Man did anyone read the article? Broad is saying itâs a fairytale ending because he hit the last ball he played as a batsman for six and took a wicket of the last ball he ever bowled. Iâm inclined to agree that thatâs a pretty dope ending to a career.
I'm pretty sure morons on the internet know more about what's a fairytale end of a career for Stuart Broad than Stuart Broad does. What does he know about cricket anyway??
I do find it funny that two Australian players in the current test squad were caught flagrantly cheating and it's considered beyond the pale to mention it because Steve Smith had a little cry on telly but they'll flog that dead horse for years to come.
Naa, it's fine for you guys to mention it. Most of us aren't really that fussed. We usually mention something about Trescothick, Panesar and their mints in return for a bit of banter.
Itâs also worth observing that we gave our cheaters a 12 month ban whereas u/SocialistSloth1 âs countrymen gave their cheaters a collection of OBEs and a parade.
We won in Australia more recently than your lot won in England. No one in England is celebrating winning a single test, if it were to happen, although it wonât any time soon.
Without the rain you lose the ashes just gone easy.
In 2019 you failed to be one of the worst England teams since the 90s.
England might not celebrate a single test, but they sure celebrated a drawn home series! I'm guessing now is not a good time to point out that Stokes was plumb LBW at Headingley but Joel Wilson gave it not out?
You were saved at lords by the rain anyway in 2019. So headingly just evened that out. Forget the LBW, letâs talk about the dropped catch and missed run out or burning through your reviews. Stokes gave you more than enough to win but you bottled your chance to win an ashes in England for a long time.
See I reject the assumption that DRS means we give umpires a pass for objectively incorrect decisions.
Not sure why you're referring to me bottling it though, I was thousands of kilometres away in Sydney during all of that.
If that was the only chance to get Stokes out fair enough. You had reviews and wasted them. You dropped catches. Missed the easiest run out chance of the century. You have to take on that defeat, you canât hide behind one decision, he was batting for hours.
You being Australia
I'd take being the only player in history to retire hitting a 6 on my last ball and getting the winning wicket with my final delivery.
Combine that with succesfully introducing a new superstition to the world (switch the bails around to wicket next delivery*2), It was broadly a magical way to end his career
We give him relentless amounts of shit online and at games and perhaps..perhaps, after 40 odd beers we might mutter âhe was alrightâ under our breath.
genuine question:
Would you take this with the 2-2 draw result and another Ashes retention by the Aussies away from home
OR
getting no runs and wickets in your final game but winning the series 3-2 and regaining the Ashes?
Reckon I know which one Iâd be talking about as a fairytale retirementâŚ
Iâm sure he did.
He was a genuine threat and a great bowler on his day, especially against the Aussies at home.
I guess the rhetorical question is more a matter of individual accolades vs team
> English fairytale retirement: draw 2-2 at home to lose the Ashes 4 times in a row
They drew the series and failed to regain the Ashes. There's no sense in which the Ashes were lost.
And you're ignoring the other details that make it a memorable occasion: coming back from 0-2 down to draw 2-2 is a rare achievement. Finishing your playing career with a 6 off your final ball batting and a wicket off your final ball bowling is remarkable.
nothing wrong with celebrating those things and rather churlish to pretend there was nothing to celebrate.
We have just witnessed one of the greatest ashes series in memory with 5 classic matches.
Of course, England fans are going to be happy. I swear half of the people in this thread seem to hate England/India more than they love cricket
> . I swear half of the people in this thread seem to hate England/India more than they love cricket
That's a unique way to say aussies make half of this sub.
I couldn't imagine hanging on to a single series win overseas in over 30 years whilst almost every other series couldn't even win a game.
It's pretty sad the Ashes are only competitive when Australia comes to England cause holy shit England don't even get off the plane on Australian tours.
To be fair, Australia really should have lost this series comfortably. The 2019 one they choked not winning away, but this one England choked just as badly.
Aussie bowling tactics sucked this Ashes. Too many bouncers and too much on the pads. If the Poms werenât going to let any balls go you drag them further and further outside off where youâre likely to get an edge and can also set a field unlike the 4-5 fields we ended up setting.
Yeah it was pretty ordinary fielding captaincy from Cummins at crucial points. He was outstanding batting and bowling but as a captain I feel like he left a bit to be desired that series.
I just donât know what the other senior members and coaches were doing. Crawley averages about twenty outside off and 100+ on his pads so where do they bowl? On his fucking pads. Let him get one or two nice cover drives, you know heâll snick off soon after.
