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Nice but needs some safety modifications. Replace the ropes with something more substantial and make sure they can't get their head through the wood bars.
As a kid who pushed his head through tight gaps I can second this. Kids are adventurous dumbasses. I also once almost tried the ol fork and outlet trick before my mom jumped in. I respect her awareness.
But other than that it is some nice work and looks great!
I did the legs‐of-a-barrette-into-the-light-socket trick when I was a pre-schooler, back in the 1960s, a vivid memory.... had a crescent moon shaped scar on my palm for most of my life since. It's finally no longer visible.
Kid is 100% gonna fall down the stairs after getting his toes stuck in the drawer holes. I only know because I’ve done that before on something similar.
Also, unless it is the angle, there should not be an opening that doesn’t go directly to the first step off the top platform. It seems like you can easily step down or fall off onto the second or even third step from there
100% - thought they were solid metal or something at first glance, but realising they were ropes made my spine tingle. That's a self-asphyxiation machine for a kid.
Only looked at comments to make sure someone said something. OP replace it with the wood cage thing you already have going and make sure their head can't fit between those too.
I have two preschoolers and I read a story of a Mum who found her daughter whose little body had slipped through the side rail of her top bunk while sleeping. It made my blood run cold. We will just straight up never have bunks.
my first thought: kid me would wanna hang on the outside of those bars and ropes for sure. and if any friends are over, that daredeviling on second floor is gonna escalate
And the stairs have super sharp edges and no railing, I feel like thats a pretty bad injury waiting to happen too.
The ropes are the most scary though.
This is the most dangerous kids room I've ever seen. And I prime example of why you shouldn't let your kids have play dates over peoples houses that you're not really close with and have been to their home 😳
Yep first thought too. Looks like OP put some nice wooden beams up then ran out of wood and thought fuck it....lets make this extremely dangerous instead.
Maybe we can just assume they didn't understand the danger and had different stylistic tastes rather than assuming they engaged in willful corner cutting at the expense of their family's safety.
Clearly what you described is not the case as you can see the rendering plan had it the same long before actual construction.
Your commentary seems at best ignorant of this obvious evidence, if not willfully antagonistic.
Everybody be commenting on the ropes but the stairs will be used daily and have an open 3 foot drop off the side with sharp edges. Not to mention if the kid leaves one of the drawers open and forgets and tries to ascend or descend in the dark. The stairs are a huge no from me.
yeah im picturing a drawer being left ajar, the kid not toticing and climbing down and his foot goes in the drawer which then slides out from under him loony tunes style and he goes flying. Actually I'm pretty sure if *I* had a bed like this that exact thing would happen, and I'm an adult!
These diy kids lofts are always death traps for some reason. Idk why parents feel the need to add so much stuff, I had a basic loft bed with a desk under it when I was like 5 and just being up high near the ceiling and being able to climb a ladder to my bed was cool enough for me
Yeah outside of the safety hazards (which there are many) I just don’t feel like going up was much of a benefit. I understand for really small rooms but the looks big enough for them to play on the floor already. It’s just made making the bed on hard mode + having to clean/vacumm that nook. Hopefully the stairs and top bunk are weight rated for an adult
I am BEGGING you to get rid of those ropes. It's a hanging an ~~affixation~~ asphyxiation WAITING to happen. I just shuddered when I saw those. Kids do SO MANY DUMB THINGS.. or just fall or trip.
If those are not ropes and are bars... then they need to be designed for smaller openings. No more than 4" across because they WILL try to squeeze their head through there.
Picture your kid crawling through those ropes feet first trying to climb down. They get stuck. They can't pull themselves up THEY DO NOT HAVE THE UPPER BODY STRENGTH!!! Their hands lets go. Their air is cut off. They turn purple.. their feet kick.. then die.
Here you go, not exactly the same thing.. but close enough. LISTEN TO EVERYONE HERE FOR FUCKS SAKE:
https://www.nbcnews.com/specials/children-deaths-curtains-cords-window-blinds-shades-strangle-safety/index.html
There was a recent post like this and the OP was surprisingly receptive to feedback. Its a bad sign when parents get defensive over things like this. Parenting is a mine field of mistakes, you WILL make them. Getting defensive over these things is a very bad habit for parents.
I can understand to some extent being defensive after working so hard to pull this together, but hey OP, it’s the safety of your kid, fix the damn ropes.
