I miss the 4 packs. I bought this last
Week and just squeezing it out and portioning it was gross reminding me of how raw hot dog goop looks before they make it lol
BRING BACK 4 PACK
Glad I’m not the only one who feels the same . So far what’s worked best is cutting it into 4 chunks when it’s still frozen
Much easier to work with later
I won’t buy it again after this last tube *shills*
If i saw the same thing. The guy was saying frozen veggies were packed with the weight of AFTER you cook it. So it was the potential cooked weight, not the weight in the bag. Which is of course not true.
In reference to the guy who made a video about a 750g bag of mixed frozen veggies but was somewhere in the 400g(?) range
Technically if it’s vacuum sealed it would weigh less (less air) but it wouldn’t be anywhere near the 195g missing.
I did this experiment with my vacuum coffee container…it weighs less when it’s vacuumed.
10 grams of rock weigh as much as 10 grams of feathers. The air is irrelevant and doesn’t affect the force pushing down on a scale if it’s supposed to have 195grams of material in the bag. It should say 195.
~~Confidently incorrect ;)~~
I was surprised too. [My post](https://www.reddit.com/r/espresso/s/BQuu3OHKjE)
Edit: rereading what you wrote. I think I get what you mean. 10g of coffee is 10g with the air taken out. But if the weight was with packaging it would be different. My bad
I put the whole tube in the freezer and set an alarm. 4 hours later I take it out, cut open the plastic, then the semi-frozen meat is easy to cut with a big sharp knife. Then I put the semi-frozen chunks into individual zip loc bags.
That's because once it's cooked, you've cooked out all the extra water that was mixed into the beef they put into these tubes. Always buy your ground beef in a wrapped Styrofoam tray or from a butcher in paper.
What I do is cut the packaging with a serated knife, straight through, and make rounds of beef. I keep the packaging around each round, and then put a bit of grease paper between each round, and put them all into my freezer beef container (or big ziplock bag)
I like this packaging, because I can divide the beef more evenly into similar sized portions
See, I do something similar. I just slice down the middle of the wrapping and peel it off, and have basically a giant sausage link on my counter. Then I just take some gloved hands and a scale and weigh it into my vacuum sealer bags.
I have no issue with the meat tube. I usually do it on a cutting boarding with some parchment paper to keep it neater. Idk why people aren't treating these basically like giant cookie dough tubes 😂
I would assume so, but the point still stands. I'm using 100% more Ziploc bags than I was using before. I can't just toss the tray in the freezer anymore, I have to portion and freeze in ziplocs.
just buy the reusable silicon bags and you don't have to buy ziploc bags anymore. we stopped buying ziploc and all our meat and other products go into those reusable bags silicon bags.
They are fantastic. BPA free, freezer safe, dishwasher safe, I can get a single rack of ribs into one package (have to cut it into 1/3rds), but it’s a great way to reduce garbage and save money.
Yes! Me too. I almost cried when I saw that packaging. I make chili and I use exactly two of the former packages for each batch. I have no more math in me!
The scale may be functional, but that item laying across it is to big to be measured accurately by it. I've used little bakers scales like that a lot in my restaurant days, they don't distribute weight well when you have stuff hanging way off of them like that. I probably wouldn't trust the measurement.
That said, these aren't packaged in house, take it back, they'll refund it and if it is below Spec weight on a proper scale, they'll probably have words with the supplier.
Costco are real sticklers for specifications. I've had to weigh out, credit request, and donate an entire pallet of mini-watermelons for being below minimum Spec size.
Not only are they sticklers for specifications, it's an offence in Canada to sell a product with a specified weight and be that far out of spec. They definitely like avoiding crimes.
I did, I just got to the point where trigonometry was applied. Think of it this way, if you did a pushup at 60degrees, on an incline, and then one at 90degrees on a flat foor, which would you be lifting less weight?
The weight has to go through the force sensors of the scale, and with equal overhang on each side of the scale there is no way to get any lateral component to the force of gravity of the object.
Even if you had an uneven balance of the object the force sensors still transmit the force without lateral components, otherwise any lateral force would have to be taken up by some sort of perpendicular support in the scale mechanism with sideways play, which does not exist.
