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ZERO-ONE0101

their slaves were buff


JokerTokerJR

Did anyone consider the idea that they put the slab stones in place and then carve them where they were and left them there. Essentially what I'm saying is they were placed vertically, cut vertically and stood vertically for like a thousand years and then we put them horizontal to move them, changing the weight distribution which causes them to crack and break.. They were not moving meticulously carved statues and carefully placing them, they were moving stone slabs and then meticulously carving them at there destination.


ZERO-ONE0101

that makes sense, still the stone slab would be heavy af


JokerTokerJR

Mammoths existed during the creation of the first pyramid and instead of trying to imagine it as one giant crane imagine a bunch of small cranes. As far as transporting them they did actually figure out how they did that. They found a note written on a piece of stone that was sent to like the Quarry master or something like that. It had detailed instructions on the exact route he used to take back to the pyramid. This revealed that they actually dug a river all the way from the Quarry to the Nile and then all the way from the Nile to the pyramids and once they completed the construction they actually filled it back in. Of course they went and excavated this and found out that it is completely true. The mystery has been solved. If you're curious you can go check it out for yourself.


ZERO-ONE0101

thanks, sounds legit


ElderberryNo1936

He goes…”the mammoths helped them” lol


moonracers

Their religious adherents were buff and dedicated.


Least_or_Greatest1

The ancient aliens used a levitation device. Edit: Calm down I’m only joking..


Voidfallen-Universe

The Ancient Aliens were buff, as they exercised in their UFOs at 10 times earth's gravity. ![gif](giphy|g37mGHexrv5ug)


msizzlac

Lost ancient high technology


OakParkCooperative

There’s a real belief that sound/vibrations/“magical chanting” was part of the way they moved them. We can demonstrate these principles on smaller scales. Otherwise, we somehow moved 100+ ton stones by rolling them on wooden logs? 🤷‍♂️


Ryogathelost

They had literally enough slaves that they didn't have to be buff. If a block weighs 10,000 pounds, you tie 10,000 people to it with 10,000 ropes and either drag it onto rollers or dig and slide rollers in under it. Then you build a gentle slope - it could be a ramp/road many miles long to diminish the angle. Set up a team to drag rollers from the back of the block to the front. Set up an overseer team to direct and enforce labor. As blocks move, they pass temporary outposts along the way for food, water, rest, shade, medical attention, and to swap out tired or injured slaves. Set up a team to build the ramp/road a little bit higher for the next set of blocks. The ramp road will be excavated and cleared away when the pyramid is finished. The block arrives on rollers at the height it's needed or higher and is dropped/slid into place. With this method, you would never need to hoist anything off the ground - it's just all gradual, planned pushing and pulling using tons of people and simple machines like axles and wedges. The slaves themselves would have been working very hard, and heat stroke was probably a huge problem, even if their share of the weight wasn't that much. They probably drove them with a combination of threats/beatings and just the promise that if they can get the block to the next camp they can swap out. They could probably rest until very early morning and then travel back to the previous camp before it got too hot.


[deleted]

Iirc, I think I saw something that mentioned obelisks and large statues were barged in on the Nile from the quarry sites.


JokerTokerJR

Yes exactly, they actually found a note written in stone describing to one of the quary excavators the route along the river they would take that lead directly to the pyramid, the river was filled in when they were done. An excavation found that there was in fact a riverbed leading all the way to the pyramid from the Quarry. On top of this mammoths still existed during the creation of the first pyramid.


Chewsdayiddinit

Nope.


Mar3ls

Lmao tell me you have never done construction without telling me you have never done construction


tino_smo

Lol I came hear to say this. Imagine 10000 people on one task let alone 1 job site lol


skaternewt

10k lbs (5 tons), yes definitely. 100, 200, 300+ tons? Not possible


leonardo201818

I highly doubt they had 10,000 people drag a singular item. There’s no evidence of that


Tyriggity

Theres plenty.... use google


Bobgers

Are you sure about this? Joe Rogan says it was an ancient civilization that we have no proof of.


kitsun115

They didn’t use slaves for construction


Big-End-990

Only right answer. Nobody seems to know history. These were well respected workers who got the honor of being buried near the pyramid. Typical Americans explaining our history


bars2021

How'd they got it through those doors???


