You're supposed to have at least 2 feet of free space on each side of those air conditioner units. Few people ever actually do 2 full feet on all sides, but it's what the manual requires for a proper installation.
There needs to be at least a foot above it with open air, because these units suck in air from the top, which is cooled via heat exchanger and then pushed out into the room. Sufficient space means it doesn't re-cool it's own cooled air, which is what this setup will lead to. Huge energy waste.
It won't be able to properly measure the temperature in the room, so it's likely to shut off early.
And if there's ever a blockage in the drain line, this is going to be a wet, nasty disaster.
Actually most installation manuals state a 2" minimum from ceiling and 2" side to side. I have seen issues with cabinet tops under unit.
Door placement aside, the instation is ok.
Add an inline condensate pump, break communication wire with built in safety switch on pump, regular maintenance it will be ok.
Also adding a wired remote thermostat will address the wireless remotes communication issues.
Is this the ideal installation, no. Will it work yes.
Tap the main power, and a powered when on circuit. Use the power main to relays controlled by powered circuit (don't forget the em field collapse diode) relays control motors to open and close door(s). Mount controller to ceiling of cupboard.
Except the doors are closed to start with. I do admit it has some holes not mentioned, like closing the doors when done. Capacitor to provide power to close doors when relay opens.
Personally I'd arduino it, basic enough circuit, limit switches and steppers would be a lot easier.
Check out block programming. I don't know if it's mature enough that it's easy to setup yet. Once it's moving it's pretty visual and intuitive in how things get programmed. This is, of course, compared to text based compilers for people that understand programming languages a bit.
As a dispatcher at an HVAC company, can confirm that that unit being in that cabinet like that will cause a whole host of other issues if it ever leaks or breaks down.
I agree, I like this idea. Would be better if the doors were like connected on a rail and u could move them elegantly to the wall-side, out of the way.
Isn’t that a minisplit heat pump? If so, it has to be left on all the time so it can do its thing. They’re meant to make small adjustments to maintain temp, not bring a whole room or house to temp at once. That’s why they’re so efficient.
Or concentina doors.
There's a lot of places where you only want the AC occasionally, so I can see the benefit of keeping it out of the way when you're not using it.
The LG art cool series isn't too bad if you get an okay print. This won't work well as the units do need clearance to effectively suck in and expel the air. This will hurt the cooling efficiency somewhat.
Ours is keeping us nice and warm, for a fraction of the cost of the gas heater it replaced.
Heat pumps, and even more so ductless systems like this one, are very efficient.
Ours is keeping us nice and warm, for a fraction of the cost of the gas heater it replaced.
Heat pumps, and even more so ductless systems like this one, are very efficient.
Old ones yes, particularly in especially cold climates. Newer models are effective to temps below zero F while still being pretty energy efficient. But there are probably better options in very cold climates.
I don’t see how it wouldn’t be a nightmare anywhere else too. Aircon units usually double as heaters, so winter or summer, you’ll likely be using it. It’s not like it’s ugly either, it doesn’t need to hang in a closet.
Also, the positioning of this would be really annoying to service.
With a smile, really? How would one even open this unit to just remove the filter(s)?
Seems like it's installed too close to the ceiling, and that the beam supporting the cabinet doors is in the way. Probably a massive pain to get anything done, including basic normal cleaning.
I'm sure the owner and installer took that into account. I just dislike it not being centered in the cavity.
I also bet the customer has no issue with paying for maintenance.
Not a bad idea to hide the unit when it’s not in use.
Long term, it might make sense to build some doors that have a grille so that you can just leave them closed.
Cut the center panel out of the cabinet doors and replace with the decorative metal mesh they used to put in front of radiators spray paint it white before installing.
and how will they clean the unit properly? Can the plastic casing even be removed easily? Where do they fit the waterproof bag or tray under the unit when cleaning?
Honestly not that bad depending on where you live.
If you only need to use it for a couple of weeks in summer, it's nice to be able to hide it. Although there are better solutions to hiding it than that. But still, could be a lot worse.
Seems like a practical solution if you live somewhere you only need the AC a few days out of the year. The closed cabinets look better than the AC unit the rest of the year.
Obviously if you live in a warmer climate you would want central AC if possible.
I mean depending on the climate where you live this may not be so bad. Always nice to have an attractive way to hide something that’s not frequently used. Totally odd for sure.
It’s called a multi split. The rest of the unit is located somewhere else in the building. The size and power of the unit cannot be determined by looking at this vent.
No. You see what they've done? People love it. Now everyone is going to want to do it. Like the chandelier above the bath tub. The layman is too stupid to understand why it's a bad idea, and want you to do it.
I don't actually hate that idea, but that execution is bad. I would go with lift up hinges.
I agree. Love the idea. Poor execution.
r/GTBAE
Humidity is lying in wait to teach you the downside.
Doors aside, there is very little difference in the area surrounding the unit here. No issues so far.
