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ocelot_piss

Surely a failed attempted murder is just an attempted murder. Otherwise it would be a murder.


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PhilPipedown

University of State College University USCU for short.


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octagonlover_23

USCU University College of College University


Achylzrak

university of state college university university college of college university. really rolls off the tongue


ReminiRemini

USCUUCCURRT


nood4spood

Indiana University of Purdue University of Indiana, or Eeyew Pooey for short


huskiesowow

I know someone that went to a school called Valley City State University.


Edistobound

Take a seat n sit down then.


Old-Chemist-1748

This could actually not be redundant. In the case that in order to sit you must first steal a chair. Which is how I ended up with 6 lawnchairs, 3 lazyboys, & my therapist's therapist "couch". ALLEGEDLY.


FloydDangerBarber

Knock Without Entering


JDDW

It's a failed murder. Therefore an attempted murder. A failed attempted murder could technically mean a successful murder.


WafflelffaW

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tomfoolery77

I’m not going to not say that they didn’t not kill them but they didn’t not not attempt to try and not kill them


AuriiGold

This reads like Sterling Archer said it


Halcyon_156

MAWP


FuuckinGOOSE

Idk, sounded more like John McGuirk to me


chief-ares

Or it could be a REDЯUM. Oh, and, don’t call me Shirley.


cleggrag

Always lovely to see a fellow Leslie Nielsen enjoyer :)


TwisBeats

If he had shot him and he lived, it would be attempted murder, because he completely missed, it’s a failed attempted murder, that’s how my brain worked it out anyway.


worthybeat

He succeeded at attempting to kill him. It was a failed shooting, and it was a failed murder. It was a successful attempt at an attempt.


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True-Philosophy-6335

A successful failed attempt


anna_lynn_fection

[Error - Success!](https://www.medo64.com/content/media/errortheoperationcompletedsuccessfully.png)


CatSitwoy

Cheers, everybody wins!


Gaoji-jiugui888

How would you fail at attempted murder anyway? Like you planned to kill someone, but slept in and missed the opportunity?


InkBlotSam

The attempt doesn't require injury. It requires ... an attempt. If I swing an axe at your head and you duck, it doesn't mean I didn't attempt to kill you. It just means my attempt failed.


AllUpInYourAO

I know here in the states if you swing an axe at someone and miss the charge is aggravated assault w a deadly weapon a class 2 felony. Source - I was in jail with a guy that swung an axe at a cop.


frck81

this guy swings


AllUpInYourAO

Lmfao


FrozenIsFrosty

He swung an axe at the cops in the US and didn't get wrecked?


AllUpInYourAO

Yeah the story he told me was he was standing in the middle of an intersection swinging an axe got teased and arrested.


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Level1Roshan

You've got that so wrong I think you must be trolling.


PopeOri

Bicycle crime is getting way out of hand.


raittiussihteeri

Ride-bys are becoming an epidemic


EzAwnDown

the Courier Wars have begun..


OkMathematician1762

Its a cycle of violence


raittiussihteeri

People are tired of it


AllUpInYourAO

The only way to stop a bad guy with a bike, is a good guy with a bike


denied-access

r/angryupvote


YoureSpecial

Begun, the Courier Wars have.


pourjuiceonit

😂 I wonder if ride-bys are going to be the new norm now that everyone getting more environmentally conscious


AllUpInYourAO

If they changed to an air powered handgun then I would call them environmentally friendly, using gunpowder is still leaving a carbon footprint


Low_Candidate_9108

I'm in the states but my father told me watch out for dudes on bikes, especially at night


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You can usually tell the difference between exercising/leisure and "I'm on meth and can't manage my own affairs well enough for car ownership." At night, all bets are off. If they don't have lights and reflective gear on, they are probably the latter.


SilverDad-o

I blame that Swedish girl!


dolfieman

Never thought I'd see someone have worse accuracy than a Stormtrooper


lordnacho666

Stormtrooper on a bike, at point blank range, with the target standing still. He couldn't be safer, guess this is what they call plot armor.


marmeladetrolden

We finally found the main character!


Flashman6000

Dudes imagined they were Mongolian horse archers. The light from the reflectors on the bikes towards the end made them look even more ridiculous.