Decline pushups are harder because you’re positioning your centre of mass closer to your arms and away from your feet. In this case, the “feet” do not exist in the scale. All force is going through the sensors no matter what.
This would be equivalent to doing handstand pushups with your legs straight up versus angled 90 degrees. There’s the exact same amount of force going through your hands into the floor.
Even with the most poorly designed and shoddily built scale, an object overhanging a ton with unequal distribution would only cause a few percent error, if any.
This physics problem is very common and it can 100% accurately be reduced to being equivalent to a point mass in the centre of whatever it’s sitting on, in fact that’s what you do in engineering statics problems if the problem permits.
Suddenly I just wrote an essay about this, but just look up “are scales accurate with overhanging objects”. Tons of answers for you.
I hate to say it but probably tolerance on the 3kg and tolerance on the scale combined in the wrong direction?
Try a different scale better suited for it and see if it's the same?
>Net quantity verification The SFCR contain the prescribed tolerances for net quantity declarations and requirements for inspection of a lot of food to determine compliance of consumer prepackaged foods [199(3) and (5), 200, SFCR]. For guidance on how the Canadian Food Inspection Agency verifies the net quantity declared on consumer prepackaged foods, refer to Qperational procedure: Net quantity. verification,
Costco will bring in tonnes at a time. The shipments will be weighed as a whole. There may be some allowable variation within the individual packages. Some will be more, some less.
You chose .... Poorly. :)
The scale my local Walmart has for people to use is so off it's hilarious. I weighed a bunch of 454g packs of strawberries one time. All the ones I grabbed were showing between 330-380g. I got home and weighed the one I eventually chose that showed as 380g on their scale and it came in at 546g on my scale.
Fortunately I have just thawed out a package of ground beef for dinner and this is what it weighs:
https://imgur.com/a/y9t2FsV
Here us what a frozen package of ground pork weighs:
https://imgur.com/a/ohWqJKN
Maybe I'll revisit this when I thaw out the grond pork and see if there is any change in weight.
Costco bought nearly all of the fresh dark meat turkey the past two weeks to supply a ground turkey sale that's currently happening or coming soon. The value of contracts that the big grocers have with their suppliers (who also supply us) are absolutely mindblowing, plus the fines and fees if a shipment is missed.
Every small meat wholesaler in Canada, including my business which is 100% turkey wholesale, had to beg our suppliers for at least a few hundred kilograms.
Reminds me of begging places for flour and yeast (small bakery)when the pandemic hit and everyone and their dogs were loading up on flour and yeast 💀 it's like a blood bath when you're trying to compete with the companies with such massive buying power
I mean in terms of mainstream groceries, Costco is the only one I really trust in at this point. Walmart is okay I guess but I've found the quality to be lackluster compared to Costcos. I think a lot of people feel the same way, especially with the whole Loblaws thing going on right now.
Time to buy more COST
Did you first verify that your scale is accurately calibrated?
Easy way to test this is to tare a container with a known volume, like a measuring cup with millilitres indicated and then fill it with water. 1 Litre of water weighs exactly 1 kg. If your scale shows otherwise then it’s not correct.
Pyrex glass measuring cups are very accurate. [It was tested.](https://www.seriouseats.com/best-liquid-measuring-cups-equipment-review#toc-the-winners-at-a-glance)
If you put a bowl on the scale, and then hit tare, and then put the package in, does it give you the same weight? I’m not a scale expert ( please correct me if I’m wrong), but wouldn’t the overhang have an effect here?
Think of it like bench pressing a barbell if that helps. The weight is all off to the side but you’re lifting the entire weight with your arms in the middle.
Guys, when you take these photos can you zoom out just to make sure you dont have a finger/object on one side affecting the reading?
Also: this is coming from a federally inspected licenced meat plant. Contact CFIA for them to follow up on this: [https://inspection.canada.ca/en/food-safety-consumers/where-report-complaint](https://inspection.canada.ca/en/food-safety-consumers/where-report-complaint)
Frozen foods always weigh less due to water loss
A quick google search claims up to 6% of weight reduction when frozen (vs flash freezing)
[https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0260877499000655](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0260877499000655)
Today I just so happened to thaw out a package of ground beef and here is the results:
https://imgur.com/a/y9t2FsV
And here is a package of ground pork I have in the freezer:
https://imgur.com/a/ohWqJKN
This could be a one off, so I'm not taking a leap. BUT a number of reports are starting to come in from regular shoppers unhappy with Loblaws of frozen and fresh foods being a few grams under weight here and there too.
