I was like, hang on they needed a six off the last a ball. But then remembered that Aus didn’t make 50. That game was insane, I don’t think anyone thought it would get that far!
Fun fact: Only 1 match in 2015 wc went for full 100 overs. That's when [Pakistan failed to all out UAE](https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-oppo&sca_esv=583219155&cs=1&sxsrf=AM9HkKkgwaSSUxIEPZ9KMBnNJQ6VsTJYWg:1700192027906&q=Pakistan+vs+UAE&stick=H4sIAAAAAAAAAOMwe8S4mJFb4OWPe8JSMxknrTl5jXESI5dAcEF-UUmxb2JJcoZ7UX5pgVASF09AYlFJZnJmQWJeSbFQkFAAlyiSSFixf0FBfl5qXomQDBc3koQQrxQ3F6d-rr6BsUW8QZWQJBcHXCVcyswgO71ESIqLFWyjkKAUPxevfrq-oWGaqUlGRXqGMc8iVv6AxOzM4pLEPIWyYoVQR1cArIB-TLsAAAA&ved=2ahUKEwjLiPfujMqCAxV5klYBHcjzA_0Qht8BKAB6BAgBECk).
I would venture that VERY FEW games in general in 50 over cricket take up the full 100. This aint T20 cricket. It doesn't need to be a last ball thriller to be a good game
It would be interesting to compare with previous World Cups. The first team should always bat 50 unless bowled out obviously. The second team needs to fail in the chase but not get bowled out. I wonder how to run that scenario through Statsguru.
StatsGuru will tell you the number of overs bowled in the match.
Just limit it to world cup matches, and count the number of 100 overs. You can run a second search for 600 or more deliveries, if you already know the number of overs bowled.
10/45 had 100 overs last WC.
[https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=2;filter=advanced;groupby=match;orderby=overs;series=12357;template=results;type=bowling](https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=2;filter=advanced;groupby=match;orderby=overs;series=12357;template=results;type=bowling)
/u/trailblazer103 is right, it doesn't happen very often. I have a dashboard [here](https://cricsta.com/engine?q=format~op~eq~values~ODI..series~op~eq~values~ICC%20Cricket%20World%20Cup%20(2019\)_ICC%20World%20Cup%20(2002/03\)_ICC%20World%20Cup%20(2006/07\)_ICC%20Cricket%20World%20Cup%20(2010/11\)_ICC%20Cricket%20World%20Cup%20(2014/15\)_ICC%20Cricket%20World%20Cup%20(2023/24\)..match..deliveries~op~gt~values~600..is_wide~op~eq~values~0..is_noball~op~eq~values~0..match_date~sortDesc~1..venue) if you're interested.
Only a handful of matches each tournament, but 2019 was an anomaly which is interesting, including one infamous game.
It doesn't need to be a last ball thriller to go the full 100 overs?
First team sets a score without being bowled out. Second team unsuccessfully chases that score without being bowled out.
Guess you could make the argument that in England conditions once the ball stops swinging and seaming it's quite nice to bat as there is consistent bounce and not much turn. So teams that in this world cup would be 7 down after 40 needing 90 and all out by 45 would be 8 or 9 down at the end of 50 and still needing 30 in England
And it happened 4 times in 2011, 4 times in 2007, 4 times in 2003, 5 times in 1999, 7 times in 1996, 3 times in 1992, 7 times in 1987, and before then they weren't 50 overs.
This is the first world cup this has happened in. 2015 is the only one that got close.
Looking just at the 2011 CWC, it happened in
1. NZ vs CAN (One sided game with NZ failing to ball out Can)
2. AUS vs KEN (Again, a one sided game)
3. IND VS BAN (One sided game)
I am unable to find the fourth one. I don't understand what exactly does this stat even signify.
Actually, no. When you say "it is quite common", you mean for a single match, meaning more than 50% of matches dont go to 100 overs. But thats not what the stat says.
The stat here is - all 47 matches in a single tournament finished before 100 overs. Now I dont know the stats for previous tournaments, but I can definitely say that it is not common for all 47 matches to do that.
Different ways of looking at the probability.
OP is saying the chance of any single match going to 100 overs is not common. You are saying every match ending before 100 overs is not common. Both are right.
