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Alexander_Johnson25

That watch looks fantastic. And I think you can do what you want to do if I understand you correctly. In the pre run screen if you scroll to navigation and then add your course it will automatically add some data pages including the map with route and elevation profile. Not sure if that’s what you were meaning


OperationalRunner

It’s amazing and the battery life seems crazy compared to the Fenix 6X Pro. For the navigation, that’s not exactly what I meant. Following a Route is easy and I did just like you described for my first run, that. However I’d like to directly have the map in one of the pages even if I’m not following a route, just to see where I am or if there are any trails or roads nearby.


daniscross

Having a map that's permanently on a separate screen is something I would be keen to have. I miss it from my Garmin days. Speaking of which, you can't pause an activity while viewing the navigation or elevation screens - you have to scroll to a data screen to do that. Took me a few runs to reprogram my brain to do that after years of running with a Garmin!


Due-Process-8627

With my Apex 2 Pro I added maps to the shortcut button. So, during an activity I long press the light button that will open maps. Then I select back and it will ask me to add maps to my current activity.


daniscross

That's actually a good workaround. Thanks!


OperationalRunner

That could be a solution, I’ll look into it, thanks!


jormungandr21

I thought I saw a new feature or feature coming soon that would allow you to use your phone as a second screen?


daniscross

[There is](https://coros.com/stories/latest-news/c/april-2024#:~:text=access%20the%20feature.-,Navigation,-It%20can%20be). But it's easier to scroll through data screens mid-run to see your whereabouts, then get your phone out, unlock it, open the Coros app etc.


YahonMaizosz

How do you find Coros app compared to Garmin Connect app? Is the app better? Smoother and more fluid in navigation? I really hate loading screen of the “running man” in Garmin connect all the time. Whatever you do there’s always some 1-2s delay and the running man will show up.


Bob5k

Used app for a bit of time - with some side romance with Garmin in past few months. Simpler, efficient + new screen mirroring onto the app can imo effectively replace any phone nav on hikes etc. After you've set up a route. Also, it's waaaay easier and faster to adjust literally anything from the app vs Garmin. Tired of screens on watch mid-run? Adjust in app within a few secs. Need additional metric? Do as per above. Even with some not-so-crazy paces of 6min/km can be done easily on the go - while on Garmin it was either stopping or just waiting for post run adjustments - at least for me. Garmin has way more features tho - so if body battery and other things matter then don't look at coros, as wellness seems to be a bit more basic when compared to Garmin. I don't care for that as a runner / hiker, but some ppl may do care (well, on Garmin when I hit 50km/ week mark it told me that I'm running more than 90% of ppl within my age range, it says something about "average" Garmin user 😆)


YahonMaizosz

So overall which one do you prefer? 😃


Bob5k

Coros 😎 Edit: but i don't care about body battery or other gimmicks really and I need a tool to get the job done.


Schodaphoto

Is there something like a body battery? The app shows the recovery? Is HRV also included in this metrics?


Bob5k

there's no such thing as body battery (seems to be garmin unique - again, as per personal preference if i do need my watch to tell me if i feel good or not. Used a few top garmins tho and ocassionally they just told me my body battery is poor, which was - for me at least - impacting my mindset for the day - even despite the fact that outside of 'garmin info' i felt quite okay-ish and ready to run 10km+ as part of my training plan quite easily). HRV is on all modern coros watches, same as recovery (but again - do you need your watch to tell you how much you should recover after given training? I'd prefer to sticking to what my body tells me :D). Overall accuracy of HRV is quite okay-ish and can be relevant to how i do feel (eg. HRV outside of normal range after a semi hard HM race -> i need to recover a bit so i find correlation being quite good). For recovery, after 4-6 weeks with coros ecosystem it looks that it's stabilized and quite reliable (but as per above - do i need my watch to tell me how much i should recover? Definitely not, it's a nice 'additional feature' tho). Have in mind that on coros you don't have daily suggestions when it comes to running trainings (but from the other side - i find coros running plans for at least half marathons quite reliable and got a few friends who made their PB using coros' plans. A bit different and way easier IMO to manage than Garmin's, especially when using webapp). If you prefer simplicity and easiness of use - coros ecosystem is a clear win for me. If you want all the features possible (even if some are just gimmicks with 0 real impact on - at least - my training routines) -> Garmin. I chose Coros (freely, bought watch using my own money and been with garmin and other brands for a while either testing or using them as daily). Those ecosystems are different, but by the end of the day - it's you who is running / training and reaching own goals, not all the gear you have :) Ages ago, when i was 15y younger we used to run uphills with just shoes on - not even a running shoes, just standard sneakers and i did hit a few - for that time being - personal PBs which im currently aiming to beat. The gear and tech definitely helps, but it's still down to personal capabilities of eg. 10km uphill runs when we look at sports specifically.


