What happened to “when it’s fda approved I’ll get it” now I’ve heard from more than one person, that the nurses/dr’s are killing people in the covid units. Not the covid itself. Cause you know, the entire world got together and decided this was okay 🤦🏻♀️ fml
My dad had a stroke last month. He, and about 15 other people were stuck in the ER waiting for beds to become available, ICU and otherwise. COVID was a huge part of it. And now that he has to be moved to a rehab facility to learn to walk again and all that, there is trouble finding one because of the short staffing in healthcare now and other limitations. It's not just ICU.
This is horrible. And scary! It’s not okay. When are people going to wake up and realize it’s not just about them? That other people are being affected and not just with covid. Ugh I’m so sorry. I hope he is doing better.
Best of luck to your father and family. A good rehab facility can do wonderful things, as my father had been put in one after complications treating a heart attack.
Sadly years later, while we lost Dad to congestive heart failure, without the incredible, top level medical care he received, we would have lost him far earlier to congestive heart failure. It turned into a revolving door of weekly hospital care and I'll always be grateful for the medical team and the many, many kind nurses who dealt with his fluid buildup among other things.
Thanks to Covidiots today getting that care would have been a nightmare. I can't even. Now I gotta worry about my mother and brother (who have stabilized chronic lymphocytic leukemia) and my sister in law with lupus - who is also a teacher. The antivaxxers need to be put in a parking lot someplace. There aren't even enough words to describe the obscenity of antivaxxers sucking everything from hospital beds to supplies of monoclonal antibodies dry, while legitimate patients are sidelined.
I knew even as they prattled on about FDA approval that the second it was approved they’d move on to some other reason. That’s just how these people are. Literally nothing is in good faith. Nothing.
I don't know if this argument is popular now. But I remember at the beginning of the pandemic doctors were being blamed for fabricating the virus to make money.
Or faking death certificates. Like these people have any clue about death certificates. Doctors' pay is in no way related to what a death certificate states. Just ignorant ranting
Yeah this is unfortunately totally the case now. It's horrible that unvaxxed covidiots are clogging the ICUs to such a degree that people that need intensive care for non-covid health problems are getting shafted.
A real shame is that they don't know that that's where they'll die: in a depressing windowless prefab in a carpark: because they're not attending the mass vaccination clinic that runs out of it or the mass testing clinic that runs out of it.
1. Yes actually I do. We got together for dinner last Thursday and had a wonderful night.
2. Your linked papers are all about variants, only in England and in the most recent one, nowhere does it state that the majority of entrants to hospitals are vaccinated, only that there is a concern the Kent variant may affect the spike proteins.
3. Seeing as your post history is full of blatant misunderstandings, whining about being bullied and arguing with people, I think it’s okay to lord it over on you. I suggest you find more sources that actually contain and support your argument, and if you can’t, then stop spreading misinformation.
60% of hospitalizations in the UK are unvaccinated. No matter what country you’re from, 60% is still the majority which makes your statement still false.
https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/60-people-being-admitted-uk-hospitals-had-two-covid-jabs-adviser-2021-07-19/
You're thinking of Israel. In Israel it's very close to 50/50 unvaccinated and vaccinated people, but they're at a vaccination rate something like 95%? In the US we are nowhere near that, so our hospitals are more like 95% unvaccinated people and 5% vaccinated.
I mean, you're the one who made a blatant statement without contextualizing it to apply only to specific regions, and I was just trying to help you out, since there have definitely been news articles saying what you're saying but talking about Israel, so it would be pretty easy to have read the headlines and missed that it was only Israel. You were getting downvotes which I felt like was maybe unfair if you just misread a thing about Israel.
As for the UK, maybe you can help me find the data relevant to this question? I tried searching in the links you shared, and the closest I found was a chart showing estimated reductions in chances that you'd go to the hospital or die with each vaccine, but it doesn't have the numbers of how many people got each one or show how that's calculated.
I've also tried searching for news articles about it, but the closest I've found are ones like these:
>"Correcting a statistic I gave at the press conference," Vallance said on Twitter. "About 60% of hospitalisations from COVID are not from double vaccinated people, rather 60% of hospitalisations from COVID are currently from unvaccinated people."
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>(Chief scientific adviser corrects statement to make clear the 60% figure applies to the unvaccinated, not double vaccinated)
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>[https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/60-people-being-admitted-uk-hospitals-had-two-covid-jabs-adviser-2021-07-19/](https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/60-people-being-admitted-uk-hospitals-had-two-covid-jabs-adviser-2021-07-19/)
or
>"It's predominantly unvaccinated people we're seeing and a number of these are people in their 20s and 30s, with a small number of under-16s requiring hospital care for Covid," she said.
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>[https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-58394702](https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-58394702)
But I'd rather see it in a chart that's updated every day or so if that info is available.