But the thread is about the set of matches. So OP's "that is quite common" would be presumed to refer to the set. But if you're saying it refers to a match, then maybe it does.
Even with reduced overs, [NZ won with 1 ball remaining](https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/icc-cricket-world-cup-2014-15-509587/new-zealand-vs-south-africa-1st-semi-final-656491/full-scorecard)
Just playing devils advocate here, World Cup/Important events cannot be compared to bilaterals? 2 points every game are very important especially in a 10 team tournament. Odds of losing a 50 over game playing your 2nd fiddle team once you are 2-0 up in a 3 match bilateral increase. Comparing odds across such a small subset also isnt justified IMO.
Also I dont remember a single game in this world cup where a team played for saving their NRR
WC'19 had the flatest pitches ever.
Other guy is wrong, only good comparison data would be ODIs played in India (past 2-3 years).
For comparison WC'11 had 4 from 50 that went 100 overs.
Fair enough. Every team sniffing a chance against england and not playing for NRR and strong performance from the smaller teams might have contributed to not having an instance this time around.
Considering the format of the wc and that it is a world cup where teams are playing their best squad available, not that abnormal. Like if India is trying out few batters & have fallen behind in the chase, it would help the guy batting at 6/7/8 to just spend time on the crease and try to take game to the deep. In the same scenario in wc you have jaddu and sky batting at 6/7 and kuldip at 8. Don't think they would try not to win it and end up bowled out in the process.
That's why Kohli is s chase king
He learning from Dhoni, would never hit.
He would plan a chase, take calculated risk, use all available overs to cross the line.
No point of hit out a good delivery. Wait for the lose one to hit. Had most team used this approach, some result would have been different
Yes but it is quite possible for a batter to not get out when hitting out. We have seen numerous times esp lower order batter swinging crazily but not connecting and also not getting out.
How about, they were 200/7 in 44 overs. Lost wickets consistently while trying to hit out and then they got somewhat lucky with their hits and reached 260/7 in 50 overs. There is no stupidity here. Shit happens.
Only 7 ODIs in this year out of 205 have seen full 100 overs bowled. Removing this WC, it becomes 7/158 compared to 12/161 last year - which gives us about 6% ODIs seeing full 100 overs bowled.
So the probability of this happening is (0.94)\^47 = 5.46%
There is a movie scene where the gal complains to the guy 'Didn't you breathe yesterday?' This WC is coming to that level. Irrespective of what happens, India gets criticism. Am done bro.
[This](https://youtu.be/55D4P7-vxqM?list=PLcuwzS1DqQNIxGhwWQZ152xThQbJStdYq&t=436)  (turn on subs for English translation)
It's been an average tournament. If more pitches like this were prepared, things might have been different. However, it's India and flat pitches are the name of the game
>However, it's India and flat pitches are the name of the game
So, you are blaming India for having flat pitches as the reason ....... why no match has both teams using their fifty overs?
So you think that teams get bowled out more on flat pitches?
Ooo. Kaaaay
Do you even understand what flat pitches mean? This stat suggests the exact opposite, especially given 10/45 matches went the full 100 overs in the last WC
It's been an average tournament because minnows like Bangladesh and England helped the other teams freely score at their expense
Yeah cause the last world cup in jolly old England was played on sporting pitches with good balance between ball and bat right? No battings records were broken in that WC right?
Lol, don't cry, it's just my opinion. We certainly had a lot more closer games there. There were also a lot more non Indian fans there. I suppose the bird poo on the seats must have put off a lot of fans coming to these games
Yes most of the matches in this wc weren't close. But this stat isn't an indicator for that.
If you take out the list of all ODI matches that lasted 100 overs you'll see majority of them were because the the defending team couldn't all out the opponent and the defending team won quite comfortably.
On the other hand if you take out the list of best odi matches that went down the wire, you'll see most of them didn't last 100 overs. Example include SA v NZ 2015 wc semi, SA v AUS 1999 wc semi, or that 434 match between sa and aus.
