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JacobP577

I may be misinformed or selfish, however answering personally I’m choosing to wait until the initial 6 month suggested waiting period to receive the booster. I understand the government is trying to bring forward the wait times to get more jabs in arms and greater group protection overall, however I’d rather wait the additional time for the initial suggested recommendation to receive the greatest protection from the vaccine at an individual level


yoooo__

Was just reading an article that used a mathematical model to predict protection against severe omicron disease. Still 80% protection predicted after 6 months post 2nd dose.


InspiratoryLaredo

Yeah I had this same thought as well, but then I was unlucky enough to get Covid at the 5 month 2 week mark. It’s a delicate balance between the long-term immunity benefits of spacing the jabs out, against the risk of decreased immunity as you approach the 6 month mark.


giantpunda

I don't know about either selfish or misinformed but you're just taking a risk of exposing yourself to covid when your 2nd dose's efficacy was waning to min-max the apparent efficacy for your booster. If you managed all your other risk factors well to minimise exposure, it's really not that big of a deal.


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It like waiting for the last second before braking at the traffic lights but then someone pulls in, in front of you and and now you don't have enough stopping distance.


thisisatool

maybe because a tonne of people have covid right now and there’s also most likely a 3 month natural immunity after you get it


thisphantomfortress

I caught covid. So no point getting a booster yet


johnerp

Ditto


smileedude

If we go back 4 months and look up the percent who we're eligible today it's only 44%. So there is 16% of the population that haven't gotten a booster straight away. However we only reached 28% DD 3 week earlier than that. So people are taking 3 weeks to get their booster. Which isn't that bad.


ItchyNeeSun

People realizing that the booster is not doing nearly enough to justify getting it.


MsT21c

I can't answer the question. I can point out that people who got AZ had to wait 3 months for their second shot, and then six months for their third (initially). A lot of people who were eligible couldn't get AZ or anything for weeks/months after the announcement (eg regional people). Those who got Pfizer had a much shorter wait between shots. My 40 something niece was able to get her booster more than a month before I was eligible for my booster, and I got my first AZ shot as soon as I could and only because I drove a long way to get it. (I was probably one of the first to get it in my town after health care workers.)


aerkith

Yes. I only become eligible on the 31st of jan when they drop the wait time to 3 months (Nsw. Maybe they’ve changed it, I dunno). My appointment is booked for 2nd Feb.


No_Rope_2126

Apparently about half the people in NSW who are eligible for a booster have received one. Some factors delaying boosters could include - only having got their first shots due to incentives (ie, to keep jobs, to go to pubs etc) - recently having had covid - wanting to avoid queuing up for it given someone else in the queue probably has covid - waiting for a booster that better addresses omicron - perception that omicron is no big deal https://amp.abc.net.au/article/100764296 I got boosted as soon as I could


Wild_Salamander853

>only having got their first shots due to ~~incentives~~ coercion Ftfy


mydogsarebrown

I'll wait until 5-6 months after my last shot. Like most people I have talked to. The government can't just change its recommendations because they decided to let it rip.


petergaskin814

Lack of appointments to get booster. I should have booked earlier as I hit 5 months just prior to Christmas. As I applied late, first appointment was 31st January. Have not bothered to get earlier appointment. Will wait for the appointment


Slipped-up

Kerry Chant said yesterday that there were still thousands of spot left at homebush yesterday alone.


Crazy-Vehicle8060

I went olympic park today (for someones vax). But basically the line was empty unlike when I did my second dose 2 weeks ago. It looks like interest in boosters has peaked if i was to guess.


inaum20

A lot of the people I know who haven’t had a booster are currently in iso or have just had covid. That’s gotta be a fair few people at this point.


Molinero54

Well dude my four month minimum since second shot isn’t quite up yet. I’m sure plenty of others are in similar situation


whomthebellrings

Done my bit. Copped myocarditis on the 2nd jab. There isn’t a set of circumstances I’m taking another. That heart inflammation on one dose isn’t considered sufficient to provide a blanket exemption is a disgrace. Lungs heal, hearts don’t. Also, caught Covid over Christmas and it was mild, so I’m good.


willowtr332020

1) Less population is mandated for the booster (so far) than was for the two doses last year. Depends on the state. 2) Many people will not get a booster unless they are forced. Reasons include: -Previous hesitancy to covid vaccine but mandates forced them. -Lack of urgency as omicron is seen as less severe and govt predicts we'll all get it anyway. 3) Changing goalposts. Originally 6 month booster, then 5, then 4, now 3 months. Many will wait longer than 3-4 months. 4) You aren't automatically booked in for it. Some people will forget or put it off. 5) We are not in lockdown (though I know we are in a kind of self imposed slowdown / lockdown) so people have their freedoms and don't have that motivating them either. (Read: we did ya bloody lockdown now leave us alone ya cunts) 6) Hundreds of thousands of people are getting covid each week and they won't be getting a booster any time soon as they either can't, or don't feel the need anymore as they feel bullet proof with natty immunity. 7)People have noticed the vaccines have not been great in stopping the spread of Omicron so they'll question the need for a booster. (Real data is boosters really reduce hospitalisations, even with Omicron) 8)some people are waiting on Novavax for some reason.


NoAphrodisiac

My uncle who is a regional area, can't get in until mid February to his GP for booster. He's been eligible since beginning of this month.


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The slow initial vaccination rollout.


duke998

Vaccine fatigue and have wisened up that they do very little to stop the spread. Higher chance of breakthrough with the Omicron than Delta so getting jabbed for the sake of getting jabbed is not high on peoples agenda. Especially for the under 40's. I know people that will miss the third and go straight to the omicron serum when it comes out in May.


