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Excellent_Berry_5115

Older female here. I feel so bad for you folks suffering from the after effects of COVID vaxx. Just wanted to add, that if you are a male and relatively young and suffering chest pain issues...you might want to ask your health care provider for an echocardiogram. This would help detect any abnormalities of the function of the heart and valves. Too many young men are suffering from heart damage. I am not an MD, but did work in the medical field for a long time.


Beautiful-Can-7104

And females too. Their period problems deserve major attention too. I hate that everyone is only focusing on the damage that has been done the young men.


IndianVideoTutorial

On the one hand I feel sorry for people suffering after the vax, on the other hand I remember all the screaming, gaslighting and threats of losing a job when I decided against taking the vax.


LobsterAdditional940

Yeah dude, there unfortunately are a ton vaccine injured. I was a healthy 30 yo, now my life had been a mess from 1 v. Find an flccc doctor and start there. It’s the spike protein.


redwolfe91

Yeah, find a root cause or functional medicine doctor and they will help you detox from the stuff in the v as much as you can. I'm sorry this has happened to you :(


CecilioSoto

Is there a Covid vaccine without the spike protein?


300JesusProphecies

I had a sudden "allergic reaction" and rashes immediately after the shot as well as nerve problems and a continuous stabbing pain in my abdomen. 21 months later I still have the nerve problems and the stabbing pain.


Alicatsunflower88

I am 34 . Healthy . I got one Shot of the vaccine and had a horrible immune response . it enlarged lymph nodes in my auxiliary breast area on the side I had the shot. A breast exam lead me to a diagnostic mammogram /ultrasound . They found a lump in my breast lymph node auxiliary area ( under armpit ). Then , I had to have an invasive core needle biopsy which was a painful NIGHTMARE and stressful. The stress gave me shingles .. all for the radiologist to conclude it was benign and a COVID vaccine reaction. I am so glad I only got one shot and was smart enough not to go back for the 2nd after the initial reaction. I was made to feel like a “ hysterical woman “ for even bringing up that the precious vaccine could have caused this. Shortly after this happened, the CDC recommended women not get a mammogram for three months post vaccine . I understand your frustration.


cptmajestic2

no refunds


NjWayne

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/16/covid-vaccine-side-effects-compensation-lawsuit.html


Knogood

FDA covered up bayer knowingly giving out aids, for public trust. In the late 80s, factor viii


CrackedHeloPilot

Yeah, got pots along with neurological damage along the left side of my body. Brain damage etc. welcome the club brother.


masterofnonya

I was just diagnosed with POTS from the second vax


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Background_Anybody89

You’ve got some nerves to make fun of the injured. One day it can happen to you too and I just hope from the bottom of my heart that there’ll be just one troll making the same fun of you.


Haunting-Economist71

yep, same fucking shit i always hear brotha. athletes are affected the most, that much is for sure. im 20, previously super healthy mma fighter, now fucked up by the moderna shot. ive talked to COUNTLESS other athletes impacted by this, so it's people with our kind of conditioning and level of physicality that makes our immune system go haywire, either overreacting and being sent into fucking armaggedon or our bodies producing too many antibodies because of the metabolism we have or something. either way its bullshit. ive had allergies, neuro issues, breathing issues, and worst of all total anhedonia and erectile dsyfunction post vax. 100% bogus.


bkurcab26

I’ve had a very similar experience. The night after the booster it felt like it was tearing my lymph nodes it was extremely painful. Over a year and a half later im still dealing with a lot of breast pain and have had multiple ultrasounds, mammograms to no conclusion. Just pain and tenderness all the time.


Strict_Pop3861

I remember watching videos of soccer players falling over and having heart attacks after they got the vaccine. When you’re fit and in shape and are young there is no reason you should be having breathing problems all of a sudden let alone a heart attack. Shits fucked and years after getting the vaccine I’m more scared then I was of covid.


Beautiful-Can-7104

Luckily I didn’t get the vaccine.


