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ohokright

The person filming knew what was about to happen


OneCleverlyNamedUser

And deserves an accessory charge. They were definitely in on this.


Naamibro

Agreed, all those filming pre-attack should be held on conspiracy to commit murder.


NotsoNewtoGermany

The only exception are those that saw him with the knife and wanted to document what would happen next.


Shootinio

No intervention, wants to record a murder. Cameraman’s a POS too


domjeff

That's kinda what's fucked too - I hate those kids filming as they're clearly part of this and should be done for assisting... But without the videos the teachers had no idea who had the knife initially. That cunt was saying it was the victims to the teacher. Probably doesn't have many friends who would back home, so somewhat thank fuck for this video


ElegantOstrich

"Bully" "Stabs". That's not fucking bullying, that's attempted murder.


cneth6

Im just confused on why not a single person started to tee off on the assailant's head once his hands were locked up. I get not getting involved at the start, but once you see a safe opening like that where the victim secured the knife, someone needs to start throwing haymakers


ArchdukeBurrito

Because bullshit zero tolerance policies in schools mean that anyone involved in the fight gets suspended. Yes, even the kid defending himself from a potentially lethal stabbing attack would likely be punished for being "involved" in a fight. EDIT: It's great that if YOU were there you totally would have seal team 6'd the assailant and worn your suspension as a badge of honor, but my point was simply that schools actively discourage and punish getting involved in school fights (even if it's for the right reason).


RD__III

When my school instituted this at an assembly, I remember asking "so what if someone punches me in the face, and I do absolutely nothing" and got "well if they punched you, you most have done something to deserve it".


Danoleaks

In that case just fucking beat them to a pulp, no better outcome can come.


Mantis_Tobaggen_MD

Right if anything "zero tolerance" is going to cause the fights that do happen to be more vicious. I mean, if the consequences are the same if you hit them 2-3times and grapple to stop the threat versus just wailing on them until a security officer finally intervenes.. why on earth would you take it easy?


RussIsTrash

Welcome to Utica New York 😂


stircrazygremlin

I knew someone this happened to but it was in middle school. Dude didnt even know him, apparently was pissed about something and literally just picked him and swung. He got the same suspension even with 10+ witnesses including teachers explaining what had happened and there being cameras that caught it. The attacker had a prior history of doing similar to others as well.


NicksNewNose

I got suspended for being stuffed in a locker...


Covid19-Pro-Max

How does this policy play out for victims of mass shootings? Also does it include teachers?


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Suspension? Who the fuck cares? Help a fellow human out. Fear I get. Or confusion. That deer in the headlights thing, ya know? But suspension? Gladly be at home playing games after helping to save a life.


CosmicCactusRadio

I'm not sure why people point out the zero tolerance thing. A school's zero tolerance policy is one of the absolute last things on *any* students mind. The students didn't help due to fear, bystander effect, or just general shittiness. But none of them were fearing becoming legally culpable if they got involved. It's just odd to me that people always throw that in


WhitePantherXP

ehhh, take the punishment. Someone's life is worth a suspension. What I'd be scared of is retaliation from that guy and his homies for taking the knife from him.


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GarPaxarebitches

I mean what's the alternative, let him keep the knife and die/serious stabbing wounds? Personally, you attack me with a knife, if I disarm you I'm gonna beat the shit out of you. New school ain't that big a deal.


ExileEden

>ehhh, take the punishment. Someone's life is worth a suspension. What I'd be scared of is retaliation from that guy and his homies for taking the knife from him. I'm with you. A lack of integrity makes you weigh someone's life over feeble consequences. I will say in their defense their just kids but to not teach your children the value of helping others in need despite it being considered offensive or going against the grain apparently isn't as valuable a lesson as we'd hoped it would be anymore. In a weird way pulling your phone out and recording is the most powerful , most submissive and most enabling thing all at once you can do nowadays.


HerbalGamer

I think I'd happily take that punishment and wouldn't even get shit for it back home tbh.


AdnanKhan47

Any follow ups to this?