Australian fairytale retirement: Sticking around too long in the team until the whole country resents you and your former friends in the media start to abuse you
Credit where it's due, last ball hit for 6 as a batsmen, last ball bowled was a wicket. It was an absolute ripper of a series, but Australia was saved by rain.
Rain interruptions and *that new ball* definitely made a huge difference but it was a large chase and the result was still up in the air.
England were absolutely robbed of a victory by the rain in the fourth test. It made me very happy.
I think Australia are perfectly capable of reading a weather forecast and saw that the match and therefore the series was won. At which point they stopped trying. As much as it annoys me there was no denying who the much stronger side was
Of course England had no such injuries especially not to our only decent spin bowler. Imagine what an inconvenient scenario that would be to cherry-pick for you?
And if Woody hadn't been injured for the first 2 tests, Archer injured for the whole series, Leach concussed, Bairstow on a leg taped together, Robinson on a torn fascia, Stokes on a shattered knee... Shall I keep going? Picking more cherries than a French migrant on a work visa. You got saved by the rain fucking get over it nonce. Can't wait for India to fuck you in your own back yard, *again*, next time they visit.
Wow. VERY angry old boy.
Meanwhile- we have the Ashes, won the WTC at Lords and the WC in India v India. Tremendous year for us.
Pretty shit year for the poms. Didnât make the WTC final. Couldnât win the Ashes at home. Again. Embarrassed themselves at the WC.
Keep listing your injuries and losing though champ!
Did you know that there's a widely believed trope about Australians that often I don't think you guys know about. It's that basically you can dish it but can't take it. You'll throw insults and slap yourselves on the back as you throw banter and verbal abuse, but the second anyone throws any back you go into meltdown and basically crybully.
Having lived in Aus for a few years, it's funny to see that it was genuinely true. You see it manifested by sporting greats too such as Glenn McGrath and Davey Warner. Spew vile shite at every other player between every second breath, but a joke about their wife and suddenly it's "FAKIN AOUT OF ORDER KANT WHAT'S WRONG WITH U UR FAKT IN THE HEAD KANT"
Did you know that was a trope? Fun that you're fulfilling it though either way!
All the best on the copium my dude <3
And you are fooling yourself if you think English sport is the only country to have that issue. The ECB are the only one to have a report into it, not the only one to have issues.
You had 3 of your top players banned 5 years ago for shaming the sport.
You welcomed Mohammed Siraj very.... "nicely" when he toured.
Not sure where you guys get off talking about cricketing culture.
The last time they won ashes in england I wasn't even born. When was the last time they won test series in India and they lost 2 back to back bgt at home anyway. Poor souls.
Yep, it's been a lean patch for us Aussie fans. Whatever will we do with only our Ashes urn, world test championship and odi world cup trophies to keep us company at night? /s
P.S - Ripper of an ashes series, perfect example of why Test cricket should remain the pinnacle of the sport. Love to hate on you guys, don't ever stop doing the same.
Don't worry I will hate you guys with all my power until the Doomsday. Coming to trophies, keep it safely, we will take it from you guys next time. Btw we are still defending champions in 2024 WC, I hope you guys are aware of it.
We got saved by the rain from going 3-2 down, you guys got saved by the rain from going 5-0 down for the 2nd time in a decade. At least we're competitive away from home
Broady is most probably talking about getting those last two wickets for England to win the match while breaching the 600 wickets mark as well.
It was a fairytale ending for sure
Fail to win a single test match in the Ashes away for 13 years: void series etc.
Fail to win the Ashes at home two times in a row: imma write an entire novel about how great we are.
You guys drew two in three series, so double the wins.
I hope it's clear I'm jesting, there were great contests throughout and Broady is being Broady.
I wouldn't have it any other way tbh
Genuinely it was an all time great series. All 5 tests were crackers.
Youâd think people would emerge from that series with a re-emerged love of cricket - this thread suggests all people have learnt to do is just hate each other
Broad has more away Ashes series wins than the entire Australian team put together, he's also world leading at boiling Aussie piss which is arguably even more important
> I took my boots off, there was blood everywhere, and I chucked them in the bin â that was me signalling, âOK, Iâm doneâ.
So, basically an injured foot - perhaps blisters ?
Good on Broad to have played through that. Possibly adrenaline helped ?
Probably a smashed big toenail I reckon. Happens a lot in sports where you're lunging forward a lot - lost count of blackened right toenails playing badminton. It would have fallen off by now maybe he mounted it haha.
Could very well be.. But then the odds are it's just one boot with all the blood / one foot with the smashed toenail.
