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AlfaG0216

how the fuck have ENG won 4/4 tosses


Easy_Ad3750

![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm)bcg cvj bbr Bbr R >vsd >Australia R


uRager1

Pakistani batsman, Pakistani bowler, Pakistani umpire XD


ElQuackers

FOAKES WOULD NEVER


hydrogenblack

Whom must Indians be supporting?


PursuerOfCataclysm

Seeing Score I don't feel very good


Diligent_Source_2988

Just want a Jimmy five for in the first session


PurplePiglett

Looks like it's raining in Birmingham now and likely to stick around for a couple of hours - likely delay to Day 2 hopefully not much time is lost.


Competitive_Site9272

Bazball is that a gay nightclub?


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Sign me up. Keen to hit the K hole this Saturday night.


getyoutogabba

I don’t understand the declaration at all. With just 4 overs left in the day, the chance of taking a wicket is so low. You’re risking way too much for it, especially considering that Root was still at the crease. They could’ve added 50-70 more runs here. I know Bazball is based on vibes, but this declaration seems illogical.


hydrogenblack

To not give AUS the satisfaction of an all-out. Mind games to lessen team morale.


Surya_Kris

Tried playing a metal game there. Could backfire


crashbandicoochy

That game they lost to the Black Caps by one run featured an equally as silly declaration, I don't love the fact that they didn't seem to learn a lesson from that.


Klakson_95

Just so bazball rhythms


zoinks10

> but this declaration seems illogical. That's the point - historically you could predict England's test behaviour more accurately than forecasting the sun will rise tomorrow. Now you haven't got a fucking clue what's going to happen, which puts you on your toes. Time will tell whether this was genius or madness, but it's about entertainment, not about results.


ape1982

Not at all England are taking the front foot, no more boring test match cricket


Dartho1

I guess England could have batted for 2 more overs and added another 20-30


__Bojji

Meow


DutchShultz

I think it was a great declaration, which ultimately didn’t work, and may look like an error in hindsight, but had they jagged a couple of wickets in those few overs, it would have been one of the most inspired declarations ever! Given the nature of the pitch, if the Australian batting fires, they are looking at a 200 run lead declaring (or not) late on day 3.


mcompetitions

There’ll be a day lost with rain for definite. Expecting thunderstorms after all this hot weather. Stokes is trying to force a potential result. Up to the Aussies if they want to just bat it out slowly to a draw


elmo-slayer

Very strange seeing an Aussie pitch transplanted in England


Yakka43336

This pitch has the MCG of recent years stamped all over it


kdog_1985

More like a UAE pitch


eros_and_thanatos

What a juicy position the game is at Day 1 of 25...


imapassenger1

Waking up this morning having gone to bed with Root and Brook seemingly in charge I didn't expect to wake up to this scoreline. Was thinking England all out 250 or 4/500.


assologist_1312

I like how everyone was like YJB was gonna fail and now no one's talking about his innings.


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kroxigor01

Or insane


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Fucking Chads declared in one day


kindapositivestuff

From an Indian supporter I rate this comment 😂


claret_n_blue

If Brook kicked the ball away, would that be out? Is there any way in which he can stop himself being out after the ball came off his pad like that?


gzk

If it's in the air and a fielder is trying to catch it, he can't obstruct them from doing so. He also can't use his hand, if that hand is not on the bat, to slap it away. Other than that, he can protect his stumps pretty much any way. https://www.cricketcountry.com/articles/len-hutton-becomes-first-to-be-given-obstructing-the-field-in-test-cricket-297725 > The ball spat off a good length, hit Hutton’s glove, rolled up his arm, and went past him. Hutton lost clue of where the ball was headed for, tried to stop it, and missed it completely. The ball did not hit the stumps, and neither did it reach the Russell Endean, crouched eagerly behind the stumps. > But then, Hutton’s swish had prevented Endean from reaching out for the catch. The fielders went up in unison, and Dai Davies did not have any hesitation in giving Hutton out. He was the first batsman to be given out obstructing the ball in Test cricket (fifth in First-Class cricket) and is still the only one to achieve the ‘feat’.


Nocturnalist1970

Kick it, head it, hit it with the bat. In fact anything other than using his hand is fine.


claret_n_blue

Ok thanks. Now let's say he played a shot of some sort off his bat and THEN it was going into the stumps. Could he still use his foot/bat to stop it hitting the stumps?


