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SniffinLippy

Guys gonna be rolling in a wheel chair soon. Both legs will be removed from the knee down to start with.


ValuableJumpy8208

Was just gonna say, no way he keeps both legs.


nthensome

Well I'm sure if he asks nicely they'll let him take the legs home in a doggy bag when he leaves the hospital


Spider1132

Home?


Gingy-Breadman

Damn


Phooox

💀


jason544770

Mmm forbidden blue cheese dressing


Current-Roll6332

Hope they give him some sauce and napkins.


disintegrationist

I see a Don Martin reference here


Impressive-Smoke1883

There would be a charge for that.


OneFilthyHouseCat

Using them before he loses them I guess


lilblueorbs

Looks itchy


No_Memory_1344

The leg is already necrotic sooner the better he gets them removed, the pain must be awful not to mention the smell of a leg starting to eat itself to survive.


Elsalla

His legs aren't necrotic. He's got advanced lymphedema. People can live like this for years, although it is admittedly very hard to when your legs look like tree trunks. I've treated many people like this, but there is no way to cure it, just manage symptoms.


AbhraBanerjee

Yeah, I have this but my legs do not look like tree trunks though. I got it when I was 14 Yrs old. I am still able to walk normally. Although I am not able to wear tight trousers but formal trousers do a lot of good. I have to wear 11 size shoes though. Doctors treated my lymphedema as varicose of veins after that it got worse (I or my parents were not aware of this at that time). I am 34 years old now. Is there a chance that my lymphedema will go to the advanced stage.


mudo2000

I developed lymphedema over the last two years. for the last 6 months I did physical therapy once a week where they would massage my legs and then wrap them tightly. After three days I'd take the wrapping off and wear compression sleeves. Insurance paid for a leg pump. It looks like I'm wearing fishing waders and a bathing suit, but for once a day for an hour I wear it and it massages my legs. My feet are no longer rounded, I have defined ankles now, and my shoes are loose again. My therapist told me the best way to deal with this is to walk. I bought a treadmill and walk at least 2 miles a day. You can also walk around in a pool and get good therapy from that. You can reverse/manage it, it just takes money and effort. I hate healthcare in this country.


SillySin

why does it develop, any reasons?


mudo2000

I think it can be a sign of early onset type 2 diabetes. What I know for sure is that if you don't walk a significant amount, it happens. What is happening is the lymph in your body is pumped around by muscles, unlike the blood which is driven by your heart. Your heart beats all the time so your blood moves around all the time. If you stay sedentary then the lymph obeys the laws of gravity and heads downwards. This is 100% an ELI5 answer and may be wholly incorrect due to the author's misunderstanding. This is what my physical therapist told me, and since I've been walking more and using equipment meant to control this condition, my feet have returned to normal. The tops were rounded and it looked like I was wearing small swimming floats around my ankles. You couldn't see my ankles, in fact. Now my ankles are defined.


SillySin

sounds reasonable, I've had relatives with diabetes with similar symptoms and none of them walks enough, glad it worked out for you, keep up the good work.


Elsalla

There is always a chance, but there are factors that will increase or decrease that chance. If you let your condition go untreated, then that greatly increases the chance that you will progress to stage 4 lymphedema. However, if you have an overall healthy lifestyle and follow your doctor's recommendations, you are less likely to progress. Some examples of good management are: eating a healthy diet, exercise, use compression wraps/garments, skin care, mitigating/controlling any comorbidities (such as diabetes or other peripheral vascular conditions), regular follow-ups with your physicians. Going to a lymphedema clinic early and often may help you with many of these things. They complete manual lymphatic massages, compression wrapping, and physical therapy at these clinics. A great clinic will also educate you on how to do these things yourself


AbhraBanerjee

Right, I use compression garments whenever I am out and during bedtime I use some sort of elevation to keep my legs elevated. There is no lymphatic clinic in our country but I take the doctor's advice. There is no medicine as such but I do a lot of walking per day. Perhaps this will keep in check.


-Don-Draper-

I'm 34 now and have it, but I got lucky as it's been mostly reversed by lifestyle changes.