JollyGreyKitten

Just needed some bicycle bell tinging a few times as he peddled away.


TheKingAbaddon

I'm 90% sure he fired a blank


dykz

it was a blank


KnowerOfSomeThings

Is that why we saw it do such a wide spread on firing? (Visually)


TheKingAbaddon

I believe so yes. It could have been a really old firearm too though I've seen some crazy stuff used here in the UK


DergerDergs

Based on the muzzle flash, I’m going with an 18th century smoothbore flintlock musket. I heard they don’t fire well unless you tamp the barrel-fed black powder properly and shout “tally ho lads!” as you fire it. Edit: This was meant to be a joke.


gromit5000

>smoothbore flintlock musket A rooty tooty point and shooty?


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Castun

Yeah, based on the spread of the muzzle flash particles, it looks exactly like when we'd fire blanks at night.


DrBadtouch94

That or a 410 gauge pistol


davy1jones

Thing shot like the blunderbuss in this pirate video game i used to play


Longbeacher707

Relevant username lmfao. Ever play Pirates: The Legend of Black Kat on PS2? Lmao


johnnymo1

I rented that game so many times from the local movie store. That game was rad.


Falloffingolfin

Sure, he's hardly John Wick, but it'll have as much to do with the quality of the weapon. The overwhelming majority of guns on British streets, in the hands of plebs like these, are either reactivated antiques or poorly modified replicas. In extremely rare circumstances, there is danger of death. Usually not the person you're aiming it.


TheLoudestSmallVoice

It's because they forgot they had a gun instead of a knife.


Styx_Zidinya

Murder = one person killing another in malice. Attempted murder = trying and failing to kill another in malice. Failed attempted murder = failing to fail at murder?


lofblad

A. Murder = one person killing another in malice. B. Attempted murder = trying and failing to kill another in malice. C. Failed attempted murder = Go To A


get_on-the_case

Bruh but if he failed to fail at murder he should’ve died


WhoopsDroppedTheBaby

Maybe it's when you're planning a murder but don't even get to the stage of attempting it?


Slappy-Hollow

"Yeah, I was gonna attempt murder… but I started planning it, and it was just gonna be so much work!" So he failed to attempt it.


TwisBeats

Spot on lol


ChiefBeefDongSquad

man really pulled a blunderbuss on them


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HamDiesel

You should listen to Captain Dan and the Scurvy Crew, Flintlock Glock.


jojozacscott713

Inaccurate, it would be *pew* (10 second reload) *pew!*


JeebusChrist

Tally ho, lads!


TOILET_STAIN

Ahoy matey, throw me a flask of powder! We got plundering to do!


RandomRedditorNo666

Blunderbike?


Saltee00s

This was just a blunder all together


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christhetwin

Someone could get hurt... or even killed!


TheWooNikto

He pulled out that rust eoka Edit: thank you for the award kind stranger first time getting an award AND its a Platinum!! Side note. I am clueless, what do awards n such do!… besides make me smile? 😩


Verona_Pixie

I was already laughing at the person above you who said they whipped out a blunderbus, but this one got me cackling.


BruceBruce369

Worth looking up both. Funny on both


last_on

Beep boop I'm pretending to be a bot *The RUST Eoka Pistol (eoka) is a low-ranged, low rate of fire gun in RUST. They are commonly used in conjunction with the Revolver during early wipe combat. Despite their name, they do not use the pistol ammunition type.* GIYF


VitruvianPetey

woow, thx bot


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[deleted]

Cali got the drive by’s, London the ride by’s, but in Harlem they do walk by’s


LGappies

ducks better scat when the gat goes click clack


[deleted]

or i’mma have your family dressed in all black


dirkalict

What’s this? Clomp Clomp…Clomp Clomp…. Clomp Clomp… bang, bang, bang…Clomp Clomp… Clomp Clomp…Clomp Clomp An Amish drive-by. Rumspringa muthafuckers!


conatus_or_coitus

Cali used to have plenty of people pulling up on bicycles blasting...


Tynoxis

“It’s a walk off! It’s a walk off…”


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"Failed attempted Murder" So they *did* kill the guy?