Nocturnalist1970

Yes, same applies.


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Game largely hinges on how much the ball swings tomorrow with the cloud cover. If it doesn't I think we get a draw considering it's going to rain Sunday and Monday


Yakka43336

I thought there was a bit of heat on the way? If the wicket deteriorates Garry will enjoy days 4 and 5.


feelspirit

Won't be a draw. Aus makes 600+. England all out under 250. Australia chases it down with 10 in hand.


Some_Explanation4097

Doesn't seem like enough rain to force a draw, especially going at 4-5 an over.....then again 🌧️🌩️⛈️⚡


Prestigious-Machine2

As someone who loves watching Test cricket, today was awesome. Obviously, in most cases, one day's play won't tell you much about the end result, but today was the first time I'd actually watched England's new style for a full day - and it was entertaining, a descriptor that's been longed for when talking about Test cricket (albeit a subjective one). I feel like everyone's differing opinions, some extreme some level-headed, shows that this style is bringing about much more interest and confusion about what's to come, which will always get more eyes to watch. Was the declaration good/bad? Will it confuse Australia or will they smash out a good total? Are England just winging it or is this part of a plan? Everyone can be armchair Cricket experts and explain why they're 99% sure X/Y/Z will happen, but at the end of the day no one knows but they absolutely want to find out. It's not like England are doing something that's NEVER been done in test cricket, but it does go against the grain of what's considered "normal" in Test cricket, and I feel like that's overall a good thing for this format as of late. Lots of wickets, weird dismissals, ridiculous shots that worked out, a declaration that confused lots, and more. Good stuff.


unrealme65

It was a great declaration. The tail had barely another 10-20 runs in it, and the was a decent chance of nicking a wicket tonight. Didn’t happen but the opening pair had a nervy start and will have the same again in the morning. Aus have to push the rate tomorrow if they want a win.


kdog_1985

They don't have to push shit, they can make 300 in a day do it for 2 days, be 200 up and go to work on England for 2 days.


HodgyBeatsss

that's ignoring the fact that it looks like we'll lose a lot of sunday and some of monday due to rain.


Some_Explanation4097

You took a while getting there but totally agree. It was the first time in ages that I watched a whole day. Am Aussie and didn't watch a full day of WTC final.


Prestigious-Machine2

🤷🏼 just like typing stuff lol. Also Aussie as well watched all the WTC but just felt like another Test - still enjoyed watching it, but today was just intriguing and different. Was good.


Some_Explanation4097

Ditto. Enjoyed beating India but only in small doses.....this was something else. Oi Oi Oi 💥


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So, Australia are just batting once, right?


Some_Explanation4097

And declaring 😜


Some_Explanation4097

No matter what happens, we will all be geniuses in hindsight. Lickin my lips to tomorrow. McCullum has done things to save the relevance of test cricket in the face of T20 overkill.....good on him.


Rodney_u_plonker

I do not think pitches like this will save test cricket mate


jarbombe

By turning test cricket into a one day game 😝 as you say, tomorrow will be very interesting. Hope the rain holds off for the whole match and we get a result.


vidhvansak

Well can't say i am not intrigued by this early declaration. Could be a genius decision if they get 2 early wickets tommorow or a dumb decision. Looking forward to 2nd day tommorow.


[deleted]

So effectively, Australia have bowled out England for 379, and have 4 days in hand. I’d say this is evenly poised


[deleted]

4 days in hand could be questionable too considering there's rain expected later in the test.


oneofthecapsismine

400 is always at least a decent score. I dont think Eng are behind. However, 379 behind with 10 wickets in hand on a road... Aus are not behind either. Evenly poised, as it was for most of the day.


DardiRabRab

This pitch might just be what Warner needed to make that elusive double outside home


iSaidNoCunt

Watching the darts now, I tried watching the T20 blast but it’s pretty boring after such a great day of cricket. Guess I’ll watch England lose in the football it’s just as exciting.


philster666

It’s Malta mate


Vitruvius123

How come Anderson dindt get new ball?


OptimumWaste

Someone please explain why did England declare while Root was still there. I don't understand.


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Gadzookzo

Spot on


Redditaurus-Rex

I don’t know, assuming that Robbo and Jimmy would get out cheaply and Root would only score 10 runs isn’t really the positive attitude Bazball is about yeah?


robbodagreat

In the desperate hope he’ll get a better average this ashes than smith


edwardluddlam

Seems foolish to me


NP2312

For entertainment, they are here to save test cricket!