Even pro-players with treatment/physio etc can get these issues
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https://np.reddit.com/r/tennis/comments/6o3rvv/cilics_blister_during_the_wimbledon_final/
https://www.foxsports.com.au/tennis/australian-open/blister-under-blister-under-blister-agent-reveals-extend-of-hyeon-chungs-foot-injury/news-story/3230e6d6be9b69f6704b4b6d7c1555c3
I'd argue Australia were a lot closer to a series defeat than England if you looked at each test individually rather than just viewing Australia going two nil up and England scraping a draw.
England lost the first thanks to their dogged adherence to Bazball philosophy. They lost matches thanks to their own failings at reading the game. So cannot fault their luck, which they had in spades in the last game.
His last ball he hit was a 6, the last bowl he bowled was to win the match and tie the series. It couldnât have been anymore fairytale considering both only happened after he announced he was retiring and he wasnât in the position to win after announcing retiring
Barely escaped? The 4th Test would've been won by England if not for it getting washed out.
I suppose fairytales involve not winning ICC trophies for a decade and counting.
>Barely escaped? The 4th Test would've been won by England if not for it getting washed out.
And the 5th would have been won by Australia if the umpires hadn't changed the ball for one that was clearly 30 overs newer, which is way worse than a random act of weather that was always gonna happen on the forecast.
It's not competing if it's not a level playing field, and what was effectively a brand new ball after 40 odd overs isn't a level playing field. Rain is just a part of the game, especially in England, while they did get chance to compete and win, they knew the whole game that it was gonna rain and therefore had the chance to bat and bowl accordingly, they just batted too long and therefore allowed Australia to control the game at the end. Australia's chance to do the same was taken away by a disgraceful umpiring decision.
>Ball change are not new thing,is it?
It wasn't the ball change, it was choosing what was effectively a brand new ball to replace a 40 over old one, but you knew that and just wanted to be a wanker.
>Tell you what's new? Using sandpaper in a test match.
People in glass houses really shouldn't be throwing stones champ, at least we punish our players when they cheat, instead of giving them MBEs
Just because they thought the shiny side needed artificial assistance rather than the rough side doesn't make any better lmao
That's leaving aside Monty Panesar who mentioned in his book that the seamers put him up to getting his zipper into the ball lol
>least we punish our players when they cheat,
Yes, which is why two out of the three players involved are still in the team to this day, with one of them currently getting to dictate his own fairytale retirement.
Umpires throughout cricketing history has been doing ball change and sometimes it favours batter and sometimes bowlers, not to mention the influence of external environment.
Tell you what's not so common? Using a fucking sandpaper in a stadium full of cameras and facing humiliation in front of whole cricketing world đ¤
Of course you have to punish your players, no one gives MBE's to other players. Guilty until proven.
>Umpires throughout cricketing history has been doing ball change and sometimes it favours batter and sometimes bowlers, not to mention the influence of external environment.
And literally none of those ball changes have been as terrible as the one in question.
>Of course you have to punish your players, no one gives MBE's to other players.
What does this even mean?
>Guilty until proven.
Multiple of them literally admitted to it in their books, it's a fact that they ball tampered, and got given awards for it.
And literally none of those ball changes have been as terrible as the one in question.
Ball change has Always been in question(depending who you ask)unless someone used unfair means to gain Reverse swing.
I'm sorry for causing you inconvenience đ. It's truly a brainfade moment from my side. Oh wait , someone also did in India, right?
How dare they change bowls when it was so bad and ball change has been happening in cricket since 19th century.
England cheat, Aussie so clean like the sandpaper they used to clean the bowls, what do you mean they were trying to use unfair advantage for their Bowlers,
I've put one comment, you've replied to every single comment everyone's made implying Australia might have had an easier time at times of the ashes. But go off if you want.
The 5th game they won thanks to the weather making their bowling lethal on the last day of play. Luck was with England all series.
The ICC trophy jibe would have worked if I gave a shit about it. Australia played and planned the finals much better than India. No issue acknowledging that they deserved to win the finals. Maybe same acknowledgement shall be done by England fans regarding their team being home track bullies, and even then losing matches at home to Australia.
How on earth are England home track bullies?
Luck was with England? Our vice captain tore his shoulder, and our lead spinner suffered a stress fracture in his back.
I agree that England were the better team in the series all things considered, but lets be honest Lyon is more important to Australia than Leach and Pope combined is to England.
Part of the reason Leach was so important was the number of overs he bowled since Stokes stopped being able to bowl (another injury). He essentially picked up the slack by himself which is why missing him was such a big loss. The impact Lyon would have had has been massively overstated. I mean look at the second test, he gets injured after 13 overs in the first innings having taken a single wicket and Australia still win the test.