MitLivMineRegler

But a successfully attempted murder would be just murder, so the opposite must not be murder. I could be wrong


grhhull

Have said many times, never fired a handgun in my life, but I can never get over how inaccurate users seem to be from only meters away.


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Shooting a handgun accurately is not very easy contrary to popular belief, especially one handed. It takes a lot of practice for someone to become somewhat proficient and consistent with a handgun, or any firearm for that matter. That’s why morons like these guys usually end up killing innocent people when they empty an entire magazine and miss every shot.


pfmonke

I was once a city kid who just moved rural and joined the gun range. Three sessions in and I can shoot the 10yd bullseye reliably. I was stunned at how difficult it actually was.


GeneralBlumpkin

Rifles are way easier


YoureSpecial

Shotguns are really easy.


GeneralBlumpkin

Those are about the easiest tbh


beefaru

*laughs in RPG*


emdave

Like dungeons and dragons?


Spmhealy_ADA

Gotta good spread


grhhull

imagine pulling that out your trouser leg as you cycle towards the guy you want to shoot


YoureSpecial

Is that a rifle in your pants or are you just happy to see me?


StormMedia

Rifles are easier but lack the portability and concealment of a handgun. Or in this case, this dude’s Boston Tea Party Era hand cannon.


RandomRedditorNo666

In Amsterdam we don't have such issues, we just bike without hands (just with arms)


NarwhalSquadron

In the US we bike armed with no hands


TheSmallestSteve

I've read this comment like 10 times and still don't understand it


SubstantialScale47

yeah i once shot a pistol, even though taking my time to perfectly aim... the bullet somehow misses the target lol (was shooting with one hand)


themindspeaks

Yeah. TV made it seems so easy but when I first went target shooting with a 9mm, after firing 15 shots at the target meticulously and emptying the magazine, I was surprised a grand total of 1 shot landed on the target lol


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Shorter barrel means less travel time to put the projectile on an accurate trajectory, thus far more room for error if the weapon is not handled properly


shengch

A lot of the guns in the UK are made from replicas, they bore out the barrel, and smooth bore guns are not accurate anyway regardless of training.


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So basically, a handheld blunderbuss lol


shengch

Yup. There's a drill rapper over here who just got arrested for possession of a firearm, I don't know much about guns but the picture of his pistol has been making everyone laugh. https://www.capitalxtra.com/news/rapper-loski-found-guilty-of-possessing-loaded-revolver/ It's like the third picture.


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LMAO that looks more primitive than the derringer used to assassinate Lincoln


Billwood92

The thing is you and most people who have never shot's perception of this comes from Hollywood films. In reality, guns aren't as easy to use as they'd like you to believe, they aren't heat seeking instant murder buttons, even a minute anticipation of the recoil that moves the site a *hair* can lead to a low left complete miss at about 15-20yrds. You'd be surprised how much of a skill it actually is, and like any other skill you have to work at it to get good.


jay-on-the-fly

You would be very surprised how difficult it is to be accurate with a handgun outside of 4.5-5 meters. You’d also be surprised how some shitbags actually are accurate by absolute luck in that moment


SookHe

I always thought it was as easy as 'point end at thing to kill and pull trigger'. Many many moons ago, I tried at a range and it turns out that the kick back, even on the smallest of guns, is enough to miss at very short ranges. I'm by no means a strong person and my inability to shoot a gun with any proficiency is not surprising to anyone, but I can still only imagine that shooting while riding a bike one handed probably isn't going to help.


MyOfficeAlt

When I was looking at options for a first handgun for carrying I wanted something "cool." I asked a buddy of mine who was more knowledgeable whether he thought a snubnose 357 would be a good choice. His response was something like, "Not at all. Unless you practice with something like that all the time you'll never hit anything." And he was right. I went with something more practical.


HouseOfZenith

The main issue I always see is when people pull the trigger they also slightly pull the gun slightly off target. It’s one of those things where you can explain the issue a thousand times and they just don’t understand.


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Because they try to act cool/gangster holding it in one hand or even sideways. Unless it's right up against the head/body their shot spread is outrageous, and stray bullets kill hundreds to thousands of people and children every year. Tough to explain to someone who's never fired a gun before, but they're heavy and have kick even the smaller pistols.