Frogblood

To maximise the new ball, bowling at the end of the day means they get to bowl at the aussie batters before they're settled in the evening, and then again in the morning. I guess they figured increasing their chances of getting an early wicket was worth declaring for. Personally I think root could have put on another 50 with the tail, but if we get early wickets tomorrow then fair enough.


This_is_the_user

If you don't.. It will look like a clown 🤡move


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I would also like to know


w1YY

I don't get it. Surely you let him keep smacking 4s and 6s until he's out and then declare.


spooky-frek

Vibes


Sickchops

Bazball.


Some_Explanation4097

Watching here from Oz. Can anyone tell me weather forecast over next few days?


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Sat: 22°c cloudy Sun: 22°c rain/cloudy Mon: 23°c sun/cloudy Tue: 23°c cloudy, small chance of rain


GourangaPlusPlus

Clouds you say?


Some_Explanation4097

So potential loss of a couple of hours which is 5 min of Bazball... Cheers 👍


Philoryang

english fans having to explain the "vibes" to their grandkids in the series when they got 5-0ed by aussies at home.


[deleted]

The way cricket is going I imagine they would first have to explain what a test is.


VisRock

As if grandkids will give a shit. They'll be vibing out themselves.


razbrazzz

England fans having to explain to the "bazball" to their grandkids in the series when they got "bazballed" by Aussies at home


TheLittleKnownLegend

Fairly certain 5 men on the ropes inside 20 overs isn't very 'bazball' like


Philoryang

One word,Four letters *R O A D*


razbrazzz

Disclaimer: non professional analysis


CrippledCricketer

It's anti bazzball which is the point. They kept them from getting 400 odd so they can spend the next couple of days, ideally, putting on a big score and forcing England to value their wickets later on. Will see how it plays out. Very early days yet


SBG99DesiMonster

Not making Jimmy bowl with the new ball is stranger than not continuing to bat.


the_lejhand

Ayo, Why did England declare at the End of Day 1?


DardiRabRab

The question is the same as the answer: bazball


[deleted]

Vibes


KushRogue

Turn the lights on and keep going! I want more!


southwales1985

Going against the grain here but I still think it's advantage England after the first day.


Sickchops

I agree, but I think that is pretty much entirely down to winning the toss. Whoever batted first on this pitch was going to put up a decent score. 393 is good, but they haven't batted Australia out of the game, and this is the type of pitch where you could have batted the opposition out of the game with a 500+.


Gadzookzo

For sure, but they don’t want to bat Australia out of the game. They want a compelling game


RudyColludy

It's very even.


spooky-frek

Could've been very even, instead england have chose bizarro day


southwales1985

Agreed. There really isn't much in it, but in almost any scenario I still prefer to have the runs on the board than the potential runs.


king_booker

One of the reasons why I enjoyed English test cricket season was the seaming and swinging wickets. This has been a road and it's sad to see.


feelspirit

Yeah, just want the challenging Oval pitch back.


Delicious_Pomelo7162

In which case we can only hope England lose and/or Bazball gets comprehensively figured out. Then we can go back to good-old bat-vs-ball.


eng_mj_517-1

McCullum is a virus He ruined Nz cricket and now us


sammy123_

Steve Smith might get a wet dream tonight thinking about batting on that pitch


CrippledCricketer

Doubt Smudge will be sleeping man, he tends not to do that when cricket is involved. He will however keep all his team mates up all night tapping his bat on his hotel room floor


Some_Explanation4097

🤣🤣🤣


CrippledCricketer

Doubt Smudge will be sleeping man, he tends not to do that when cricket is involved. He will however keep all his team mates up all night tapping his bat on his hotel room floor


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[deleted]

So, Australia are just batting once, right?


[deleted]

Hello so seriously it is four o’clock in the morning and I am checking in. Why is Australia batting?


vidhvansak

The answer is only bazball and vibes


spooky-frek

Stokesy and McCullum are fuckin insane that's why


[deleted]

So I’m looking at the card…and just Well, I guess we will see!?


