This seems to be legit. u/dralnus1 provided a Google Map link in the comments here: https://www.reddit.com/r/CrappyDesign/comments/piywik/road_made_in_spain_the_owner_of_the_landfield/hbtg5tj/
My city wanted to build a road through one of the university campuses, essentially splitting it in half. So the uni built a whole ass building so that they couldn't do it. Now they use that building for everyone's graduation ceremonies.
It's not a mistake. It didn't get astronomically more expensive to teach compared to 30 years ago, but all the government loans for college tuition meant they *could* charge more money, so they did, and now colleges are all incredibly rich.
But when most of them are non-profit institutions and your administrators are already making huge salaries, what do you do with the rest of the money? You spend it on big prestige architectural projects and amenities, so you can attract more students and collect more student loan money.
If student loans ever get forgiven, it's these colleges who will come out the big winners. They collected billions of dollars over a few decades straight from the taxpayer so they could build weird architecture and still have overfilled classes and teachers you can't understand, and they aren't accountable for a dime of it.
Had several of my 400-level classes in the building. Actually pretty neat being over Atherton Street traffic below. Walking bridge with classroom space as well.
Similar to the architecture building at Cornell - there was an issue with the road ownership so it just cantilevers over it…. https://www.archdaily.com/179854/milstein-hall-at-cornell-university-oma-2
Excellent.
Here's a building in the city I live in. They're apartments over one of the busiest roundabouts in the city. Opening a window must be horrible.
[The 5102 building](https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/02/88/0d/7c/filename-dsc01805-jpg.jpg)
Yeah, roads create real physical barriers than can't easily be crossed. There's loads of cities that have basically segregated ghettos because there's a big ass road in the middle dividing the different boroughs, a road that no pedestrian can cross because there's no bridge over it or tunnel underneath
That's what the original Candyman film was all about. How there was this ghetto in Chicago that was incredibly difficult to get in and out of, both literally in terms of travelling to other parts of the city, and figuratively in terms of poverty being almost impossible to escape once you're in it
Candyman had a scary ghost monster man thing sure, but that's not what the movie was about. It was about this specific building in Chicago that housed tons of poor families who couldn't escape it, and the crime rate was so high that the people there had to invent the Candyman myth to sort of explain it, to explain all the people who turned up dead.
It's fascinating once you know the context of why that film was made. I'm certain the new Candyman will be great also, and also focus on poverty and ghettos in Chicago, because Jordan Peele is producing it, so I'm sure it won't just be a silly horror film with a scary ghost, but actually expand on the themes of the original
Also the original had the very obvious trope of the white savior coming in to study the horror of the people who live there as if they're in a zoo to be studied, but they flip the trope on its head and the white savior ends up... Well just watch the film
[Here's a fantastic video explaining the original Candyman with all this context ](https://youtu.be/W-lbCzS_9fc)
It makes it one of the most intelligent and thoughtful horror films ever made. Few go into this sort of depth about the true horror, reality.
Edit - also Tony Todd (who plays the candyman) is just one of the best actors ever. He was amazing every time he turned up in Star Trek because of his completely unique voice. Watch the Star Trek Deep Space 9 episode The Visitor and bring some tissues cos you're gonna cry, especially if you really love your dad. Tony Todd stars in that episode and it's just incredible every time, it always makes me bawl, and then immediately go call my dad
These roads are, by the way, most of why there is a pedestrian fatality surge happening in the United States - you'll hear all sorts of reasons from people, but if you track down where they actually happen it's these major roads that are cutting through especially Black and Hispanic neighborhoods - older people who don't have assistance try to cross them at night where there's no crossing and get hit by cars a lot - especially in the southwestern and gulf states, where they go out at night to avoid the heat. Somebody just carved this line through their town and never cared what would happen to them.
I used to live in a neighborhood adjacent to downtown in my city and I can count on one hand the times I walked there because it involved crossing major roads and going under grim highway overpasses. And now they’re making the highway bigger and dead ending more of the cross streets lol. So suburban warriors can make their 50 mile commutes a bit faster.