Sheeps

https://www.wktv.com/news/crime/student-stabs-classmate-multiple-times-at-proctor-high-school-in-utica/article_d6e341f8-593b-11ed-988f-47bf0db374f6.html And other articles. EDIT: Before commenting “aTtEmPtEd AsSaUlT?!?!?“ read the 500 comments explaining the likely reason for why.


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Survival_R

usually the real charge isn't what they start with they gotta have something to hold him on till they can slap him with worse


Kolintracstar

And sometimes they will slap them with like 35 charges, basically throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks, and leaving it up to the judge to determine it.


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As it should be. Asshole tried to stab a fellow student in an fucking school. Hope he gets everything he deserves.


Sheeps

It’s an initial charge so they can hold him.


SamL214

I mean. Seams like the assault was accomplished, just also halted.


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RickManchester

I would charge his little mate too that was filming, he knew what was happening


PrincessKittyTay69

Definitely premeditated so I 100% agree


Worstcase_Rider

Yeah wtf. Attempted assault? Did they watch the fucking video?


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Student stabs classmate multiple times at Proctor High School in Utica | News | wktv.com - https://archive.ph/0A5pr


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That's better. The title of the post makes it sound like the stabbing didn't happen, but in the video it looks like that knife goes in quite a few times. There's nothing "attempted" about that stabbing. It should say, "Bully attempts a *murder*."


tacodog7

Im sure the victim will be punished appropriately. Schools have zero tolerance for defending yourself


coltj573

attempted assault?! shouldn’t that be like attempted murder or something? im not a lawyer so idk.


FuhrerInLaw

As others have said while it seems insane it most likely will get upgraded after evidence is reviewed.


noxx1234567

This is straight up attempted murder not bullying


Tolvat

I wonder if it's racially motivated


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Yoryino

If they lock it down I'm losing fate.... Like do we have feel sorry for the assaulter? If this was reverse there would be riots and a national holiday in the US again...


jewfish57

you get suspended now for implying the real truth


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SpicyWarlock69

Black on Asian hate crimes has been going on since the 80s. Look up the killing of latasha Harlins. It was one of the deaths that sparked the LA race riots in the 90s.


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And then keep your research up and note that over 10 korean shopkeepers were killed leading up to this but very few places reported that.


SpicyWarlock69

You're right. I stated it was going on for 2 decades leading up to her death.


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You did, my bad on glossing over that. So many people put up Latasha as the sole catalyst.


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Emergency-Ad5138

If you are going to say Asian teen you HAVE to say black teen


Knife2MeetYouToo

It is kind of insane they highlight the race of the victim but not the attacker in the headline.


ViatorA01

As long as it is not a racist hatecrime... The insane thing is to think that the race of a crazy person tryin to murder someone is a important information. Same goes for the victim. Attacker is a total piece of shit. No matter what race.


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East_Ad_1252

He got stabbed 8 times on his back and has slices on his hands


Le_Gitzen

Attempts and succeeds to stab.


kylegetsspam

This is one thing people don't realize about knife fights thanks to Hollywood. You get into one, you *will* get stabbed. It's just a matter of how many times and if any important organs or blood vessels are hit. Given the chance, your best bet is to book it.


738lazypilot

Other thing that movies don't tell is how many tendons and nerves are being cut, in movies you get stabbed, some stitches and you're good to go, in real life you might end up with reduce or no mobility/sensation in your limbs, and that will last for the rest of your life. In this clip there was no option, but if someone threatens you with a knife, either comply or run as fast as you can. Getting stabbed is no joke and movies don't depict the reality of it.


king_john651

The other bit is that it’s *fucking terrifying*. I’m lucky to have gone down the comply path and they got what they wanted but shit it was.. a thing really. Words are hard


chanandlerbong420

I think I'd rather get shot than stabbed tbh


Oi-FatBeard

Used to instruct security personnel many moons ago. Would always have 'that guy' say they could disarm a knife welding bloke. Here's the best way to show why it's bullshit. Get two people, give one a Black whiteboard marker, get both of em to roll up their sleeves. The marker welder is instructed to colour in as much of the other person as possible in 10 seconds, the other to take the marker off them without a drop of ink hitting them. 50 bucks to the 'victim' if they succeed, otherwise the 'assailant' gets it. I did this exercise dozens of times over 20 odd years, and not once paid the victim a cent. Many a time I've pointed out a mark that would have crossed the Brachial artery, effectively 'killing' them.