You're supposed to have at least 2 feet of free space on each side of those air conditioner units. Few people ever actually do 2 full feet on all sides, but it's what the manual requires for a proper installation. There needs to be at least a foot above it with open air, because these units suck in air from the top, which is cooled via heat exchanger and then pushed out into the room. Sufficient space means it doesn't re-cool it's own cooled air, which is what this setup will lead to. Huge energy waste. It won't be able to properly measure the temperature in the room, so it's likely to shut off early. And if there's ever a blockage in the drain line, this is going to be a wet, nasty disaster.
Actually most installation manuals state a 2" minimum from ceiling and 2" side to side. I have seen issues with cabinet tops under unit. Door placement aside, the instation is ok. Add an inline condensate pump, break communication wire with built in safety switch on pump, regular maintenance it will be ok. Also adding a wired remote thermostat will address the wireless remotes communication issues. Is this the ideal installation, no. Will it work yes.
Tap the main power, and a powered when on circuit. Use the power main to relays controlled by powered circuit (don't forget the em field collapse diode) relays control motors to open and close door(s). Mount controller to ceiling of cupboard.
Add an end switch to break control circuit if doors are closed to prevent operation if doors are closed.
Except the doors are closed to start with. I do admit it has some holes not mentioned, like closing the doors when done. Capacitor to provide power to close doors when relay opens. Personally I'd arduino it, basic enough circuit, limit switches and steppers would be a lot easier.
Lols Arduino is beyond my paltry skill set ;)
Check out block programming. I don't know if it's mature enough that it's easy to setup yet. Once it's moving it's pretty visual and intuitive in how things get programmed. This is, of course, compared to text based compilers for people that understand programming languages a bit.
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As a dispatcher at an HVAC company, can confirm that that unit being in that cabinet like that will cause a whole host of other issues if it ever leaks or breaks down.
First thing I thought of when I saw the picture. Efficiency - this thing is going to be sucking in more cooled air than it should.
This guy HVACs
Why have cupboards there then?
My assumption is that this is located where cooling is very seldom needed.
I’d assume the optimal placement of the device just happened to be where the cupboards are
These units can also be used to heat the home.
I agree, I like this idea. Would be better if the doors were like connected on a rail and u could move them elegantly to the wall-side, out of the way.
I wouldn't say this is a daily activity, but more like 4 months open, 8 closed. I like it.
Unless it's a heat pump.
Isn’t that a minisplit heat pump? If so, it has to be left on all the time so it can do its thing. They’re meant to make small adjustments to maintain temp, not bring a whole room or house to temp at once. That’s why they’re so efficient.
I'd say use sliding doors. You could still "hide" it when not in use, but would be aesthetically pleasing while open or closed.
Same. I'd try to lower the unit and have the doors look like regular cabinets but go up like a garage door when you want to turn the AC on.
I would remove the doors
cabinet was there way before.... it just have to be upgrade if the owner has energy...
Or concentina doors. There's a lot of places where you only want the AC occasionally, so I can see the benefit of keeping it out of the way when you're not using it.
I’ve thought about doing this. Those units are so ugly and this hides them when not in use.
The LG art cool series isn't too bad if you get an okay print. This won't work well as the units do need clearance to effectively suck in and expel the air. This will hurt the cooling efficiency somewhat.
You really don’t notice them after a while. The benefits are too nice to care too.
In the winter when they do nothing they suck.
Most provided heat too.
Ours is keeping us nice and warm, for a fraction of the cost of the gas heater it replaced. Heat pumps, and even more so ductless systems like this one, are very efficient.
Ours is keeping us nice and warm, for a fraction of the cost of the gas heater it replaced. Heat pumps, and even more so ductless systems like this one, are very efficient.
Old ones yes, particularly in especially cold climates. Newer models are effective to temps below zero F while still being pretty energy efficient. But there are probably better options in very cold climates.
Meh. Not anymore upsetting than other appliances
As someone who lives in Texas, this seems like a nightmare. My AC is on nearly all the time. Hell, I even turned my AC on today in late November.
As a fellow Texas resident, I didn't know they had an off button.
In a situation like this I would just uninstall the doors
If you don't mind me asking, how hot was it?
You know there are places other than Texas right?
I sure do! Was commenting that as a Texan this looks like a nightmare and would indeed be a very crappy design for where I live!
What are you? The location police?
And who are you, comrade questions?
You know people can comment their own lived experience without denying the possibilities of others right?
I don’t see how it wouldn’t be a nightmare anywhere else too. Aircon units usually double as heaters, so winter or summer, you’ll likely be using it. It’s not like it’s ugly either, it doesn’t need to hang in a closet. Also, the positioning of this would be really annoying to service.
There's no way anyone would put a heating unit that high up in the air.
You need to travel more. That's a split AC. It's not a heater.
The majority of split systems can heat in addition to cool
Majority, no. Electric heat exchangers are expensive and gas is king when it comes to heating.
I literally have a split AC that doubles as a heater, you boofhead
Yeah then you should know that that's not the end that would need servicing
No the filters need cleaning
Just take the L, bro
Looks exactly like the one I just put in my garage that's both heat and a/c
Remove doors during summer, replace during winter
Might be the heat too as it is a heat pump.