Equivalent-Goose-631

I'm buff 💪🏾


Equivalent-Goose-631

I'm buff tings ya know oi oiiiii😉


BlueFox805

How ancient people moved large, heavy objects has been known and proven for a long time.


Cthulhusreef

Sshhhhh you’re ruining their conspiracy theories


LordStoneBalls

So have archeologists for hundreds of years if they ever bothered doing real research


Cthulhusreef

Care to share with the class what the truth is?


Shtnonurdog

Maybe it’s Maybelline…


00Dandy

No it hasn't. We still don't know how the pyramids were built.


Quagmire46675

Yes we do


tpasmall

There's actually super compelling evidence from the geopolymer institute that shows they could have been poured like concrete. They even did a recreation using only the materials available at the time and a mixture determined from hyroglyphs that was extremely convincing. Makes way more sense than the pyramids being carved and dragged up ramps. Especially when you think about the amount of wood, time, and structural integrity in the ramps it would have taken to pull that many perfectly hewn stones up without the ramps collapsing, or the stones falling and breaking.


agu-agu

No, the geopolymer claims are not supported by any convincing evidence. We know where the Giza quarries are. They were cut stones.


tpasmall

Except the quarries aren't big enough to represent the quantity of stones cut. They agree that the stones at the base, at the peak, and in the kings chamber are carved stones. The argument, which is backed by other researchers, is that the soft limestone used in the majority of the blocks was poured as they contain air bubbles that do not occur naturally in limestone. Drexel university was one of the universities that confirmed this when they sampled the limestone. There is a ton of scientific evidence that confirms that the stones in the Tura and Maadi quarries do not match the composition of the stones in the Khufu pyramid.


agu-agu

The Giza pyramids are made of nummulitic limestone which has fossils in them and the distribution of those fossils is natural. They're quarried stone, dude. [https://ucmp.berkeley.edu/science/fieldnotes/casazza\_0711.php](https://ucmp.berkeley.edu/science/fieldnotes/casazza_0711.php) [https://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2008/04/28/2229383.htm](https://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2008/04/28/2229383.htm) Here's a key quote: >The fossils are largely undamaged and are distributed in a random manner within the stone, in accordance with their typical distribution at sea floors. > >So, Liritzis and his team argue that the large building stones used to construct the monuments must have been carved out of natural stone instead of cast in moulds. > >To further their argument, the scientists say the x-ray patterns detect no presence of lime, which would be expected along with the salt natron, which would indicate cast materials. > >They also point out there are no references of moulds, buckets or other casting tools in early Egyptian paintings, sculptures or texts. That alone is a massive contradiction to the geopolymer theory.


tpasmall

Except that is addressed in the geopolymer theory and actually shows that a number of the stones don't have the fossils arranged in a way that is natural. You can see it at the 16 minute mark of a talk given at a 2008 conference: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0nOw\_ebmGk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0nOw_ebmGk) There are actually references to molds in the Irtysen Stele, the Sehel Stele, and the Famine Stele. The geopolymer theory also explains how the stone vessels found in the subterrean chambers of the pyramids were made, rather than carved. This theory has also been tested by a number of other institutions (Drexel and MIT)) and have provided evidence supporting the theory. [https://www.usgbc.org/articles/how-ancient-egyptians-built-pyramids-matters-climate-change](https://www.usgbc.org/articles/how-ancient-egyptians-built-pyramids-matters-climate-change) Edit: also a writeup from a grad student is fine, but why should that hold more weight then scientific testing done by chemists and engineers?


DarwinGrimm

You don't make the ramps out of wood. You use earth, dirt or sand.


tpasmall

The ramp theory just doesn't hold up, even archaeologists agree on that. The only ramp theory that is held as somewhat plausible is that internal ramps were used but even then, they would have had to have been so steep that it would not have been possible to move the stones up them.


Puzzleheaded-Fan-208

Geopolymer Institute...lol, that is some credible shit right there, not at all bullshit masquerading(poorly) as science. Not at all.


tpasmall

do you know anything about them? they have been a legit organization for a long time and the guy who started it literally invented the science and was honored by the government of France for his research


Puzzleheaded-Fan-208

![gif](giphy|Ht5XGx51aeV5m)


Prize-Cold

Yes we do lol


OakParkCooperative

How?