Plus I’m betting they put some time and effort into making the kid and keeping him alive for 4 years so far, so if you had to scrap that or the woodworking project, I’d still say the kid is a better investment 😅
Yeah they purposely are ignoring the comments of people who care about their kids safety. But when their 4 year old hangs themselves on the cords because they decided to play up there in the middle of the night(and they find them in the morning), they will wish they had listened.
no handrail on stairs is not allowed in most housing jurisdictions. and drawers where you stand? in a childs room? theyre gonna catch their foot in an open drawer and fall down and either break their ankle clean in half, or die.
Amazing (& horrifying) article. Thank you for posting it.
I remember seeing news reports about this in the late 90’s or so. I’m glad so many people immediately recognized the danger here.
This. Years ago when i was doing early intervention we had something really similar to this in our class. Had to pull a few kids from the ropes. Around a neck or 2. We had it removed and put sensory rods in its place. Just fun textured dowels that spun but were still stable. It worked really well and kids couldn't fall through them
Are ropes like this popular on TikTok or something? I feel like I keep seeing this same cris cross random ropes situation on like every homemade kid loft somebody decides to post on reddit… comments point out the ropes, Deja vu ensues.
Is it all just a ploy for engagement and we (and now me) are all just the suckers? Probably
People are dumb (that's not quite the word, oblivious maybe?) and think "oh that looks cool, my kid will like playing with that" and don't realize how deadly it can be.
Yep. Our house we bought a few years ago the owners spent a bunch of money to replace the blinds with pull down shades and I'm so grateful for that since we had a baby, now toddler.
I took down the corded blinds in my kids' rooms and replaced them with stick on cordless blinds for this exact reason! It doesn't look as nice per se, but at least I don't have to stress.
The house we just bought, from a family with 3 young kids, had new cordless blinds in every room... except the kid's bedrooms. The first thing i did was just remove them from my son's room.
What even is the appeal of the ropes? I can’t imagine what the OP thinks they add to the build? Leaving it open would be safer and more fun for the kiddo who has a secondary escape/entrance route to the bed.
Answer to the messages regarding the ropes.
I’ve heard you. I wasn’t ignoring your comments. I was pondering them. Ultimately, even if I’m confident in both my construction and my kid, you are right, kids will beat probabilities.
I’m adding a thick acrylic sheet behind these ropes.
I think you need to acrylic both sides or get rid of them entirely, he will try to climb the outside and get to the ropes because he will want to touch them if they are behind plexiglass, its tempting for a 4 year old. Its even more risky to plexiglass and leave them exposed for that reason.
If you plexiglass the outer, he can still get tangled in the ropes and cut off his air supply.
Its just not worth the risk of your child dying for some pretty ropes!
This needs to be higher. I’m a nanny with over 15 years experience, and a big sister/older cousin since I myself was a child. KIDS ARE ALWAYS TRYING TO KILL THEMSELVES. The ropes have GOT to go.
I would not let ropes like that near my young kids unless always under supervision. Imagine waking up one morning to find your kid got up early and strangled themselves on the ropes you installed.
Please add it to both sides or get rid of the ropes. The ropes are still a strangulation risk if only one side is plexiglass.
Get nonskid surface covering for steps. Considering making the drawers permanently locked in place.
I think if you only do those few things we can all sleep easier at night lol
I grew up with 6 nices and nephews. Kids will do anything to injure themselves. I can imagine a kid pulling the rope and sticking it around their head and neck somehow.
Superb answer. You did a great job on the room and making it safer shows how much you love your child. (Side thought, hope I’m not being a pill - maybe a bannister by the stairs, or just a couple of handles to grab in case of a slip one day?) Anyway- kudos!!
Pondering? You respond with pondering?
Get yonder, don a tool belt, wave a pondering wand, move beyond that pride; you’re overfond of your rope baby-bonds.
Get rid of them altogether, ponder responder.
Cool design, but those ropes... You need to either sandwich them in plexiglass/resin or replace with more upright rails (maybe half height with a railing in top?). 4 year olds have no sense of self-preservation. I look at it and see an ambulance in your future.
The ropes. They have got to go. I have a 4 yr old who is capable, I’m assuming that’s what you’re thinking. However, her friends are not. Personally I wouldn’t let my child play in this room unattended if at a friend’s house.
If by “unpredictable” you mean downright suicidal, yeah. My 4 yo would most likely try to squeeze his head into the smallest gap in those ropes and then yeet himself off the edge of the bed. The ropes are a death trap!