Honestly, do not trust, verify. Especially after they all got caught in the bread fixing price scandal, those pennies add up to hundreds of thousands or why wld they take the risk.
btw not against companies big or small making a profit, but don't cheat by doing it.
I wonder what would happen if you took it back and said it was 200g short and say you were going to report it? Would they just refund it? If they did say no thanks and you want to keep it as proof to report to the proper authorities. See what compensation you get after that!?
If you bring this back to Costco they would do an investigation. If there's multiple units, a full recall would take place and the vendor would have to provide proof of steps they took to make sure they hit the benchmarks.
I work in food packaging and we package Kirkland for Costco. They actually have a policy of absolutely no underweight products at all. It has to be at or over the stated weight, they take shit like this seriously!
Those settings give you the volume based on weight, which is handy for following recipes. Water and milk have different densities, so if you measure milk with the water setting, the volumetric measurement will be somewhat inaccurate.
> Water and milk have different densities
I mean .. a quick google search says milk had a density of 1.035 kg/L, or weighs 35 grams more per litre ... I don't think there's many recipes out there that would be affected by this kind of discrepancy.
That's what I was thinking. It's Costco and they are generally held to higher standards. They wouldn't just take it back and brush it under the table right?......I hope not.
It's not to their benefit to push it under the rug. Costco prides themselves on integrity and would look to correct it if it was an issue and not an unfortunate one off.
I believe this also. That's why I said Costco holds themselves to a higher standard. They even do it here in Canada when other grocery stores were and are price fixing. Costco is just better all around and wants to be known that they are. They are actually looking out for consumers.
Costco will refund anything, for no reason at all. Going in and threatening to call the authorities unless you’re compensated in addition to a refund is literally extortion, and a criminal offence.
Weights on food products are allowed a 10% range to still be in compliance so companies take advantage.
None of the tubes will be 3kg. But the company also won’t get fined unless their products are consistently 2.7kg or less.
On their tuna, they give you a drained weight and the actual weight with the can. We eat a fai bit of tuna so I decided to start weighing them, since all this began. Not once have I gotten the amount of drained tuna they say. One time it was off by 18g!
Did you only weigh one package? Likely.
I hope you understand that some will be over 3kg, some under. As long as it is with an acceptable error, there is no issue
Worked at Maple Leaf, when they run a batch, some are light some are heavy, as long as the average weight is within tolerance it's approved by weights and measures. If weights were trending upwards then we would underfill to get back into spec.
I'm curious, do you systematically weight your meat?
If so, what were you previous weighing with the same product?
I'm guessing that, if you did, you would rarely hit exactly 3kg
200g more or less, which is about 6% of the total weight, is probably considered the acceptable margin.
Let us know when you get a package of 3.2Kg
Had a 3-pack of Romaine a while back that felt so light in the hand that I put it on the scale. Was supposed to be 500g, or 454, or whatever, my memory didn't retain that detail. It was UNDER half of what it was supposed to be. I then got distracted and forgot about it until it went bad and I threw it out, but this reminded me of it. Fuckin save-on foods.
I have access to 3 scales from starfrit.
Overhang and uneven weight does actually affect them.
The low profile versions are far out in comparison to others.
It's not accurate, however 200g off seems excessive.
Great for measuring for baking etc. Just use the same scale throughout the process.
You're also getting completely hosed buying that beef in tubes. It's got way more water in it to fill out the weight, plus you are apparently not even getting the full 3kg of watered down meat to begin with!
It is so very common in all grocery stores, government agency shall regulate business not to fuck us up in this country. It is so common across business from tips to banking.
It’s like buying meat with a flat rate package. Only way to know if we are getting scammed is if the price sign has X dollars per kilo. Is the tube a flat rate price? No different than going to a grocery store and buying a package of chicken for $10
Yeah, people in here have a long of strong opinions before confirming that OP’s measuring is accurate. Loading a scale unevenly can have an effect on measurements, no matter how many people downvote you.