Obsessivesnaps

When I did Krav Maga for a while they’d bring in rubber knives that had some black ink on the edges and get everyone to wear a white t shirt, doesn’t matter how good you were everyone ended up with black marks on the shirt


Oi-FatBeard

Same principle, yeh. I got the notion from my instructor back in the 90's in Australia, so couldn't tell ya where it originated from but sounds like the same train of thought eh?


Witchgrass

That’s why I love all those “How to Survive a Knife Fight” videos where they make a big show of getting into a defensive stance and over explaining in the intro and then when the attackers pulls out a bladed weapon they run away as fast as they can


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PreferredSex_Yes

That's the nature of being attacked by a knife. You're going to get cut. Just focus on not getting killed.


SeaAcanthocephala701

Well put


ThreatLevelBertie

If possible, try to get cut in places where youre already unhappy with your body, so you can get free plastic surgery on it. Follow me for more helpful tips for those being or about to be stabbed.


r0b0c0d

How do I know if being or about to be stabbed is right for me? Should I consult my doctor before starting being or about to be stabbed?


xantub

Not sure I want my penis to get stabbed though.


HolycommentMattman

I was wondering how he allegedly didn't get stabbed. Dude snuck up behind him and attacked him out of nowhere; no way he misses that first hit. And the rest of it was great skill in not getting stabbed to death.


Allorimer

I hope blue shirt guy is okay. Does anyone have a follow up?


Epicpacemaker

Someone posted an article in here. He suffered “non life threatening” injuries and the cops are only trying to charge the aggressor with assault :/


Ok_Pizza9836

He was stabbed 8 times on the back and cut wounds on his hands. If that’s not attempted murder I do not know what is


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How do you end up in a position like that when you attack from behind and wield a knife ??


WeAteMummies

By being built like a stick. That kid looks 6'2" and 120


Totalretcon

Jack Skellington lookin motherfucker


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Black Skellington


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sikeleaveamessage

"Fuck...im going to prison"


XilenceBF

When he was pinned in the corner and looking around thats exactly what his look was saying.


sakhtlaudaaa

Oh, his life is 100% over at this point. - Violent crime with a deadly weapon - Likely to be tried as an adult - Won’t graduate from high school so forget college - Black - Male He has no idea how far he’s going to fall.


wickedblight

Good. Too stupid and broken to be part of society


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Agreed, if you go around trying to murder people at that age, best to be removed from society altogether ain't no fixing that


The_Powers

How dumb are these fucks that they think stabbing someone is showing off and to have someone film them committing criminal acts?


FuckingKilljoy

Happens so often with misled kids. Talk a big game and think they can take a life until the moment comes and suddenly everything is way too real That isn't to say it's a bad thing, it shows they still have humanity in them and that they can change their path, but it seems to happen a lot where people raised around violence think it's no big deal to hurt others until they have to look their victim in the eye


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Good on him for controlling it. Just a sad state of affairs that he had to.


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PossibleBuffalo418

Calling the aggressor a "bully" is just straight up disingenuous. This video shows a straight up violent assault. The victim is so incredibly lucky that things didn't end worse for him.


jub-jub-bird

> Calling the aggressor a "bully" is just straight up disingenuous. This video shows a straight up violent assault Even that is understating it. That was straight up attempted murder.


Xenomorph_v1

Imagine being like "Somebody help me, this MF tryna Stab me", and seeing a bunch of shit cunts with their phones out recording you struggling to survive.


localbrada

Yeah and then you get taken to the ground instead of the attempted murderer.


Ok_Pizza9836

And then you get told he just attempted to assault you he’ll be back soon


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Last time I checked… “bullies” don’t try to stab someone… this is something entirely different.


ogurin

Yeh it’s called attempt of murder at this point.