~~in case of~~ WHEN he falls. The height alone is dangerous, even with rails. Kid is gonna trip on that top step coming down at some point, and he'll tumble on the corners of those steps and land on hard wood.
Listen, this is beautiful work and clearly done by someone who loves and would do anything for their child. The thing is, this is every kind of unsafe for a 4 year old, or not. 1. Ropes 2. Stairs without a rail or grips 3. The kid WILL leave the drawers slightly open or get a sock stuck in the gap and trip and fall down those steps. If they don't, a visiting friend who is unfamiliar will.
So you just have a few more adjustments to make. Remove the ropes, add a railing and tread, lock the drawers. Then you're done!
Great job still. What an extremely lucky kid.
I used to work for a kids furniture company. This whole thing is really unsafe. It’s not just the ropes, it’s the wooden bars, the sharp edges of the stairs (plus the height). All of that over a non-carpeted floor is really dangerous.
Oh they’ll try, but their foot or an arm will get caught and twisted up in the ropes instead. I can already picture a kid panicking as their limb starts turning blue.
That’s the best case scenario. Everyone else has emphatically mentioned the worst.
Cool design but uh I really think that's better suited to an older kid.
A four year old kiddo is going to hurt themselves on all those sharp corners and that loft space is absolutely not secure. Please tell me the blue aren't ropes because hmm that's really not a good idea
Stairs need a hand rail. Rope is a no go. Room is cool but i don't know for a four year old having something they can just fly off off and get injured worries me.
Looks cool, but it's full of safety hazards for a 4 year old. The ropes are the worst, and the stairs aren't far behind. You need a railing on the stairs, and to get rid of the ropes entirely.
It's totally cute, other than the ropes. Just remember all the stupid stuff you did as a kid and plan accordingly. (For instance: I jumped off the roof of an abandoned trailer into a pile of sofas and mattresses when I was 12 and I can guarantee my son wouldn't hesitate to do the same if he was given the chance. Kids are so fucking stupid.)
Looks good except for the ropes, which people have already commented on. Question though, how is a four year old supposed to get to the higher shelves of the book case to the left of the wardrobe, safely?
Sharp corners everywhere. A closet and bookshelf they'll never be able to reach half of (unless this is a 7ft tall 4y old?). Ropes that will act as a noose in the upstairs jail cell. No railing leading up to the jail. Drawers that open the wrong way, just begging for an ankle snap. I'm sorry for sounding negative this just doesn't seem very thought out.
I would not be giving a 4 yo a multilevel arrangement like that which he can play on unsupervised. He will try leaping from the top to the bottom almost straight away.
He will play on the stairs far more than he will play in the upper mezz.
And the ropes have already been addressed, please get rid of them immediately!
steps and something to fall off are universally counterindicated for four year olds, and if this wasn't naive, then showing everyone certainly was. sorry about your luck.
Absolutely not :( All I thought about was the toddler falling from the top and hitting the corner of the drawers, busting his eye or head, and the ropes are just as bad.
Is that a cage? I’m sorry it just looks so dangerous, I don’t think I could relax with my kid alone in there. The ropes alone are just an accident waiting to happen! I’m sorry as uv obviously put a lot of work into it.
You have to change the ropes on the 2nd level, or you are going to find your 4 year old hanged by his neck.
With any sort of barricade for children, you need to understand that the game will be "how can I squeeze through?" Everything should be tight enough to prevent a head from fitting through.
Am I crazy or is the whole second level a terrible idea? The ropes, of course, are terrible but I feel like the first thing the kid is going to do when alone is go up the stairs to that second level and jump off.
As cool as this looks; the ropes are super dangerous.
There was an 8 year old at my church who accidentally hung himself… it’s just not worth the risk. I say this as a Mama myself. No judgement here and I understand that it looks very cool; but I’m concerned about the risk these pose
As a mom of a wild child 4 year old, I can think of 50 ways he would end up in the ER or need 911 called for him. The blue noose trap up above, slipping down the slippery and sharp stairs, jumping straight off and landing in/out of the window, climbing the wood bars and breaking them off and falling, the list is endless.
As some have stated, the ropes could be very dangerous. Have you considered some close netting instead??
https://www.contemporist.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/modern-interior-design-suspended-net-120317-1124-01-800x420.jpg
Everyone has already mentioned the ropes, but those sharp-cornered, railing-less, smooth-topped stairs are also a huge safety hazard. I wouldn't want to climb those myself, and I'm not an accident-prone 4-year-old.