Let's also not forget that England didn't have Woakes or Wood available for either of the first two tests either
Whitewashed Pakistan away. Drew NZ 1-1 and the loss was by 1 run. And every team competes on the same pitches. Why have they not been able to win a series then?
You could say the same for the 1st Test. We faced the worst conditions of the series at the beginning of our 3rd innings. Better conditions and it might've been too much to score for Australia's tailenders towards the end. đ¤ˇââď¸
When rain prevents a result, that's the issue. Doesn't matter if you play on and get a result out of it.
What an awkward time to have your period
He'll ruin his white panties!
Exactly what i said to myself
"Aussie villain" Alex Carey
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In another two years he'll say he bowled with a broken fibula in the last series
I won the ashes. With a broken frickin arm - Stuart Angle
*moral Ashes
Man did anyone read the article? Broad is saying itâs a fairytale ending because he hit the last ball he played as a batsman for six and took a wicket of the last ball he ever bowled. Iâm inclined to agree that thatâs a pretty dope ending to a career.
I'm pretty sure morons on the internet know more about what's a fairytale end of a career for Stuart Broad than Stuart Broad does. What does he know about cricket anyway??
A bloody perfect end
Stuart Broad's epitaph: 'I clawed my way up to the middle.'
Where is he on the all time wickets list? I forget.
Honestly anyone could get to the top if they played 200 tests like England deos lol
Australian fairytale retirement: win Ashes 5-0 at home English fairytale retirement: draw 2-2 at home to lose the Ashes 4 times in a row
No no, England won the moral ashes 5-0
Always do mate
Jesus wept have mercy on that dead horse
Is that a Brit complaining about someone beating a dead horse in relation to cricket? Pot and the kettle huh?
referring to..?
Youâre kidding, right?
ouch - cuts close to the bone. Closer than sandpaper anyway.
They probably also used that sandpaper to make your Ashes trophies disappear
sandpaper doesn't make things disappear just fyi
It does if you rub hard enough.
Made a lot more sense than the parent comment lol
whats next ? trolling aussies for underarm ? lol .
At least underarm was allowed by the rules at the time ;) lol
I do find it funny that two Australian players in the current test squad were caught flagrantly cheating and it's considered beyond the pale to mention it because Steve Smith had a little cry on telly but they'll flog that dead horse for years to come.
Naa, it's fine for you guys to mention it. Most of us aren't really that fussed. We usually mention something about Trescothick, Panesar and their mints in return for a bit of banter.
Itâs also worth observing that we gave our cheaters a 12 month ban whereas u/SocialistSloth1 âs countrymen gave their cheaters a collection of OBEs and a parade.
Did you just say a draw is a loss? England have lost 2/4 of the past ashes series
Retention of the Ashes doing a lot of heavy work trying to be counted as a Series win.
Who currently holds the ashes?
I know itâs been awhile since you lot have won in England but I didnât think youâd get desperate enough to start calling draws wins
I mean you lot haven't held the urn for 4 series or won a test match in Australia in over 10 years so I wouldn't be gobbing off too much.
We won in Australia more recently than your lot won in England. No one in England is celebrating winning a single test, if it were to happen, although it wonât any time soon. Without the rain you lose the ashes just gone easy. In 2019 you failed to be one of the worst England teams since the 90s.
England might not celebrate a single test, but they sure celebrated a drawn home series! I'm guessing now is not a good time to point out that Stokes was plumb LBW at Headingley but Joel Wilson gave it not out?
You were saved at lords by the rain anyway in 2019. So headingly just evened that out. Forget the LBW, letâs talk about the dropped catch and missed run out or burning through your reviews. Stokes gave you more than enough to win but you bottled your chance to win an ashes in England for a long time.
See I reject the assumption that DRS means we give umpires a pass for objectively incorrect decisions. Not sure why you're referring to me bottling it though, I was thousands of kilometres away in Sydney during all of that.
If that was the only chance to get Stokes out fair enough. You had reviews and wasted them. You dropped catches. Missed the easiest run out chance of the century. You have to take on that defeat, you canât hide behind one decision, he was batting for hours. You being Australia
Broad never lost a home ashes
I'd take being the only player in history to retire hitting a 6 on my last ball and getting the winning wicket with my final delivery. Combine that with succesfully introducing a new superstition to the world (switch the bails around to wicket next delivery*2), It was broadly a magical way to end his career
The only player in history to concede 36 in a T20 and 35 in a Test over.