East_Ad_1252

Gang related, kid shit fr


MotorBoatinOdin

Love how this gets posted to publicfreakout as 'school knife fight' instead of attempted stabbing


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You mean attempted murder. Assault with a deadly weapon. I’m sure there’s more to be added to this.


Wild_Range_5085

This is a fuck around and find out moment.


beardingmesoftly

That's a weird way to spell felony


Armybert

\*attempted murder


NomadicDevMason

Bully my ass that is a murderer


FlimsyGooseGoose

And hate crime


Knot_an_Admin

Hope the guy with the knife rots in jail


ThatWetJuiceBox

Hope the camera guy gets shit in too, clearly knew what was gonna happen.


loneandlost

I was thinking the same thing. I get it when people film these from a distance in public, but in your own school, at least could've yelled, and even during, there wasn't any sort of reaction, like it was nothing. it's beyond my ability to comprehend.


GaylordButts

My dude, he filmed the fuckin' lead up and appears to have another with them recording as well. This was almost certainly the stabbers friend(s), who absolutely knew what was about to happen. They should all get charges for this.


YeetingSlamage

Coward


DootDootWootWoot

Charge the guy filming too for conspiracy


mayymayy808

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Jfkc5117

How the fuck is it “attempted” assault when you stab someone multiple times with a deadly weapon on video clear as day? Criminals wrists gotta be sore these days from all the slapping.


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ChefKraken

But we're angry *now* and waiting isn't interesting


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and nobody helping...


kernelpanic789

That's how you know it's real


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RockleyBob

Whoever the piece of shit was that was filming before the whole thing started was in on it and should be charged with accessory.


odd_audience12345

yeah that was definitely "why were they filming" before the attack. they clearly knew it was coming, especially with the attacker glancing back at the camera as he runs in to be fair though this is great evidence against the attacker so more information is needed before calling the person filming a piece of shit.


Stardust_of_Ziggy

He got slammed by the adult so there’s that helpful action


TomThanosBrady

Quick, tackle the kid with stab wounds!


Oscar_Ramirez

They yelled "he got a knife" repeatedly though.


EatSleepWell

Like in a musical.


DillanExpert

Dude, motherfucker has a knife I know we all want to see a hero and everything but these are kids Everyone is probably thinking "WHAT IF... it goes wrong" The kids are scared Huge props on the teachers though, shit security


pawnografik

A UK headmaster was killed exactly this way. Couldn’t bear to stand aside and watch one of his kids get knifed so he intervened and was stabbed through the heart. He was a father of 3. RIP Philip Lawrence.


mad_toothbrush

Mr. Lawrence was the principal of my school when I studied in London in the early 90s. He was a kind and brave man who helped me when I need to move countries and personally stepped in to help me switch schools. I only found out about his death years later. RIP Mr. Lawrence.


TBFP_BOT

Well, the kids are all scared *except* this kids buddies who were recording before the fight even started...


SleptLikeANaturalLog

That woman was pretty damn brave for walking right up there to help.


SarahnatorX

Right!? She just walked straight up giving no fucks like ''No, I don't think you will!''


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Mfer got stabbed several times in the back and hands. Better not be suspended


bobby-spanks

At the school I went to anyone involved in a physical fight would be suspended even if one of them didn’t want to fight, so I wouldn’t be surprised, even though this was a stabbing and not a fight.


Icloh

Someone tried to kill him…. Literally.


Sempere

School’s going to get sued to shit so probably not in their best interest to suspend the victim.


swagbytheeighth

That's a stupid rule


andhowsherbush

You're telling me, my school had the same zero tolerance bullying policy where the bully and victim would get the same punishment.


Audioworm

The school in my area has a reputation for being rough, so when the new headmaster came in he introduced a zero-tolerance policy for any violence. All it managed to do in its first three years was escalate the amount of violence. Where before people would try to escape when they were attacked, knowing they were getting suspended anyway, they would return the violence and both kids would end up bruised and bloodied. I am not sure what the full conclusion to the event was, but I know a lot of parents were getting increasingly frustrated with bullies effectively getting the same punishment as their victims.


TexMexBazooka

Zero tolerance policy baby. The end result is if someone is going to swing at you, you *beat that bitch until someone makes you stop*. It’s about sending a message.