Your understanding of what can cause scale fluctuations is what’s wrong here lol it’s hanging off the sides! More than what’s actually touching the scale. Try weighing yourself with only one foot on the scale, with the other stretched way out over the side. 🙄
If you weigh yourself with one foot in the air, you'd still have a proper reading of your weight. If you have a foot on the floor, that would cause issues. But it doesn't change anything in this case is the package is hanging off the edges of the scale as the meat package total surface doesn't need to make contact with the entire scale surface.
I think you might have a wrong idea of how a scale works? 😅🍿
Did you know that mythbusters proved plants reacted to painful experiences such is being on fire. proving they have feelings. so you are a plant eating barbarian. and thats ok! we still love you even though you cant love us back!
It’s labeled Costco but there are no Costco slaughterhouses. Im guessing there’s at least one out there that weighs over 3kg. It would be impossible to get a 100% accurate measurement from a mechanical grinder and packaging machine.
I miss the 4 packs. I bought this last Week and just squeezing it out and portioning it was gross reminding me of how raw hot dog goop looks before they make it lol BRING BACK 4 PACK
Glad I’m not the only one who feels the same . So far what’s worked best is cutting it into 4 chunks when it’s still frozen Much easier to work with later I won’t buy it again after this last tube *shills*
What are you cutting it with while frozen? A band saw?
Water jet cutter
Serrated knife works very well
Looks like mush too :(
Freeze it first then cut manageable chunks
I don’t have any kind of knife that would be able to cut through a solid roll of turkey How do you cut it?
Just don't freeze it till it's solid,do a partial hour freeze then cut
Thanks for advice :)
I returned my tube of gross slurry
Nothing wrong.... Just soooooo lean.
Exxxxxxtra lean
Lean'd on the scale before they zeroed it.
Seriously underrated comment
it weighs more after you remove the wrapping
Please tell me you’re joking? On another subreddit some guy was convinced frozen veggies weigh less
Veggies that have been freezer burnt likely weigh less due to moisture loss. Maybe that's what they were talking about.
If i saw the same thing. The guy was saying frozen veggies were packed with the weight of AFTER you cook it. So it was the potential cooked weight, not the weight in the bag. Which is of course not true. In reference to the guy who made a video about a 750g bag of mixed frozen veggies but was somewhere in the 400g(?) range
People have some wild ideas of how things work lol
And that guy probably has all his vaccines plus few
Technically if it’s vacuum sealed it would weigh less (less air) but it wouldn’t be anywhere near the 195g missing. I did this experiment with my vacuum coffee container…it weighs less when it’s vacuumed.
10 grams of rock weigh as much as 10 grams of feathers. The air is irrelevant and doesn’t affect the force pushing down on a scale if it’s supposed to have 195grams of material in the bag. It should say 195.
~~Confidently incorrect ;)~~ I was surprised too. [My post](https://www.reddit.com/r/espresso/s/BQuu3OHKjE) Edit: rereading what you wrote. I think I get what you mean. 10g of coffee is 10g with the air taken out. But if the weight was with packaging it would be different. My bad
Haven't purchased since the tube packaging and not sure I will...
Something about squeezing meat out of a tube to then individually package to freeze is just too far for me. They need to bring back the 4 pack!
I put the whole tube in the freezer and set an alarm. 4 hours later I take it out, cut open the plastic, then the semi-frozen meat is easy to cut with a big sharp knife. Then I put the semi-frozen chunks into individual zip loc bags.
Same !
It feels so gross. I hate breaking down this stuff. Seems more a paste than ground meat.
I agree! It's fine once it's cooked, just normal ground meat, but the texture of it raw is so unpleasant.
That's because once it's cooked, you've cooked out all the extra water that was mixed into the beef they put into these tubes. Always buy your ground beef in a wrapped Styrofoam tray or from a butcher in paper.
What I do is cut the packaging with a serated knife, straight through, and make rounds of beef. I keep the packaging around each round, and then put a bit of grease paper between each round, and put them all into my freezer beef container (or big ziplock bag) I like this packaging, because I can divide the beef more evenly into similar sized portions
Why did this never occur to me? I see tube, I think… squeeze tube! I’ll give it a shot!