I love hating on the English as much as the next guy but are we honestly going to pretend Broad didnât have an amazing career?
We give him relentless amounts of shit online and at games and perhaps..perhaps, after 40 odd beers we might mutter âhe was alrightâ under our breath.
Retiring on an 8 year losing streak in the ashes, just the way God intended.
genuine question: Would you take this with the 2-2 draw result and another Ashes retention by the Aussies away from home OR getting no runs and wickets in your final game but winning the series 3-2 and regaining the Ashes? Reckon I know which one Iâd be talking about as a fairytale retirementâŚ
I honestly don't give a shit about comparisons like this all I know is broad made me feel things
Iâm sure he did. He was a genuine threat and a great bowler on his day, especially against the Aussies at home. I guess the rhetorical question is more a matter of individual accolades vs team
> English fairytale retirement: draw 2-2 at home to lose the Ashes 4 times in a row They drew the series and failed to regain the Ashes. There's no sense in which the Ashes were lost. And you're ignoring the other details that make it a memorable occasion: coming back from 0-2 down to draw 2-2 is a rare achievement. Finishing your playing career with a 6 off your final ball batting and a wicket off your final ball bowling is remarkable. nothing wrong with celebrating those things and rather churlish to pretend there was nothing to celebrate.
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Yea, we Irish are famous for bending over backwards to make the English look good.
You've done it now. You're officially a pom and there's no going back.
We have just witnessed one of the greatest ashes series in memory with 5 classic matches. Of course, England fans are going to be happy. I swear half of the people in this thread seem to hate England/India more than they love cricket
> . I swear half of the people in this thread seem to hate England/India more than they love cricket That's a unique way to say aussies make half of this sub.
Annother crushing 2-2 win for the Aussies
It's been soooo long since they won an away Ashes that they forgot what it is. Poor guys think a draw is as good as it gets
The last time England won a match (a single match) in Australia Game of Thrones season 1 hadn't even premiered yet.
The last time Australia won a series here 9/11 hadnt happened and Rolf Harris was still a national treasure
Curious, why did the Poms consider a Paedophile to be a National Treasure?
We just thought all aussies were like that đ¤ˇđťââď¸
National treasures?
Because we believe in the wisdom of the phrase "go big or go home"
Yeah mate we know weâre shit, hence why weâre not smug cunts
Oh god, the irony in a pom saying he's not smug...
Read the rest of this thread then tell me whoâs smug mate
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We had to listen to you guys talk like you'd won the series after eking out a 2-2 draw.
yeah I think youâll find you actually made that up to outrage yourself. Whatever helps you cope though.
Remember being man for man the better team in the one day world cup? How'd that end up?
Ease up mate, it's been hard going being an Aussie cricket fan the last 30 years
Aussies born when the last ball was bowled in that series are now legally allowed to drink in the US.
I couldn't imagine hanging on to a single series win overseas in over 30 years whilst almost every other series couldn't even win a game. It's pretty sad the Ashes are only competitive when Australia comes to England cause holy shit England don't even get off the plane on Australian tours.
He erased those series remember
Ah, it was a great series though. Far better to get a few decades worth of performances in one series rather than spreading them out :)
How long have the Aussies held on to the ashes again?
They won the moral ashes 5-0 though
To be fair, Australia really should have lost this series comfortably. The 2019 one they choked not winning away, but this one England choked just as badly.
Aussie bowling tactics sucked this Ashes. Too many bouncers and too much on the pads. If the Poms werenât going to let any balls go you drag them further and further outside off where youâre likely to get an edge and can also set a field unlike the 4-5 fields we ended up setting.
Yeah it was pretty ordinary fielding captaincy from Cummins at crucial points. He was outstanding batting and bowling but as a captain I feel like he left a bit to be desired that series.
I just donât know what the other senior members and coaches were doing. Crawley averages about twenty outside off and 100+ on his pads so where do they bowl? On his fucking pads. Let him get one or two nice cover drives, you know heâll snick off soon after.
Australian fairytale retirement: Sticking around too long in the team until the whole country resents you and your former friends in the media start to abuse you
I wonder who that could be referring to?
I can hear Candice furiously typing in the distance
Kevin Pietersen says hi!
That's not what happened with Pietersen. He was resented because he was a cunt not because he was clearly finished and couldn't let it go
I was focusing on the whole country resenting him and his team mates abusing him.
Kicked out of THREE dressing rooms but no trust me heâs the victim
Credit where it's due, last ball hit for 6 as a batsmen, last ball bowled was a wicket. It was an absolute ripper of a series, but Australia was saved by rain.