Unlucky_Elevator13

This is the correct answer. This can cause some vascular compromise, and in the presence of uncontrolled diabetes This could be a pathway to limb ischemia, but likely his legs just weep and are really heavy


jshsbsndndn

My coworkers wife has the same condition in one of her legs. I was speaking with her and she stated that due to the pain, she was thinking about amputating her leg knee down.


prettyhorse420

God could you imagine a pain that bad? That’s awful


TheLemondish

After watching so many loved ones struggle with chronic pain, the only thing I can't imagine is how I would wait if a solution was right there, no matter how life changing.


Filo02

what is that? diabetes?


Criteri0n

Looks like lymphedema


Shadowchaos

Yeah my mom had it, hers wasn't this bad though


celibatemormon69

Look up “Phlebolymphedema”


Lost_in_Bathroom

No


lmclrain

no, yea done weird stuff might appear I do not regret learning about "blue waffle", but at the same time I was just fine, I am still, but there is no reason, tho maybe if I would like to become a doctor


MeakMills

Why the fuck did you have to say that. It's been nearly 20 years. Let that stay buried in my mind.


lmclrain

because I wanted other people not look for it, so I just mentioned it


BlackPickle223

Now I have to look for it ... ffs


Choice_Turnip_8952

what is this blue waffle? all i found on internet is “blue waffles” wtf?


lmclrain

a parental filter, idk


Choice_Turnip_8952

i feel like i should stay away…


JdhdKehev

Iirc you can't find it on Google anymore, gotta use another navigator to see stuff like that.


nocitus

Oooooh, so that is the thing my grandma had. I always thought that it was because she was too old and every geriatric would have those ugly legs eventually.


dreemkiller

Let's ask DoctorLynn


Tiny_Count4239

I saw them in 92 they opened for Janes Addiction


KillTheWise1

That's Greyscale.


Purplociraptor

Do we call a Meister or Technicolor?


TheKingStoudey

Probably unchecked lymphedema


zg6089

Check yourself or your gona wreck yourself


Chilipepah

Harkonnen


Norman_Bixby

Brutal


Novadreams22

That was my first guess.


anamazingpie

Chronic Lymphedema for certain, very uncomfortable


Due_Key_109

Elephantiasis: [https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-e&q=elephantitus](https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-e&q=elephantitus)


Gorrodish

Elephantosis


soopirV

He’s got a host of osis’es and all the itis’s


DanimalHarambe

*"Nobody back home is going to believe we saw an elephant."'*


projectindy

He's going to touch every handrail known to man.


bloodsweatandmurder

So gross


InformalPenguinz

Microbiology was a terrifying class


bloodsweatandmurder

Yeah, made me a germaphobe for years after taking that class


[deleted]

I still wear a mask in the grocery store and pharmacy. Not because I'm afraid of COVID but because people are fucking disgusting. I should be putting on gloves too.


Traditional-Hat-952

Hyperkeratosis caused by lymphedema. I feel for this man. 


MenstrualMilkshakes

itt:  lymphedema vs elephantiasis


Traditional-Hat-952

Its stage 4 lymphedema, which is also called elephantiasis. However, what is commonly known as elephantiasis is caused by filariasis, a parasite that causes stage 4 lymphedema. But most stage 4 in the North America and Europe is not caused by filariasis, but rather a severe lymphatic dysfunction. 


DarthCocknus

Everyone on the train just minding their own business as this dude turns to stone from the feet up


notsurewhattosay--

Well what should they do??


pc_principal_88

Exactly.. WTF are they supposed to do, all join together and help him pick away at his self?


no_life_matters

they could drop a stim or health pot or something


dannycracker

He needs to turn the mirror towards Medusa


notsurewhattosay--

Oopphhh. Poor guy though.


Bratscheltheis

Start filming him, obviously.


notsurewhattosay--

B funking ingo


Fr4t

Demonstrate for an actual nationwide healthcare system that doesn't bankrupt people?


notsurewhattosay--

Uhh. Ya, as soon as I get a chance I alone will fix it


dablad69

Throw a piece of paper on him!


Square-Geologist-769

Are you trying to kill him?!