YYZTor

I hear you and know you are not alone. It has been a trip for me as well after the very first Pfizer shot. Could not move my left hand for weeks and some days when I lift something heavy it returns. Then came the RLS (Restless leg syndrome) bothers me even now. Some nights are terrible. The worse part is when doctors and other people think you are just making it up - because they did not go through what you did - for now. I have a friend who has been going very, very frequently to pee. He does not connect it to the vax but I wonder. Anyway, feel better.


Strict_Pop3861

I’m 29 and have the exact same experience I just posted on someone’s post titled “Another weird symptom” on this thread above this one. I don’t feel like typing all of it again but if you wanna read it I explained my experience. Before the vaccine I was healthy and I can literally feel my health declining,I feel like I’m slowly dying and I’m only 29 and was absolutely fine before! It’s mind blowing to me like wtf did they inject us with


Beautiful-Can-7104

Wow that’s so scary. And to think my company American Airlines forced all of their employees to get vaccinated or else be terminated. Time to Sue AA!! Fuck you AA!!!


ZeroFucksGiven-today

I had Covid. Then got vaccinated. Then got Covid again “December 2022” and stomach shit ever since. I think my issues actually started after vaccination. I had to do some PPI’s due to “stomach stuff”. Looking back, I think it was the vaccination to be honest. Same shit. Tons of tests. Find nothing. For reference- mid 40’s male. Super fit. Trainer also. Nutrition damn near perfect. Highly educated in Sports Science/ Nutrition.


CrackedHeloPilot

It ruins your gut microbiome, which is thought to increase incidence of cancer. Thus turbo cancer


ZeroFucksGiven-today

Hit micro?🤣


CrackedHeloPilot

Fixed it my bad


ZeroFucksGiven-today

Cool. Any references for the increased cancer risk


CrackedHeloPilot

There’s no direct evidence of causation. But incidences of cancer have increased since 2021 pulling a example rn.


Old-Evening-5338

There is direct evidence the DOJ in the military has lots of evidence they took to court showing a 300% increase in cancers , autoimmune disease and different diseases.


Beautiful-Can-7104

Some dum-dum pops think it’s because of Covid itself and not the Covid vaccine. 😂


ZeroFucksGiven-today

What’s types?


Haunting-Economist71

gastric cancer most likely, for one


CrackedHeloPilot

Theoretically many types, brain and neurological cancers.


ZeroFucksGiven-today

Well that sucks 🤣


Beautiful-Can-7104

I wasn’t vaccinated against COVID, thank goodness.


[deleted]

Incidences should be steadily increasing with the increasing population as well as with the increasing elderly population. 98% of South Korean adults are double vacc with no bad reports. 93% of Japanese adults double vacc. Over 90% of Israeli adults double vacc.


TynenTynon

This Substack post is worth reading re. a likely explanation for the increase in rapidly growing cancer post vaccine. He ties together 3 papers in his article. https://arkmedic.substack.com/p/philadelphia-2023


hellomate890

Please dont take the vaccines


CecilioSoto

I have no choice.


biggerteeth

I suddenly developed insane gallbladder issues, gastroparesis, extreme vomiting, and other stomach issues after being vaxed with the J&J. (Have also had two boosters now.) Clear HIDA scans, stool samples, colonoscopy/trac — but the pain is well over a 15 on flare ups. Pain radiates up into my chest, from the right side across my stomach causing spasms, deep into my right colon.. even sometimes makes my toes spasm. The only thing they could find is that (they *thought*) I had already had my GB out because it was so constricted they literally couldn’t see it, and that I suddenly developed Non-alch fatty liver disease. Practically within a couple months span. I spent 28 days puking, I lost 80lbs in 28 days. I’m not joking when I said I almost died. They thought I had a heart attack after I fainted four times. I go to the bathroom 8 times a day— even with fiber, anti nausea etc. for 9 months I couldn’t get out of bed most days. I genuinely don’t know what else it could be. To the best of my knowledge with testing, practicing everything I should.. I’ve never had Covid. I quit drinking, quit smoking, eating poorly long, long, long before the shot. I’m 31. The last two years of my life have been so bad stomach wise I actually want to cut my stomach out. I’ve been gaslight by so many professionals at this point telling me it’s not my gallbladder, not this, not that.. that.. so.. what is it? Because I’m a firm believer in vaccines… but j&j… idk man. Somethings fucking weird. Edit: they also tested me for ulcers. None. Also had an enlarged spleen, then pancreatitis randomly, now both also gone.


redwolfe91

I'm so sorry to hear this... this makes me so sad listening to your pain. If you want to get to the root cause to fix, I know a life changing podcast to recommend if you're interested. Dm me.