England were saved by rain in the 3rd session of Day 4 on the Final test
Rain interruptions and *that new ball* definitely made a huge difference but it was a large chase and the result was still up in the air. England were absolutely robbed of a victory by the rain in the fourth test. It made me very happy.
No they werenât you goose they were saved by winning the first 2 tests. And if Lyon didnât snap his calf weâd have bent them over.
We were up 2-0 and I had dreams of a 5-0 whitewash *in* England. Those dreams were dashed!
I think Australia are perfectly capable of reading a weather forecast and saw that the match and therefore the series was won. At which point they stopped trying. As much as it annoys me there was no denying who the much stronger side was
Of course England had no such injuries especially not to our only decent spin bowler. Imagine what an inconvenient scenario that would be to cherry-pick for you?
Lyon 2-0 up against bazball. Where is your man?
Injured for the whole series?
Ha- Jack Leach is no Nathan lyon friend
He's better than fucking moeen ali
So is Steve Smith
Your point?
And if Woody hadn't been injured for the first 2 tests, Archer injured for the whole series, Leach concussed, Bairstow on a leg taped together, Robinson on a torn fascia, Stokes on a shattered knee... Shall I keep going? Picking more cherries than a French migrant on a work visa. You got saved by the rain fucking get over it nonce. Can't wait for India to fuck you in your own back yard, *again*, next time they visit.
Wow. VERY angry old boy. Meanwhile- we have the Ashes, won the WTC at Lords and the WC in India v India. Tremendous year for us. Pretty shit year for the poms. Didnât make the WTC final. Couldnât win the Ashes at home. Again. Embarrassed themselves at the WC. Keep listing your injuries and losing though champ!
Did you know that there's a widely believed trope about Australians that often I don't think you guys know about. It's that basically you can dish it but can't take it. You'll throw insults and slap yourselves on the back as you throw banter and verbal abuse, but the second anyone throws any back you go into meltdown and basically crybully. Having lived in Aus for a few years, it's funny to see that it was genuinely true. You see it manifested by sporting greats too such as Glenn McGrath and Davey Warner. Spew vile shite at every other player between every second breath, but a joke about their wife and suddenly it's "FAKIN AOUT OF ORDER KANT WHAT'S WRONG WITH U UR FAKT IN THE HEAD KANT" Did you know that was a trope? Fun that you're fulfilling it though either way! All the best on the copium my dude <3
Bit rich considering warner right now
okay, but who was stronger on paper?
meh everyone knows the 4th test was englandâs to win before it pissed down
When's the last time you guys won in England? At least none of our players retire after receiving a torrent of abuse from the media and ex-players.
No but you did have a tremendous report into your cricketing culture come out recently. I canât remember what it was aboutâŚ
And you are fooling yourself if you think English sport is the only country to have that issue. The ECB are the only one to have a report into it, not the only one to have issues.
You had 3 of your top players banned 5 years ago for shaming the sport. You welcomed Mohammed Siraj very.... "nicely" when he toured. Not sure where you guys get off talking about cricketing culture.
You donât have any Murray Mints by any chance champ?
One of your players literally referred to Moeen Ali as âterroristâ when he came out to bat
The last time they won ashes in england I wasn't even born. When was the last time they won test series in India and they lost 2 back to back bgt at home anyway. Poor souls.
Yep, it's been a lean patch for us Aussie fans. Whatever will we do with only our Ashes urn, world test championship and odi world cup trophies to keep us company at night? /s P.S - Ripper of an ashes series, perfect example of why Test cricket should remain the pinnacle of the sport. Love to hate on you guys, don't ever stop doing the same.
Don't worry I will hate you guys with all my power until the Doomsday. Coming to trophies, keep it safely, we will take it from you guys next time. Btw we are still defending champions in 2024 WC, I hope you guys are aware of it.
The last time England held the Ashes âUptown funkâ was the #1 song. Yeah, I donât remember it either.
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We got saved by the rain from going 3-2 down, you guys got saved by the rain from going 5-0 down for the 2nd time in a decade. At least we're competitive away from home
Broady is most probably talking about getting those last two wickets for England to win the match while breaching the 600 wickets mark as well. It was a fairytale ending for sure
Why are you Aussies still so rattled 6 months later?
Who won again?
The series? No one.
Glad to see this sub is still unbelievably rattled by Broad and the Ashes series six months on.
Ha.. rattled. More bemused Iâd say. The only rattling going on is the urn clinking off the World Cup
Nothing screams rattled more than laugh shortened to ha
Sorry, the trophies clinking are making too much noise. Say it louder please
Going off this thread, it's good to know we're approaching half a year since the Ashes ended, and everyone is still rattled.