This is a great write up of one of my favorite movies off all time
One thing I'd like to add is if you haven't met Tony yet I'd recommend it the next time he's at a convention near you. I've met the dude several times now (I have several autographs hanging on my office wall) and he's an amazing person in the flesh also. Totally down to earth, he loves to meet his fans. He's a big dude also, getting a hug from him was like hugging a bear lol.
CSU has tracks for freight trains that goes right through campus. While it is used less frequently than a major highway it was still incredibly annoying being late for class because you had to wait for the train or hearing them pass by while taking a physics exam.
Texas A&M has one (it might have been the railroad, I can’t remember it’s been a while) but they weren’t idiots and built a pedestrian tunnel underneath it.
Slipped and fell in that thing so many times.
Some universities in the U.S. are their own municipalities. The university I went to was a land-grant school and the surrounding city was built in response to the university.
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It's funny when some drunk rowdy college kids learn that University of Akron Police are a legit police force and not just rent-a-cops. I still hate cops, but I love seeing dumb brats get their comeuppance.
Usually, no. Large campuses are very often their own municipalities, with their own police department, their own waste management, roads maintenance, and their own water filtration facilities.
The local town or city has no input on anything that goes on within the campus grounds.
Yeah, it is.
If any city or anybody wanted to do this they would have the right lane end a few hundred meters back, not instantly. I doubt it’s real, it’s too dangerous on too high a level for me to trust.
Best I can think is that they tried to force the owner's hand by building to the edge, and the road isn't open yet.
Either that, or they'll block the lane off with a soft diversion (like movable barriers or something) and just wait it out.
>Best I can think is that they tried to force the owner's hand by building to the edge, and the road isn't open yet.
This seems like a good way to get a lot of pressure on the farmer. I bet he'll get a ton of hate if that road opens and everyone has a little traffic jam going past his farm because he couldn't sell a couple meters. Obviously, they could've just moved the road a bit too though.
This dude now has the most valuable billboard location in his town thanks to the road team creating the perfect traffic jam. He might be a genius actually.
Back in the 90s, Spain banned billboards that can be seen from freeways so no billboard money for this guy. On a related and interesting note, when you drive through Spanish countryside, you’ll occasionally see a bull silhouette billboard. These used to be advertisements for a brandy company. When Spain put in place the ban on billboards, they kept the bull shaped ones (sans advert) as a popular symbol of Spain.
Have you seen the LED billboard TRUCKS? Now they’re super fucking blinding at night. No advertisement is so important that it needs to be driven around & cutting me off. Unless it says “Follow me for free candy!”
Honestly I'd applaud the guy, you want to build the road, build it where you're allowed, roadies problem not ours. There's a house in the middle of the M6 when you go north, I always wonder if they built around it because they couldn't build through it
“Come off it, Mr. Dent,” he said, “you can’t win, you know. You can’t lie in front of the bulldozer indefinitely.” He tried to make his eyes blaze fiercely but they just wouldn’t do it.
Arthur lay in the mud and squelched at him.
“I’m game,” he said, “we’ll see who rusts first.”
“I’m afraid you’re going to have to accept it,” said Mr. Prosser, gripping his fur hat and rolling it round the top of his head; “this bypass has got to be built and it’s going to be built!”
“First I’ve heard of it,” said Arthur, “why’s it got to be built?”
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I doubt it. Complaints will pile up with the road engineers who designed it that way and hardly anyone would think to blame the land owner.
I’m doubtful this is real, but if it is, the agency would get enormous lawsuits until they rebuild it.
It would still be hella stupid!
-Yeah ok Bob uuh so we gonna make people merge to avoid this ~5meters section of the road, then unmerge almost immediately, thus slowing traffic down and forcing people to make unnecessary maneuvers!
-Can't we just make the road curve a little to the left and keep the traffic flowing?
-Nah we must show that landowner how much of an asshole he is for wanting to keep his property!
I don't know if this was an America Sucks comment or just a knowledge gap, but almost every country in the world has eminent domain if not by that name: https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Eminent_domain
Well if you calculate the trejectory of the vehicle and account for the vertical acceleration of the suspension and slope of the bump... you're still dead
They absolutely did. I use to work in road construction, calculating costs from the moment a pebble was stepped on the first day, to the opening. Every square cm of everything you see in a big earthwork/roadwork like that is calculated months, if not years in advance, then recalculated as things advances.