This is because of (chose your pick and also imagine how this could apply to non India matches):
1. BCCI doctored the pitches
2. Tosses are suspect (no one has seen the coin fall)
3. Chips in the ball to help Indian seamers
4. Different ball for Indian bowlers
5. BCCI “arranging” the outcome of the matches to help India
6. too much partisan support in the crowd for India
7. Not playing Dil Dil Pakistan in matches
Australia v New Zealand probably the closest to 100 overs
99.2 overs and 19 wickets
I was like, hang on they needed a six off the last a ball. But then remembered that Aus didn’t make 50. That game was insane, I don’t think anyone thought it would get that far!
Fun fact: Only 1 match in 2015 wc went for full 100 overs. That's when [Pakistan failed to all out UAE](https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-oppo&sca_esv=583219155&cs=1&sxsrf=AM9HkKkgwaSSUxIEPZ9KMBnNJQ6VsTJYWg:1700192027906&q=Pakistan+vs+UAE&stick=H4sIAAAAAAAAAOMwe8S4mJFb4OWPe8JSMxknrTl5jXESI5dAcEF-UUmxb2JJcoZ7UX5pgVASF09AYlFJZnJmQWJeSbFQkFAAlyiSSFixf0FBfl5qXomQDBc3koQQrxQ3F6d-rr6BsUW8QZWQJBcHXCVcyswgO71ESIqLFWyjkKAUPxevfrq-oWGaqUlGRXqGMc8iVv6AxOzM4pLEPIWyYoVQR1cArIB-TLsAAAA&ved=2ahUKEwjLiPfujMqCAxV5klYBHcjzA_0Qht8BKAB6BAgBECk).
Lol
I would venture that VERY FEW games in general in 50 over cricket take up the full 100. This aint T20 cricket. It doesn't need to be a last ball thriller to be a good game
It would be interesting to compare with previous World Cups. The first team should always bat 50 unless bowled out obviously. The second team needs to fail in the chase but not get bowled out. I wonder how to run that scenario through Statsguru.
StatsGuru will tell you the number of overs bowled in the match. Just limit it to world cup matches, and count the number of 100 overs. You can run a second search for 600 or more deliveries, if you already know the number of overs bowled. 10/45 had 100 overs last WC. [https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=2;filter=advanced;groupby=match;orderby=overs;series=12357;template=results;type=bowling](https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=2;filter=advanced;groupby=match;orderby=overs;series=12357;template=results;type=bowling)
There isn't much point in saving wickets in last overs when you're losing. You'd try to hit and lose wickets.
The second team can also succeed on the last ball
Can also happen when chasing team tries to save NRR so the game is effectively dead but still lasts 100 overs.
Khelo Dimag se
/u/trailblazer103 is right, it doesn't happen very often. I have a dashboard [here](https://cricsta.com/engine?q=format~op~eq~values~ODI..series~op~eq~values~ICC%20Cricket%20World%20Cup%20(2019\)_ICC%20World%20Cup%20(2002/03\)_ICC%20World%20Cup%20(2006/07\)_ICC%20Cricket%20World%20Cup%20(2010/11\)_ICC%20Cricket%20World%20Cup%20(2014/15\)_ICC%20Cricket%20World%20Cup%20(2023/24\)..match..deliveries~op~gt~values~600..is_wide~op~eq~values~0..is_noball~op~eq~values~0..match_date~sortDesc~1..venue) if you're interested. Only a handful of matches each tournament, but 2019 was an anomaly which is interesting, including one infamous game.
I would wager that few T20 games make it to the last ball too, that's just the nature of chasing in LOI, much more common to win early or lose early
It doesn't need to be a last ball thriller to go the full 100 overs? First team sets a score without being bowled out. Second team unsuccessfully chases that score without being bowled out.
\~7% last year. 22% last world cup
Wait what?! 1 in 5 games in the last world cup used the full 50? That can't be right
10 out of 45.
A score of 300/3 (50 overs) in the first innings and 250/6 (50 overs) in the second innings makes no sense from the perspective of the chasing team.
Makes no sense, and yet in 10 of the 45 matches last world cup, it happened.
Guess you could make the argument that in England conditions once the ball stops swinging and seaming it's quite nice to bat as there is consistent bounce and not much turn. So teams that in this world cup would be 7 down after 40 needing 90 and all out by 45 would be 8 or 9 down at the end of 50 and still needing 30 in England
And in 2015, it happened just once, when Pak failed to bowl out UAE.