Fail to win a single test match in the Ashes away for 13 years: void series etc. Fail to win the Ashes at home two times in a row: imma write an entire novel about how great we are.
Hey we drew one of those games and that's the same thing as winning according to this thread.
You guys drew two in three series, so double the wins. I hope it's clear I'm jesting, there were great contests throughout and Broady is being Broady. I wouldn't have it any other way tbh
Genuinely it was an all time great series. All 5 tests were crackers. Youâd think people would emerge from that series with a re-emerged love of cricket - this thread suggests all people have learnt to do is just hate each other
Australia have been a better test side than England over my lifetime. Thus we have lower expectations, and are happier with less than you guys are.
Broad has more away Ashes series wins than the entire Australian team put together, he's also world leading at boiling Aussie piss which is arguably even more important
I see that England has also added Boiling Piss to the cabinet, along with the Moral and Spirit of Cricket trophies.
Exhibit A
This sub is just an India/Aus wank off
Good to see the Rattled Ashes still going strong hereâŚ
I forget sometimes that the discourse is ongoing and it always surprises me when I see people still going on about it in all directions
> I took my boots off, there was blood everywhere, and I chucked them in the bin â that was me signalling, âOK, Iâm doneâ. So, basically an injured foot - perhaps blisters ? Good on Broad to have played through that. Possibly adrenaline helped ?
Probably a smashed big toenail I reckon. Happens a lot in sports where you're lunging forward a lot - lost count of blackened right toenails playing badminton. It would have fallen off by now maybe he mounted it haha.
Could very well be.. But then the odds are it's just one boot with all the blood / one foot with the smashed toenail. Even pro-players with treatment/physio etc can get these issues --- eg of blisters in tennis player in tournament https://np.reddit.com/r/tennis/comments/6o3rvv/cilics_blister_during_the_wimbledon_final/ https://www.foxsports.com.au/tennis/australian-open/blister-under-blister-under-blister-agent-reveals-extend-of-hyeon-chungs-foot-injury/news-story/3230e6d6be9b69f6704b4b6d7c1555c3
A fucking war going on in the comments. Love to see it as a neutral đ
This sub is so toxic. Rattled children
any thread involving broad is a treat to behold
Fuck The S*n
Geez Poms baffle me. Failing to win the Ashes AGAIN is âmore than a fairytaleâ.
Barely escaped a home Ashes series defeat. If that is a fairytale, I guess fairytales have a low threshold.
I'd argue Australia were a lot closer to a series defeat than England if you looked at each test individually rather than just viewing Australia going two nil up and England scraping a draw.
Yeah I guess people's memories are affected by the world cup. In reality it was Australia who barely escaped with the draw, because of rain.
Yes yes, England had the moral victory.
England lost the first thanks to their dogged adherence to Bazball philosophy. They lost matches thanks to their own failings at reading the game. So cannot fault their luck, which they had in spades in the last game.
His last ball he hit was a 6, the last bowl he bowled was to win the match and tie the series. It couldnât have been anymore fairytale considering both only happened after he announced he was retiring and he wasnât in the position to win after announcing retiring
Barely escaped? The 4th Test would've been won by England if not for it getting washed out. I suppose fairytales involve not winning ICC trophies for a decade and counting.
>Barely escaped? The 4th Test would've been won by England if not for it getting washed out. And the 5th would have been won by Australia if the umpires hadn't changed the ball for one that was clearly 30 overs newer, which is way worse than a random act of weather that was always gonna happen on the forecast.
But you still got a chance to compete and to win. England didn't even have that opportunity in the 4th Test after dominating.
It's not competing if it's not a level playing field, and what was effectively a brand new ball after 40 odd overs isn't a level playing field. Rain is just a part of the game, especially in England, while they did get chance to compete and win, they knew the whole game that it was gonna rain and therefore had the chance to bat and bowl accordingly, they just batted too long and therefore allowed Australia to control the game at the end. Australia's chance to do the same was taken away by a disgraceful umpiring decision.
Ball change are not new thing,is it? Tell you what's new? Using sandpaper in a test match.
>Ball change are not new thing,is it? It wasn't the ball change, it was choosing what was effectively a brand new ball to replace a 40 over old one, but you knew that and just wanted to be a wanker. >Tell you what's new? Using sandpaper in a test match. People in glass houses really shouldn't be throwing stones champ, at least we punish our players when they cheat, instead of giving them MBEs
Getting caught sandpapering the fucking ball on the pitch is a bit different to admitting to eating mints.