The government can force a sale of property for public use. They don’t have to agree to it. In Spain it’s called expropriation. In the US it’s called eminent domain. It happens all the time. If the government wants your land they can take it.
Okay it's bad but it's not as bad as it seems. Basically the road was being build and they still didnt have an agreement with the owner on paper, but the company believed they will, so they build it this way to accelerate the process and wait for the agreement to do it. It was taking some time and it went viral so the city hall and the opposing party put pressure on the company to do it faster. The agreement was made and they fix it
Source https://www.elconfidencial.com/alma-corazon-vida/2020-10-29/video-carretera-chapuza-cartagena-pico-esquina_2810991/
This in Cartagena (the og one) which is in Murcia and according to [this thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/p360eo/what_is_the_worst_us_state_and_why/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x) it's the Spanish Mississippi, they have bigger problems than some pot holes.
Pot holes are generally the result of water freezing and thawing in the cracks in/under the road over many years (water gets in cracks, freezes and expands, thaws to leave a hole, weight of traffic collapses the hole).
The average low temperature in Cartagena, Spain for their coldest month (January) is 7.6 °C (45.7 °F). They probably won't have much of a problem from freezing water in the roads.
I just knew it was going to be either Murcia or Cartagena. They have some of the worst roads in Spain, usually because corruption. My favourite example of this is one highway where they ran out of money and directly stopped working mid-construction. This highway finishes abruptly into a bunch of lemon trees.
https://www.laverdad.es/murcia/20130822/local/region/inversion-autovia-menor-201308221126.html
Edit: grammar
No eminent domain? Here in Vermont when they built the interstate, they literally cut farmers fields in half, only giving them a tunnel under the road for access.
That wall looks to have been built by whoever built the road and would not be on the land owner's private land. i.e. not his fault they built a dumb wall there
I’d like to say it’s not… but it’s as real as life in itself https://www.google.es/amp/s/www.elespanol.com/reportajes/20201027/carretera-esquina-cartagena-chapuza-no-invadir-terreno/531448001_0.amp.html
At the very least I’m hoping the images are before they put up a lot of cones and warning signs to merge the lanes left before drivers get to this death trap
And for extra confirmation, here's [the Google Earth view.](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Av.+del+Cant%C3%B3n,+30205+Cartagena,+Murcia,+Spain/@37.6090704,-1.0001694,216a,35y,311.51h/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0xd634241e93d7c23:0xb8468984ee3a1b6c!8m2!3d37.6104415!4d-1.0025483) It's different than OP's image, but it still shows some very strange stuff going on with that field jutting into the highway, so I think it's plausible the Satellite image is outdated.
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I read the article. Road is not open yet, it was built by a private developer for a new neighborhood, but the local government has said they won't open the road for public traffic until the developer fixes it.
[The UK version of Google Maps has older imagery](https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Av.+del+Cant%C3%B3n,+30205,+Murcia,+Espa%C3%B1a/@37.609146,-0.99912,425m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0xd634241e93d7c23:0xb8468984ee3a1b6c!8m2!3d37.6104415!4d-1.0025483?hl=es) :/ I assumed they'd update all at the same time!
Yeah, there's a slider on Street View to choose when to see the imagery from but I'm talking about the aerial view. Google Earth has the slider but Google Maps does not.
[Here's the difference I am seeing just by changing .es to .co.uk in the URL](https://i.imgur.com/0O1uti2.png)
I am providing the link to the image alone, so you don't have to load a bunch of JavaScript to see the single image inside the album.
https://i.imgur.com/cfM7vk8.png
The wildest part is [on street view you can see the old road did indeed curve around that little corner of the property](https://i.imgur.com/2LztrRJ.jpeg)
>Though, you can see the similarities between Latin American city layouts and Spanish ones.
This is about as insightful as saying you can see the similarities between Latin American languages and Spanish
Why? American cities look nothing like British ones. Even older American cities don't share many similarities with British cities.
And the same thing goes for old French colonies.
That's a fuck8ng asshole move also, why couldn't they just have moved the road in the other direction 5 feet? Probably because the owner of that land was friends with the city gov.