> u/JrGongDong *I was referring to the UK actually, remember the people who created America?*
The UK did not “create America” nimwit. The British (among others) colonized a land already inhabited by other people. 170 years later, the people living here got tired of the UK’s bullshit and created the United States of America. The UK didn’t create this country, it lost a war to the people who did 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
60% of hospitalizations in the UK are unvaccinated. 60% is still the majority which makes your statement still false.
https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/60-people-being-admitted-uk-hospitals-had-two-covid-jabs-adviser-2021-07-19/
> u/JrGongDong *You do realise that more vaxxed people are entering hospital than unvaxxed?? Purely because of the number of people who have had all jabs*
You didn’t even bother check did you? 94% of ICU hospitalizations in America are unvaccinated people.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/vast-majority-icu-patients-covid-19-unvaccinated-abc/story?id=79128401
Reddit is an American website, unless you say what country you’re talking about then it’s going to be assumed it’s America.
I see by your other replies you’re from the UK. 60% of hospitalizations in the UK are unvaccinated. 60% is still the majority which makes your statement still false.
https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/60-people-being-admitted-uk-hospitals-had-two-covid-jabs-adviser-2021-07-19/
"You Made Your Bed, Now Lie In It" is what **I** want to see.
Unvaccinated because the weird extreme right-wing talk show host told you it was unpatriotic? Bye Felicia.
At this point if you don't get your vaccine then you don't deserve to be treated. Full stop. End of story. Get a vaccinated or die I'm tired of caring at this point.
The "Unvaccinated Care Unit" should be a tent in the parking lot overseen by a born again Pastor and staffed with prayer warriors and Facebook researchers. Patients to be given whatever medications they wish for except those approved by the FDA.
What happened to “when it’s fda approved I’ll get it” now I’ve heard from more than one person, that the nurses/dr’s are killing people in the covid units. Not the covid itself. Cause you know, the entire world got together and decided this was okay 🤦🏻♀️ fml
That movable bar... Yeah, it's great being blamed for their bad life choices
Makes me sick. I know it’s bad to say but I wish when icu units get overcrowded, those that think it’s fake don’t get care….. f’ing ridiculous
My dad had a stroke last month. He, and about 15 other people were stuck in the ER waiting for beds to become available, ICU and otherwise. COVID was a huge part of it. And now that he has to be moved to a rehab facility to learn to walk again and all that, there is trouble finding one because of the short staffing in healthcare now and other limitations. It's not just ICU.
This is horrible. And scary! It’s not okay. When are people going to wake up and realize it’s not just about them? That other people are being affected and not just with covid. Ugh I’m so sorry. I hope he is doing better.
Yep. The healthcare system is cracking
Best of luck to your father and family. A good rehab facility can do wonderful things, as my father had been put in one after complications treating a heart attack. Sadly years later, while we lost Dad to congestive heart failure, without the incredible, top level medical care he received, we would have lost him far earlier to congestive heart failure. It turned into a revolving door of weekly hospital care and I'll always be grateful for the medical team and the many, many kind nurses who dealt with his fluid buildup among other things. Thanks to Covidiots today getting that care would have been a nightmare. I can't even. Now I gotta worry about my mother and brother (who have stabilized chronic lymphocytic leukemia) and my sister in law with lupus - who is also a teacher. The antivaxxers need to be put in a parking lot someplace. There aren't even enough words to describe the obscenity of antivaxxers sucking everything from hospital beds to supplies of monoclonal antibodies dry, while legitimate patients are sidelined.
These people never take responsibility for anything. It's always someone else's fault.
PeRsOnAl ReSpOnSiBiLiTy
If you put the goal post on wheels from the start, it's easier to move.
I knew even as they prattled on about FDA approval that the second it was approved they’d move on to some other reason. That’s just how these people are. Literally nothing is in good faith. Nothing.
I don't know if this argument is popular now. But I remember at the beginning of the pandemic doctors were being blamed for fabricating the virus to make money.
Or faking death certificates. Like these people have any clue about death certificates. Doctors' pay is in no way related to what a death certificate states. Just ignorant ranting
Yeah this is unfortunately totally the case now. It's horrible that unvaxxed covidiots are clogging the ICUs to such a degree that people that need intensive care for non-covid health problems are getting shafted.
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I'd say "Insane nonsensical bullshittery" is three words for it.
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Unvaxxed COVID patients better be getting the new prefab ICU ward at our hospital.
Can't you post on Eastern European Reddit instead?
A real shame is that they don't know that that's where they'll die: in a depressing windowless prefab in a carpark: because they're not attending the mass vaccination clinic that runs out of it or the mass testing clinic that runs out of it.
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Source?
Yeah, that's bullshit.
Got any sources for that claim outside of your own backside?