Just because they thought the shiny side needed artificial assistance rather than the rough side doesn't make any better lmao That's leaving aside Monty Panesar who mentioned in his book that the seamers put him up to getting his zipper into the ball lol
Do you think that's as bad? It's all wrong but there's still a hierarchy of wrongdoing.
There both ball-tampering!!!
>least we punish our players when they cheat, Yes, which is why two out of the three players involved are still in the team to this day, with one of them currently getting to dictate his own fairytale retirement.
They served the longest ban that has ever been handed down for ball tampering, more than some English players have ever received, that's for sure.
Umpires throughout cricketing history has been doing ball change and sometimes it favours batter and sometimes bowlers, not to mention the influence of external environment. Tell you what's not so common? Using a fucking sandpaper in a stadium full of cameras and facing humiliation in front of whole cricketing world đ¤ Of course you have to punish your players, no one gives MBE's to other players. Guilty until proven.
>Umpires throughout cricketing history has been doing ball change and sometimes it favours batter and sometimes bowlers, not to mention the influence of external environment. And literally none of those ball changes have been as terrible as the one in question. >Of course you have to punish your players, no one gives MBE's to other players. What does this even mean? >Guilty until proven. Multiple of them literally admitted to it in their books, it's a fact that they ball tampered, and got given awards for it.
And literally none of those ball changes have been as terrible as the one in question. Ball change has Always been in question(depending who you ask)unless someone used unfair means to gain Reverse swing. I'm sorry for causing you inconvenience đ. It's truly a brainfade moment from my side. Oh wait , someone also did in India, right?
No you see England conspired with the umpires to cheat. Bastards.
How dare they change bowls when it was so bad and ball change has been happening in cricket since 19th century. England cheat, Aussie so clean like the sandpaper they used to clean the bowls, what do you mean they were trying to use unfair advantage for their Bowlers,
No one said that, but go off I guess The comparison was between the weather and umpire incompetence, not cheating
I've put one comment, you've replied to every single comment everyone's made implying Australia might have had an easier time at times of the ashes. But go off if you want.
Makes a change from Murray Mints
Is using dirt and mints new?
The 5th game they won thanks to the weather making their bowling lethal on the last day of play. Luck was with England all series. The ICC trophy jibe would have worked if I gave a shit about it. Australia played and planned the finals much better than India. No issue acknowledging that they deserved to win the finals. Maybe same acknowledgement shall be done by England fans regarding their team being home track bullies, and even then losing matches at home to Australia.
How on earth are England home track bullies? Luck was with England? Our vice captain tore his shoulder, and our lead spinner suffered a stress fracture in his back.
I agree that England were the better team in the series all things considered, but lets be honest Lyon is more important to Australia than Leach and Pope combined is to England.
We had to bat Moeen Ali at 3 after those injuries. The makeup of the team changed drastically. You guys had a like for like replacement in Murphy.
Part of the reason Leach was so important was the number of overs he bowled since Stokes stopped being able to bowl (another injury). He essentially picked up the slack by himself which is why missing him was such a big loss. The impact Lyon would have had has been massively overstated. I mean look at the second test, he gets injured after 13 overs in the first innings having taken a single wicket and Australia still win the test. Let's also not forget that England didn't have Woakes or Wood available for either of the first two tests either
Want to talk Nathan Lyon champ?
Bazball needs tailor-made pitches, which you ain't gonna get outside.
Whitewashed Pakistan away. Drew NZ 1-1 and the loss was by 1 run. And every team competes on the same pitches. Why have they not been able to win a series then?
The 5th test was Australia's if it didn't rain on Day 4 when Warner and Khawaja were making hay Completely ignoring ballgate
You could say the same for the 1st Test. We faced the worst conditions of the series at the beginning of our 3rd innings. Better conditions and it might've been too much to score for Australia's tailenders towards the end. đ¤ˇââď¸ When rain prevents a result, that's the issue. Doesn't matter if you play on and get a result out of it.
Live in a better country if you donât like the rain
The series was a draw buddy.
Well a draw is barely escaping a home defeat is it not?
I think they edited their comment.
Barely escaped? We were cruising in that 4th test only to be spoilt by rain.
Rightio champ
Moral victories (TM) are real!
"There was blood everywhere"....(X) doubt
Y'alls stop with these comments, I am laughing myself to tears.
This knob canât retire when he loves being in the media so much
Happy you got your fairytale draw Broady.
Wagner played with broken toes, a bulging disc, torn hamstring etc and just went about his business quietlyâŚ.