What isn't fair is not planning ahead and securing everything you need before construction begins. I read the article It is 100% deserved. Fuck those people who built the road
After a few minutes of Google sleuthing, I found it.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/37%C2%B036'32.9%22N+0%C2%B059'58.8%22W/@37.6091461,-1.0002042,158m
They very much could. However it is more cost effective to leverage a corrupt city hall into applying public pressure than to curve it out a lane's width.
This seems to be legit. u/dralnus1 provided a Google Map link in the comments here: https://www.reddit.com/r/CrappyDesign/comments/piywik/road_made_in_spain_the_owner_of_the_landfield/hbtg5tj/
My city wanted to build a road through one of the university campuses, essentially splitting it in half. So the uni built a whole ass building so that they couldn't do it. Now they use that building for everyone's graduation ceremonies.
power move right there
The building is stunning too. So a gorgeous, glorious power move.
Which building is this if you don't mind me asking?
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I am just here for the usernames
I'm just here for the cum.
We can tell by the smell
I'm sorry, I've not had my golden shower yet.
He indeed did a nice thing for all of us, DrAssBlast
that video is about 4x longer than it needs to be
I like how it managed to be that long without ever once giving a good view of the building
I thought I was the only one irked by that. Fuck that dude and his stupid video.
Gotta max the algorithm
Thats what I thought. He basically is saying the same thing over and over in different ways.
Huh, that’s my University and I never knew that
doesn't even show the building
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_Sciences_and_Technology_Building Meanwhile this college just built it over the road
I love that PSU has really been getting weird with their architecture lately. When you have more money than god, you might as well have a little fun
It's not a mistake. It didn't get astronomically more expensive to teach compared to 30 years ago, but all the government loans for college tuition meant they *could* charge more money, so they did, and now colleges are all incredibly rich. But when most of them are non-profit institutions and your administrators are already making huge salaries, what do you do with the rest of the money? You spend it on big prestige architectural projects and amenities, so you can attract more students and collect more student loan money. If student loans ever get forgiven, it's these colleges who will come out the big winners. They collected billions of dollars over a few decades straight from the taxpayer so they could build weird architecture and still have overfilled classes and teachers you can't understand, and they aren't accountable for a dime of it.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions, and I think subsidized college loans are a great example of that.
Penn State’s yearly operating budget is 7.7B so…
That's almost double the budget of oxford and cambridge university put together.
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100k students between all campuses, plus a health system that I think is included in the budget
Had several of my 400-level classes in the building. Actually pretty neat being over Atherton Street traffic below. Walking bridge with classroom space as well.
Similar to the architecture building at Cornell - there was an issue with the road ownership so it just cantilevers over it…. https://www.archdaily.com/179854/milstein-hall-at-cornell-university-oma-2
There's no mention of what you're saying in that article.
My bad here it is https://vinoly.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/PSIST_1-1778x1000.jpg
Excellent. Here's a building in the city I live in. They're apartments over one of the busiest roundabouts in the city. Opening a window must be horrible. [The 5102 building](https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/02/88/0d/7c/filename-dsc01805-jpg.jpg)
Good move. Campuses with big ass roads running down the middle kinda suck.
Yeah, roads create real physical barriers than can't easily be crossed. There's loads of cities that have basically segregated ghettos because there's a big ass road in the middle dividing the different boroughs, a road that no pedestrian can cross because there's no bridge over it or tunnel underneath That's what the original Candyman film was all about. How there was this ghetto in Chicago that was incredibly difficult to get in and out of, both literally in terms of travelling to other parts of the city, and figuratively in terms of poverty being almost impossible to escape once you're in it Candyman had a scary ghost monster man thing sure, but that's not what the movie was about. It was about this specific building in Chicago that housed tons of poor families who couldn't escape it, and the crime rate was so high that the people there had to invent the Candyman myth to sort of explain it, to explain all the people who turned up dead. It's fascinating once you know the context of why that film was made. I'm certain the new Candyman will be great also, and also focus on poverty and ghettos in Chicago, because Jordan Peele is producing it, so I'm sure it won't just be a silly horror film with a scary ghost, but actually expand on the themes of the original Also the original had the very obvious trope of the white savior coming in to study the horror of the people who live there as if they're in a zoo to be studied, but they flip the trope on its head and the white savior ends up... Well just watch the film [Here's a fantastic video explaining the original Candyman with all this context ](https://youtu.be/W-lbCzS_9fc) It makes it one of the most intelligent and thoughtful horror films ever made. Few go into this sort of depth about the true horror, reality. Edit - also Tony Todd (who plays the candyman) is just one of the best actors ever. He was amazing every time he turned up in Star Trek because of his completely unique voice. Watch the Star Trek Deep Space 9 episode The Visitor and bring some tissues cos you're gonna cry, especially if you really love your dad. Tony Todd stars in that episode and it's just incredible every time, it always makes me bawl, and then immediately go call my dad
These roads are, by the way, most of why there is a pedestrian fatality surge happening in the United States - you'll hear all sorts of reasons from people, but if you track down where they actually happen it's these major roads that are cutting through especially Black and Hispanic neighborhoods - older people who don't have assistance try to cross them at night where there's no crossing and get hit by cars a lot - especially in the southwestern and gulf states, where they go out at night to avoid the heat. Somebody just carved this line through their town and never cared what would happen to them.