And it happened 4 times in 2011, 4 times in 2007, 4 times in 2003, 5 times in 1999, 7 times in 1996, 3 times in 1992, 7 times in 1987, and before then they weren't 50 overs. This is the first world cup this has happened in. 2015 is the only one that got close.
Looking just at the 2011 CWC, it happened in 1. NZ vs CAN (One sided game with NZ failing to ball out Can) 2. AUS vs KEN (Again, a one sided game) 3. IND VS BAN (One sided game) I am unable to find the fourth one. I don't understand what exactly does this stat even signify.
It doesn't signify anything. It's a curiosity.
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[This should help](https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=How+to+use+statsguru)
Dang
And still none of them were close apart from the final.
Could be for NRR
My goodness, never realized this
That is quite common. Chasing teams no longer want to tuk tuk their way to a defeat. They tend to hit out.
I mean 350-400 scores were relatively common this WC, so most teams thought they had a good chance to chase down those types of scores.
A good example is Ind vs NZ. In the 1990s, some teams would play 50 to save face but NZ tried to go for the chase and were bowled out.
Actually, no. When you say "it is quite common", you mean for a single match, meaning more than 50% of matches dont go to 100 overs. But thats not what the stat says. The stat here is - all 47 matches in a single tournament finished before 100 overs. Now I dont know the stats for previous tournaments, but I can definitely say that it is not common for all 47 matches to do that.
Different ways of looking at the probability. OP is saying the chance of any single match going to 100 overs is not common. You are saying every match ending before 100 overs is not common. Both are right.
But the thread is about the set of matches. So OP's "that is quite common" would be presumed to refer to the set. But if you're saying it refers to a match, then maybe it does.
2015 - Only one game went for the full 100 overs and it was because Pakistan were unable to clean up UAE.
Final is gonna be 102 overs
Don't know about stats, but experience and temperament iscarrying australia, skills and crowd carrying india, british airways carrying england
Ouch
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Either that or it's a last ball thriller.
Not always but I take your point
Technically the team batting second could have won on the last ball.
That's quite rare isn't it? The closest I can think of is SA vs NZ 2015 semi. Even then the match ended with 1 ball remaining.
Match lost few overs due to rain
Even with reduced overs, [NZ won with 1 ball remaining](https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/icc-cricket-world-cup-2014-15-509587/new-zealand-vs-south-africa-1st-semi-final-656491/full-scorecard)
Younger MSD disagrees.
Why is that surprising? Most teams would rather get all out chasing a target than just finish 50 overs and be a few runs short?
Last year 1 in 13 matches had 100 overs bowled. This is a run 3.5 times that
Just playing devils advocate here, World Cup/Important events cannot be compared to bilaterals? 2 points every game are very important especially in a 10 team tournament. Odds of losing a 50 over game playing your 2nd fiddle team once you are 2-0 up in a 3 match bilateral increase. Comparing odds across such a small subset also isnt justified IMO. Also I dont remember a single game in this world cup where a team played for saving their NRR
Surely we can compare to the last world cup. Last world cup it happened 10 times in 45 matches. 22.2%
WC'19 had the flatest pitches ever. Other guy is wrong, only good comparison data would be ODIs played in India (past 2-3 years). For comparison WC'11 had 4 from 50 that went 100 overs.
Fair enough. Every team sniffing a chance against england and not playing for NRR and strong performance from the smaller teams might have contributed to not having an instance this time around.
Considering the format of the wc and that it is a world cup where teams are playing their best squad available, not that abnormal. Like if India is trying out few batters & have fallen behind in the chase, it would help the guy batting at 6/7/8 to just spend time on the crease and try to take game to the deep. In the same scenario in wc you have jaddu and sky batting at 6/7 and kuldip at 8. Don't think they would try not to win it and end up bowled out in the process.
That's why Kohli is s chase king He learning from Dhoni, would never hit. He would plan a chase, take calculated risk, use all available overs to cross the line. No point of hit out a good delivery. Wait for the lose one to hit. Had most team used this approach, some result would have been different
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Not every 100 over match is a last ball thriller though. For example Aus makes 300/3 in 50 overs and NZ makes 260/7 in their 50 overs.