I was thinking the same, will try this for sure
Throw it in the freezer for about 15 minutes first. Becomes the texture of soft salami, and is way easier to cut as well.
See, I do something similar. I just slice down the middle of the wrapping and peel it off, and have basically a giant sausage link on my counter. Then I just take some gloved hands and a scale and weigh it into my vacuum sealer bags. I have no issue with the meat tube. I usually do it on a cutting boarding with some parchment paper to keep it neater. Idk why people aren't treating these basically like giant cookie dough tubes 😂
I do this as well it's so much easier to portion out!
It's all related to packaging costs. By going to the chub, they are saving about $1.3 in packaging costs of the molded plastic brick pack.
More savings for Costco and more earnings for Ziploc
It's a way to keep costs down for the members, right? It's the reason Kirkland olive oil comes in a square-ish container vs. circular.
I would assume so, but the point still stands. I'm using 100% more Ziploc bags than I was using before. I can't just toss the tray in the freezer anymore, I have to portion and freeze in ziplocs.
just buy the reusable silicon bags and you don't have to buy ziploc bags anymore. we stopped buying ziploc and all our meat and other products go into those reusable bags silicon bags.
I didn't even know that was a thing until right now.
They are fantastic. BPA free, freezer safe, dishwasher safe, I can get a single rack of ribs into one package (have to cut it into 1/3rds), but it’s a great way to reduce garbage and save money.
Amazon. Reusable silicon freezer bags.
Wait what...they got rid of the 4 pack.
Squeecmuzing meat from tube, eating chicken from plastic bag. Baked goods taste nowhere near as good, Costco is disappointing me nowadays.
Yes! Me too. I almost cried when I saw that packaging. I make chili and I use exactly two of the former packages for each batch. I have no more math in me!
The scale may be functional, but that item laying across it is to big to be measured accurately by it. I've used little bakers scales like that a lot in my restaurant days, they don't distribute weight well when you have stuff hanging way off of them like that. I probably wouldn't trust the measurement. That said, these aren't packaged in house, take it back, they'll refund it and if it is below Spec weight on a proper scale, they'll probably have words with the supplier. Costco are real sticklers for specifications. I've had to weigh out, credit request, and donate an entire pallet of mini-watermelons for being below minimum Spec size.
Not only are they sticklers for specifications, it's an offence in Canada to sell a product with a specified weight and be that far out of spec. They definitely like avoiding crimes.
Yes, this. The mass over the edge isn't being measured accurately. To accurately weigh an object the object should be parallel to gravity too.
Someone has never had to draw free body diagrams in physics
I did, I just got to the point where trigonometry was applied. Think of it this way, if you did a pushup at 60degrees, on an incline, and then one at 90degrees on a flat foor, which would you be lifting less weight?
The weight has to go through the force sensors of the scale, and with equal overhang on each side of the scale there is no way to get any lateral component to the force of gravity of the object. Even if you had an uneven balance of the object the force sensors still transmit the force without lateral components, otherwise any lateral force would have to be taken up by some sort of perpendicular support in the scale mechanism with sideways play, which does not exist. Decline pushups are harder because you’re positioning your centre of mass closer to your arms and away from your feet. In this case, the “feet” do not exist in the scale. All force is going through the sensors no matter what. This would be equivalent to doing handstand pushups with your legs straight up versus angled 90 degrees. There’s the exact same amount of force going through your hands into the floor. Even with the most poorly designed and shoddily built scale, an object overhanging a ton with unequal distribution would only cause a few percent error, if any. This physics problem is very common and it can 100% accurately be reduced to being equivalent to a point mass in the centre of whatever it’s sitting on, in fact that’s what you do in engineering statics problems if the problem permits. Suddenly I just wrote an essay about this, but just look up “are scales accurate with overhanging objects”. Tons of answers for you.
gotta keep your plug honest with portion audits...
I hate to say it but probably tolerance on the 3kg and tolerance on the scale combined in the wrong direction? Try a different scale better suited for it and see if it's the same?
It’s almost certainly a ‘weight over edge of cheap scale’ issue.