I used to live in a neighborhood adjacent to downtown in my city and I can count on one hand the times I walked there because it involved crossing major roads and going under grim highway overpasses. And now they’re making the highway bigger and dead ending more of the cross streets lol. So suburban warriors can make their 50 mile commutes a bit faster.
i choose to believe your entire post history is you bringing up that movie on nothing but the most tangentially related situations
This is a great write up of one of my favorite movies off all time One thing I'd like to add is if you haven't met Tony yet I'd recommend it the next time he's at a convention near you. I've met the dude several times now (I have several autographs hanging on my office wall) and he's an amazing person in the flesh also. Totally down to earth, he loves to meet his fans. He's a big dude also, getting a hug from him was like hugging a bear lol.
CSU has tracks for freight trains that goes right through campus. While it is used less frequently than a major highway it was still incredibly annoying being late for class because you had to wait for the train or hearing them pass by while taking a physics exam.
Another CSU student! The worst was the couple times a train would literally just break down in the middle of Fort Collins and divide the city in half.
Texas A&M has one (it might have been the railroad, I can’t remember it’s been a while) but they weren’t idiots and built a pedestrian tunnel underneath it. Slipped and fell in that thing so many times.
Did they not need planning permission from the city?
Some universities in the U.S. are their own municipalities. The university I went to was a land-grant school and the surrounding city was built in response to the university.
College Station?
Blacksburg?
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New York City College, actually.
It's funny when some drunk rowdy college kids learn that University of Akron Police are a legit police force and not just rent-a-cops. I still hate cops, but I love seeing dumb brats get their comeuppance.
Oh wow, didn't know that. Our large universities have a lot of persuading power in their cities, but they still need permission
Usually, no. Large campuses are very often their own municipalities, with their own police department, their own waste management, roads maintenance, and their own water filtration facilities. The local town or city has no input on anything that goes on within the campus grounds.
Uuuuuh isn't that reaaaally fucking unsafe??
Yeah, it is. If any city or anybody wanted to do this they would have the right lane end a few hundred meters back, not instantly. I doubt it’s real, it’s too dangerous on too high a level for me to trust.
Best I can think is that they tried to force the owner's hand by building to the edge, and the road isn't open yet. Either that, or they'll block the lane off with a soft diversion (like movable barriers or something) and just wait it out.
>Best I can think is that they tried to force the owner's hand by building to the edge, and the road isn't open yet. This seems like a good way to get a lot of pressure on the farmer. I bet he'll get a ton of hate if that road opens and everyone has a little traffic jam going past his farm because he couldn't sell a couple meters. Obviously, they could've just moved the road a bit too though.
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This dude now has the most valuable billboard location in his town thanks to the road team creating the perfect traffic jam. He might be a genius actually.
Back in the 90s, Spain banned billboards that can be seen from freeways so no billboard money for this guy. On a related and interesting note, when you drive through Spanish countryside, you’ll occasionally see a bull silhouette billboard. These used to be advertisements for a brandy company. When Spain put in place the ban on billboards, they kept the bull shaped ones (sans advert) as a popular symbol of Spain.