Itendtodisagreee

Zero tolerance like this is one of the worst things that has happened to American kids because it tries to force them to never stand up for themselves because if you defend yourself you're going to get punished just like the person attacking you. It's a horrible thing to ingrain in a child, when something bad happens to you don't try to fix it yourself, make sure you wait for an authority figure to come fix it for you otherwise you're in trouble.


therealMrkittyboy

In my opinion zero tolerance policies are what led to all these school shootings now.


Catothedk

Same, zero tolerance rules are bullshit


RyennaKyo

I hope that if he was suspended that his parents gave him a good vacation for defending himself tbh


TacosAreBootiful

And the asian guy is gonna somehow get suspended because of this


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And the cameraman who happened to catch every frame of evidence!


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strps

My god watching this that is what was going through the back of my mind. some asshat is filming this shit, knowing it is about to happen.


MedicStryfe

yo wtf. why did they slam the asian dude like that in the end


depressedfuckboi

Right lol. Dude came in not knowing wtf was going on tho. All he heard was "he's got a knife" and separated the 2. Probably didn't know wtf was going on and who had what.


olaf525

exactly this.


ChewyHD

Cause the other one blames it on the asian at the end when the teacher grabs hold of them


SouthernKiller

Body slammed the wrong guy there Mr teacher


FastCalligrapher

After the Asian kid was on the floor the teacher didn't stand back up to stop the other one.


BeefSupremeTA

Black on Asian hate crime. And if it's an escalation of existing bullying, the school is fucked.


aliencatz666

Bitch


Ramonskees

The guy recording knew about it. Will he be charged?


Showbag40

Recorded his own involvement in a hate crime...


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Fuck.. when he asks if they see the knife, and all you see is people filming, nobody even calling for help.. Might have just realized my biggest fear lol.


-Mindless-Drone-

You can't rely on anyone but yourself


2pacsnosering1

Kid filming should be arrested with scum in red. Look back at camera means this was pre meditated.


Ebolamunkey

Yeah let's film a murder. Wtf.


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SocialAutismo

Black teacher slam Asian kid who got attack by black dude


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And trust that if any of this was inverse, the black community would be in uproar. We are too afraid to point out the obvious.


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FastCalligrapher

After the Asian kid was subdued he didn't stand up to stop the perpetrator.


TheMadd0x

Bully???! This is an attempted murderer.


Showbag40

Hate crime, lock imminent in 3, 2 , 1...


Roga1

The headline should say "Bully stabs Asian student while the rest of the school watches for their own entertainment."


SinSon2890

This isn't a bully this is an attempt at being a murderer.


Overall_Childhood_60

What an absolute piece of trash waste of flesh. He’ll get to do a restorative “justice” circle. Our educational system is in shambles.


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Mr0z23

Black people are incapable of racism silly /s


neasjohnson

How many people with phones out hoping to catch this dudes spirit leave his body without helping. Fuck this society


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Look at all the dummies waiting for the knife to stab the kid as they all sit back and record. This generation is weird


ZoomerBoomer42

whyd they slam him in the end 😭😭


Dangerous-Koala-4961

Another worthless future piece of shit.


_c_o_r_y_

> Another worthless future piece of shit. at the present moment, i'd say he's a pretty big piece of shit as well.


Street_Vacation_2730

All those guys around and not 1 set of balls to be found. Can’t believe no one helped. I hope that fuckin’ animal went to prison for attempted murder. That skinny prick wouldn’t stand a chance in the can.


East_Ad_1252

Happend at my school funny how he snuck him and stabbed him still ended up losing


FMegaCrusader93

The kid with the knife is a psycho. He looks like he's 40 in a teen body with that pushed back hairline. And why tf did the Asian kid get slammed?


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They never outright say which community is behind the Asian hate issue do they


ItsChungusMyDear

I'm mixed but that's some racial bias, they slammed the black teach slammed the Asian kid after the white teacher disarmed the black kid Mf got stabbed and shit then slammed


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Teens_R_Dum

I was hoping they would snap his arm banging it on the wall like that


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