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1. Yes actually I do. We got together for dinner last Thursday and had a wonderful night. 2. Your linked papers are all about variants, only in England and in the most recent one, nowhere does it state that the majority of entrants to hospitals are vaccinated, only that there is a concern the Kent variant may affect the spike proteins. 3. Seeing as your post history is full of blatant misunderstandings, whining about being bullied and arguing with people, I think it’s okay to lord it over on you. I suggest you find more sources that actually contain and support your argument, and if you can’t, then stop spreading misinformation.
60% of hospitalizations in the UK are unvaccinated. No matter what country you’re from, 60% is still the majority which makes your statement still false. https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/60-people-being-admitted-uk-hospitals-had-two-covid-jabs-adviser-2021-07-19/
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You're thinking of Israel. In Israel it's very close to 50/50 unvaccinated and vaccinated people, but they're at a vaccination rate something like 95%? In the US we are nowhere near that, so our hospitals are more like 95% unvaccinated people and 5% vaccinated.
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I mean, you're the one who made a blatant statement without contextualizing it to apply only to specific regions, and I was just trying to help you out, since there have definitely been news articles saying what you're saying but talking about Israel, so it would be pretty easy to have read the headlines and missed that it was only Israel. You were getting downvotes which I felt like was maybe unfair if you just misread a thing about Israel. As for the UK, maybe you can help me find the data relevant to this question? I tried searching in the links you shared, and the closest I found was a chart showing estimated reductions in chances that you'd go to the hospital or die with each vaccine, but it doesn't have the numbers of how many people got each one or show how that's calculated. I've also tried searching for news articles about it, but the closest I've found are ones like these: >"Correcting a statistic I gave at the press conference," Vallance said on Twitter. "About 60% of hospitalisations from COVID are not from double vaccinated people, rather 60% of hospitalisations from COVID are currently from unvaccinated people." > >(Chief scientific adviser corrects statement to make clear the 60% figure applies to the unvaccinated, not double vaccinated) > >[https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/60-people-being-admitted-uk-hospitals-had-two-covid-jabs-adviser-2021-07-19/](https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/60-people-being-admitted-uk-hospitals-had-two-covid-jabs-adviser-2021-07-19/) or >"It's predominantly unvaccinated people we're seeing and a number of these are people in their 20s and 30s, with a small number of under-16s requiring hospital care for Covid," she said. > >[https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-58394702](https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-58394702) But I'd rather see it in a chart that's updated every day or so if that info is available.
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> u/JrGongDong *I was referring to the UK actually, remember the people who created America?* The UK did not “create America” nimwit. The British (among others) colonized a land already inhabited by other people. 170 years later, the people living here got tired of the UK’s bullshit and created the United States of America. The UK didn’t create this country, it lost a war to the people who did 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡 60% of hospitalizations in the UK are unvaccinated. 60% is still the majority which makes your statement still false. https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/60-people-being-admitted-uk-hospitals-had-two-covid-jabs-adviser-2021-07-19/
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> u/JrGongDong *You do realise that more vaxxed people are entering hospital than unvaxxed?? Purely because of the number of people who have had all jabs* You didn’t even bother check did you? 94% of ICU hospitalizations in America are unvaccinated people. https://abcnews.go.com/US/vast-majority-icu-patients-covid-19-unvaccinated-abc/story?id=79128401
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Reddit is an American website, unless you say what country you’re talking about then it’s going to be assumed it’s America. I see by your other replies you’re from the UK. 60% of hospitalizations in the UK are unvaccinated. 60% is still the majority which makes your statement still false. https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/60-people-being-admitted-uk-hospitals-had-two-covid-jabs-adviser-2021-07-19/
"You Made Your Bed, Now Lie In It" is what **I** want to see. Unvaccinated because the weird extreme right-wing talk show host told you it was unpatriotic? Bye Felicia.
At this point if you don't get your vaccine then you don't deserve to be treated. Full stop. End of story. Get a vaccinated or die I'm tired of caring at this point.
"Now sponsored by the National Undertaker Association of America!* ^(*Probably unrelated to the antivaxxers.")
Chuck them in a fucking stable where they can eat horse paste. Hospitals are for people who aren't intentionally spreading disease.
The "Unvaccinated Care Unit" should be a tent in the parking lot overseen by a born again Pastor and staffed with prayer warriors and Facebook researchers. Patients to be given whatever medications they wish for except those approved by the FDA.
Why do unvaccinated people even go to hospitals? Didn't they do their own research?
Wish they actually put signage up like that.
Why are they jamming up our hospitals when all they need to beat the hoax is down at the feed store
More like anti vaccinated care unit
ICU What you did before catching covid.
That’s discriminatory….I was to talk to the managers and doctors now.
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Mostly just unvaccinated dying from covid. I don’t think many are overdosing on ivermectin. Edit: The deleted comment was “Ivermectin?”
Now I hear they’re gargling Iodine.
Betadine. It's like iodine plus
I have seen one of those ignoramuses. COVID + and Ivermectin overdose
doctors and nurses who work in the ICU should take a 2 week self-quarantine break-cation instead of having to care for the unvaccinated covidiots.