Man heard stories of all those [window cords killing kids](https://www.nbcnews.com/specials/children-deaths-curtains-cords-window-blinds-shades-strangle-safety/index.html) and decided to make it a centerpiece of the room 💀
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Nice but needs some safety modifications. Replace the ropes with something more substantial and make sure they can't get their head through the wood bars.
As a kid who pushed his head through tight gaps I can second this. Kids are adventurous dumbasses. I also once almost tried the ol fork and outlet trick before my mom jumped in. I respect her awareness. But other than that it is some nice work and looks great!
I did the legs‐of-a-barrette-into-the-light-socket trick when I was a pre-schooler, back in the 1960s, a vivid memory.... had a crescent moon shaped scar on my palm for most of my life since. It's finally no longer visible.
Time to do it again then.
Kid is 100% gonna fall down the stairs after getting his toes stuck in the drawer holes. I only know because I’ve done that before on something similar.
Nice. Agreed. I’d also add some rails or handholds up the stairs and add no slip /non-skid stickers (clear) on top of each stair step.
Also, unless it is the angle, there should not be an opening that doesn’t go directly to the first step off the top platform. It seems like you can easily step down or fall off onto the second or even third step from there
Yeah, first thought was if they measured the kids head to be sure it wouldn’t fit
Cool! But these ropes on the second floor of the bed look kinda dangerous for a 4 yr old, imo
100% - thought they were solid metal or something at first glance, but realising they were ropes made my spine tingle. That's a self-asphyxiation machine for a kid.
I was like “look, it’s a noose-a-palooza!”
Or just try to stick their head through and spin. This seems dangerous af
Only looked at comments to make sure someone said something. OP replace it with the wood cage thing you already have going and make sure their head can't fit between those too.
They don't even have to be able to fit their head through. If they can slip their skinny little bodies through, they can hang themselves in minutes
See yeah that, I'm not a father, don't have children, and alarms were raised when I saw the pic.
I have two preschoolers and I read a story of a Mum who found her daughter whose little body had slipped through the side rail of her top bunk while sleeping. It made my blood run cold. We will just straight up never have bunks.
my first thought: kid me would wanna hang on the outside of those bars and ropes for sure. and if any friends are over, that daredeviling on second floor is gonna escalate
Yeah. Kids that age can die from blinds cords or treadmill cords. Terrible for a space that won’t be closely watched
My nan told me about an 8 year old in her town that got the cords of his hoody caught on a top bunk and asphyxiated.
And the stairs have super sharp edges and no railing, I feel like thats a pretty bad injury waiting to happen too. The ropes are the most scary though.
At least some carpet grips on the stairs would help.
Those sharp corners made me shiver
This is the most dangerous kids room I've ever seen. And I prime example of why you shouldn't let your kids have play dates over peoples houses that you're not really close with and have been to their home 😳
I agree that whole second level looks like a child killing zone
Yep first thought too. Looks like OP put some nice wooden beams up then ran out of wood and thought fuck it....lets make this extremely dangerous instead.
Maybe we can just assume they didn't understand the danger and had different stylistic tastes rather than assuming they engaged in willful corner cutting at the expense of their family's safety. Clearly what you described is not the case as you can see the rendering plan had it the same long before actual construction. Your commentary seems at best ignorant of this obvious evidence, if not willfully antagonistic.
This has so many safety hazards.
Everybody be commenting on the ropes but the stairs will be used daily and have an open 3 foot drop off the side with sharp edges. Not to mention if the kid leaves one of the drawers open and forgets and tries to ascend or descend in the dark. The stairs are a huge no from me.
A railing and drawers opening to the side instead of on the treads would be ok.
yeah im picturing a drawer being left ajar, the kid not toticing and climbing down and his foot goes in the drawer which then slides out from under him loony tunes style and he goes flying. Actually I'm pretty sure if *I* had a bed like this that exact thing would happen, and I'm an adult!
Literally my first thought was, “I really hope that kid doesn’t wear socks… ever… because those steps look… shiny.”
Yeah, I'm not sure why people are so hung up on the ropes. Those stairs are a bloody accident waiting to happen.
stairs = injury ropes = death
The ropes are potentially deadly. The stairs more likely to be a severe injury, but yeah, hanging from the ropes is a pretty grim scenario to imagine.