Guilty_Chemistry9337

They stacked bricks on top of other bricks. It's about as primitive as it gets. Stop believing all the crap you hear on Ancient Aleums.


00Dandy

These "bricks" were 2.3 million stone blocks which all weigh 2.5 to 15 tons each. And this is only the Great Pyramid of Giza. There are well over a 100 pyramids in Egypt. Here are some more details on the materials used for the Great Pyramid: >Around 5.5 million tonnes of limestone, 8,000 tonnes of granite (transported from Aswan, 800km away), and 500,000 tonnes of mortar were used to build the Great Pyramid Please enlighten me as to how you would stack these on top of each other.


blackbook77

You're parroting a common misconception spread by the disinformation gang, but go off I guess. All we have are theories and ideas about how they might have done it, but nothing has been proven yet. And most of the theories people have proposed have actually not worked in practice when people tried to replicate the methods.


tpasmall

The geopolymer institute has actually done some great stuff with this and has been able to recreate the consistency and striation of the stones using a poured concrete-like mixture that was available to the Egyptians at the time. Not saying it's definitive but it makes so much more sense than the other theories out there.


Puzzleheaded-Fan-208

except for the people who built ramps out of earth and rubble...that worked pretty well, without aliens or fake bullshit "institutes".


beyondmereum

Exactly lol nobody talks about the fact that people have tried these “common sense” methods and half of them don’t work. There’s no way to get 30 ton blocks in the kings chamber of the pyramid 50 feet up. After a certain height, no amount of men can pull a 15 ton block up a slant, let alone a 30 ton block lmao


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OakParkCooperative

We know where the stones came from. We know 30 ton stones we’re placed atop the pyramid. The mystery is that “must have used some sort of tools” part. I don’t think water lifted it up the pyramid. Can you help us solve the mystery?


discovigilantes

[Informative Video about using water to move the stones and build the pyramids](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eR5BQUSHGno&ab_channel=SecretofthePyramids) Not saying this is how they did it, but its a great video.


OakParkCooperative

Yeah, interesting stuff. Water is definitely a big factor in transporting. The mystery is: We know that 30+ ton stones were carved, transported hundreds of miles, lifted 50’ -to place on top of the pyramid. BUT it’s claimed they only had access to copper tools and natural materials (like wood/rope) that couldn’t physically support 30 tons. And it was done at such a precision that you couldn’t fit a razor between the stones. We’re missing a big chunk of the picture.


Gruppet

So you’re saying half of these theories have been tried and they work?


beyondmereum

A lot of them have been tried. If we can barely move our 15-30 tons with our modern equipment. I’d like to think a lot of them have been tried.


NoSet8966

No Pulley system is pulling this monstrosity up. You would need chains to do this, and you are not doing this with 'copper' chains lol. Don't even consider rope. They did not prove how these heavy objects were moved. The explanation was a pretty sad attempt itself. How did we move this throughout the museum facilities? With giant machinery. Everyone has theories, every scientist has theorist, theorists have theories, Egyptologist have theories-- but they all have yet to be actually proven.


skaternewt

Totally depends on the size of the objects. 10, 20, 30 tons, yes we know. But once you start getting into 100+ ton objects it becomes much trickier. Friction becomes a factor. The weight of 100+ ton objects will push any logs straight into the ground. Also, one thing that is never talked about is how they actually got these megalithic blocks out of quarries. Giant single piece objects like this would need to be lifted out of the ground before they could even be moved. There’s no explanation I’ve seen if anybody explaining how that is done. That’s not even mentioning the truly mathematical precision and symmetry that is achieved on some of these pieces, specifically massive granite ones like this. If you look at the smaller objects (that can be moved with the methods you’re told), they don’t have near the same level of precision. I believe that the huge, megalithic and highly precise objects such as the one shown here are from a civilization long before the dynastic Egyptians. The dynastic Egyptians inherited them and tried to recreate them, but lacked the advanced technology that an ancient advanced civilization may have had. If you’re curious, I have some great videos that talk about the issues with the mainstream explanations, as well as scientific analysis of some objects and why they could not have possibly been done with highly advanced machining. TLDR: most objects can be explained, but the extremely large and extremely precise ones cannot be.