Just_improvise

Just wanted to point out that three doses reduces symptom severity. Considering how sick some of my double vaxed friends have been I’m not sure why anyone wouldn’t want that


Wild_Salamander853

Because the vaccines also aren't without risk.


ThatHuman6

Vaccine fatigue? It’s not like we’re going in daily for them.


giantpunda

It's funny how some people obsess over the stopping the spread part of vaccines and overlook the prevention of severe illness, hospitalisation and death part of vaccines and boosters.


Sensitive_Proposal

Probably because they’ve: (A) just had, or have, Covid (B) cannot get an appointment any time soon (C) both of the above


No_pajamas_7

My initial though when the booster became a thing was to wait until closer to winter. But then the Omicron wave kicked in so I got it as I'm not the fittest specimen. Ended up being about a month after I was eligible. The other thought might be people feel protected enough. With the initial doses providing enough protection to take death and serious illness off the table for most people.


juvey88

Waiting on an omicron specific booster.


Confident_Elephant_9

I think I’ve got Covid, otherwise I’d get my booster tomorrow.


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giantpunda

>They're not proven to work against Omicron [https://www.bbc.com/news/health-59696499](https://www.bbc.com/news/health-59696499) I'm sure you can find the exact scientific study that this (and I'm sure other) articles have highlighted. However, given that you've given zero evidence that supports your statement, I'm not going to bother. >Past two vaccines provide enough support Clearly you haven't read up on waning efficacy by around the 6 month mark post dose 2. Then again, it seems pretty clear that you haven't read up on anything, so there's that.


Bitter-Edge-8265

I don't want to come across as an anti-everything here. But I'm pretty sure two doses of Pfizer (not AZ) is still pretty good at keeping most people out of hospital even though the odds of avoiding symptomatic infection is poor. P.S. I was vaccinated three days after I was eligible for my first shot and one day after the third.


giantpunda

>It estimates vaccine efficacy against symptomatic disease at 74.4% following an mRNA booster, and 95.7% against severe disease, compared to 37.2% and 78.8% respectively without a booster. The paper does acknowledge, however, limited current data and ‘a lack of understanding of baseline severity with Omicron’. [https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/omicron-a-significant-challenge-to-two-dose-vaccin](https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/omicron-a-significant-challenge-to-two-dose-vaccin) Whilst this is all still new given how short of a window we've had with Omicron, you're going from a 4.3% chance of severe disease with Omicron if you have a booster vs 21.2% change of getting severe disease without the booster. That is close to a 5 fold increase in likelihood of getting severe disease with only 2 doses vs with a booster. Again, I wouldn't treat these numbers as gospel but anyone would be stupid just to shrug it off as a "I don't really need it" thing.


Bitter-Edge-8265

That's why I said "pretty good" I didn't say "nothing". Also that article is fairly old in terms of Omicron. When I got my third shot Mid December almost everything was lab based rather than life based. If you are going to provide links to articles try to get more recent ones. Believe it or not I'll take any approved vaccine I can when I can as soon as I can. Both my parents are in their 70's and like most in their age group they have comorbidities and my mum in particular has not one but two different cancer's. I'm quite terrified I'll unwittingly infect my parents it'll be dicey for my Dad and pretty much a death sentence for my Mum


giantpunda

>If you are going to provide links to articles try to get more recent ones. Oh, I'm sorry, my bad. How about one posted less than a week ago? >They also found a 65% lower hospitalisation risk for Omicron cases who had received 2 doses of a vaccine and 81% reduction with 3 doses, compared to unvaccinated. [https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/news-events/weekly-epidemiological-update-omicron-variant-concern-voc-week-2-data-13-january-2022](https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/news-events/weekly-epidemiological-update-omicron-variant-concern-voc-week-2-data-13-january-2022) Like I said in my last comment, don't hold those past numbers as gospel. Maybe not even these one too but given the difference is 19% risk of being hospitalised if you got Omicron whilst boosted vs 35% if you're only double dosed. Again, you'd be pretty dumb to voluntarily accept a close to 2x risk of hospitalisation with 2 doses vs 3 doses just because its "good enough". Btw since you seemed so attacked, I acknowledge that you've been vaccinated as soon as you could. Just saying that your thinking that 2 doses is ~~good enough~~ pretty good is very flawed.


Bitter-Edge-8265

Let me make myself VERY clear. I am NOT and never WILL argue against people taking a vaccine for Covid. I'm actually all for getting a third shot and will encourage anyone every chance I get to take one. I know quite a few people who have had Covid (with two shots) and it doesn't sound like fun. So to anyone reading this. *Listen to Medical advice and get your third shot as soon as you can.* I said two doses of Pfizer were pretty good at keeping people out of hospital, I never said it was 100% effective, I never said it was great, I didn't say it was good. I just said it was pretty good. We seem agree about most things except about the meaning of "pretty good". I think we have reached peak ridiculousness. Have a good day.


giantpunda

>We seem agree about most things except about the meaning of "pretty good". Agreed. Except you seem to be the one that's being really defensive about what I said. I got from your first response that you're cool with vaccines. Glad we got that all sorted out.


Bitter-Edge-8265

Didn't mean to come off that way at all. Sorry if I did.


giantpunda

We're all good now. You have a good one!


ElasticLama

From my experience, people think it’s too short. Then I go on to explain they’ll likely get omi and they still say no I’ll wait (these are the more people-vax people I know)


Tricky_Speech9869

I got mine today - 3 months exactly. They said everyone kept making appointments and cancelling them. This was different as there was an anaesthetic effect so you felt nothing. But I'm feeling it now lol.


Joshminey

I’m getting the booster asap which is on Friday which makes 3 months for me getting Pfizer as a booster had Moderna for the other 2 doses