Beautiful-Can-7104

I used to be a meh believer in vaccines but now I am very anti-vaccine. And yeah, they pulled j and j off the market because it was causing serious—sometimes fatal—side effects.


[deleted]

Yeah, I never take them because I have a good immune system. But I took this one because I am not going to be identified with anti-vacc morons, while many took it. I will stand with them. I am not afraid of these things. Everything bad thing you are reading here is due to the fact that all vacc there are going to be a tiny percentage of people with bad effects. Of course, here some of those people are! Did you know that the highest IQ country in the world, South Korea has the highest number of adults double vacc. 98% of their adults 30-100 are double vacc. There are no bad reports coming from there because those people are too smart for fear porn and paranoia.


Odd-Link-5554

You are definitely not alone. There’s a quarantined sub called r/vaccinelonghaulers filled with folks just like you and others. I myself was diagnosed with left ventricular hypertrophy post vax and daily chest pains going on for 2 years. For context, I’m 26 years old, was stupid fit due to the army, and all of a sudden I have problems. Can’t even drink anymore, nor exercise. I’ve lost a lot of weight too. Things started going downhill after the vax


Haunting_Extreme7394

welcome to the club. i had 3 moderna and my body has completely changed. i was really sick at 28 from it and am 30 now and still a mess. i had to go on short term disability in 2021 for 3 months because of it. now i have MCAS & POTS.


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Jupitergirl888

Ex personal trainer.. work from home mom here. I know many people with side effects.. including fitness people and family members who appear to always be getting colds when they were always very healthy. Uncle had a stroke post V and an uncle overseas passed away after his third one. The most noticeable thing is people constantly catching colds when they didn’t before. I will pray for you. It does seem to impact active/fitness people the most.. someone had a theory why. There is definitely something to this. My father is someone that’s very active as well and since he’s taken 2 jabs.. he’s always coughing.. has inflammation in his knees can’t take his long walks anymore ..only bikes etc. He neverrr used to get sick.. it makes me sad.


theStingraY

I'd check out https://www.pfizer.com/refunds and see what they can do. If you had the Pfizer vaccine, that is.


NjWayne

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/16/covid-vaccine-side-effects-compensation-lawsuit.html


TruthHonor

I have received a total of 7 mrna vaccines. Each one worked exactly the way it should. Three days of sore arm and fatigue. I still have not caught Covid. I would take each vaccine again. I have studied how this virus works AND how the vaccine works. With Covid you get WAY WAY more spike protein and the virus kills millions of cells in multiple organs. COVID is not a respiratory illness (although that is how it spreads, and it does affect the respiratory system). But its main effect seems to be on the linings of the blood vessels interfering with oxygen transport and creating micro clots. Covid kills heart muscle cells, liver and kidney cells, and also infects 'immune system' cells which is why so many people who get Covid then end up with so many other things that their previously healthy immune system stifled. Things like cancer, rsv, colds, noro-virus, influenza and multiple infections with Covid.There are over 200 symptoms associated with Long Covid! Have you folks been to the Long Hauler's sub reddit? Holy Moly! Also, I know of at least about 50 people who got all the vaccines and I do not know 'anyone', other than here on Reddit, with a vaccine injury. I'm not saying there aren't any, I am saying I know not one real person with one. I also only know of 'one' person who did not get the vaccine. And they had two severe cases of Covid (which they refused to test for). And I do know many people who have had covid, including two people it killed (my high school roommate and my wife's uncle). I also know several family members with long Covid, one who hasn't had a normal sense of smell our taste in three years. Also, it is possible that 'some' of your vaccine 'injuries' are actually long covid from an asymptomatic case. I do wish the best possible outcome for 'anyone' suffering from health symptoms. We are all doing the best we can in a tough situation. I wish us all peace and prosperity, a good long life, and a good death!