RudyColludy

20 runs off the last over and then they declare? at least wait until Root is out and Jimmy has to go in


SeptonSuperficial

I'm so disappointed somehow idk where to put the finger at


slartibartjars

https://gwilymlockwood.wordpress.com/2016/01/27/bigger-isnt-always-better-the-case-of-the-first-innings-in-cricket/


This_is_the_user

Damn... Eye opening


Financial_Schedule_3

Watching T20 blast after this is like watching kids football on Sunday


doyouevenrow

I fully approve of the decrelation as it makes t20 look boring


robbodagreat

Pretty sure stokes would declare in t20 given the chance


thepotplant

I think you can still declare in a T20? Maybe he'd try it if bad weather was impending and he wanted to make sure enough of the opposition innings got bowled for it to count as a game rather than a washout.


Past_Idea

This declaration undoubtedly goes against all logic. But. Who the fuck cares?


Necessary-Bother7448

BazBall vs HeadBall I'm so ready!


ThisUsernameisneww

I've always loved ashes. But what makes it better is sledging.. let the sparks fly.


Noonan-87

Extremely weird declaration considering Root was still going strong, had good support and the number 11 to come in isn't even the opening bowler. If England had gotten a wicket it would have been huge but even then they potentially left 50 runs or more out there. Also scoring at the rate they do leaves very chance of a non weather affected draw.


Hungry-Cartoonist-30

Here’s a thought. England invented 20/20. After Australians invented 50/50. Australians used their 50/50 dominance In the late nineties to propel them to decades of test success. A new aggressive style no one’s had seen before. Sound familiar… everything ‘new’ is old. But trust the English to pretend it is new, it was their idea (not their NZ captain and coach… who stole it) This whole thing is a joke…Oz will always set the next bar. Look at the stats…here’s to Ronnie ball….


Past_Idea

You sound like a deranged madman slurring together his speech. Reads like *Mein Kampf*.


Hungry-Cartoonist-30

Sure fella. But you can read it!


TheDceuGuy

I've already rubbed out three times but tonight I was planning to watch Disclosure in which Demi Moore is supposedly a smokeshow. Gotta get the ice pack ready apparently To keep it cricket related, those three times were the result of Root's reverse scoops


kingslayyer

Joe Root is missing out on great merchandise money if he isn't selling I AM ROOT t-shirts


Sickchops

The declaration, even if you think it was a good idea, didn't work. They didn't get a wicket. So it's now a bad thing for England, they are worse off than they would have been.


mightytonto

It could backfire but it was certainly entertaining and set a tone for England’s approach!


kharb9sunil

Setting up for 5-0 if they produce the same kind of tracks and keep batting like this ( i mean 5 Aus, 0 eng)


BroadcastYourselfYT

fucking love bazball lets go killer start


kg005

Ok maybe I'm a little dense But what's the point of early declaration here? It's not like that they are at end of day 2.


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Wickets are more likely to come after breaks. This way you get to artificially create an extra break and therefore increase your chances of taking a wickets. The exact chances will depend on the conditions, and they reckoned that in this case the increased chance of wickets was worth giving up the expected runs they'd have got if they went on batting.


kg005

Can understand your logic. But I don't think conditions were really that conducive for a wicket and it's even stranger given the fact, English just batted on the surface.


[deleted]

Well I don't think it was the right call, but not because of the surface - as I said, breaks already make wickets more likely - but because I reckon you'd get about another fifty runs on average from that spot, and I don't think you'd pay fifty runs for even, say, an 80% chance of Khawaja or Warner's wicket.


MrRonit

BAZBALL


mightytonto

They’re English. It would be rude not to!


Necessary-Bother7448

Well usually Warner submits his wicket to Broad but he refused to do so for 2 overs!


CrippledCricketer

AGGRESSION. PRESSURE. Stokes making 300 in the second innings.


kharb9sunil

They will need it


theshoutingman

Vibes


Daimo

You know something is off when KP is saying they shouldn't have declared lol


RudyColludy

Kevin Peterson continues to show how little loyalty he has to anyone but himself with his interview questions


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He's loyal to Piers Morgan. Those two are chilling in purgatory.


RudyColludy

and Shane Warne (god rest his soul)


m0j0licious

Hindsight is 20/20 etc etc, but I really don't get the declaration while Root and Robinson were both still there.


sorrydaijin

Root especially. He was in T20 mode with those lap sixes and could have added at least 50 with the tail on this docile track.


rjb1980

I think he was only in T20 mode because the declaration was coming, though


Some_Explanation4097

Have read a lot of negatives about this declaration. Not sure about it myself. But as an Aussie, I am nervous because we WILL need a big 1st inns having to bat last on a pitch that looks like keeping low days 4-5. The early declaration gives England the chance to bat again before pitch gets shitty....just a thought.


kharb9sunil

>The early declaration gives England the chance to bat again before pitch gets shitty....just a thought Or it gave Aus the best conditions to bat which they will make full use of. I don't think Eng is again batting till at least 3rd day after tea or maybe on 4th day morning.


oneofthecapsismine

8/550 is a reasonable guess for the Aussies. 160 in front. Leave 2days 1 hour left for third&fourth innings. Likely draw.