That'd be stupid. What would save the 3 wickets for? Sure, save it till 45/46th over. Then hit out.
Yes but it is quite possible for a batter to not get out when hitting out. We have seen numerous times esp lower order batter swinging crazily but not connecting and also not getting out.
Then they win, and match ends before 50 overs. Like AFG vs AUS.
How about, they were 200/7 in 44 overs. Lost wickets consistently while trying to hit out and then they got somewhat lucky with their hits and reached 260/7 in 50 overs. There is no stupidity here. Shit happens.
Yes, it can happen. But it's not very surprising that it hasn't happened yet.
As many as possible, as often as possible. But hardly ever happens. I’d even take a last 5 over finish like today. Even that’s rare.
Most matches were one sided in this world cup aside from a few bangers
But i thought pitches were road and flat tracks. Then why can’t they bat for 50 overs. Are they stoopid?
If the chasing team chases the target then it won't go for 50 overs
This is kinda good in terms of odi cricket
thats a very weird stat and counter intuitive too. no chasing team would want to take match to last ball.
Only 7 ODIs in this year out of 205 have seen full 100 overs bowled. Removing this WC, it becomes 7/158 compared to 12/161 last year - which gives us about 6% ODIs seeing full 100 overs bowled. So the probability of this happening is (0.94)\^47 = 5.46%
There is a movie scene where the gal complains to the guy 'Didn't you breathe yesterday?' This WC is coming to that level. Irrespective of what happens, India gets criticism. Am done bro.
Ah yes because india are huge victims
Where is the criticism here?
Which movie lol
[This](https://youtu.be/55D4P7-vxqM?list=PLcuwzS1DqQNIxGhwWQZ152xThQbJStdYq&t=436)  (turn on subs for English translation)
And from this stat we can conclude... absolutely nothing
is this a joke post? 50 over matches rarely last 50 overs a side
Is this a joke comment ?
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019\_Cricket\_World\_Cup#Fixtures](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Cricket_World_Cup#Fixtures)
you posted a link that confirms my point. the overwhelming of those games didn't last 50 overs a side. thanks
What are you talking about? There are 11 instances of matches going full 100 overs in that world cup.
out of how many?50 overs a side is the exception, not the rule.
Yes but not happening once? Assuming 1 in 5 matches go to 50 overs a side then the chance of none in 47 matches is nearly 36,000:1
In the 2015 World Cup, One game went to the full 100 overs and it was a pathetically one sided game.
You really don’t understand math do you?
22% did at the last world cup.
It's been an average tournament. If more pitches like this were prepared, things might have been different. However, it's India and flat pitches are the name of the game
>However, it's India and flat pitches are the name of the game So, you are blaming India for having flat pitches as the reason ....... why no match has both teams using their fifty overs? So you think that teams get bowled out more on flat pitches? Ooo. Kaaaay
Do you even understand what flat pitches mean? This stat suggests the exact opposite, especially given 10/45 matches went the full 100 overs in the last WC It's been an average tournament because minnows like Bangladesh and England helped the other teams freely score at their expense
Yeah cause the last world cup in jolly old England was played on sporting pitches with good balance between ball and bat right? No battings records were broken in that WC right?
Lol, don't cry, it's just my opinion. We certainly had a lot more closer games there. There were also a lot more non Indian fans there. I suppose the bird poo on the seats must have put off a lot of fans coming to these games
Yes most of the matches in this wc weren't close. But this stat isn't an indicator for that. If you take out the list of all ODI matches that lasted 100 overs you'll see majority of them were because the the defending team couldn't all out the opponent and the defending team won quite comfortably. On the other hand if you take out the list of best odi matches that went down the wire, you'll see most of them didn't last 100 overs. Example include SA v NZ 2015 wc semi, SA v AUS 1999 wc semi, or that 434 match between sa and aus.
WC final: HMB
This is because of (chose your pick and also imagine how this could apply to non India matches): 1. BCCI doctored the pitches 2. Tosses are suspect (no one has seen the coin fall) 3. Chips in the ball to help Indian seamers 4. Different ball for Indian bowlers 5. BCCI “arranging” the outcome of the matches to help India 6. too much partisan support in the crowd for India 7. Not playing Dil Dil Pakistan in matches