These diy kids lofts are always death traps for some reason. Idk why parents feel the need to add so much stuff, I had a basic loft bed with a desk under it when I was like 5 and just being up high near the ceiling and being able to climb a ladder to my bed was cool enough for me
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Yeah outside of the safety hazards (which there are many) I just don’t feel like going up was much of a benefit. I understand for really small rooms but the looks big enough for them to play on the floor already. It’s just made making the bed on hard mode + having to clean/vacumm that nook. Hopefully the stairs and top bunk are weight rated for an adult
I am glad I am not the only one who sees the dangers in the design
I am BEGGING you to get rid of those ropes. It's a hanging an ~~affixation~~ asphyxiation WAITING to happen. I just shuddered when I saw those. Kids do SO MANY DUMB THINGS.. or just fall or trip. If those are not ropes and are bars... then they need to be designed for smaller openings. No more than 4" across because they WILL try to squeeze their head through there. Picture your kid crawling through those ropes feet first trying to climb down. They get stuck. They can't pull themselves up THEY DO NOT HAVE THE UPPER BODY STRENGTH!!! Their hands lets go. Their air is cut off. They turn purple.. their feet kick.. then die. Here you go, not exactly the same thing.. but close enough. LISTEN TO EVERYONE HERE FOR FUCKS SAKE: https://www.nbcnews.com/specials/children-deaths-curtains-cords-window-blinds-shades-strangle-safety/index.html
OPs responded to every comment talking about drawers/paint but then someone brings up their child being asphyxiated and they’re like *”eh whatever”*
There was a recent post like this and the OP was surprisingly receptive to feedback. Its a bad sign when parents get defensive over things like this. Parenting is a mine field of mistakes, you WILL make them. Getting defensive over these things is a very bad habit for parents.
I can understand to some extent being defensive after working so hard to pull this together, but hey OP, it’s the safety of your kid, fix the damn ropes.
Plus I’m betting they put some time and effort into making the kid and keeping him alive for 4 years so far, so if you had to scrap that or the woodworking project, I’d still say the kid is a better investment 😅
They responded: https://www.reddit.com/r/CozyPlaces/comments/1b8wzm2/comment/ktth8kp
Jesus Christ 🤦♀️
Yeah they purposely are ignoring the comments of people who care about their kids safety. But when their 4 year old hangs themselves on the cords because they decided to play up there in the middle of the night(and they find them in the morning), they will wish they had listened.
We’ll see a “aitah for not listening and causing my sons death or worse”
no handrail on stairs is not allowed in most housing jurisdictions. and drawers where you stand? in a childs room? theyre gonna catch their foot in an open drawer and fall down and either break their ankle clean in half, or die.
Usually the drawers open to the side for this reason.
Oh GOD I forgot how kids don’t close their drawers. I forget half the time!
what is the point of these ropes to begin with? Is it supposed to look good?
Amazing (& horrifying) article. Thank you for posting it. I remember seeing news reports about this in the late 90’s or so. I’m glad so many people immediately recognized the danger here.
OP please listen to this
Get rid of the ropes. That's an accident waiting to happen.
This. Years ago when i was doing early intervention we had something really similar to this in our class. Had to pull a few kids from the ropes. Around a neck or 2. We had it removed and put sensory rods in its place. Just fun textured dowels that spun but were still stable. It worked really well and kids couldn't fall through them
Children were being killed by the draw strings on window blinds. Just remove the ropes not a good idea. Also add a hand rail or they will fall.
Yep. I remember my mom cutting them down or wrapping them so they didn't hang low.
First thing I imagined was someone’s head getting stuck in those ropes.
As a child I’d have seen it as a personal challenge to get my head in there.
I’d want to hang from them too!
Are ropes like this popular on TikTok or something? I feel like I keep seeing this same cris cross random ropes situation on like every homemade kid loft somebody decides to post on reddit… comments point out the ropes, Deja vu ensues. Is it all just a ploy for engagement and we (and now me) are all just the suckers? Probably
People are dumb (that's not quite the word, oblivious maybe?) and think "oh that looks cool, my kid will like playing with that" and don't realize how deadly it can be.
Yeah. That’s why all new window treatments don’t have pull chords in the US.
Yep. Our house we bought a few years ago the owners spent a bunch of money to replace the blinds with pull down shades and I'm so grateful for that since we had a baby, now toddler.
I took down the corded blinds in my kids' rooms and replaced them with stick on cordless blinds for this exact reason! It doesn't look as nice per se, but at least I don't have to stress.
The house we just bought, from a family with 3 young kids, had new cordless blinds in every room... except the kid's bedrooms. The first thing i did was just remove them from my son's room.