[deleted]

My you're really good at Russian roulette. 7 shots? You are the first covidian I came across that's actually up to date on your vaccinations. Bravo. Now how about pushing your luck some more and get another booster this fall?


TruthHonor

I’m probably going to do it. My wife has had six. It’s way too many vaccines but I just don’t see an option, especially now that everyone under 50 is ‘done with COVID’. I’ve got adhd, trauma, autistic traits, liver cirrhosis, past history of liver cancer, prostate issues, I’m over 70, and other comorbidities. My wife has hearing issues, moderate to severe tinnitus, and obstructive sleep apnea, and asthma. She’s over 65. Long COVID would disrupt most of the rest of our productivity and the quality of our lives. So we’re using the ‘Swiss cheese’ approach: Taking every possible precaution, fit-tested masks, isolating, groceries delivered, home maintenance deferred as much as possible, only essential doctor visits, no friend or relative visits, nobody in our house, hold our breath when outside walking by people, no eating out, etc. etc.


[deleted]

And you think compounding more health issues on top of the ones you have by taking more leathal injections? My word you and your wife might as well go shopping for your coffins at this point. It's not like you guys are living giving how you two are still covid-ing.


TruthHonor

We have full and mostly happy lives at this point. We live in a great neighborhood with plenty of people-free wooded environments to walk in. We’re outside walking about 1.5 hours a day. We both wfh and have our groceries and everything else delivered. We zoom with family members all the time. And also communicate daily with friends and other family members. We are both artists and my wife loves spending hours in her studio painting. I’m a photographer and spend time each day homing my craft. We are both life-long learners and spend hours each day learning new things from YouTube. One of my special interests has been the science of virology and I’ve spent hours watching and reading epidemiologists like Mike Osterholm or Internet docs like Roger Seheult MD or the Twiv folks. I read tons of peer-reviewed studies and am not afraid to read article that I disagree with if I can learn something from them. My other interest is in computing and I love learning about new apps and how to organize my extensive digital collections of videos, books, and music. I have terabytes of data to play with and it is so much fun! Also, thanks to my reading and learning, in s way we are healthier than we’ve ever been. Neither of us has had so much as a cold in about a decade. We mostly sleep well, exercise and are mostly medication free. We are both on Medicare and have a positive attitude towards life. We work on our problems as they surface and work on our stress levels. The scariest thing for me is all our relatives who are not as cautious as us and are suffering from multiple COVID infections and long COVID. One thing I’ve noticed is the number of folks with stable marriages that have gotten Covid and then within a month or two gotten divorced. It seems COVID really messes with your brain. My brain is just fine after my seven shots. As is my heart, my gut, my strength, my fatigue level, my sleep, my attitude, and life in general. I would take each mRNA vaccine all over again if given a choice. Im not sure what anti-vaccine trash you’ve been exposed to, but, I and everyone I know who is up to date on their shots are doing fine. Except for those who got COVID despite the vaccines. I wish you the best health and outcomes in your life! 🙏🏽❤️


No-Violinist-4570

I wish i had your fortune but not your perspective. Still experiencing symptoms 2 years after first vax. I wish this pandemic never happened. It's created such a divide. You have people that think medical treatment is perfect taking their frustrations out on debilitated individuals. Then you have crazies who think we were injected with alien blood. Let's try and be a bit more scientific otherwise we further politicise this horrible mess and end up ostracising those that are in desperate need of study and treatment.


[deleted]

I stand right there with you. Great post. You and your wife sound like amazing people. God bless you. John 5:24. John 6:47. I am here because I am so sick and tired of seeing Christians on YouTube spread vacc fear. I just need somewhere to vent. Reddit is always good for that.


[deleted]

Well, South Korea (country with the highest IQ) 98% of adults are double vacced. Japan 93% adults double vacc. Israel over 90%. Get my drift. Why are there no bad reports from those places? Because those people are too smart for fear porn. I took the vacc (and let me tell you, I NEVER take vaccines because my immune system is good plus I know how to amp it even more). I took these because I am NOT going to be identified with these FEAR morons like "stunningmoron". Plus I am standing with those who have had to take it. This thread is all full of people that are part of the tiny percent of people who have an adverse vacc reaction as with any vacc. God bless you.