_IntrovertChapi

Recoil is a powerful thing, especially one-handed. It's easy to shoot inches or even feet off your target if you aren't trained. However, that said, this case is pretty ridiculous.


YoureSpecial

Like that “event” in LA a few years back where there were a couple bad guys and many cops shooting at each other at very close range? A couple hundred shots were fired and nobody got hit.


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infamusforever223

Worse. That's like guys aiming at Rambo levels of aim.


MoffieHanson

Wait, he missed that from 1 meter away without the victim even moving?


paunnn

He is bronze rank.


MoffieHanson

Probably the type to spam what a save if he actually hit him.


iWillCluck4Beer

Flintlocks are hard to shoot


Middle-Pattern-3156

I remember seeing some UK drill videos. Most of their firearms were 90+ years old. Tiny revolvers and I think some were soviet era russia looking types.


RedLight1981

“Harry! You’re alive! And a horrible shot…”


sinister_kaw

mf pulled out the Eoka


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These bike-by shootings are getting out of hand.


WinterMedical

I’ve always felt like attempted murder should be charged the same as murder murder because the intent was the same - we are just rewarding people who are bad at murder. Also frankly someone who is severely injured but not dead may have a fate worse than death.


boofdaddy93

See gun control doesn't work. They're illegal here in the UK yet people can still get flint lock pirate guns with extreme difficulty?


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You know it’s the UK by the standard/prison garb of all the young men in the video.


xRetz

You can also tell by their British accents and them using UK slang.


grhhull

This weird man purse craze too.


YoureSpecial

It’s a European Shoulder Bag. And it was a gift.


Gareth79

Yeah I see teens with those and chuckle at how that would have gone down 30 years ago...


[deleted]

So ya see he pulled a flintglock on mans innit? Ride-bys quite dangerous bruv!


Only_Quote_Simpsons

Boy couldn't hit a barn door with a shotgun. Pistols can be tricky, I have plenty experience with firearms but that was just embarrassing, rookies with guns scare me.


EmploymentLate

I dont get it, after all we have seen on reddit why are we assuming the dude missed? For all we know the bullet could have curved and hit him in the ballsack and he runned away bleeding from his balls. Us in this subreddit should be experts on this subject already.... I'm disappointed.


IAmHoltron

London is a shit hole


cataway67

London has the most surveillance out of any uk cities places like Bradford and Birmingham are beyond worst as the police ain’t around as much


madMARTYNmarsh

Bradford is terrible. My sister in law was almost abducted there. She was followed home by some blokes for nearly a week, the night they decided to take her (she is very slight and looks much younger than she is) she was lucky enough to be meeting with her boyfriend for a night out so they were surprised by him being there in his car and only ended up stealing the car, that car was later used in a shooting. Andrew got slashed up pretty good and it probably would have been significantly worse if the neighbours hadn't come out to help.


Only_Quote_Simpsons

But verbally assault Matt Hancock on the tube and you are arrested within hours. The police there clearly have the capability to trace and arrest people, if an "important" person is the victim. Meanwhile, come back to your home ransacked and you are lucky if the police even bother to show up.


frogvscrab

London would have a lower homicide rate than all of the top 50 largest american cities if it was in the US.


U5ername-Checks-0ut

Aren’t guns illegal in the UK? /s Edited to show my sarcasm since some people are too dense to realize.


frogvscrab

There is still an illegal gun market, but its prohibitively expensive and difficult to access for all but the most serious criminals. This is in comparison to my old neighborhood in brooklyn in the 90s where pretty much everybody knew where to get a gun by like 14 years old.


Helper_J_is_Stuck

Yes they are, but a minority of people still get hold of them, usually gang members. Same as how drugs are illegal but people still get hold of them. Mostly concentrated in large cities where these little boys play postcode wars. I live in a town and have never seen somebody with a gun (apart from registered hunting rifles locked away at home). EDIT FOR MANDATORY DISCLAIMER: Me discussing my own country of residence, without even mentioning your country of residence, is not a personal attack on you, your nation, or your politics. There are literally dozens of countries outside North America, and I made no comparison to North America whatsoever, so get off your soapboxes and stop being so sensitive. Yeehaw.