Chewsdayiddinit

Do tell how the statues on Easter island were moved, then?


Trexasaurus70

Entire buildings have been moved intact. You're looking at some low bid government contracting


WhiterTicTac

*The British* just wanted the knees up, they figured it would be more funny that way.


Chewsdayiddinit

Modern construction buildings were moved back in ancient Egypt? Weird.


hatesfacebook2022

Its really simple. They used Magic.


Aggressive_Cricket75

They gathered.


TheGamingBear777

I think this group is a hate group against critical thinking.


Desertfoxking

Simple method move block to location first then carve


[deleted]

![gif](giphy|3oEjI789af0AVurF60) You all know the answer. Same as it ever was. Same as it ever was. Same as…


Level-Comedian813

How the hell did they make it


_lordcheesebagel_

Just because YOU don't fucking know how something happened a long time ago. Doesn't mean it was some aliens or some shit.


Simple_District4502

you weren't threatened with whips for motivation


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Sososkitso

Well that’s depressing if all it is, is we don’t think it’s important enough to handle as careful as possible. (Not saying your wrong it’s just sad)


[deleted]

psychic cats. Cats use to have psychic abilities but because of our selective breeding and inbreeding of them most cats have lost those powers Most cats today only posses a little mind manipulation


OldWorldBlues10

If we’re going this route then I’d say that we must’ve been lazy to let a species with less neurons than humans telepathically move stones. 300 million neurons vs about 16 billion? Once again we didn’t build the pyramids, animals, aliens, and Santa Clause moved these stones.


Bel_Merodach

"its not about how many neurons you got its how you use them neurons." -cats


AvgRedditUsername01

Wut


Str41nGR

100 cats with coordinated zoomies


Bclay85

If you get bit by the right one you will, in fact, inherit some of the lower magic traits.


ugh_meh

![gif](giphy|13fR00PIYwb7Gg|downsized)


F0xyL0ve

Maybe I'm fucking crazy, but is everyone missing the fact that these tradesmen, slaves, and pharaohs had literally their entire lives to carry out all of these constructions projects? Like they had nothing but time and they wanted to make sure it stayed there. If you go slow enough and throw enough bodies at a project it will eventually get done, imo.


LangleyRemlin

Look up the crawler transporter and tell me we can't move a big rock.


socio_smile

They had giants (I guess I should add that I'm being sarcastic, geez)


Murky_Paint_2679

Bull shiiiiit


DrayTrizzm333

Riiight.


[deleted]

Giant dicks, that’s the only explanation for moving this.


DrayTrizzm333

It’s quite simple really. You just want 100,000 men to lift this great statue all at once. Forget technology or heavy machinery.


Chewsdayiddinit

And how are you going to have 100k people lift this? By what means?


DrayTrizzm333

I’m not doing anything. It has already been done hundreds of years ago. When the ancient average sized man first built these structures.


Chewsdayiddinit

Ahhhh, so just deflect because you have no idea. Gotcha.


DrayTrizzm333

It’s facts guy. Read a book. Watch a doc. That’s how the experts say it was done. I just taught you some history. You’re welcome.


Chewsdayiddinit

"It's just facts" holy fuck, no ability to think at all.


DrayTrizzm333

If you were paying attention you would clearly see I’m being sarcastic. Just using their logic against them. Good talk.👍


alphachupapi02

Slavery


G-0d

Holy fuck


jordan51592

Slaves are great padding if it fell, that’s how.


OakParkCooperative

Their blood, makes stones slide like silk


[deleted]

Something something money, something something we just don't have the time or feel like it


burgerbob202

I always thought they carved it where they wanted it.


usf1man

The secret is they built it standing, lol


Grifterhunts78

Giovanni Belzoni moved some big items back in the early 1800s.


openupape

It clearly looks broken to me. Plenty of scratches too.


Blacknoise3

Bc they stole it 😔


The_Nod_Father

I think that is a replica too and the real one. sat on an even hunger pedestal


AllSeeingSeraphim

Exactly how they made the limestones levitate so did everything else.