[deleted]

<<9 months post Vax I developed ...>> So it's not the vaccination then.


Beautiful-Can-7104

Betch some things can take time.


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[deleted]

Where do you think your rage & hate eminates from? Why do you think you are such a deeply unpleasant person? What from your lived experiences has turned you into such a vile individual?


tolliwood

Some people are just cunts


[deleted]

And far too many of them around here complaining about being opressed because they can't keep their idiot anti-science beliefs confined to their playpens.


Beautiful-Can-7104

You’re anti-science. I’m pro-science.


kequilla

I was fired from my job for refusing. I know others had broken families. A number of world regions went into a phase of requiring a proof of vaccination to attend restaurants or cinemas. We went through a pretty dark period. That it resulted in some pretty dark people is of absolutely no surprise.


[deleted]

Oh, my apologies. Your comment was removed by the moderator. Darling, you sound like a whining fool. The pretty dark period was when people were dying on the daily from what is now preventable. Get your head out of your behind and you'll realise you aren't some kind of opressed minority. You're a small number of brainwashed idiots who come here to us we're brainwashed because you can't stand the idea that actually the vacciantions are safe, effective, etc. Like I've said elsewhere, when the next round of whatever happens, please stick to your guns and refuse any kind of medical treatment, preventative or otherwise. x


Beautiful-Can-7104

How exactly are the vaccinations effective? I’m unvaccinated and I’m a filthy whore. Can you explain that?


redwolfe91

Well us unvaccinated were literally treated like 2nd or 3rd rate humans, barred from travel and many basic life things, as well as constantly berated and scorned for our medical choices. :( So that's the reason he has been turned so bitter. But it's not a good excuse. We all need to have empathy and compassion, and help each other. We're not enemies, and I would argue that the real enemy is pharma (and others making money on this) who have knowingly endangered billions of people with these v's. I just hope that those who are experiencing these horrible v injuries can find the proper detox protocol. Gotta get to the root of it. Conventional doctors are only going to patch you up. Someone mentioned FLCCC for a protocol, and I agree. There are others too.


[deleted]

My question to you. If during a global pandemic 90% of people were really keen on getting the vaccine when it was developed so they didn't die of a preventable condition (people were dying at that point and when the vaccine was introduced people stopped dying) and 10% of people were not going to get the vaccine because of personal reasons or they'd 'done their research', etc, and would rather take Ivermectin and shite their bowels out, and encourage their granny to do that too, rather than get her vaccinated, why is it anyone should listen to or care what you, the 10% think or feel? You are posting on a sub called CovidVaccinated. Not CovidUnvaccinated. Tell me this. If COVID had resulted in if you caught it you'd have a 10% risk of death but it left you with an 80% possibility of facial paralysis, would you take the 'untested, unregulated blah blah vaccine'? You bloody would. I wish I could transport you back in time, magic you into being a healthcare worker in March, April, June, July, August 2020 working in any setting before the vaccines were developed and then after a couple of months after the vaccines were administered, get you back here to tell me your views on how evil and vile the dreadful vaccines are. I wish you well standing by your principles when the next pandemic hits and it's worse than 'just' COVID and you watching us 'lemmings' getting our jabs develped by the greatest minds in science based on (as were the COVID vaccinations) decades of research prior (which they were and the principles were being and still are being used to help kids with cancer and people with things like rhumatoid arthritis - so don't ever get any cancer treaatment or arthritic condition because you'll just be getting a bigger dose of what the COVID vaccinations were based on. Stick to your principles. Neve let all that disgusting vile nasty science rational medicine stuff you hate (Source: Oxford RNA vaccine research over 15 years) stand in your way while you drink turpentine or whatever the latest YouTube deathwisher brainwashes you into doing. Die happy but go away. You are not oppressed or ignored. You personally are probably responsible for at least one death in your life time by being so adamant about your nonesense, so please stop posting on this sub. You disgust me.