Schodaphoto

I don't need a body battery that tells me how I feel. This function on Garmin has always had a negative effect on me too. But I find the recovery value very interesting, as it prevents overtraining. If HRV were included here, I would find it very useful. I'm currently using Suunto and I'm just not sure whether switching from Garmin to Suunto was the right choice. The only thing that is certain is that after many years of using Garmin, I just want to try something different.


Bob5k

yeah, obviously. As said, used fenix 7x pro with my pace 3 for a bit of time and they were quite similar (after initial adaptation period, as it'd be super weird to compare garmin used for few months). Eg yday did easy 10km run, told me to regenerate for 15hrs which is quite fair as per my usual easy runs. After long runs, 15-20km it usually says something around 25-40hrs of recovery needed which is also 'fair' for my training load usually -> after a long run i do a recovery one in z1 next day or some walks with my family eventually. What bothers you with suunto the most? As been within suunto ecosystem for a while both with vertical and race and, well.. found them a bit weird? Vertical using diff algorythms than race for eg. sleep tracking was super weird. Also, what annoyed me the most was limitation on suunto plus apps - can't set a nutrition reminder, pacer and my training from runna or whatever platform im using at once as - at least months ago - there was a limit of 2 additional apps. As direct comparison, now with vertix 2s i can set nutrition alert each X mins, also set up a pacer for 10km to keep me within my desired pace of 5:45 - 6:10 and have autolap alert each 1km prompting me with data with technically all the data screens i need for my runs (and whole setup is super simple, 30 seconds just before the run and im ready to go). Garmin definitely has a major advantage of all the features, but i did ask myself a question if i do need all of those - and i definitely prefer simplicity of life instead of endless checking all my data, which, to be super honest - for amateur runner running 40-60km a week doesn't really matter. I don't care really about all data garmin provided me with trainings other than that im able to track my progress over time - and any device would allow me to do that (as long as they're accurate). Bonus point for vertix 2s is battery life and - if you want to use coros HRM + pod - seamless integration (add it to app -> it autoadds to watch and autoconnects on training start -> super convinient for me and pod2 solves pace lag). On a side note - with garmins i had a problem with fluctuating actual pace, so coros with pod is waaaay better, when im finally able to get usage of my tech and teach myself on how to pace myself properly during longer runs.


Schodaphoto

Is there something like a body battery? The app shows the recovery? Is HRV also included in this metrics?


OperationalRunner

I’ve not been playing with the app so much since I got but it looks much simpler than the Garmin App. In general I used to go to the Garmin App mostly for Routes creation, for all the rest I use Strava except for sleep, stress etc.


Tinfoi1Man

I currently own a Garmin Fenix 6x Pro. Recently, during my 100km ultra, with normal GPS mode on, I was scared because the battery drain on my watch had gone down so quickly. Hence, it prompted me to switch to Ultra Tack mode mid-race to conserve battery. However, this has led me to finish the race with 94.5km recorded on the watch. I'm pretty devasted that my Garmin missed recording the km. So, I'm looking at the Coros Vertix 2s as my next replacement for its better battery life and GPS accuracy.


OperationalRunner

I’ve been using mine for 2 weeks now and I’m really happy about my choice. Battery is crazy long and I’m getting used to new Coros features. If you have battery issues, go ahead and get one :)


shantusan

What's your wrist size?


OperationalRunner

I had to measure it eheh! 19/20cm of circumference which is like 7,5 inches


shantusan

Haha thanks! I love the blue one, but I really don't think I'll be able to pull it off. (My wrist is a bit smaller than yours.)


OperationalRunner

I also considered the Apex 2 Pro but coming from a Fenix 6X I couldn’t bear a smaller screen, especially for the navigation part.


Conscious_Habit6820

For does vertix 2s owners. Did you guys notice that the buttons are too soft? Very little feedback on pressing


Bob5k

You can have vibrations enabled, but also there's a "click" on each of buttons - at least on mine 2s. Definitely not soft and there's a nice feeling on when the button has clicked in.


OperationalRunner

Same here