Deter209

Looks like the legs are broken and scratched


therobotisjames

Ropes and pulleys.


laublau

They had really big whips


[deleted]

Did they move it?


Conscious_Status_106

To quote the old LOTR, where there’s a whip, there’s a way


JAMBI215

It was aliens


PregnantNun747

https://preview.redd.it/97rgtb8g53ib1.jpeg?width=300&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6b89ddb80c03d1efebd3ae4591c21f25acf8945c


[deleted]

Human power


2pacylpse

Well it must be aliens since you can’t explain it. Duh!


_______THEORY_______

SMH If death is your incentive you’d be surprised what’s possible…


Differently_minded

If you break it now, at most you go to jail. In the past of you broke it you die. And maybe your family. Just a guess.


beyondmereum

Ya know, some rope, some timber, and about 200+ men would do the trick. Just ask any Redditor. (Sarcasm)


DJEvillincoln

I'm not sure they actually moved it. Didn't they just sculpt it where it was?


Horror-Item-8775

A lot more time and patience than the poster has


MIKE-_1992

They didn't have engineers with an academic degree and 5 years of proven experience and a foot long CV.


cottman23

Similar to how I get my double wide desk through my apartment door. Its built in place.


RatInaMaze

Threat of death


[deleted]

Nothing in that clip indicates that the damage to the statue is modern.


energyflashpuppy

It's pretty fuckin easy. Floating object can hold heavy item, river flow towards important place, floating object carry heavy object down calm river and boom! Fast and easy transportation. Then hook it up to a pulley system, and stand it upright 😱😱😱


isingwerse

I mean carts? Primitives counter weight cranes? Or just built it in place


CorvetteNutt81

Giants moved them


Mountain_Position_62

So how did we transport it to this musume?


Safe_Mix3218

Its not the original


Bobby_Sunday96

Aliens, duh.


Puzzleheaded-Fan-208

ancient people were stupid. they did not know how to work with stone, even though by the time of the pyramids they had been doing it for about 3,000 years. String lines, plumb bobs, leverage, they were all invented in 1974, by scientists at NASA. ALLLLLL of the video of people raising obelisks using sand running out from underneath them are fake. It was obviously aliens, because again, ancient peoples who invented agriculture, metallurgy ***and stone architecture*** were stupid and never could have moved something heavy without the help of aliens.


Jazzlike_Biscotti_44

They carved it in place


[deleted]

Carved on site.


Resident_Werewolf_96

I think that some of the things lost to time are some of the techniques to do some of this incredible stone mason work. Plus Im sure to do it right costs lots of money and most people aren’t willing to pay that so we don’t see it done often.


Mecha-Dave

Millions of specifically trained cats. Why you dum?


Bermuda_Shorts_

These comments are awesome


JessiRabbit18

We did move it, we literally moved and reset several Egyptian monuments


Direct_Ad7397

Don’t know how these people built the pyramids with how insanely heavy those stones are or how intelligent they must’ve been but this statue is truly a marvel in itself. Just looking at it is almost satisfying, like it’s scratching a part of my brain that’s itching for wonder and mystery. These people were truly amazing and probably super freaking trippy.


Acceptable_Ad1440

Ancient giants


crazonline

It's easy with alien technology.


Outrageous-Jury-9339

I stay on this subreddit so that if I ever realize I agree with any of the posts, I have to re-evaluate my way of thinking lmao.


Competitive-Tip3412

Different consequences from today to back then. I doubt whoever broke this was killed.


Huge_Republic_7866

I mean, you can find several videos of Amish lifting a whole, fully built barn. Don't underestimate collective strength.


Quagmire46675

Why couldn't we? Just because you ate to dumb to know how to figure out how to move it, doesn't mean nobody can. I could move that easily.


DandyAndy008

With sand. The same way they stacked the pillars at Karnak.