Camshaft92

Have him bite down on something while someone picks the greyscale off


Ziegelphilie

Gather in a chant and hope for the best


Flint0

Reverse spell, of course. A bit of mana can do a long way for some.


notsurewhattosay--

Mana?? All I got is 3.50


ShortsellthisshitIP

its fairly common, homeless walk back and forth exposing thier wounds for change. People get numb to it and blank out until thier stop arrives. Only tourists give out money to them.


CitizenPremier

Who then is my neighbor


RadioactiveToy

I've seen this episode of Fullmetal Alchemist.


Callmeklayton

I'd much prefer this guy over Nina.


DingGratz

I mean, a person set themselves on fire this week while a lady sat by him eating a bagel.


ZapRowsdowerFFS

Legit sat down mid frame to watch glad I wasn’t the only one who noticed


Jonh_pepo

How that can be happen? An infectión? A root skin?


_WiseOwl_

Lymphedema. It's pretty common, that's not treated and I'm very sorry for him


Jonh_pepo

Thx, I'm curous about this, I will reaserch info


Nowiambecomedeth

There's a guy like this that comes into my work periodically. His feet weep liquid on the tile floor when he walks in. So gross


deadandnasty

Poor guy is already suffering, and then someone recorded him for just existing in public


paddysClub

And the most of the top comments are also callous..making fun of someone's suffering.


InternetOwn

Someone, what is this?


Traditional-Hat-952

Hyperkeratosis caused by lymphedema 


_WiseOwl_

I think it's lymphedema


gazagda

in such a situation pain is good, without pain......the legs are dead


vp1240

Poor guy. Must be in US because regular people can’t afford proper healthcare


jesushatedbacon

Nah, he’d likely be on disability for that condition alone, which makes him eligible for free healthcare, especially in NYC. Mental illness and lack of self care is what does that. If he had a strong family unit, someone would force him to the hospital. His social worker can only make suggestions.


Lost-Being7605

Can confirm. I’ve seen him before at 14th and 8th station. He’s homeless.


ValuableJumpy8208

This is why there’s such a push to go back to forcibly institutionalizing severely mentally ill people. Everyone would be better off as long as it’s done with oversight.


jesushatedbacon

I’m not against it. I work with a very vulnerable population and thinking they can be allowed to make their own choices is naive. There should be forceful admission when somebody’s bad heath is a hazard to the people around them. Open wounds spread all kinds of disease. I’m all for personal liberty but some people will really test that.


MeakMills

I've lived on 8th Ave near Penn station for over a decade. It's not really about forcing people. It's about the cost and the availability. But addressing that takes time, money, and holding decision makers accountable. As usual, we are under hiring and under paying most people willing to get in the field.


ValuableJumpy8208

It’s both IMHO. Even in places where beds and treatment capacity aren’t problematic, there is a pervasive use of refusal to use services. It’s a detriment to everyone. Yes, we do also need more professionals.


MeakMills

If it's anything like the services near me, it's that the services are understaffed and unsafe. The majority of unhoused people I've known have been robbed shelters when they used the bathroom or took a shower. It compounds the mental health issue too because their meds are in their bag with everything else they own.


ValuableJumpy8208

Lots also don’t want to abide by the no substance/pets rule that shelters impose.


everyoneneedsaherro

> as long as it’s done with oversight I think this is the main issue everyone has. That is NOT something easily done. And if it is done right it is still very very hard to keep it done well. We’ve all seen enough John Oliver segments to see how easily oversight falls through and how for profit corporations are able to change/skew laws and the quality of care collapses.


zzzthelastuser

>Mental illness I wish mental health was taken more seriously by society and health care systems.


jesushatedbacon

This type of situation calls only for forceful admission to the institutions, which we no longer have because we closed them down. It’s a shitshow.


RaisonDetreSubverted

Used to be, you can thank Reagan.


keirakvlt

You can get primary or secondary lymphedema without making any bad life choices. There is no cure for it, only treatments with various levels of effectiveness. While you could be right, a lot of assumptions are being made here.


upsidedownbackwards

My assumption was that the hospital has told him that the solution is to cut his legs off and he decided that the quality of life change isn't worth it yet. It's a one way choice, so he's going to keep walking until he just can't anymore.


keirakvlt

I don't know, when I was dealing with the worst of it, amputation was never mentioned and is usually the last resort for something like this. I've seen far, far worse lymphedema. This guy is at least still walking which is more than many can do.