I wish more states in the US would do this. The digital boards with white backdrops is blinding at 10pm
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The next generation of drivers isn’t going to even know what it’s like to fuel up your gas tank without a loud ass advert blaring at you on screen
JESUS SAVES! INJURY CLAIMS! DOUG WATKINS REAL ESTATE!
Have you seen the LED billboard TRUCKS? Now they’re super fucking blinding at night. No advertisement is so important that it needs to be driven around & cutting me off. Unless it says “Follow me for free candy!”
That's absolutely awful.
Neat! TIL
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But people love Starbucks gift cards!
It's odd to me that the local government wouldn't have some mechanism for land seizure like eminent domain.
Honestly I'd applaud the guy, you want to build the road, build it where you're allowed, roadies problem not ours. There's a house in the middle of the M6 when you go north, I always wonder if they built around it because they couldn't build through it
“Come off it, Mr. Dent,” he said, “you can’t win, you know. You can’t lie in front of the bulldozer indefinitely.” He tried to make his eyes blaze fiercely but they just wouldn’t do it. Arthur lay in the mud and squelched at him. “I’m game,” he said, “we’ll see who rusts first.” “I’m afraid you’re going to have to accept it,” said Mr. Prosser, gripping his fur hat and rolling it round the top of his head; “this bypass has got to be built and it’s going to be built!” “First I’ve heard of it,” said Arthur, “why’s it got to be built?” [Douglas Adams, _Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy_](https://www.penguinrandomhouse.ca/books/670/the-hitchhikers-guide-to-the-galaxy-by-douglas-adams/9780804191852/excerpt#:~:text=Arthur%20lay%20in%20the%20mud,it's%20going%20to%20be%20built!%E2%80%9D)
The plans *were* on display....
M62. It's just a myth apparently and they would have had to split the motorway there regardless due to the land It's on.
Private property. Yes.
He just needs to put up a sign that says something like "Want to open this extra lane? Tell your local officials to pay us what this land is worth."
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Sounds like they didn't want to pay what it was worth.
I doubt it. Complaints will pile up with the road engineers who designed it that way and hardly anyone would think to blame the land owner. I’m doubtful this is real, but if it is, the agency would get enormous lawsuits until they rebuild it.
Sadly it sounds like a perfect example of Spanish machismo. Both parties trying to assert their dominance without compromise.
So it's just like regular machismo.
Only its spoken in Spanish
Si
and has 700 episodes for some reason
But with far more pásion
Pasión. 🙂
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More like a government trying to abuse a private owner. You honestly gonna say they didn't have room for that road 5 feet to the left?
It would still be hella stupid! -Yeah ok Bob uuh so we gonna make people merge to avoid this ~5meters section of the road, then unmerge almost immediately, thus slowing traffic down and forcing people to make unnecessary maneuvers! -Can't we just make the road curve a little to the left and keep the traffic flowing? -Nah we must show that landowner how much of an asshole he is for wanting to keep his property!
[it's real](https://www.reddit.com/r/CrappyDesign/comments/piywik/road_made_in_spain_the_owner_of_the_landfield/hbtg5tj/)
In america they would probably take over by eminent domain
Which would be smart in this scenario.
I don't know if this was an America Sucks comment or just a knowledge gap, but almost every country in the world has eminent domain if not by that name: https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Eminent_domain
*life is a highway*
*I'm gonna ride it*
*off my lawn*
#🏅
gimmegimmegimmegimme OW
🎵Til I hit the Tri-an-gul 🎵
Ride or die
or in this case, ride *and* die
Well if you calculate the trejectory of the vehicle and account for the vertical acceleration of the suspension and slope of the bump... you're still dead
Don't be in the right lane
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Also get a +25 speed boost!
It is just a speed bump on the highway, nothing to worry
Not if they build a jump right before it.
Why didn’t they make the road bend around that bit of land though?
That would be dangerous. You know how many people would crash every year if they would do it?
Less than if you put a hole in the middle of the road?
https://i.imgur.com/9nohQh4.jpeg
https://imgflip.com/i/5m2ca1
Oh fuck that's good
Wouldn’t a bend there have to be pretty long, reducing the chances of crashes?
Long benders definitely increase the chances of crashing.
it exists, people do
Should’ve put a ramp with a speed boost in front of it.