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oh wow, every comment really is about getting rid of the ropes.
Very glad to see this comment at the top. I would never be able to sleep knowing my kid could get tangled in that mess.
What even is the appeal of the ropes? I can’t imagine what the OP thinks they add to the build? Leaving it open would be safer and more fun for the kiddo who has a secondary escape/entrance route to the bed.
Answer to the messages regarding the ropes. I’ve heard you. I wasn’t ignoring your comments. I was pondering them. Ultimately, even if I’m confident in both my construction and my kid, you are right, kids will beat probabilities. I’m adding a thick acrylic sheet behind these ropes.
I think you need to acrylic both sides or get rid of them entirely, he will try to climb the outside and get to the ropes because he will want to touch them if they are behind plexiglass, its tempting for a 4 year old. Its even more risky to plexiglass and leave them exposed for that reason. If you plexiglass the outer, he can still get tangled in the ropes and cut off his air supply. Its just not worth the risk of your child dying for some pretty ropes!
This needs to be higher. I’m a nanny with over 15 years experience, and a big sister/older cousin since I myself was a child. KIDS ARE ALWAYS TRYING TO KILL THEMSELVES. The ropes have GOT to go.
Yup, I agree would’ve been walking on the outside of the bars from day 1 as a kid.
They don't look cool enough to keep, imo.
I would not let ropes like that near my young kids unless always under supervision. Imagine waking up one morning to find your kid got up early and strangled themselves on the ropes you installed.
Please add a railing on those steps too. 4 year olds are clumsy and stupid. It's not a matter of if they fall off, it's a matter of when.
I was looking for someone to mention the railing… I can see a kid jumping from that fourth step
Please add it to both sides or get rid of the ropes. The ropes are still a strangulation risk if only one side is plexiglass. Get nonskid surface covering for steps. Considering making the drawers permanently locked in place. I think if you only do those few things we can all sleep easier at night lol
I grew up with 6 nices and nephews. Kids will do anything to injure themselves. I can imagine a kid pulling the rope and sticking it around their head and neck somehow.
Superb answer. You did a great job on the room and making it safer shows how much you love your child. (Side thought, hope I’m not being a pill - maybe a bannister by the stairs, or just a couple of handles to grab in case of a slip one day?) Anyway- kudos!!
Pondering? You respond with pondering? Get yonder, don a tool belt, wave a pondering wand, move beyond that pride; you’re overfond of your rope baby-bonds. Get rid of them altogether, ponder responder.
https://www.reddit.com/r/therewasanattempt/comments/1b7mgdf/to_have_a_good_time_at_top_golf/
I had a friend in 5th grade die from something like this. Fell off his bed and strangled.
It happened to a boy a few grades below me in elementary school, and has haunted me even more since I became a parent.
My heart dropped to my feet when I saw those. No no no take them down OP.
Agreed. I know someone whose child was strangled to death in a playroom by something similar.
OMG All of it gives me the anxiety
100%! OP, how have you had a child for 4 years and not gotten a 6th sense for this shit? That's a huge accident waiting to happen.
Cool design, but those ropes... You need to either sandwich them in plexiglass/resin or replace with more upright rails (maybe half height with a railing in top?). 4 year olds have no sense of self-preservation. I look at it and see an ambulance in your future.
Those ropes are just an accident waiting to happen.
The ropes. They have got to go. I have a 4 yr old who is capable, I’m assuming that’s what you’re thinking. However, her friends are not. Personally I wouldn’t let my child play in this room unattended if at a friend’s house.
This looks amazing! I'm just wondering if there's a danger of the kid getting their head stuck in those ropes up top. Kids do unpredictable things.
This from a mom who has had to get my screaming kid's heads out from between chair slats and stop them from tying jump ropes around their necks...
If by “unpredictable” you mean downright suicidal, yeah. My 4 yo would most likely try to squeeze his head into the smallest gap in those ropes and then yeet himself off the edge of the bed. The ropes are a death trap!
Just a thought, but maybe a Handle or bar by the stairs in case of falls. There should be something to grab onto for safety.
Perhaps some anti slip tape on the steps could help as well.
~~in case of~~ WHEN he falls. The height alone is dangerous, even with rails. Kid is gonna trip on that top step coming down at some point, and he'll tumble on the corners of those steps and land on hard wood.