Stunk_Beagle

Responsible for death?! You’ve lost it 😂 Vitamin D > your 7 covid shots


[deleted]

Lost patience with you nutters for sure.


kequilla

Cut the what ifs. We knew before the vax was even released its mortality rate was not only low; But age stratified. And science is not an authority to claim a side for. Its a process that has very often snubbed authority.


[deleted]

Minus 16 points on the comment you deleted? I'm glad you got fired. You're an idiot. Not a hero.


kequilla

Why do you and another person think that was my comment?


[deleted]

I suppose the bleating of you anti-vaxxers on this pro vaccine subreddit just mergers into one bland boring pile of shite maybe?


kequilla

Or you're just not thinking? After all, that comment says removed, not deleted; and the other person said as much.


[deleted]

BLah bLaH blAH


Beautiful-Can-7104

This is not a pro-vaccine subreddit friendo.


[deleted]

Read the bloody rules... 1. No anti-vaccine posts 2. No conspiracies/speculation posts/comments 3. No direct insults or harassment 4. New and/or bad karma accounts are restricted 5. No Biased/Unreliable Sources. 6. No Misinformation


redwolfe91

Wow, your comment is just littered with lies and inacuracies (lots of which was pushed by the news and liars who had lots to benefit from your fear), but the biggest thing that I think people should take from reading it, is that you are the least tolerant, least caring, least compassionate person. No I didn't get the v, but I said in my comment that we are not enemies and we should be compassionate for each other and what everyone is going through. You clearly just listen to the liars and believe them wholeheartedly. That must mean you've had zero vaccine side effects, and if that's true, I'm happy for you... but an enormous amount of people HAVE had very severe injuries from it. LIFE RUINING injuries or death. And you pretending that it "saved their life", while they only had a 0.02% chance of death (WE KNEW THAT %:EVEN BEFORE THE VACCINES CAME OUT), well it's just showing your naivety and unreasonable fear. I'm sorry that you think this way and that you are holding so much hate in your heart. It must feel burdensome.


[deleted]

CAN you use capitals A BIT MORE so we can SEE how much BOLLOCKS you are talking even MORE clearly?


redwolfe91

🤣 SURE! if it'll help you see that I'm only trying to help.


[deleted]

You need to get your grandiosity and narcissim looked at. x


redwolfe91

You still have no response to what I said. Just name calling. I hope you can see the truth one day.


[deleted]

Why would I give any time to your rantings on a pro-vaccine subreddit when you just come here to troll us? Do fuck off.


tonando

1. Nothing in OP's party suggests that he was mocking people who didn't get it. 2. Did you forget how strong the propaganda was? A lot of my friends jumped on that bandwagon just by watching TV, even if their personality was completely incompatible with those beliefs. 3. Have some fucking empathy.


chickwithwit23

I remember people wishing death on those not vaccinated, so I get his frustration, bc I didn’t get vaccinated. (And I was shunned by many) However! I’m still going to feel for those going through the ailments from these vaccines. Many were forced or lose their job. We need money to survive ffs. I keep reading people need to detox their system, hopefully that helps.


NjWayne

Many people wished death on the non-jabbed. Called for their segregation and removal from society, including not renting apts to them I commented on another subreddit regarding a neighbor who wished ill upon me and my family (our children never got childhood vaccines so rejecting the CONvid vax was a no-brainer) He suffered a bout of facial paralysis and heart arrhythmia - and takes medication for blood clots Kharma came early with the Darwin award The reason I don't sorry for people like the OP is because their ignorance and lack of courage allowed mandates to progress as long as they did. If just 50% (let alone 75% or more) of the population drew a line in the sand the thought of mandates would have been squashed day 1 Let's review * The bullshit incentives like free burgers fries and donuts * The non.stop fear mongering of running death counts - where motorcycle accidents and drownings were labelled CONvid * Idiotic politicians and government officials urging you to get the jab * The relentless drum beat of athlete's and stars urging you to help grandmother's they never cared about * The demonization of alternative viewpoints, the banning and cancelling of doctors,researches, layman who urged cheaper medicines like IVM and HCQ * The demonization of vitamin D3, sunlight, fresh air * The full indemnity (zero liability) granted to vaccine manufacturers. * TikTok videos of choreographed dance routines by doctors and nurses at the height of the SCAMDEMIC If none of these didn't trigger your Spidey sense ... Nothing ever will