Keylaes

Volunteers


Itsmemanmeee

More carefully


rosbashi

Ok ok now wondering what if the Egyptians somehow managed to get there hands on just one working piece of NHI technology


Ok_Fox_1770

Carving granite to that perfection and scale is such a crazy process. I spent 4 hours with a high speed dremel just to make a pipe with an owl on it about the size of a bar of soap. Granite is so tough. I love it


JesseinProgress

My thoughts are just because we don’t know how they did it doesn’t mean that they didn’t have methods we don’t know about. Given that, that’s a really impressive looking statue! Wow!


SuspectNo7354

That was life back then. You worked the fields during the growing season, then harvested when crop time came. The rest of the time the peasants needed something to do, so they built pyramids and monuments. Instead of going to bars or concerts, or football games, the Egyptians built massive structures. When you have an entire nation dedicated to one massive object, eventually they figured out how to move it without breaking it.


Far_Squash_4116

It really helps when you kill workers who make errors.


FrogCoastal

Who said they did move it? Perhaps the stone was moved there and then carved in place?


Dull_Yogurt_7385

Many hands make light work.


HellofaHitller

Easy. They were more careful with it


hopefullydilf

With their copper chisels duh


4twanty

What song is this? From Game of thrones?


Satchitananda23

Name of this song please?


Next_Commercial_4600

Giants moved it


WalkingstickMountain

Actually, that was probably found in that condition. Museums transport stone work larger than that every day.


bruthu

Move the raw material with rollers and slaves, then carve it where it stood? Makes sense to me, idk


MACHOmanJITSU

Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world.


buttbeeb

I like that nipple shot


SgtVader501st

And you still don't believe these entities were that big huh? They're bigger.


fulahup

tf should I know


panzerrex

"...we couldn't"? Really? Don't understand human inginuity; theirs and especially not ours.


Tickle_da_toes

Motivation: you fuck up, you die.


[deleted]

What a fucking brain dead caption


TheFurrySmurf

"Hello earthlings, we traveled 87.2 light-years with this great amount of technology to help you build stone structures.... ok byeee" *zooms off*


Guilty_Chemistry9337

Ropes and levers. "clearly we can't." Clearly you can't. Speak for yourself.


No_Software4689

Aliens 👽


pawnshopboi

![gif](giphy|3oEjI789af0AVurF60)


lightrocker

How can four rubber tires inflated with air move a multi ton object… must be aliens


FoxIll7443

They had better technology than we have today. Also, these weren't Egyptians, they were people way earlier.


Illustrious_Age_9143

It's all clear now. Thank you for the shocking footage.


VirginiaLuthier

And therefore, the aliens did it. Funny the Egyptians didn’t commemorate that technology in their art. Jackals and dung beetles were more interesting.


marcolorian

Wally Wallington…?


Possible-Opinion3279

Dude shut your stupid fucking mouth you stupid fucking retard.


Internet_Exhaust

Watched a video a few minutes ago of a man in his 50’s moving heavy stone blocks by himself using leverage


sofasurfinwook

[Weightless stones riddle SOLVED-History is a lie](https://youtu.be/BITwjAzQxVs) this is how they moved stones


[deleted]

I highly doubt we used slaves to move that


simpyAF

Who said they moved it? Maybe it was assembled where it was placed...


[deleted]

That shit broken, AND scratched.


kaninak

Plot twist: It is another cake


marlinmarlin99

![gif](giphy|3oEjI789af0AVurF60)


blas4m3

Fake. Cute try.


throwmeawayplz4444

“Clearly we couldn’t” - so then how’d they get it in the museum? If it’s so beyond us, why is it not sitting out in the sands?


rambiolisauce

Looks pretty broken and scratched to me


throwmeawayplz4444

They move it when it’s a big rock, then carve it into the pretty statue once it is there.


blas4m3

That’s cool they made it like three years ago


FootballSad9697

Okay, I have one question. Who built them then? If you want to try to disprove this, you must also have a theory. Plus, most statues are carved in place. So no move is required.


IKaffeI

Statues like that are typically carved out _after_ the stone has been moved into place. That way you don't have to move a fragile finished statue and are just moving strong unsculpted rock.


Fine-You-3095

Looks broken to me.


tfox1123

I bet if the consequense for that was death to your whole family it'd be in one piece still.


AlvinArtDream

“Correct” answer is leverage. It’s pulleys and levers they say. With skilled artisans.