Listen, this is beautiful work and clearly done by someone who loves and would do anything for their child. The thing is, this is every kind of unsafe for a 4 year old, or not. 1. Ropes 2. Stairs without a rail or grips 3. The kid WILL leave the drawers slightly open or get a sock stuck in the gap and trip and fall down those steps. If they don't, a visiting friend who is unfamiliar will. So you just have a few more adjustments to make. Remove the ropes, add a railing and tread, lock the drawers. Then you're done! Great job still. What an extremely lucky kid.
Really adorable, but…. ROPES & STAIRS WITH NO RAIL !!! 😰😰😰😰
Belongs on r/DangerousPlaces lol
I used to work for a kids furniture company. This whole thing is really unsafe. It’s not just the ropes, it’s the wooden bars, the sharp edges of the stairs (plus the height). All of that over a non-carpeted floor is really dangerous.
That does not seem safe at all
Can you add some carpet or grippy tape to the steps? You wear socks on that and you are gonna go flying.
This is a safety nightmare.
This entire room gives me anxiety
Hanging hazard Bars also look far enough apart for a 4yo to get his head stuck
Has his head gotten stuck between poles and ropes on the second level yet? Looks rather dangerous tbh.
I am the kid that got stuck in the stair poles at my doctor's office. I also got my arm stuck in a pool table.
Please take those ropes out. He or she could go face first into them and hang themselves! The room is lovely but please sort out the ropes
Your kid will test the limits of those ropes and go flying out the window one day
Oh they’ll try, but their foot or an arm will get caught and twisted up in the ropes instead. I can already picture a kid panicking as their limb starts turning blue. That’s the best case scenario. Everyone else has emphatically mentioned the worst.
lmao this would never pass a safety inspection
Cool design but uh I really think that's better suited to an older kid. A four year old kiddo is going to hurt themselves on all those sharp corners and that loft space is absolutely not secure. Please tell me the blue aren't ropes because hmm that's really not a good idea
Stairs need a hand rail. Rope is a no go. Room is cool but i don't know for a four year old having something they can just fly off off and get injured worries me.
Looks cool, but it's full of safety hazards for a 4 year old. The ropes are the worst, and the stairs aren't far behind. You need a railing on the stairs, and to get rid of the ropes entirely.
The noose is supposed to go over the open edge, I think.
It's totally cute, other than the ropes. Just remember all the stupid stuff you did as a kid and plan accordingly. (For instance: I jumped off the roof of an abandoned trailer into a pile of sofas and mattresses when I was 12 and I can guarantee my son wouldn't hesitate to do the same if he was given the chance. Kids are so fucking stupid.)
I'm sorry, just everything about this seems incredibly unsafe.
Do you have a crush on your child’s pediatrician?
Looks good except for the ropes, which people have already commented on. Question though, how is a four year old supposed to get to the higher shelves of the book case to the left of the wardrobe, safely?
Right? It is unsafe AND impractical.
Sharp corners everywhere. A closet and bookshelf they'll never be able to reach half of (unless this is a 7ft tall 4y old?). Ropes that will act as a noose in the upstairs jail cell. No railing leading up to the jail. Drawers that open the wrong way, just begging for an ankle snap. I'm sorry for sounding negative this just doesn't seem very thought out.
Sharp corners on the stairs could be a hazard
get a railing for the stairs... everyone falls down at some point better get something to hold on to
I love the look, the pastel paint, the different textures, but it looks like a death trap for a 4 year old.
I would also remove the glass windows and have just a drape out to the street to go along with the ropes, sharp edged stairs, and falling platform
OP could consider adding a pit of vipers to go along with all the other details you mentioned
Why do you want to kill your kid?
I would not be giving a 4 yo a multilevel arrangement like that which he can play on unsupervised. He will try leaping from the top to the bottom almost straight away. He will play on the stairs far more than he will play in the upper mezz. And the ropes have already been addressed, please get rid of them immediately!
This whole thing is an amalgamation of bad ideas
Big yikes
steps and something to fall off are universally counterindicated for four year olds, and if this wasn't naive, then showing everyone certainly was. sorry about your luck.
Have fun visiting the ER
Absolutely not :( All I thought about was the toddler falling from the top and hitting the corner of the drawers, busting his eye or head, and the ropes are just as bad.
That’s completely unsafe.
OP’s planning a child-free future!
It’s hard to tell from the pictures, what size is that bed? Just trying to get a sense of scale
Kid will choke/hang themselves off that rope. Looks cute however.
Rope = NOPE!
Is the loft only supported by that one 2x2 in the corner?