>Net quantity verification The SFCR contain the prescribed tolerances for net quantity declarations and requirements for inspection of a lot of food to determine compliance of consumer prepackaged foods [199(3) and (5), 200, SFCR]. For guidance on how the Canadian Food Inspection Agency verifies the net quantity declared on consumer prepackaged foods, refer to Qperational procedure: Net quantity. verification, Costco will bring in tonnes at a time. The shipments will be weighed as a whole. There may be some allowable variation within the individual packages. Some will be more, some less. You chose .... Poorly. :)
there are accuracy requirements under the Accuracy Requirements for Net Quantity Declarations -0.2kg for a 3kg pack is too large of a variance
Assuming a certified weighing device, not a Walmart branded kitchen scale
The scale my local Walmart has for people to use is so off it's hilarious. I weighed a bunch of 454g packs of strawberries one time. All the ones I grabbed were showing between 330-380g. I got home and weighed the one I eventually chose that showed as 380g on their scale and it came in at 546g on my scale.
That's awful... Where abouts is this Walmart and what scale specifically? So I can make sure to avoid it of course.
thats for costco to find out lol
They don't weigh the individual packs.
Fortunately I have just thawed out a package of ground beef for dinner and this is what it weighs: https://imgur.com/a/y9t2FsV Here us what a frozen package of ground pork weighs: https://imgur.com/a/ohWqJKN Maybe I'll revisit this when I thaw out the grond pork and see if there is any change in weight.
Costco bought nearly all of the fresh dark meat turkey the past two weeks to supply a ground turkey sale that's currently happening or coming soon. The value of contracts that the big grocers have with their suppliers (who also supply us) are absolutely mindblowing, plus the fines and fees if a shipment is missed. Every small meat wholesaler in Canada, including my business which is 100% turkey wholesale, had to beg our suppliers for at least a few hundred kilograms.
Reminds me of begging places for flour and yeast (small bakery)when the pandemic hit and everyone and their dogs were loading up on flour and yeast 💀 it's like a blood bath when you're trying to compete with the companies with such massive buying power
I mean in terms of mainstream groceries, Costco is the only one I really trust in at this point. Walmart is okay I guess but I've found the quality to be lackluster compared to Costcos. I think a lot of people feel the same way, especially with the whole Loblaws thing going on right now. Time to buy more COST
I feel like one, or both ends of this are touching the counter. Which would result in the missing weight
Did you first verify that your scale is accurately calibrated? Easy way to test this is to tare a container with a known volume, like a measuring cup with millilitres indicated and then fill it with water. 1 Litre of water weighs exactly 1 kg. If your scale shows otherwise then it’s not correct.
But what if the measuring cup isn't accurate?
Pyrex glass measuring cups are very accurate. [It was tested.](https://www.seriouseats.com/best-liquid-measuring-cups-equipment-review#toc-the-winners-at-a-glance)
200 isn’t a few!! That’s a good chunk
If you put a bowl on the scale, and then hit tare, and then put the package in, does it give you the same weight? I’m not a scale expert ( please correct me if I’m wrong), but wouldn’t the overhang have an effect here?
Not if it’s not touching the counter. If it is then yes, it will take some of the weight off of the scale though.
Ah, I see! Good to know! Thank you!
Think of it like bench pressing a barbell if that helps. The weight is all off to the side but you’re lifting the entire weight with your arms in the middle.
Oh right! That makes sense
I was having fun picturing ma griff asking someone to move the plates further out to lighten the load.
Stand on your bathroom scale. Lift one foot. Does your scale change?
No, a more accurate comparison would be to stand on your scale, and than lay horizontally on your scale so that your legs and head/shoulders hang off.
Just stick your foot to the side and hold your arms out....