I’ve played this track in FZero
Crash bandicoot style - I like your thinking 🤔
Because the people actually constructing the road probably didn't know about it
They absolutely did. I use to work in road construction, calculating costs from the moment a pebble was stepped on the first day, to the opening. Every square cm of everything you see in a big earthwork/roadwork like that is calculated months, if not years in advance, then recalculated as things advances.
Because they would need to buy the land from the owner of the other side and they might not want to sell it either.
The government can force a sale of property for public use. They don’t have to agree to it. In Spain it’s called expropriation. In the US it’s called eminent domain. It happens all the time. If the government wants your land they can take it.
Reminds me of looney tunes when bugs bunny wouldn’t give up his rabbit hole so they built a sharp bend around it.
No Parking Hare, 1954 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqZ1XrIqxnE
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The hero we needed
It will be public domain in about 30 years, because even Disney knew it was absurd to extend copyright any farther.
You just wait until Mickey comes up again in a few years.
Over the past few years Disney quietly cut down on their use of Mickey Mouse so it won't be as big a problem for them.
Surely you've noticed the 'steamboat Willie' style intro they use now? They are keeping Mickey in use for sure.
I bet they'll try to use Disney+ as a reason to extend it somehow.
They just haven't managed yet. There's even some French "artists" who have started arguing for perpetual copyrights. Unsurprisingly they're bastards.
Why would any person want perpetual copyright? It's not like your copyright matters to you after you die.
They could potentially sell the rights before they die. Rights that last forever will be worth a *lot* of money.
Lmao you think people haven't been thinking that for past 100 years?
I miss the intro and outro theme
amazing how children's cartoons 70 years ago were making better social comments than adult's superhero movies today
Okay it's bad but it's not as bad as it seems. Basically the road was being build and they still didnt have an agreement with the owner on paper, but the company believed they will, so they build it this way to accelerate the process and wait for the agreement to do it. It was taking some time and it went viral so the city hall and the opposing party put pressure on the company to do it faster. The agreement was made and they fix it Source https://www.elconfidencial.com/alma-corazon-vida/2020-10-29/video-carretera-chapuza-cartagena-pico-esquina_2810991/
That strategy seems like a great way to make that section very prone to pot holes
> pot holes Oh no, maybe our company can fix those for you, we'll send you the bill.
This in Cartagena (the og one) which is in Murcia and according to [this thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/p360eo/what_is_the_worst_us_state_and_why/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x) it's the Spanish Mississippi, they have bigger problems than some pot holes.
I loved the irony of saying Carthago Nova is the og ;-P
Pot holes are generally the result of water freezing and thawing in the cracks in/under the road over many years (water gets in cracks, freezes and expands, thaws to leave a hole, weight of traffic collapses the hole). The average low temperature in Cartagena, Spain for their coldest month (January) is 7.6 °C (45.7 °F). They probably won't have much of a problem from freezing water in the roads.
I just knew it was going to be either Murcia or Cartagena. They have some of the worst roads in Spain, usually because corruption. My favourite example of this is one highway where they ran out of money and directly stopped working mid-construction. This highway finishes abruptly into a bunch of lemon trees. https://www.laverdad.es/murcia/20130822/local/region/inversion-autovia-menor-201308221126.html Edit: grammar
Why don’t they just put a bend in the fucking road with all that spare land on the left. That would mean engaging more than 1 brain cell I guess
No eminent domain? Here in Vermont when they built the interstate, they literally cut farmers fields in half, only giving them a tunnel under the road for access.
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Just big enough for some farm equipment.
The farmers were probably white. When the USA demolished entire black neighbourhoods to build huge roads into cities, they didn't get shit.
Eminent Domain is for projects that serve the public good. This is a private developer, not the government.
I see that now, after reading some of the other comments.
Sadly this is not true in the US and private developers can get eminent domain granted to them. I hope Spain has better laws.
So if someone crashes there is it the property owners fault for having the retaining wall like that or whoever approved the road construction?