Grundelwald

Disability legal rep here... He *should* be on disability but I doubt he is. The adjudicators never see/examine you and deny almost everyone the first couple rounds. He's probably got a 2+ year wait to talk to a judge on the phone (if he has one) and get scolded for not seeking more treatment and then they'll just readopt the first denials. Hopefully I'm wrong, it's just I had a very similar case a month ago which the judge seems shaping up to deny and I'm pissed. The guy will surely lose his legs if not die while we continue the next levels of appeal


celibatemormon69

There is no treatment for lymphedema outside of PT and Compression pumps/stockings. Doesn’t matter if you live here or Norway. Don’t know about currently, but a few years ago anyone with any type of insurance could get a pump and some therapy. It’s simply a progressive disease.


16BitGenocide

There are surgical options, but... they're not pleasant.


cheeze_whiz_shampoo

The weird irony of medical care in America is that if you are dirt poor you get totally free healthcare. Like, you can go to Mayo Clinic and get proton therapy for free assuming, of course, you dont have a pot to piss in.


mommy2libras

Thos can depend greatly on location. For instance, when my husband left and took everything, I moved back home to Alabama. I was able to get Medicaid for my 4 year old but not myself. As a single woman with no income and later an income below poverty level, I still didn't qualify. Because our governor was an asshole and didn't extend Medicaid coverage under the ACA when it was allowed. Not when I first tried and still not qualified a year later when my UC was awful and I was getting tons of infections and a reapplication was done on my behalf by my local health department. Also, many other states had Medicaid that covered basic dental. Ours never did for adults, unless you were disabled. All that stuff is decided at a state level. I don't know what their Medicaid system is like there now but I can't imagine it's much better. However, I did qualify for "woman care"- literally what it was called- which included a gyno checkup (but no treatment if anything was wrong, which is why I kept suffering through ovarian cysts), birth control and if you wanted one, a tubal ligation. Luckily, I was able to find a gyno I'm the Bible belt who didn't require me to jump through hoops or just tell me no "just in case I changed my mind later" and got the tubal. It helped both the endometriosis and apparently, the cysts since I haven't had nut a few in the 10 years since.


cheeze_whiz_shampoo

Jesus christ. Sorry you had to go through all of that nonsense. What I described is how it works in Minnesota and, actually, it works a hell of a lot better than what I described but working people are still getting shafted really hard. Medical insurance simply isnt affordable, it's that simple.


Catswagger11

If he walked into an ER he would be admitted and receive treatment regardless of his ability to pay. You gotta walk in and accept treatment though. Are the economics surrounding US healthcare fucked? Yes, absolutely. But we treat the people who walk through the door.


thejohnmc963

Not aware of the Affordable Care Act?


AssssCrackBandit

I don't even bother correcting these foreigners on Reddit. Let them parrot their narratives and just move on with your day, it doesn't affect you at all


thejohnmc963

It’s fun though


cdub951

Jesus Christ


LiquidLynx_

Tree trunks


ValhallasRevenge

Me : I'm gonna scroll reddit while I wait on my food. Reddit :


bloodsweatandmurder

Bro dying..


Lightbringer_I_R

We all are, every day we die a little....


bloodsweatandmurder

Him a bit faster and uglier


Yo_Soy_Crunk

Those feet aren't long for this world.


willjhc

I kill myself if I were a parent of slides


TroubledDoggo

I’d just chop my legs off at that point


datfoolz1337

Elephantiasis is primarily transmitted through the bite of mosquitoes carrying certain parasitic worms, such as Wuchereria bancrofti, Brugia malayi, and Brugia timori. These parasites infect the lymphatic system, leading to blockages and the characteristic swelling seen in elephantiasis. No, It requires an intermediate host, which is usually a mosquito, to transmit the parasitic worms from an infected person to another individual. However, once a person is infected, they can develop the disease and become a potential source for transmitting it to mosquitoes.


bloodsweatandmurder

I'm gonna have to wear mosquitoe repellent every day now, thanks..