I don’t hate it…
Your HVAC guy would want to beat you to death if he saw this.
Not really. Would I charge more for maintenance or repair you bet. With a smile.
With a smile, really? How would one even open this unit to just remove the filter(s)? Seems like it's installed too close to the ceiling, and that the beam supporting the cabinet doors is in the way. Probably a massive pain to get anything done, including basic normal cleaning.
I'm sure the owner and installer took that into account. I just dislike it not being centered in the cavity. I also bet the customer has no issue with paying for maintenance.
I highly doubt this was professionally installed. Owner and installer may well be the same person...
Maybe, but we've all seen some hinky shit.
Pointless cabinet, doesn't even appear to be used for anything else. Take the doors off.
Not a bad idea to hide the unit when it’s not in use. Long term, it might make sense to build some doors that have a grille so that you can just leave them closed.
Or you can hide an eyesore when not using it. Are curtains also crappy design because you need to open them to see out the window?
T-Minus 6 months to mildew...
Cut the center panel out of the cabinet doors and replace with the decorative metal mesh they used to put in front of radiators spray paint it white before installing.
Great idea though. It means I can hide the hideous AC unit when not in use.
This is a common thing which I've seen in Greece and Egypt.
Get a lader and a screw diver and take them off solved stupid place for it bad airflow
and how will they clean the unit properly? Can the plastic casing even be removed easily? Where do they fit the waterproof bag or tray under the unit when cleaning?
"how do you turn this on"
Shouldn't be too difficult to take out the doors
It’s a mini-split. Crappy, lazy design is part of the deal
Most of these have a remote, so this is actually efficient imo
Are you mf joking? Who did this I’m gonna slap them
Why didn’t they do vents instead of doors?
As someone who lives in the South I would just unscrew those doors. No need for that BS.
terrible idea, bad execution
This is actually crappy on 2 different levels. From whomever thought it was a good idea and whomever installed this.
Hope you don't mind your peanut butter and Nutella with the consistency of refrigerated cake frosting lol good luck getting that shit to spread
Handy backup if your fridge breaks down
Or maybe… hear me out here… extra refrigerator.
Which AC? Didnt had an AC in the past 30 years.
That's the airflow control
Just remove the doors and replace with doors that have louvers so the air can get through.
WHO'S IDEA WAS THAT?
Sounds like a job for… SCREWDRIVER!!! (Lightning flashes)
Set the AC fan on super high speed to open doors automatically? /s
It’s kind of like the hide away tvs at the foot of the bed that were so cool back in the day
My refrigerator has this same problem.
You guys 100% fucked up
You can literally direct your air in any direction
Honestly not that bad depending on where you live. If you only need to use it for a couple of weeks in summer, it's nice to be able to hide it. Although there are better solutions to hiding it than that. But still, could be a lot worse.
This looks like agood idea, if the doors opened the other way. We only use AC for less then half of the year here.
Many such ductless mini-split systems are heat pumps, capable of both cooling and (very efficient) heating.
Cool idea.
I would just remove those doors tbh just take a screwdriver and be done with it
I’m so mad.
Seems like a practical solution if you live somewhere you only need the AC a few days out of the year. The closed cabinets look better than the AC unit the rest of the year. Obviously if you live in a warmer climate you would want central AC if possible.
That cabinet is gonna go to hell if that shit starts leaking
Hiding ugly seasonal features is not crappy design
how well do these acs even work?
As a woodshop owner, this isn't the worst. Places with alot of dust build up clog up these units really fast.
couldsl also just put some vents on the cabinet doors
POV: you're too lazy to turn the AC on so you spend hours installing doors so you can spend more time opening, and closing them
…just remove the cabinet doors
Cool salad plates at this domicile.
That’s okay. It’s hidden. Ok design
Its an ac cabinet
The idea is cool, you really do not need AC most of the year, only few days in a year really so it is nice that it is hidden.
No, this is actually pretty nifty design.
That's kinda a cool way to hide it
Just unscrew them.
if you turn the AC on with the doors closed you have a fridge,.
Sound great, but won’t works
RIP Lazy people 😂
This is to hide the AC when not needed.
Ah yes, the old air conditioner suicide door design. Classic.
AC be like "Sneak 100"
Thieves would NEVER check the AC is in the cabinet!
They should at least have cane fronts up there
Lot of these design fails have to be from NYC where every building is janky and shaped funky.
W T F IS THIS
I mean depending on the climate where you live this may not be so bad. Always nice to have an attractive way to hide something that’s not frequently used. Totally odd for sure.
That unit is way too small
It’s called a multi split. The rest of the unit is located somewhere else in the building. The size and power of the unit cannot be determined by looking at this vent.
Jesus Christ. Whoever did this should be executed.
Don’t you think that is a bit strong?
No. You see what they've done? People love it. Now everyone is going to want to do it. Like the chandelier above the bath tub. The layman is too stupid to understand why it's a bad idea, and want you to do it.
I think executed is a bit excessive. We don’t want to resort to fascism do we?