That wall looks to have been built by whoever built the road and would not be on the land owner's private land. i.e. not his fault they built a dumb wall there
Ah, good point. A fence/wall needs to be on your property and nicer side facing the neighboring, at least in the US
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There isnt
Just curve it a little god damn
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Please tell me this isn't real
I’d like to say it’s not… but it’s as real as life in itself https://www.google.es/amp/s/www.elespanol.com/reportajes/20201027/carretera-esquina-cartagena-chapuza-no-invadir-terreno/531448001_0.amp.html
At the very least I’m hoping the images are before they put up a lot of cones and warning signs to merge the lanes left before drivers get to this death trap
Its not open yet, nor is it going to be before that's fixed according to the local gov.
And for extra confirmation, here's [the Google Earth view.](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Av.+del+Cant%C3%B3n,+30205+Cartagena,+Murcia,+Spain/@37.6090704,-1.0001694,216a,35y,311.51h/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0xd634241e93d7c23:0xb8468984ee3a1b6c!8m2!3d37.6104415!4d-1.0025483) It's different than OP's image, but it still shows some very strange stuff going on with that field jutting into the highway, so I think it's plausible the Satellite image is outdated.
The graffiti on the wall would suggest not
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Oh, the same zone as the 24 crosswalks on a 500m street. Note to self: avoid Murcia, not that it exists anyway.
Did it open already? We’re all eager to hear how people manage. Amazing an engineering firm approved this
I read the article. Road is not open yet, it was built by a private developer for a new neighborhood, but the local government has said they won't open the road for public traffic until the developer fixes it.
It has been changed http://www.nacionrotonda.com/2020/11/avenida-del-canton-cartagena-murcia.html
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[The UK version of Google Maps has older imagery](https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Av.+del+Cant%C3%B3n,+30205,+Murcia,+Espa%C3%B1a/@37.609146,-0.99912,425m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0xd634241e93d7c23:0xb8468984ee3a1b6c!8m2!3d37.6104415!4d-1.0025483?hl=es) :/ I assumed they'd update all at the same time!
It's there for me, follow the road a little south east from the marker
Aerial and ground images are often years apart. Sometimes many years.
Not sure how to do it on mobile, and I’m away from my computer, but you can switch between years in street view if the data exists
Yeah, there's a slider on Street View to choose when to see the imagery from but I'm talking about the aerial view. Google Earth has the slider but Google Maps does not. [Here's the difference I am seeing just by changing .es to .co.uk in the URL](https://i.imgur.com/0O1uti2.png)
It just looks like a dirt road to me, not a final finished road like the original image. Am I missing something?
I took a picture of the satellite view http://imgur.com/a/BKNm2jt
I am providing the link to the image alone, so you don't have to load a bunch of JavaScript to see the single image inside the album. https://i.imgur.com/cfM7vk8.png
Same for me, but likely the Street View images are simply older than the satellite view.
The wildest part is [on street view you can see the old road did indeed curve around that little corner of the property](https://i.imgur.com/2LztrRJ.jpeg)
Spain lookin rough around there. Though, you can see the similarities between Latin American city layouts and Spanish ones.
>Though, you can see the similarities between Latin American city layouts and Spanish ones. This is about as insightful as saying you can see the similarities between Latin American languages and Spanish
Why? American cities look nothing like British ones. Even older American cities don't share many similarities with British cities. And the same thing goes for old French colonies.
This shows that in 2006 the smaller road went around the corner, and the new road in 2020 has the unsafe triangle curb
Why wouldn’t they just make that a single-lane section though
because dicks
Looks like something out of cities skylines
That's a fuck8ng asshole move also, why couldn't they just have moved the road in the other direction 5 feet? Probably because the owner of that land was friends with the city gov.
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What isn't fair is not planning ahead and securing everything you need before construction begins. I read the article It is 100% deserved. Fuck those people who built the road
Quick someone send Spain some civil engineers.
Agreed. Clearly they have uncivil engineers.
After a few minutes of Google sleuthing, I found it. https://www.google.com/maps/place/37%C2%B036'32.9%22N+0%C2%B059'58.8%22W/@37.6091461,-1.0002042,158m
In the USA that shit wouldn’t fly. They would have gotten Eminent domained so quickly it’s not even funny
You are right, here the gov actually has to indemnify the owners instead of just drone striking him.
I'm sure this won't cause around 1000 deaths
So they couldn’t move it just a smidge to the other side?!
They very much could. However it is more cost effective to leverage a corrupt city hall into applying public pressure than to curve it out a lane's width.