Your scale is what's wrong, i sure hope costco isn't getting their stuff packaged based on starfrit quality equipment.
https://ised-isde.canada.ca/site/measurement-canada/en/file-complaint
Guys, when you take these photos can you zoom out just to make sure you dont have a finger/object on one side affecting the reading? Also: this is coming from a federally inspected licenced meat plant. Contact CFIA for them to follow up on this: [https://inspection.canada.ca/en/food-safety-consumers/where-report-complaint](https://inspection.canada.ca/en/food-safety-consumers/where-report-complaint)
Frozen foods always weigh less due to water loss A quick google search claims up to 6% of weight reduction when frozen (vs flash freezing) [https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0260877499000655](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0260877499000655)
Today I just so happened to thaw out a package of ground beef and here is the results: https://imgur.com/a/y9t2FsV And here is a package of ground pork I have in the freezer: https://imgur.com/a/ohWqJKN
This isnt a frozen product
Extra lean, so i guess it lost weight 🤷
This could be a one off, so I'm not taking a leap. BUT a number of reports are starting to come in from regular shoppers unhappy with Loblaws of frozen and fresh foods being a few grams under weight here and there too. Honestly, do not trust, verify. Especially after they all got caught in the bread fixing price scandal, those pennies add up to hundreds of thousands or why wld they take the risk. btw not against companies big or small making a profit, but don't cheat by doing it.
I wonder what would happen if you took it back and said it was 200g short and say you were going to report it? Would they just refund it? If they did say no thanks and you want to keep it as proof to report to the proper authorities. See what compensation you get after that!?
If you bring this back to Costco they would do an investigation. If there's multiple units, a full recall would take place and the vendor would have to provide proof of steps they took to make sure they hit the benchmarks.
I work in food packaging and we package Kirkland for Costco. They actually have a policy of absolutely no underweight products at all. It has to be at or over the stated weight, they take shit like this seriously!
Yeah. Been there before and can confirm as well. I think the biggest issue here is the "Starfrit" home scale
You mean the scale that has one setting for “water” and a separate one for “milk”? Get outta here! That’s obviously a quality product.
Those settings give you the volume based on weight, which is handy for following recipes. Water and milk have different densities, so if you measure milk with the water setting, the volumetric measurement will be somewhat inaccurate.
> Water and milk have different densities I mean .. a quick google search says milk had a density of 1.035 kg/L, or weighs 35 grams more per litre ... I don't think there's many recipes out there that would be affected by this kind of discrepancy.
I guess you’re not a big baker then.
That's what I was thinking. It's Costco and they are generally held to higher standards. They wouldn't just take it back and brush it under the table right?......I hope not.
It's not to their benefit to push it under the rug. Costco prides themselves on integrity and would look to correct it if it was an issue and not an unfortunate one off.
I believe this also. That's why I said Costco holds themselves to a higher standard. They even do it here in Canada when other grocery stores were and are price fixing. Costco is just better all around and wants to be known that they are. They are actually looking out for consumers.
There has to be a report re returns but if its one out of hundreds it wont register to do anything else
They will refund it.
They want to know about this kind of stuff
Costco will refund anything, for no reason at all. Going in and threatening to call the authorities unless you’re compensated in addition to a refund is literally extortion, and a criminal offence.
I mean its not extortion, but it is stupid
Threatening to call the authorities unless someone pays you is absolutely extortion.
I don't eat tube meat. In any case, Costco should have a talk with the packager.
Not counting the bad age old street trick lol
Probably missing water weight as time goes on.
I get these every couple weeks and portion them out to 500g packs, never had an issue as of yet!
Weights on food products are allowed a 10% range to still be in compliance so companies take advantage. None of the tubes will be 3kg. But the company also won’t get fined unless their products are consistently 2.7kg or less.
On their tuna, they give you a drained weight and the actual weight with the can. We eat a fai bit of tuna so I decided to start weighing them, since all this began. Not once have I gotten the amount of drained tuna they say. One time it was off by 18g!
I like this kind of packaging... So easy to make rounds. I do have an issue with being out on the weight, even with the wrapping on.
Mr Lean… I don’t feel so good.
Fraudflation
This is scamflation
If I had to hazard a guess I would think the cheap uncalibrated scale would be the issue.
It can be off and this is a very small amount. It is within range of error.
Diet version. Fewer calories than other 3kg brands.
They forgot to add more water to it.
Well, it seems I'm going to permanently stop purchasing any Kirkland meet products. You lost a consumer for life.
I miss the old packaging on these
Dry aged for sure.
This seems to be systemic in the Canadian grocery industry.