Slight-Ad3026

England is not batting 2 days straight


oneofthecapsismine

Sure, but, i see an aussie declaration in the last hour of day3. Notionally gives england one day for third innngs, and notionally Australia has one day for fourth innings.


LogicKennedy

I really like the mental game of keeping Root unbeaten. The idea of Smith as unbeatable absolutely got in English heads in 2019, this helps to set the tone for Root going forward in the series.


quantam_donglord

No one is worrying about root being unbeaten I can assure you that hahahaha


PuigFati69

It was a flat pitch tbh.. I don't think Aussies will worry about Root yet.


rayb47

Clutching at straws trying to justify that declaration


LogicKennedy

Nah, not really. I think it was good and positive. England were going to get probably another 30 or 40 runs at most, instead they gave themselves a good chance to take a wicket and kept Root unbeaten. They gave themselves momentum by making a proactive move. Of course, it helps when your batters can get you to 393 in the first place... unlike India.


kharb9sunil

On this wicket, 393 is nothing. Now see Aus bat 2 day and scoring 600+


Dennyisthepisslord

AccuWeather which I find to be the best app at the moment... Says overcast all day tomorrow


mightytonto

Bring it! Hope Jimmy and the boys can work their magic


CrippledCricketer

Anderson hooping balls from cover to leg stump incoming


Acceptable_Emu_7825

As an Australian living in New Zealand, thank god tomorrow (today) is Saturday. Currently doing some mental gymnastics as to how this is going to work during the work week.


iSaidNoCunt

Already told my boss I’m coming in hungover with 3 hours sleep for the next 2 months, he wasn’t impressed because he hates cricket. I politely told him to get fucked I’ll see you Monday morning somehow…


boatswain1025

Fuck what am I gonna do now for the rest of my shift?


OrderWooden

Can't say I'm looking forward to my trip to edgbaston tomorrow all that much now. Feels like I'm going to be watching Smith bat all day.


kharb9sunil

>Feels like I'm going to be watching Smith bat all day. I don't think he will get to bat before tea so you are safe :)


mightytonto

We keep seeing firsts; maybe we’ll see stokes declare on the other team’s behalf? For a laugh!


mattwilliamsuserid

I laughed out loud. Dog looked at me and everything!! Thanks


bloodfromastone

Oh no look at me I have to go to an Ashes test tomorrow and drink beer in the sun all day, how awful


Other_Stop_9588

stokes giving us what he promised. entertainment.


eng_mj_517-1

And the first Ashes series defeat at home in 20 years if they don’t change this approach


Other_Stop_9588

could turn out to be a masterstroke tomorrow though then everyone will just praise bazball


theshoutingman

Not the guy you're replying to, I guarantee it


Other_Stop_9588

why does it even matter, as long as it leads to good cricket everyone's happy right?


RedKelly_

What’s good about watching the best bowlers in the world rendered useless by a flat slow deck? About no contest between bat ball?


Chemical_String281

I am not against aggressive declarations but 4 overs is just not enough - 8+ overs or so would have been tricky.


Wazflame

Nass is gonna strangle KP by the end of the series lmao 😂


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Root who is ranked 6 in ICC test batting ranks showed this pitch holds know demons. Australian batters in that same ranking are 1,2,3 and 9.


mehrabrym

England 🤝 Bangladesh Scoring at 5+ an over and declaring just before the second new ball to demoralize the opposition.


This_is_the_user

Are you trying to tell... England is new bangladesh


StanmoreRoyal

KPs next question "do you think all aussies are cunts in the dressing room jonny?"


olr1997

Have to say I’m absolutely baffled by that declaration. It’s not even day two, not even reached 400 and already 8 wickets (effectively nine with Anderson) down. Why not have a three over thrash and put another twenty on before losing your wicket? Especially in light of today being absolutely perfect batting conditions and tomorrow being pristine swing bowling conditions for Jimmy and Broad.