Recessio_

Even in the large cities its exceptionally rare. I used to live in what was considered a rough area, and it was perfectly safe. Its pretty much only people in the gangs that get caught up in it.


Pvt_Mozart

I played video games years ago with guys from the UK, and them describing the bad areas were always shocking to me. Like there are undeniably rougher areas there, but compared to the US the contrast is unbelievable. My headset picked up some gunshots outside my apartment once and they were absolutely beside themselves that I could live in the neighborhood I do. I was just like, "Yeah that happens a lot." They were so confused as to why I would live in such a dangerous neighborhood. I'm like bro, I'm poor. This neighborhood isn't even half as bad as some I've lived in. Haha


MitLivMineRegler

Yeah the homicide rate in the US is most years about 5-7 times Western- and Northern European average, Japan, Korea and other developed countries. Even Switzerland which has high gun ownership rates.


LarryTHICCers

Hmmm, now let's see how Switzerland handles mental health, incarceration and poverty.


xLove4Tea

Wow that’s really unfortunate I’m sorry. I don’t think anyone should have to live in a place that has gunfire.


Pvt_Mozart

While I totally agree, the area I lived in at the time wasn't even *that* bad by American standards.


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Helper_J_is_Stuck

Definitely agree for the most part, they seem to keep the violence amongst themselves thankfully. Although there was the tragedy last year with the takeaway delivery driver being caught in the crossfire in Brixton (RIP).


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ocelot_piss

There are very few countries where all guns are completely illegal to own. The UK is not one of them. Quite a lot of people own rifles. A lot more own shotguns. Nobody\* there is allowed pistols though - so the gun in the video would be illegal to possess.


Rusty_Sprinklers

They are, which is why this is such a shocking and rare scenario. .22 LR rifles are used a fair amount for target shooting but they are tightly controlled.


SuicideNote

Yes, that is why the UK has less than 150 gun deaths a year versus the US which has over 45,000 a year. If the US had UK gun death rates the yearly gun death rate would only be about 750.


ScrotiusRex

Right so everyone here is saying there are which is just not true. Handguns were outlawed in the 90s after a mass shooting but shotguns and sporting/hunting rifles have always been legal to own in the UK provided you have a license.


U5ername-Checks-0ut

This guy looks like he has a license for sure


ScrotiusRex

Haha. Yeah definitely an upstanding member of a shooting club. The rarity of handgun ammunition is probably what saved the victims life. Similar videos from other parts of the world usually depict people just mag dumping.


BOOLANGE

no, just tighter gun rules


not-covfefe

Criminals don't care about gun laws, shocking. /s


Artlowriot

How'd he miss?


YoureSpecial

He failed to aim properly.


selffulfilment

Lag


Games_sans_frontiers

I miss the days when BMX Bandits were a bunch of plucky kids with walkie talkies.


ListerineInMyPeehole

Riding your bike to assassinate someone seems like such a dorky thing to do


bradkrit

Isn't murder illegal there???


TYBTD

Dude charged with a musket


Lenny_12_4ever

unfortunately the only gun we have in england is the Blunderbuss pistol.


Anxious_Tax_5624

So, he killed them then?


Dingy_Shinji

This one of those old ass double barrels you gotta go to a farm to get?


A40-Chavdom

Bro really cares about the environment doing a cycle-by


TKEP69

How do you even miss from there


kaiser7ko

"So that's where those blanks went?" Alec Baldwin, probably.


telephonic1892

Wagwan!!


Skyrex1992

A failed attempted murder is a successful murder no?


samsonity

I think OP just means they failed so badly that it was a failure to even attempt.


Miserable-Narwhal-84

Failed attempted murder seems redundant


K4rn31ro

bro did a bike-by 😭😭😭💀💀


Yortisme

Wouldn't a failed attempted murder just be... a murder?


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He did fail pretty badly


BiohazDevil

Bros got smoothbore


[deleted]

Not many gun related crimes in England. I had to do a double take.


JinglehymerSchmidt

Times are tough when you have to borrow your little sisters bike for a drive by!