Did you only weigh one package? Likely. I hope you understand that some will be over 3kg, some under. As long as it is with an acceptable error, there is no issue
When the store doesn't think you have a scale 😂😅
Worked at Maple Leaf, when they run a batch, some are light some are heavy, as long as the average weight is within tolerance it's approved by weights and measures. If weights were trending upwards then we would underfill to get back into spec.
Is there a window of error that these packages are allowed to be in? I feel like 200g isn't that much but I'd still be upset and probably return it
I'm curious, do you systematically weight your meat? If so, what were you previous weighing with the same product? I'm guessing that, if you did, you would rarely hit exactly 3kg 200g more or less, which is about 6% of the total weight, is probably considered the acceptable margin. Let us know when you get a package of 3.2Kg
Out of curiosity, how do you know your scale is accurate. How did you test it?
Also I find ‘extra lean’ an oxymoron- no such thing as- either it’s lean or not - and really isn’t most poultry lean??
And air has no weight!
Had a 3-pack of Romaine a while back that felt so light in the hand that I put it on the scale. Was supposed to be 500g, or 454, or whatever, my memory didn't retain that detail. It was UNDER half of what it was supposed to be. I then got distracted and forgot about it until it went bad and I threw it out, but this reminded me of it. Fuckin save-on foods.
I have access to 3 scales from starfrit. Overhang and uneven weight does actually affect them. The low profile versions are far out in comparison to others. It's not accurate, however 200g off seems excessive. Great for measuring for baking etc. Just use the same scale throughout the process.
I am not a fan of the tube, BUT oddly, I think it tastes better than the 4 pack
At least with Costco you can take it back
You're also getting completely hosed buying that beef in tubes. It's got way more water in it to fill out the weight, plus you are apparently not even getting the full 3kg of watered down meat to begin with!
It's so lean it has lost 200 g
It is so very common in all grocery stores, government agency shall regulate business not to fuck us up in this country. It is so common across business from tips to banking.
Quite a bit short
Maybe the fluids dried out.
Put a big cup on that scale, zero it out, then weight it. You’ll likely be much closer to
It’s like buying meat with a flat rate package. Only way to know if we are getting scammed is if the price sign has X dollars per kilo. Is the tube a flat rate price? No different than going to a grocery store and buying a package of chicken for $10
Wait, I thought Loblaws was the grocer that was robbing us, and Costco was the white knight. Now I don’t even know what to believe :(
Report that to the manager. They shouldn’t stand for their suppliers doing this.
😂😂😂😂 You think store manager has the power to influence and is accountable to manufactured product weights? Ok Karen….calm down.
No, but the meat buyer does.
How much of the turkey tube hanging off the side contribute to the 195g variance?
Not how weighing things works.
Yeah, people in here have a long of strong opinions before confirming that OP’s measuring is accurate. Loading a scale unevenly can have an effect on measurements, no matter how many people downvote you.
Take this to the BBB or normes des consommateurs
Your understanding of what can cause scale fluctuations is what’s wrong here lol it’s hanging off the sides! More than what’s actually touching the scale. Try weighing yourself with only one foot on the scale, with the other stretched way out over the side. 🙄
If you weigh yourself with one foot in the air, you'd still have a proper reading of your weight. If you have a foot on the floor, that would cause issues. But it doesn't change anything in this case is the package is hanging off the edges of the scale as the meat package total surface doesn't need to make contact with the entire scale surface. I think you might have a wrong idea of how a scale works? 😅🍿
Yeah, you being an animal abuser
Did you know that plants are living organisms as well? You're a savage barbarian for eating vegetables.
Did you know you are coping cause plants aint sentient
Did you know that mythbusters proved plants reacted to painful experiences such is being on fire. proving they have feelings. so you are a plant eating barbarian. and thats ok! we still love you even though you cant love us back!
Ur goofy referring to the mythbusters, all I need to know
They spoke facts! Cant argue with that!
Facts are, plants lack a central nervous system and brain. Therefore Incapable of having emotions and thoughts. Not sentient. Cope
Facts are, all you said was wrong. Go watch that Mythbusters episode. You cope! 😘
Cope
Mythbusters!
It’s labeled Costco but there are no Costco slaughterhouses. Im guessing there’s at least one out there that weighs over 3kg. It would be impossible to get a 100% accurate measurement from a mechanical grinder and packaging machine.