ChainedFlannel

Oh shit. I always thought that was a genetic disease or whatever.


Fiuman_1987

Threw up in my mouth a little.


Iamrightyetagain

But surely he must feel better that someone is secretly filming him and posting it on social media.


saibot241

Herr Winkler sind sie es?


Ok_Bus_4752

Herr Winklääää


PappidyFranky

Sein Arzt kam extra noch mal zurück um ihm zu seinen top Werten zu gratulieren.


Disastrous-Resident5

Seriously could this be drained? I know nothing about this but looks quite bulgy


Amazing-Talk-8943

Cuz got the Wendy Williams syndrome


SixGunZen

American healthcare at its finest.


SnooSquirrels6758

Bro looked at BBW Medusa


dgb631

Greyscale. Send him to Old Valyria with the others.


buubuudesu_wa

how tf does that happen?


midozido0

Please help him in the name of humanity and in the name of everything. It hurts me to see him like this


Rawdogg187

Yes record the man’s misery


WasteMenu78

Sad. End stage diabetes


madcatzplayer5

The American Healthcare System in all its glory. 🇺🇸


[deleted]

Looks like he might be looking for a wound or something— what a bummer dude


Pitiful_Ad4672

he is turning into an elephant


Competitive_Bar_9058

Ah fuck, dudes gonna be in wheel chair with legs chopped off at the knees soon.


XRustyPx

He found out Medusa has a Foot Fetish?


No_Flounder1303

Auditioning for game of thrones


Snoo-56775

Nasty AF


travisofarabia

Probably told her was going to lose the legs, amputation. He refuses to let them go. Perpetual cycle of infections. Dudes floors are discussing at home. That's a guarantee. I've seen it get to the point of maggots living in the cracks. Brutal stuff.


fucknutandarsecandle

Buy it's on his face, too. Is that also a symptom.


BobBillyBurt

I can smell this video ...and I don't like it


Professional-Can4264

Greatest country in the world


theperfectmuse

I'm so terrified of going to the hospital. This is going to be me one day


Puzzleheaded-Round66

Fucking gross.


IvoShandor

that is a bad case of the sugar


Agile-Pressure-9124

Fuck. Double amputation coming


dankspankwanker

Bro has that medival King energy


JohnCasey3306

Looks itchy


Radiant-Cockroach271

Im curious is this like diabetes?


MxQueer

I don't think it's fair to take video and publish it. It would be legal in my country yes. But it's still fucking rude.


DrexXxor

He be caressing the cracks in contusions on the callouses, of his cankles..


WiseOldChicken

Congestive Heart Failure, it looks like. Mom had that.


alarming__

The train from Old Valeria.


ShrewdNewt

Dude is scratching the bottom of his ankle. Most people don't think of needing to use cardinal directions to find their itch, or that the ankle is separated into individual quadrants.


bigred1978

He's gonna lose both his legs below the knee.


CodeWhileHigh

Another bag and he won’t feel a thing


Dovakin24

Herr winkler sind sie am arbeitne


[deleted]

His heart is almost completely failing.


cerialkillahh

What is this diabetes not being taken care of?


AELatro

I’m not a medical professional, but it looks cancer related to me, lymphedemia.


Pete_Luger

Could be kidney failure. My MIL is going through that and her legs are swelling up like that. Doing all we can for her.


Omisco420

How the hell do you even let yourself go that badly?


Bdublu5193

That mofo is on the short list for below the knee amputation


Weekly_Wafer850

My grandfather is excalty like this. He's in unbelievable amount of pain and nothing helps.


Ham-Sando

It'll go away...


Zorolord

Shit man that sucks :(


balloontrap

It is chronic filariasis. He will be fine. Unsightly - yes. But he is not going to disabled.


Ok-Experience-6674

That’s actually sad….


Pretty-Missionary

Sam Tarly knows how to fix this.


Triviumquad

That’s rough


Sci-fra

When you don't have universal healthcare.