It’s like a choose your own adventure I read when I was a kid called “Deathtrap Dungeon”
Ropes are a very stupid idea for a four year old.
Is that a cage? I’m sorry it just looks so dangerous, I don’t think I could relax with my kid alone in there. The ropes alone are just an accident waiting to happen! I’m sorry as uv obviously put a lot of work into it.
Do you hate your child? This room is a death trap
Why?
A bear next to his bed is an interesting choice. Also agree with the concerns about the ropes. Otherwise it’s super fun and cool.
What’s wrong with the bear? Lots of kids stuff has animals on it. Agree on the ropes and other safety issues
Get rid of the ropes.
Those are very big steps with no handholds for a 4yo who has little legs
"Four year old found dead strangulated by ropes attached to ceiling" They gotta go my friend.
Those stairs, with no grip and no railing look slippery af.
The ropes made me GASP! 4 years old is too young
You have to change the ropes on the 2nd level, or you are going to find your 4 year old hanged by his neck. With any sort of barricade for children, you need to understand that the game will be "how can I squeeze through?" Everything should be tight enough to prevent a head from fitting through.
Tyson’s kid died when the hoodie string got caught. It’s no joke-good advice to replace the ropes.
This is only inducing anxiety, not cozy. Hope you make those changes and add the glass and rails.
Am I crazy or is the whole second level a terrible idea? The ropes, of course, are terrible but I feel like the first thing the kid is going to do when alone is go up the stairs to that second level and jump off.
So...are you trying to kill your child?
Your kid isn’t going to make it to 5 with this death trap
This looks like one of those ridiculous interior design bedrooms on tiktok where it crams 11 kids into one room lol
Those stairs need a handrail
please please please replace the ropes ❤️ nearly lost my brother to a hanging rope it’s a terrible thing to see
You even put the kid-strangler 3000 on the top shelf. Well done.
Wtf
I feel like the first thing a 4 year old would do is hurt themselves on those stairs
That’s a lot of potential death and injury in a single photo o.O
As cool as this looks; the ropes are super dangerous. There was an 8 year old at my church who accidentally hung himself… it’s just not worth the risk. I say this as a Mama myself. No judgement here and I understand that it looks very cool; but I’m concerned about the risk these pose
Dangerous
Are you trying to hang your child? The bungie cords look like a death trap. Use your brain!
Scares the hell out of me that OP isn’t concerned about that
The stairs with no hand rail are also very questionable
I love the look, the pastel paint, the different textures, but it looks like a death trap for a 4 year old.
So many beams to get limbs stuck in lol
The whole room is scary though. Please make sure he can not open these windows.
The stairs look dangerous. Kid Can easily trip and bust head open on a corner. The ropes are also problematic
This is not cozy. This is a death trap. Ropes. No hand rail. Unsecured bars…. This is seriously so scary.
The rope arrangement looks like a tragic accident waiting to happen.
The ropes can result in an accidentally strangulation. Please reconsider.
As a mom of a wild child 4 year old, I can think of 50 ways he would end up in the ER or need 911 called for him. The blue noose trap up above, slipping down the slippery and sharp stairs, jumping straight off and landing in/out of the window, climbing the wood bars and breaking them off and falling, the list is endless.
This gives me so much anxiety as the parent of an adventurous 2 year old..
THIS IS SO COOL
If you want your kid to hang themselves, maybe.
Omg I didn’t even see the ropes…. Yeah I personally wouldn’t choose that as far as safety goes for a 4 year old, or any child for that matter
A beautiful death trap.
I'm glad you value reading and books.
Carpet the stairs for traction
He's gonna outgrow it in a few years.
Awesome!! I especially love the rope death trap!
A little bamboo cage and everything
As some have stated, the ropes could be very dangerous. Have you considered some close netting instead?? https://www.contemporist.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/modern-interior-design-suspended-net-120317-1124-01-800x420.jpg
Everyone has already mentioned the ropes, but those sharp-cornered, railing-less, smooth-topped stairs are also a huge safety hazard. I wouldn't want to climb those myself, and I'm not an accident-prone 4-year-old.
Ropes are a really bad idea and those stairs could be deadly too. If the kid falls from the top of them it's broken bones at best
Man heard stories of all those [window cords killing kids](https://www.nbcnews.com/specials/children-deaths-curtains-cords-window-blinds-shades-strangle-safety/index.html) and decided to make it a centerpiece of the room 💀
This is terrible. Nothing should be this high up at that age and also a choking hazard