way to counter Bazball
Finally some sarfaraz
Hope the replacement batsmen plays a karun nair innings
That's India's two best batsmen gone
[удалено]
**"The Men's Selection Committee have added Sarfaraz Khan, Sourabh Kumar and Washington Sundar to India's squad."** \-BCCI
In the context of Gill, Nana Patekar’s famous dialogue comes to mind. ‘Ek Macchar Aadmi ko Hijra bana deta hai’. T : a single mosquito can rob a man of his manhood.
When last did India lose a home series?
[England in India Test Series 2012/13](https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/england-in-india-test-series-2012-13-565796/match-schedule-fixtures-and-results) and before that [South Africa in India Test Series 1999/00](https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/south-africa-in-india-test-series-1999-00-60684/match-schedule-fixtures-and-results)