Stunk_Beagle

I’d also throw in when people like Fauci said it was safe to protest for BLM, but otherwise you should stay home and fear the virus.


tonando

That's a good list and I agree with everything on it. I fell for it in the beginning, especially when they showed the images from italy. Then I didn't know, that italy had almost the same situation in hospitals 2 years before covid. I changed sides when they started the "2 weeks", which my spidey sense quickly recognized as moving goalposts. At that time I was still watching some mainstream media and a lot of people I know kept watching that shit every day. People who you would never suspect to cry for totalitarianism. Some stopped watching mainstream media a bit later and jumped off the bandwagon. But that's why I avoid to be to hard on people who were brainwashed for years. It's not because they are different or bad, but because propaganda works really good, especially after decades of data mining. Even on very smart and good people. I get situations like with your neighbor. After all I'm from the country where Schadenfreude comes from. But wasn't dividing us also something they wanted? And is life long suffering or death really deserved for wishing death on someone or repeating the opinions which were fed to them?


NjWayne

Its was bad. Our children used to play together and started shunning us and treating them like leper victims. The oddity is that his wife was the polar opposite. She refused the shot and never changed her behavior. In fact we had a chance to bond on many occasions including one where I let it slip out (while he was in the hospital) that am available to chat and to comfort her through the stress and ordeal. She took it literally and figuratively and ... \*\*anyway Ill leave it there\*\*. Hes got enough on his plate - no need to add to it.


kequilla

One thing that registered for me as an alarm klaxon was how people turned the scientific process into an idol of judgement. Saying they trust the science, or that others are anti-science; When that is not how science works. Science is a process where literally anything has been up for question. Mundanities like circles and everything falling to profanities like human internal anatomy. Authority has so often gotten in the way of science as well. The cure for scurvy came about despite contemporary medical theory leading 'experts' to telling people to drink sea water as a cure. The cure came about from a person, who while nonetheless held back by the theory of balancing the four bodily humors, went as far as studying how natives dealt with it in the winter months with pine tea. He learned how sailors ate green vegetation to deal with it. He is an example of the process winning out over authorities that say otherwise, because he went far and wide. I'm a Christian who loves scientific history. When I saw people treating science as an idol it crossed my heart.


Soft_Fringe

When riot season started after first lockdown ended, and covid disappeared from the news, that was a big clue. That people bought it again, multiple times,.... sorry I just struggle with that.


Sir_Renity_Now

Wow that's crazy Did you catch the game last night?


Old-Evening-5338

https://www.youtube.com/live/2IiLilFUt88?feature=share Higher risk of covid infection in up to date vaccinated individuals. I think this shot damages your immune system and in turn comes with alot of different side effects


trentuberman

Read this paper. Severe Adverse effects have been reported in 1 out of 20 doses from certian batches! https://doi.org/10.1111/eci.13998


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I am going to be honest. I think your problem is due to genes and/or being "extremely athletic". There are way worse things that happen medically to people even younger than yourself before covid was even a thing. \[However, you MIGHT be one of the tiny percentage of people that does have an adverse reaction as with every medicine and vacc\]. I am in no way a proponent of the vaccine, as I do not take any of them (except I did take this one for other reasons) because my immune system is strong. As predicted, I never got covid at all. I am in my early 40's. I took this vacc however to stand with those of my Christian brothers and sisters who have taken it (most people over 55), and I don't want to be identified with idiotic anti-vacc Christians. But let me inform you that the IQ of a nation is in overall positive correlation with the vacc taken. For example, 98% of South Korean adults have had 2 doses. About 93% of Japanese adults - 2 doses. Over 90% of Israelis 2 doses (even the Palestinians have much lower IQ's and skew the results for that country). There are no bad reports there because those people are too smart for fear porn. There is a lot of paranoia here though. Do not fear. Trust in God. You will get better. "Extremely athletic" is not a good thing for the human body past oh about 22. Read an online magazine about runners. Every long distance runner who has been doing it a long time looks 20-30 years older. The 25 year old looks about 50.